Wouldn't fighting Sam be better cause Yanking has 40% ice res

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

Yea that's true, but i wanna show people how strong jingliu is, even when she fighting against enemy with high ice resistance she still can clear it with 3 cycle or even 2 cycle with the better run

@avocado9305

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch. or you are just too lazy to fight the fist node everytimes you switch characters

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

@@avocado9305 yeah that's one of the reason too, because i recorded this video using my laptop and my laptop doesn't have SSD so it takes so long to load the game just for the 1st node

@TraiLBlazeR940

2 ай бұрын

I can't beat Sam using jingliu cause u really need to use skill point for Sam which is sad. that's her disadvantage.

@aracuno8626

2 ай бұрын

​@@TraiLBlazeR940acheron uses more skill points than jingliu, and with any of the limited 5* sustains, the burn tick for using skills during Sam's mode is a joke assuming ur sustain is well built enough

"The Strongest DPS in history vs the strongest DPS of today"

@nikaogm

Ай бұрын

anyway actually acheron > dhil > jingliu dhil multipliers are insane

@Infernaladmiral

Ай бұрын

Wdym dhil is still above Acheron and Jingliu, it's been this way since sparkle release ​@@nikaogm

@dineshchandrakumaran5540

Ай бұрын

@@InfernaladmiralI would say they both even

@ifp0353

Ай бұрын

We all know yanking is the greatest dps

@arinbread

Ай бұрын

wait who is the strongest dps in history? and who is the strongest dps of today?

I forgot that acheron dealing 150k dmg per skill with shreding and sparkle crit dmg. Which is broken than jingliu 😅😅😅

@tonyblairs1888

2 ай бұрын

If it has sign yes with 2 nihil and sparkle yes😂😂

@dirtblock1993

2 ай бұрын

​@@tonyblairs1888"if it has 2 nihil and sparkle" mf what are you expecting?? She needs to have 2 nihils it's not like she can perform at peak without them outside of e2, also why even bring sparkle up lol? She's a support anyone can use, it seems to me you are just another JL fan that hates on acheron because she might powercreep her.

i feel jingliu is more versatile with team comps more than acheron when you have to have nihiliy units. acheron does more damage sure but at the cost of HAVING to use nihility and debuffs. theres way less requirements with jingliu not to mention your damage is gonna be PRETTY om par with acheron

@Azxahmed

Ай бұрын

Jingliu is just like any other dps she needs harmony characters that’s not a good thing acheron let you have the harmony characters on the other team

@sleepykoharu

Ай бұрын

The fact that peoe can run Jingliu as a support dps because of how much she gains in her enhanced state is crazy for a dps. You can literally run broken keel on her and still do decent dmg

@rickfrancisong3010

6 күн бұрын

having to use nihility isnt really a problem because there are f2p options like pela who lower's the enemy's defense so ur entire team can deal huge amount of dmg

@solarenity

6 күн бұрын

@@Azxahmed well thing is with acheron you more or less need her lightcone/eidolons to run harmony with her

it is not about jingliu or acheron. it is about money. money wins every single time

@HapsCo

Ай бұрын

Bro spittin fax

MORE DPS SHOWDOWN PLEASE!

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

yea i will make another dps showdown when there are 2 dps that equally strong and makes people hard to choose between..

@HandleName_CB

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch. How is this "equally"?

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

​@@HandleName_CBi mean like these 2 character on the same S+ rank on the tier list something like that

@Aytreus

2 ай бұрын

​@@Kinday_Ch. But JINGLIU is against a ICE RESISTANT boss, it's unfair

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

@@Aytreus yea, that's why i put some text to explain it before fighting yanqing so people know that jingliu was about to fight yanqing with 40% ice res, it's the same with Sam, he has 20% ice res so either of them just unfair for jingliu on this moc.. maybe on the next moc i can test jingliu and acheron against aventurine who has ice and lightning weakness so it will be a fair comparison

I like Jingliu most, and feel she can do better with less skill point than anyone. With Bronya, she become 2 Jingliu, and Bronya use the same relic with Jingliu too, so everything easiest to farm😂

@rankosaotome3173

2 ай бұрын

Err... Not rlly, You need Her lightcone to make more damage and literally You have to do some specific thing to make a good rotation with brony because you can easily waste the buff with the double turn fact of her powerfull attack activation, And literally Sparkle can generate more skill points and the same time, give atk and crit dmge buffs

@yami1464

2 ай бұрын

​@@rankosaotome3173doesn't acheron needs her light cone more than jingliu?

@tabletennisstars1227

2 ай бұрын

@@rankosaotome3173 naah you dont need her lightcone at all, aeon s5 is pretty good. also, if anyone needs signature lightcone that is acheron

@Goblinhandler

2 ай бұрын

@@rankosaotome3173 Acheron is entirely dependant on her lightcone lmao, her damage gets halved if you don´t

Om minta saran, mending gatcha LC acheron apa nanti ambil jing liu ya, di tim acheron udh ada pela, silver wolf dan gepard sama pake lc nya GNSW s4, di sisi lain butuh dps es buat moc sama yg lain...

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

mending ambil jingliu aja kalo gitu, gnsw sama signature lc acheron dmg nya ga beda jauh kok, liat aja di video gua beberapa hari lalu ada perbandingannya

@ajattrabucco7861

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch. siap om, makasih sarannya..

Is it weird that I find Jingliu´s burst to be way cooler than Acheron´s? Acheron's burst doesn't have very good voice lines, the sound effects are weird, and the visuals are just black and white with red, also the closeup on Jingliu is cooler than Acheron's expressionless face

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

No it's not weird at all, it's all about personal preference

@TH-zh8cf

Ай бұрын

Acheron is more graphical and focused on destruction while jingliu’s is more focused on the character and action… I mean both of them are awesome in my opinion, both are equal.

@Justme-jp8ih

Ай бұрын

Its alright if you lost your 50/50 on Acheron buddy

@Goblinhandler

Ай бұрын

@@Justme-jp8ih I’ve got her at E2 lmao

@gogachaplay

Ай бұрын

its okay dude we're sorry for you. You can try to get her in rerun

whats up with JL bronya rotation switching sides? they start off JL->Bronya but next turn its Bronya-> JL :\

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

One of Bronya's passive traces allow her to action forward a certain % if she do basic atk

@BelialRus

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch. example at 1:03 , my guess is that hackerspace is messing up your rotation

Quastion,i have both so whom i should give pela,i haven't many option of nihility but have harmony for jingliu

@Kinday_Ch.

Ай бұрын

I think it's better to give Pela to acheron

My team 1. Jingliu, Ruanmei, Tingyun, Huohuo 2. Acheron, BlackSwan, Pela, Bailu Dunno where to put poor Sparkle?

@LauderIX

2 ай бұрын

Either replace tingyun or black swan with sparkle. Personally, the latter so you can run Acheron+Sparkle+Pela.

Both at e0 feel somewhat competitive. At e6 they went overboard with acheron. What were mihoyo thinking.

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

Bro e6 acheron is out of question, she absolutely obliterate everything on the game, even your wallet

@bluemoon9683

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch. easy 4.5million dmg on my end without sparkle. Its crazy

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

​@@bluemoon9683God damn, that's a lot of dmg

@bluemoon9683

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch. tbh its average. Another guy is getting 6 million average on moc12. My relics kinda suck

@solo_1427

2 ай бұрын

tbf the all res pen on all her abilities is kinda crazy, meaning she can brute force pretty much anything in the future. Even for an e6 character thats pretty nutty hope they tone that down or remove it

I wish this comparison was than against an enemy that is not weak to lightning while having 40% ICE res , comparisons are useless when the conditions are not fair

bang mending ambil jingliu atau acheron yaa? posisinya gw blm ada ice dps selain herta, tapi kalo ambil acheron tuh baru ada pela yg kebuilt

@qiplon9746

2 ай бұрын

Acheron buat skip kroco gacor tapi yahh ambil jingliu gapapa soalnya klo karakter rerun biasanya lama lagi rerunnya, kalo karakter baru kek acheron lebih cepet rerunnya

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

Mending jingliu aja dulu kalo gitu, soalnya ngebuild dia tu cepet ga selama kaya ngebuild acheron, biar ga keteteran build banyak karakter

@kei2547

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch. oke deh bang, relicnya udah ada jd tinggal nyari mats sama tracenya aja. Soalnya dari kemaren liat showcase Acheron pada gacor2 bgt jd agak oleng mau pull Acheron aja

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

@@kei2547 kalo udah ada relicnya mah berarti tinggal ngikutin selera aja lebih suka yg mana, dua2nya dps bagus kok tinggal ngikutin selera sama team comp nya aja

your huohuo has a lot of health. the 6k is unreachable for me

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

i use bailu signature lightcone, that's why my huohuo HP can reach 6k

Next with 4 star weapon

Bang info dong bingung gw. Mending ambil Aven+Jl, atau Acheron+Jl yak? Char sustain baru ada fu xuan sama lynx. Sedangkan dps lightning ada kafka di tim dot. Bingung gwa acheron op banget cikk😭

@ezzhuyt9197

2 ай бұрын

acheron gk newbie friendly tapi kalau build bener bakal sakit,tapi arus acheron + 2 nihility,jl mah tinggal build cdm

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

Kalau ngeliat hsr kedepannya bakal banyak musuh yg bakal punya mekanik one shot mendingan ambil aventurine, kalau masalah jingliu atau acheron itu tergantung, kalau punya LC gnsw + mau sabar farming relic buat acheron gua lebih prefer ambil acheron, buat jingliu tu farming relic nya lebih cepet dari acheron soalnya dia dari trace ada bonus crit dmg + crit rate 50% kalo masuk mode spectralnya jadi dikasih relic stat biasa juga bakal sakit2 juga dmg nya

@Asegard

2 ай бұрын

Aven sepertinya bro. Shield bagus bgt apalagi di harder content kyk gold and gears yg hp 7000 jg bs di 1 shot sm musuhnya.

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

@@Asegard nah ini bener ni, apalagi aventurine tu kalo kata gua di gold and gears bakal bisa solo pake preservation path kalo mainin dadu yg company time dapet 100+ blessing

@AlFathMDK111

2 ай бұрын

​@@Kinday_Ch.Tapi bang kalau udah punya Fuxuan, Luocha, Gepard dan mau pull aventurine masih worth it kah? Pengen pull aventurine tapi kata orang udah kebanyakan sustain.

Not only yangqing has ice resistance but also lightning weakness which makes the second fight all the more unfair

@rektarduno9153

2 ай бұрын

That’s why it’s just a showcase. We can’t compare them

@Zerocyxone9

2 ай бұрын

You are so hurt brother, acheron aint losing against JL she is stuck to ice weakness. Acheron ignores weakness typing.

@mahimraihan2235

2 ай бұрын

Sry.Weakness was never a problem for jingliu.I casually 2 cycles Yanquing.Shes that strong.

@WI-FI_GOD

2 ай бұрын

You telling me she did that well at a disadvantage?

@Zerocyxone9

Ай бұрын

@@mahimraihan2235 still a problem. At the same amount of investment JL cant win.

I still choose Acheron, i don't have much time for unimportant battles 😖 and actually i tried pull jingliu but lose her.. So nvm I'll get her later.... If i have ruanmei

So what you're saying is, Pela is a great character.

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

she is really one of the best 4 star character now 😁, really need a 5 star character that can replace pela in the future

@SSP50505

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch. Seems like there's something like that coming soon™

Bang tips upgrade substat relic yang kita mau cara nya gimana ya?

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

udah nyoba sih yg kemaren sempat rame relic manipulation, ada beberapa yang berhasil dan kadang ada yang ga berhasil.. jatohnya kaya sama aja tetep rng dan gacha lagi

@fauzanhaidar8792

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch. oh ya bang buat acheron sepatu sama planar nya lebih bagus attack persen ya dibanding speed sama lighting?

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

@@fauzanhaidar8792 iya, buat sepatunya mending atk% aja tapi support nihilitynya dibikin tinggi spd nya 160+, kalo buat planar lightning dmg sama atk% ga beda jauh jadi pake aja yg substatnya lebih bagus

My E0S1 Acheron does 1,3m Phase 1 / 1,88m+ Phase 2 (with Swords summoned) on MoC 12 Instead of Gepard.. i use Sparkle (If Yanqing doesn't get a turn.. / only him on the field) - She does around 800k+ Ult (Skill 150k+... ?) Singletarget DMG / and kills him :'3 - She is insane!

@azi3430

2 ай бұрын

What’s your Acheron’s crit ratio

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

damn i need sparkle right now 😂, the highest dmg my acheron can does only 1.1m with ruan mei

@SekaiCake

2 ай бұрын

@@azi3430 100%/240 with all Buffs

@azi3430

2 ай бұрын

@@SekaiCake W RELIC LUCK

@didacd9679

2 ай бұрын

Damn those are crazy good​@@SekaiCake

Its still depend on debuff of MoC i think

What language are the voices?

@Strom358

2 ай бұрын

Japanese

@whenyounutinhermouthandshe

2 ай бұрын

Bro never heard Japanese in his life.

@mudari661

2 ай бұрын

@@whenyounutinhermouthandshe As if it was a norm to know what japanese sounds like lmfao

Maybe they do similar damage but Archeron distributes it much better hitting everyone, Jinglu only 3 when normally there are up to 5 enemies in the MOC for each floor, sometimes 4 sometimes 5 Additionally, Archeron lowers the weakness bar of whatever element it is.

@DefinitelyChael

2 ай бұрын

Acheron has higher damage at 3 targets, and has a higher, way higher ceiling compared to other DPS in game. An Acheron can deal 500 k in 1 turn or 1 mil in 1 ult depends on the investments on crit value, and she can ult 2 times per turn depends on how fast her teammates are, and on the first turn it is guaranteed.

@DefinitelyChael

2 ай бұрын

I meant cycle.

@Raydiant_

2 ай бұрын

​@@DefinitelyChael my e0Acheron dealing 618k dmg with low crit build proves she's stronger than Jingliu, she's not even build properly not even her traces are maxed yet

@heilamwether8911

2 ай бұрын

@@Raydiant_I mean, what is your team comp? Who your running, what their wearing, lvl caps, etc. that can really scale your dmg with Acheron, because she very much scales with team comps, and because of that, priority is less on relics, compared to other chrs like DHIL and Jingliu.

@heilamwether8911

2 ай бұрын

@@DefinitelyChaelI don’t think that’s entirely true: Acheron while having more burst dmg, has less dmg in 3-target then DHIL or Jingliu; My Jingliu and Acheron is built very similar to OP’s, and when testing on their respected weakened bosses, Jingliu prevails in the single-3hit multi department. (250-300k; 300-400k) This is due to a lot of dmg comeing from the burst of acherons ult, which only hits once, but all enemies on the field, so when their is 2 less enemies, the dmg differece is huge. (This Acheron can dish 600-700k with ult on 5 enemies.) With higher investment, this Acheron could be doing a mil dmg, but same with my Jingliu, she can also be doing more dmg. (40:256 crit Jingliu’s can do up to 700k per ult, and keep up with consistent 200-300 dmg, same with DHIL..) It’s all up to the individual and how much they want to invest.. (my QQ can do over 500k with just ult, and she isn’t even fully maxed ☠️ ) If you like a build, or character, you go for it, if not, doesn’t matter to me.

Bro acheron dealing 150k more dmg thenn mine on ult 🫡

Wait till Acheron's buffer release 💀

@OstStat

Ай бұрын

Btw i have both of them and i can say Acheron is just the strongest DPS...

Two mommy fighting over me

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

chill bro, they already married to me.. find another girl please

Gepard build? Mine only gives 1800 shield

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

I use full def on main stat except for the rope i use energy rope, u can check my recent video to see my gepard build

@Kevin-um1nq

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch. Hi checked it out, maybe I just need to switch sets instead of doing rainbow and get better substats, I'm already at 2400 def and level 8 shield with correct ornaments so idk why it's this low

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

@@Kevin-um1nq probably it's because the relic set then

@Kevin-um1nq

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch. Yeah switched to 4pc knight and I have 2200 shield now, will get him to 80 and maybe one trace level and check shields again

You cannot comapre a 1 big nuke attack character to shotgun character

@ardaxus

2 ай бұрын

You can???

@ardaxus

2 ай бұрын

This is not damage per screenshot comparison, MOC cycles comparison is what being shown.

BANG RELICNYA HOKI BGT

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

Farming sebulan lebih itu 🤣, hoki darimane

@darrenwong5142

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch. Wkwkwkkwk setidaknya kerja kerasnya berbuah hasil, fuelku sisa 15

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

​@@darrenwong5142fuel mending dipake buat farm material atau trace sih, lebih worth it daripada dipake buat farm relic dapetnya scam

@darrenwong5142

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch. Ok bang 👍

both are good but jingliu is f2p friendly

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

True

Ruan best with jingliu 👍

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

I've tried it with Ruan mei and got the same result with Pela, so i chose Pela because it's more f2p for a lot of people

@marupurusaivamsi4802

2 ай бұрын

Huohuo tingyun combo is too good for jl. I can nearly keep her in state for entire fight.

Easily Jingliu. She doesn't depend on teammates and their LCs to get her damage while for Acheron if the enemies didn't hit gepard as much as they did she'd be way slower. Plus Jingliu can perform pretty good without her sig while Acheron S0 is years behind S1

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

Actually acheron without her sign lc still clear the MOC with the same cycle on my last video, not really a big difference between signature lightcone and gnsw

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

But jingliu much easier to build then acheron who needs a godly relic stats

@pillowhead4456

2 ай бұрын

Im a Jingliu main, but what do you mean she doesn't need teammates like Acheron? She still needs Nihility for def shred and harmony for more dmg or energy like any other hypercarry. I also own Acheron and her damage is on par with JL with GNSW S5, so she doesn't actually need her LC

@Donkam_haurder

2 ай бұрын

"Jing Liu doesn't depend on teammates", meanwhile Jing Liu use Bronya to move faster 😂

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

​@@Donkam_haurder this is the statement that a lot of people told us... but in practice, i can't even seperate bronya and pela from jingliu anymore 😂

Bang ingfo

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

Ingpo kan

Waifu showdown ini mah 😂

@Kinday_Ch.

2 ай бұрын

Yoi awkkw, waifu + dps meta emang debes

@Blue_88062

2 ай бұрын

@@Kinday_Ch.Benerr Wkkw, gk sabar saya gaca jingliu mwhehe waifu meta number 1 😂

Jingliu sucks next to Acheron, not even with support lol😂