Jin'talks - How Do Turrets Work in EVE Online?

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Hey folks, another of my math-y episodes! If you're interested in finding out why you're missing shots, or why you're not doing as much damage as you're supposed to, this should help you figure it out!

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  • @Greenbaumberg1
    @Greenbaumberg15 жыл бұрын

    good video that was really helpfull... but you ran out of cap at 13:23 :D

  • @razorbackblood06
    @razorbackblood064 жыл бұрын

    I feel like I need a video on angular and transversal velocities alone.

  • @Daedwartin2
    @Daedwartin25 жыл бұрын

    Interesting thing to consider is that a close up object that moves quickly can be harder to track than a far away object that moves at the same speed, because the angle is smaller.

  • @cyrusalthor8583
    @cyrusalthor85835 жыл бұрын

    Excellent stuff Jin. On the part about improving your damage output: stating a well known fact - jumping into a wormhole that has an environmental effect compatible with your turrets will also provide a big bonus! Specifically, using small turrets in a Wolf Rayet hole. Cheers.

  • @elita2cents
    @elita2cents5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Jin'taan, there is yet another way to increase your chances of hitting your target with a turret - piloting in a way that decreases your transversal and staying at the edge of your optimal range for lazors and hybrid turrets. For projectile turrets you can use our long falloff ranges since the damage curve is not a steep as it is for lazors and hybrid turrets.

  • @nospoiler9550
    @nospoiler95505 жыл бұрын

    Jin'taan : Me: Fly a drone boat and let the minions do this math for you.

  • @herbertpocket8855
    @herbertpocket88555 жыл бұрын

    This video really helped me understand why some of my turret fits are trash. I didn’t realize how important optimal range is, and only fit to increase the DPS number.

  • @INCC74656I
    @INCC74656I5 жыл бұрын

    thanks for these. with all the missing eve fest and AT its nice to hear jin`taan in other content. this brings to mind however, with all the crazy outfits ive seen you wear, ive never seen you in a CVA hat/dreads/and such a plain attire.

  • @irrelevantirrelevant2965
    @irrelevantirrelevant29655 жыл бұрын

    The only thing I could really think of that you didn't mention is the secondary effects of some ammo. Tracking penalties or bonuses mainly - although with those it's relatively easy to figure out whats going on.

  • @TheGuyWhoGamesAlot1
    @TheGuyWhoGamesAlot15 жыл бұрын

    LOL, I thought this was a lore video on how they worked. Great vid none the less

  • @markmey3365
    @markmey33654 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy your lore Videos and had hoped you would include a bit of it here. At example the lore behind "short range" space fight in EVE. Such heavy guns like Naglfars artillery should have a Range far far more advance in the thousands of Kilometer. At the same time the ships are in subspeed enourmous slow. There is a reason behind it if you look at how the ships generate energy, but a video about the tech lore would be really cool

  • @cloudkap
    @cloudkap5 жыл бұрын

    For those confused like I was at the beginning of the video... "signature resolution" was cut off at the bottom of the 1400mm arty attributes tab. Guns have a sig radius they like to hit as well, but Jin'taan covered how sig is important at the end of the vid. Cheers btw, it's a good vid as usual.

  • @Jintaan

    @Jintaan

    5 жыл бұрын

    The signature radius of _guns_ was normalised a long time ago, so it’s no longer relevant. All guns have the same value for that stat now, even capital ones!

  • @sirenbrian
    @sirenbrian5 жыл бұрын

    Very cool, thank you!

  • @cmdrarmored3889
    @cmdrarmored38895 жыл бұрын

    So how do I rearrange my info tab in game? >.> thank you for this.

  • @Rammelkas
    @Rammelkas5 жыл бұрын

    How would this explain the 0-15km 0 damage on a very small stationary target if you use HAW turrets on a dreadnaught?

  • @felixdumbravescu2725
    @felixdumbravescu27254 жыл бұрын

    Would be so nice to have proper real time accuracy assistance for our ships. I wont be able to tell sometimes if i have sufficient or insufficient tracking since i can't just look in overview, then look at my turrets and then start doing math while im being fired at.

  • @WTFdoNOTpeeONme
    @WTFdoNOTpeeONme5 жыл бұрын

    thats why i love blasters ... 0 and boom ^^

  • @darnelli7690
    @darnelli76904 жыл бұрын

    Think you could do a vid about how the precursor weapons work and how to get a dmg/time stat

  • @h4tchery
    @h4tchery5 жыл бұрын

    We got mathed! \o/

  • @Jintaan
    @Jintaan5 жыл бұрын

    Shoutout to Bap1811 for making a great text guide that covers this as well - Check it out here! - docs.google.com/document/d/1XLwEyzCLS-i2MT2knUejN3Md89Jeo01R5c27VvPYTLU/edit?usp=sharing

  • @Mic_Glow
    @Mic_Glow5 жыл бұрын

    "turret tracking" is extremely unintuitive. I prefer rad/s. Also angular velocity in overview should drop a few 0's... The first 2 or 3 are waste of space and make the value harder to read.

  • @Drazer012

    @Drazer012

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sadly, while rad/s is nice, there is not an option for it on the overview, because CCP wants to make things as difficult as possible.

  • @nonwatcher
    @nonwatcher5 жыл бұрын

    One mistake: overheating only increases your RoF for long range turrets. For short range turrets, overheating increases the hit damage.

  • @0xDEADBEEF

    @0xDEADBEEF

    5 жыл бұрын

    Also you have to make a remark about Wrecking Shots, if you get RNG=0.01 for specific turret it will do a "Wrecking Shot" (x3 Damage) even if your hit chance was 2%(0.02>0.01)

  • @resurrectionx5952
    @resurrectionx59525 жыл бұрын

    I am more confused then when i come here. Anyone know the trackin speed of drones/weapons in relationship to the target speed calculation ? Is it even worth to fit tracking links on drones? They fast already and orbiting the target in high speed in close proximity. Would the navigation computer and further increasing the speed of drones be better option as it have much better benefit values or target painter for that matter ? Thanks in advance

  • @Jintaan

    @Jintaan

    5 жыл бұрын

    Drones unless they’re sentry drones don’t need tracking links unless you’re trying to shoot heavies down to frigates, and even then you’ll only need one or so. If a target isn’t faster than the non-MWD speed of a drone it’ll be able to orbit it at a slower speed and track even better, which most rats will.

  • @resurrectionx5952

    @resurrectionx5952

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Jintaan thanks for prompt reply brother . I had a feeling those drone links are kinda weak and not worth the slot ( especially medium slot where I could squeeze it in) The low slot links are more powerful but still not worth the trade. Drones are kinda versatile as we can always launch scouts against frigate players or heavy against cruisers. I will just fit either target painter or drone speed instead.

  • @Tenshiwing
    @Tenshiwing5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome man, cheers. Now do missiles! My dumbass can't get those, you are my only hope lol

  • @trancer03
    @trancer035 жыл бұрын

    We like the news content because its more objective than the bullshit that comes out of boat and mittani, according to them skillurself disbanded because their leader stole isk lol, which is completely made up seeing how he was at their meeting in which they all decided together they are going to disband, and they also claim that they never lost in fights against skillurself while zkill shows skillurself slaughtering goons and their friends on many occasions

  • @Jintaan

    @Jintaan

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I try and be as neutral and objective as possible :)

  • @RexLabalan
    @RexLabalan2 жыл бұрын

    Wait wut? 706 dmg/12.807 dmg mod = 55.1261 Where'd you get that number? I'm looking for it in the base damage and I don't see it. What am I missing?

  • @pyrorico3279
    @pyrorico32795 жыл бұрын

    Fell asleep was like been in high school math class all over again.

  • @articletwelve8590
    @articletwelve85905 жыл бұрын

    sup jin tan

  • @jgphotography7746
    @jgphotography77463 жыл бұрын

    I get how ads are important but god damn dude. My internet is slow enough already.

  • @eduardmart1237
    @eduardmart12372 жыл бұрын

    Have the game changed? Now it seems that there are bigger numbers.

  • @williamnicholson8133
    @williamnicholson81335 жыл бұрын

    Void+approach=Win. Lol

  • @anthonystimmel3815
    @anthonystimmel38155 жыл бұрын

    thank god for missiles

  • @Jintaan

    @Jintaan

    5 жыл бұрын

    Don't make me do a missile formula one :P

  • @Chris-iv8sb

    @Chris-iv8sb

    5 жыл бұрын

    oh please do :3

  • @Nik-oe7df
    @Nik-oe7df2 ай бұрын

    math is wrong on your tracking component scenarios, unless you've heavily rounded off some numbers

  • @luciusavenus8715
    @luciusavenus87155 жыл бұрын

    eh, I just pew. this gave me a headache

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