Do you agree that Frank Sheeran did not murder Jimmy Hoffa?

@NewTheoryMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Great question

@johnstevenson4194

Жыл бұрын

He probably was in the room when it happened. Your friends lead you to your murder. Hoffa hated Tony Pro and would not go by himself to meet with him

@make817

Жыл бұрын

yes.... it´s funny...two bullshit artist:kuklinski and sheeran..... kuklinski was real(proven) killer(i mean 3-5murder,not 200-300) but lies his ties to mafia and sheeran did really have ties to mafia but lies to be a killer 🤔😁

@josephsierzengaIV

Жыл бұрын

NO! It was Tony ‘Pal’ Palazzolo Detroit Partnership Vito Giacolone Crew💯

@frankie57

Жыл бұрын

Add the Andretti brothers from Brooklyn they were there that day worked for Tony Pro. They got rid of the body.

It makes sense that Hoffa would absolutely not get in that car unless he saw someone in the car that he trusted, so it very likely that Sheeran was in the car. I never thought Frank pulled the trigger on Jimmy because he knew him so well and the mob would never trust him to do it. Why did Frank tell the story because he knew full well the truth would never come out.

@drj8050

8 ай бұрын

The way the book explains it, when they wanted someone dead they sent their best friend to do it. Seems like they didn’t really have a choice, when frank was told he had to kill Jimmy, Jimmy’s fate was already decided. He could either kill Jimmy or they would both die.

@josephsierzengaIV

2 ай бұрын

Frank wasn’t nearly as close to the local guys that put Hoffa on and knew him since the 1940’s🤦‍♂️

@ZemaiorPittman-lz7os

2 ай бұрын

Frank Nitti Usher killed Hoffa

Problem was, Hoffa was his own worse enemy. He was beyond prideful, her was so full of himself I'm surprised he did not simply explode. On the other hand, Hoffa was a genius in labor organization and management. When Hoffa ran the Teamsters, the work men & women did very, very well and once Hoffa was removed from the Teamsters, the working class never had a chance like that again. Hoffa should have shut up, pretended he would play nice and be their "boy." Then once head of the Teamsters he could expose the whole rotten edifice of mob involvement.

@namvet1968

Жыл бұрын

Grew up in Detroit area. Hoffa had guts and fought for labor. He should have stayed away from those mob assholes.

@wildestcowboy2668

Жыл бұрын

Detroit playas be soft Memphis TN rough man rough

@daltonrul9692

11 ай бұрын

How the fck do u know

@2pugman

6 ай бұрын

In my early working years, we worked 60 hours a week at $1 an hour. NO benefits at all. The Teamsters came along in '63 and we signed up. We got more money, sick days and vacations !

@phillipgarrow2297

6 ай бұрын

I'm from Michigan this Hoffa mystery has been going on for years I don't think we will ever find him or who was involved by now most of the players are probably dead of old age

For what it's worth, Sheeran told his biographers he was also contingent in helping the Cuban counter-Castro group as featured in the film. Had the same writer brought up the Kennedy assassination and the Marilyn Monroe connection, the Vietnam War and any other current news items, Sheeran would have mentioned his involvement in those items as well. And its all true. As true as his whacking of Crazy Joe.

@tedwojtasik8781

Жыл бұрын

Dude was a connected Forest Gump

@reaper7264

Жыл бұрын

He had nothing to do with Joe G. Thats been debunked.

@ColoradoCarrolls

Жыл бұрын

Like most followers, he was always looking to be something

@jbard9892

Жыл бұрын

He did claim involvement in the Kennedy assassination. He said in November 1963 he was told to go to an Italian restaurant in Brooklyn, pick up three rifles and deliver them to a pilot, the implication being that those were guns used to kill Kennedy with mob guys pulling the trigger. He also claimed that he delivered a bribe of half a million dollars to President Nixon, and that the bag man that Nixon used and Sheeran delivered the money to, was serving U.S. Attorney General John Mitchell.

@WisteriaNerium

9 ай бұрын

@@reaper7264 It's sarcasm

Hoffa's adopted son was also deeply involved in the murder and disappearance. Very Shakespearean.

Whoever killed Hoffa one thing is for sure, the mod disposed of him in the easiest and most discrete way. They don't usually go for elaborate difficult disposal methods. They like easy. Cement shoes are a near total myth with probably one or certainly not many cases ever. It's too difficult and could expose the perpetrators for extended lengths of time. The easier the better.

@ericteneyck8691

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Those stories about taking the body to New Jersey or the Nevada desert don't make sense. They cremated him, buried him in the woods, dumped hm in Lake Michigan or something close and simple like that. I don't know who killed him, but they almost certainly would have disposed of the body right away.

@aharonbaalshem

Жыл бұрын

Tell that the the Murder Machine of the Gambino Crime Family. They would shoot you in the head, stab you in the heart. Drain all your blood and than chop your body up and spread it in dumpsters around the city. By the time the missing person report was filed they were in the dump. A very technical method used to dispatch over a hundred people. That's why the hired assassins to do the work for them, the bosses and Capo's that us

My father knew Jimmy personally and was one of Jimmy's men sent to various locals to straighten them out. What happened and who did it is, and I always think, will be unknown. Anyone who knew is dead, on purpose or of old age. However, the reason why Hoffa was taken out is very simple. When he went to prison, one thing that happened is that would no longer be allowed to rejoin the Teamsters, nor allowed to run for President again. When he got out, he was making a deal with the Federal government to turn in his mob buddies with the condition that he could run for union President again. Of course the mob could not allow this, Hoffa did know too much and he was willing to turn everything in. My father believed that Jimmy was quickly shot, dumped into a vehicle and taken to a car smasher not too far away. The car was crushed and duped out at sea or in a smelter plant

@finddeniro

11 ай бұрын

Smelted ...Strong Idea..

@finddeniro

9 ай бұрын

Sure...Thanks..Hoffa knew the Highs and Lows..

@finddeniro

7 ай бұрын

July 1975.. UAW was laughin at the News of missin' a Jimmy.. Ah Moneys and Flow of want.

@donjulio4025

7 ай бұрын

yeah right. no need to lie, doesn't make you look good

@sciguyjeff

7 ай бұрын

No lie pal.@@donjulio4025

"Some think its Scorsese's masterpiece" I can think of 5 Scorsese film off the top of my head better than The Irishman

@davidrenton

Жыл бұрын

After Hours at #1 am i right, or am i right

@enriquec.5980

9 ай бұрын

Raging Bull GoodFellas The Age of Innocence Taxi Driver And The Irishman would be number five to me

@PrinceSmith7

3 ай бұрын

I agree with you but then again, Scorsese's top 5 is insanely stacked. Even if a movie is 10/10 it's still not guaranteed a spot in that list unless it's Raging Bull, Goodfellas or Taxi Driver. So it's possible for The Irishman to be excluded from that list and still be considered a masterpiece/great film.

@Steve52344

3 ай бұрын

It indeed IS "Scorsese's masterpiece." And Scorsese himself would agree.

Great video 🍿

Of all of the things that I've heard of his death and disappearance, the movie's explanation of how easy it would be to make someone totally vanish makes sense. Whether it's the truth or not I dunno. But cremating makes perfect sense to me

@teresawhitstine

Жыл бұрын

They did cremate him, but mixed the ashes into the cement, but, he is in 1 block.. the cornerstone block of the Renaissance center.. when ya go to walk in, look over at that 1 cornerstone and say hi to jimmy.. 😂

Back in the day and living in the area, the joke was that Jimmy was holding up one of the pillars of the Pontiac Sports Stadium which was being built down the road from the restaurant. They were pouring cement about that time.

@From-North-Jersey

Жыл бұрын

There were rumors here in the north east that the body of Jimmy Hoffa was brought to new jersey in a barrel and buried under the concrete the AstroTurf field was laid on in the old Giant's Stadium. Every time a player fell down without contact a wise-ass in every section thru out the stadium would do their best impersonation of the in stadium announcer and loudly proclaim "Tackle by Hoffa"

@robertstone9342

Жыл бұрын

I grew up down the road from the pontiac silverdome. I heard something similar. Also about the giants stadium as well.

@peggykoch1716

Жыл бұрын

I heard he's buried under the Jefferson freeway

@darkhobo

Жыл бұрын

The Silverdome? Well we can find out now!

@GotterdammerungX

Жыл бұрын

I had heard he was in the foundations of the RenCen

I used to know someone who owned an ambulance service in downriver Detroit and claimed to have transported a body in an ambulance from the last house Hoffa was known to be at to a different house, he also said Hoffa may have been taken to a rendering plant in Coldwater, Michigan and made into animal feed.

@slowery43

4 ай бұрын

well if someone supposedly told you something who's the question that?!?!?! Clearly you solved this whole case thank you so much cupcake we can close the book on this now.

Above all, it's a movie. And a damn good one.

Well I don't know if Sheeran did it but he seemed to want credit for it for some reason. His daughter disowned him for it. She was convinced he was involved and he didn't seem to try to change her mind.

@thomasshort1784

Жыл бұрын

@Andy Mullarx I've heard about that too (and, mind you, that's from the book, never mind the movie).

@christosshugeh9573

Жыл бұрын

It's only the film that tells you Peggy suspected her father. In reality he was not a good father and his girls were afraid of him. There is probably a million reasons that Peggy disowned him.

The interesting thing here is why Sally Bugs was whacked. The film states he was killed after he been seen going to the FBI HQ, and that he had actually given heads about the FBI meeting, but that someone had forgot to tell the higher ups. The film wants it to look like a non-sensical Mafia mess up. However, to me all this makes more sense if you actually believe that it was Sally Bugs who shot Hoffa. The involved parts of the Mob was definitely hard pressed by the FBI and they were probably just waiting for someone to squeel. What better way to send a message to those individuals involved than to whack the actual Hoffa shooter? First to show that you were ready to cut any loose threads in Hoffa situation, showing that the Mafia were not taking any chances through "due process", and that those involved better watch themselves. And second to really mess up any chances for the other people involved to cut a deal with the FBI. I mean, what was the other guys, like Sheeran going to do? Go to the FBI and blame the murder on a dead guy? Yeah well of course the FBI wanted to uncover the whole conspiracy, and pinch more people than the actual shooter, but still. Also Bugs was probably not a Bug, but a Spider in the net that connected the murder crew with the higher ups that ordered the murder, so an important piece dissapeared with Bugs. As said, the film make the murder of Sally Bugs murder look like stupid mistake made by a organisation becoming even more paranoid and even more callous than it already was. However my belief is that given, Sally Bugs was the Hoffa-killer, the Mafia leadership was just waiting for a chance to have him whacked, and that the Mafia leadership conciously wanted to show that they were ready to "commit mistakes" in order to protect itself. Btw, good work with the video! I really love how you connect the FBI-theory of Hoffas murder and connect it to the back story of how the idea for the movie plot was conceived by Deniro and Scorsese. Every story has its own story! I really think that this channel deserves a lot more views!

@MoviesConsigliere

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for taking the time to watch my video and for sharing your thoughts on the Hoffa case. Your insights on Sally Bugs and his involvement in Hoffa's murder add a fascinating layer to the story. I appreciate your attention to detail and analysis of the events. Your kind words mean a lot to me, and I hope to continue to produce content that you find interesting and engaging. Thank you again for your support!

@888strummer

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you. Salvatore "Sally Bugs" Briguglio killed Hoffa. And the FBI has always known this

@genelucci8881

6 ай бұрын

​@@MoviesConsigliereEvery story has a back story. Love it. So true. Probably dozens of people , dozens of tangents . What really happened is darker

Mob, government, what's the difference? There isn't any except that one of them legalized itself.

@SirDistic

4 ай бұрын

It's almost like the lottery used to be called "numbers" by the mob. And like how sports betting is now legal in some areas.

I remember when Jimmy Hoffa disappeared. I was in college at the time. I doubted he would ever be found.

@finddeniro

11 ай бұрын

1975.

@cardinaloflannagancr8929

7 ай бұрын

Same here I also never understood why people expect there needs to be a body to find. This wasn't a spur of the moment thing that happened they could easily have reduced the remains to virtually nothing.

@slowery43

4 ай бұрын

not a sole cares, this isn't the "where was kirk when Hoffa disappeaared" channel

The most important thing you need to remember about the Hoffa case was his agreement with the government to disengage from the Teamsters in exchange for his freedom. From that moment forward he was under constant surveillance by not just the FBI but also very likely the Agency (because of his involvement if not in the Kennedy case directly - but certainly the trafficking of arms and narcotics through the Miami/JM-WAVE operation). He was also most likely a Confidential Informant (once the Feds put the squeeze on you there really are very few options other than co-operation). If Hoffa was arranging a meetup with Giacalone in an effort to retake the leadership of the Teamsters the feds would have known about it. They had so many CI's providing intelligence it would be impossible for them not to know. The Mob knew Hoffa was being watched night and day. Just the notion that they'd move against Hoffa at such a time is utterly preposterous. It's not that the Feds necessarily cared one way or another about Hoffa. They just didn't want them running some kind of half-assed operation (remember, these are largely street punks - not too bright) which would blow up in everyone's faces - particularly the Ford administration which was fighting tooth and nail to clean up the mess following the Watergate burglary. Hoffa was a problem. He knew too much and in his desperation to regain control of the Teamsters he was showing signs that he might begin to talk. Jimmy had to go. And whoever did the job had to do it right. No mistakes. No blowback. Which means a Mob assassination is out of the question. For a job like this you use trained killers. I'm not talking about wheezing, over-the-hill thugs like Frank Sheeran. A military operation with a kill team rotated most likely out of Vietnam or Cambodia. Or perhaps he FBI as they had their own bunch of trained killers which they kept over the border in Mexico. But definitely not the Mob. You can't trust those guys not to screw up. One other thing to remember - the title of the film was changed from the book to "The Irishman". But WHO was the Irishman in the movie? I mean, it's implied that it's Sheeran. But given the subtext of the film and its links to November 23rd 1963 - you could conceivably believe the Irishman was, in fact, John F. Kennedy. For me one of the most important shots in the film was that of the infirmed Kennedy patriarch looking across the waters from his wheelchair. A penny for his thoughts at that time indeed ...

@philipsbailo3140

Жыл бұрын

You said mafia guys were street punks and not to bright but the government guys were the same thing as a matter of fact mafia guys were consulted and used for operation mongoose not every mafia guy was stupid is all I'm saying also I disagree with you about the government killing Hoffa the agency or the bureau but that's why America is the best were can voice our opinions have a good one

@deaddropholiday

Жыл бұрын

@@philipsbailo3140 There's absolutely no comparison between the Mafia and the National Security State. The former can muster a few hoods with baseball bats, .38s for hits up close, unsophisticated explosives. The latter has access to Apache helicopter gunships, the best signals intelligence money can buy, battle-hardened assassins, drones, satellites, armored vehicles and best of all - the Law. Sure, there was some consultation with the top tier of organised crime during the Cuba thing. But they were footsoldiers - nothing more, nothing less. People in government (not THE government - there's a difference) order hits all of the time. What do you think Hoover's Division Five were up to all those years? The Mob didn't dare hit Hoffa while he was under constant surveillance. Which leaves a very, very small number of suspects...

@smorgasbroad1132

Жыл бұрын

Wow. Nice analysis. Impressive.

@wildestcowboy2668

Жыл бұрын

Your Papaw would be ashamed of you

@deaddropholiday

Жыл бұрын

@@wildestcowboy2668 The old man lobotomised his daughter. Shame was alien to him.

I believe that Frank was there and Bugs most likely shot him but his body was disposed of it wasn't brought to New Jersey and buried in Giants stadium or recently in Jersey city

It's really not that difficult..the Detroit mob had several men who could disappear someone. These guys have a great respect for omerta and that's that. You will never know who killed Hoffa because it doesn't matter...we already know that Detroit mob had him killed. And that's that

@josephsierzengaIV

11 ай бұрын

💯

He is i Lake Superior. My friends mom was dating a man from the mob and told her how he was dumped in Lake Superior. He will never be found.

The only reason that they can’t find Hoffa body is they had him cremated and scattered the ashes.

@shakenbake3107

Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard that to. What I heard was his body was flown into Niagara Falls NY cremated and scattered in Lake Ontario

@slowery43

4 ай бұрын

except you have zero proof so your post is beyond worthless

@huwgrossmith9555

2 ай бұрын

No ashes from cremation. What most believe are ashes are ground up pelvis which the ovens used can't get hot enough to burn. The rest pretty much goes up the flue.

So the big question is, what happened to Hoffa's body ?

@derrickdagastino3792

Жыл бұрын

Renaissance center in Detroit

@Frosty98206

Жыл бұрын

The Theory makes the most scene is Inceration if gonna Kill Someone that's the smartest Method if you put them in a Grave somewhere who knows (A few yrs ago By or a Few Decades) & Eventually stumbles or notices something like what happened to the Spilotro Brothers being Buried in a Field,(Only Reason were found was cause Dirt & Area was Freshly Dug/Thus Peaking ppl Interest), The Killers in Hoffa Hit were Analytical about this, If you Inceriates someone & Scatter the Ashes their Spread all over the Place(Thus harder to tie to a Crime/No Body) whereas if discover the Body they can use the bones to Indenify who it was(Dental Records/Teeth) not unless it's dissolved in Acid or something to that Effect.

@BallzDeep666

3 ай бұрын

Incenersted at the General Linen Plant in Detroit owned by Jack Tocco that burnt down 2 weeks after just before the feds raided it.

@richardkranium2944

Ай бұрын

@@BallzDeep666 wow somebody is aware of mad Jack Tocco. Spot on assessment

is it just me? but the picture of Thomas Andretta at 3:28 looks alot like Henry Hill

I'm a 58 year old Michigan guy, born and raised 1 hour north of Detroit and still live here. I remember when Hoffa went missing and the news knew all about his Mafia ties and all the gangsters he hung out with. Shortly (6 months) after Hoffa went missing Central Sanitation (Owned by the Mob) in Hamtramck (Suburb of Detroit) mysteriously burned to the ground. Several mob associates have said that mobsters took bodies to be incinerated so they could never be found over to Central Sanitation and were cremated, After the Feds started interviewing Mob associates Central Sanitation was burned to the ground in an arson fire. Central Sanitation was the easiest way to dispose of a corpse and the Mob used that facility many times until they burned it down to cover up any possible evidence linking them to Hoffa. Why take the chance of transporting his body to the east coast to dump him in the ocean or to places outside of Michigan when you can drive 20 minutes to simply incenerate the body and never leave any evidence to link them to the crime. It was reported many times and every Detroit news statiion was covering it. As the years went on the mystery just kept getting more and more silly with stories of where Hoffa's body was dumped, Giants Stadium endzone, The concrete footings at the Renaissance Center in downtown Detroit. It makes perfect sense to only use a Mob owned buisness to get rid of bodies rather than transport them elsewhere and risk getting caught. Hoffa was nothing but ash hours after he was killed near the Machus Red Fox restaurant.

@ZemaiorPittman-lz7os

2 ай бұрын

Frank nitti usher. He was the driver

We had daily run cupolas for melting iron. I put the bottoms in on midnight shift and started for ops later in morning. On Sunday 12 midnight there was only 2 or 3 of us in the whole place. Once I had the coke fire started there was nothing to stop a person from bringing a body from railroad tracks to cupola area drop it in charge bucket and send it up no one would have seen it. And by the time we ran 17 hours at 3000 degrees there wouldn’t be anything left of body or our weekly ran one was even hotter and burned for at least a week straight. I know there were lots of foundries in area where he went missing

“You could put a body in the trunk of a Toyota and have it crushed, then sent to the foundry to be melted down” - Richard Kuklinski

@user-lc4rx9no1y

3 ай бұрын

He could be a Toyota

Jack Nicholson's portrayal of Hoffa was the best

@MasterWitchDoctor

Жыл бұрын

they were very different movies, Nicholson's version was more of a biography whereas Pacino's version is more of a story. I wouldnt believe a word Frank Sheeran said about anything. If he told me the sky is blue Id have to go look for myself.

The movie is just not one that I would watch again. Casino and Goodfellas can watch whenever on.

@Eagle-nq2mv

Жыл бұрын

Hoffa was bad to the bone anyway.his death was no loss to the human race.

Something tells me that a wood chopper also went missing. A movie company stole my idea of the wood chopper and used it in the movie FARGO.

At 5:58, Joe Pesci’s character looks like the old dude from Disney’s UP if he were a mob boss. Heh.

When Bufalino retired, big Billy D'Elia took over as boss and has said Frank Sheeran lied about some things. Big Billy has just written a book called...The Life We Chose....to correct the lies of Frank Sheeran and tell the true story. The book comes out this July. It will be VERY interesting!

@tehf00n

Жыл бұрын

I must trust that criminal then.

@PSU2024

Жыл бұрын

@@tehf00n Not sure what you mean.

@tehf00n

Жыл бұрын

@@PSU2024 Well why would I trust a criminal trying to make money from a book? The stories the mafia put out are always half truths.

I would honestly pay big bucks to see live security cam footage w/ audio at the restaurant where Dan Moldea met w/ Robert Dinero!! 😂😂 I lost it immediately and even searched it up to validate it and was so glad it appears to be!! Can you image Rob thinking he’s meeting up w/ the guy for a serious interview or to talk business and almost immediately, the guy starts talking to him in a tone like Jimmy from Goodfellas, Travis Bickle or Vito Corleone?

There's absolutely no mystery here. The Irishman was definitely not Scorsese's masterpiece.

better title as HOFFA MOVIE REVIEW!!!

Every mob hitman claims to have killed the guy

@ZemaiorPittman-lz7os

2 ай бұрын

Tony Jack use black urban dealers to kill his opps. Murders row. Frank nitti usher killed hoffa

It doesn't matter if The Irishman is accurate. It's a movie based on the book by Frank Sheehan. So it's a point of view from him. The truth doesn't matter. And this movie is great.

@PrinceSmith7

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely, it's an adaptation of the book *I Heard You Paint Houses* and not a documentary.

Is there some kind of law that states you can't make a mob flick without DeNiro and Pesci in it...?

@pennsyltuckyden9823

Жыл бұрын

YES

@nans969

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@ladylestranj

Жыл бұрын

@@pennsyltuckyden9823 lol

@jbard9892

Жыл бұрын

if there isn't, there oughta be.

Ed was the number one suspect in the murder and they found evidence of Hoffas presence in the car they picked him up in. I’m sure Ed did it or at least was there.

@gordon2945

Жыл бұрын

According to Michael franseese former mob boss he said 100% that frank sheeren did not kill hofa,

@josephsierzengaIV

11 ай бұрын

Ed? Anthony ‘Tony Jack’ Giacolone is #1 I have a copy of the HOFF-EX FBI report.

@artkarounos816

11 ай бұрын

@@josephsierzengaIV type mistake yes Tony was also suspected but Irish was also

@josephsierzengaIV

11 ай бұрын

@@artkarounos816 Frank was #8 in a category called ‘Contacts/People of interest’ That was under ‘Top Suspects’ ***I wish KZread allowed subscribers to post pictures….

I remember that, when asked wether it was meant to be a historical movie or not, Scorsese answering that it was "Certain people's alleged version of history".....I think that, if you are willing to see it that way instead of looking at the movie as if it was some sort of documentary (which I am not accusing you of doing at all, just so we're clear) you can definitely enjoy the movie for what it is.

I was a young Teamster when Hoffa disappeared. The 60/70's were crazy time's , big names getting whacked .

A editor from the new tour times was in the restaurant when Joey Gallo got hit & gave a accurate description of the shooter. Hulking man over 6 feet tall! I’m just saying.

The one thing you forgot to add was this. Hoffa help build Vegas with teamsters funds. Which today's would be billions. The mob was to pay it back in 100million each year, but when Hoffa went to prison they stopped paying or didn't pay back as much. Jimmy know the amount the kcmo mob and NYC mob owned and was champion his way back into leadership but both heads of the mobs know they couldn't pay back the billion dollars they now put into Vegas. Which as to why the IRS started to come down on all the mob owned casinos to force them out of business. So in today's wealth both kcmo and NYC mob heads owned the teamsters $3 billion in back pay.

Hoffa was killed and incenerated in nearby funeral home

I think the concrete union is worth a look!

I read the book almost a decade before the movie came out, I don't think he did it, but was Involved, his name was on the hofex memo

Never laughed so hard at all the CG used in this movie. Finally a Scorsese film for the times.

@MoviesConsigliere

Жыл бұрын

The de-aging technology was terrible, particularly on Robert Di Nero.

@lilhawk022

Жыл бұрын

The CGI was not a focal point, it was better to use CGI than use a younger actor portraying all of these men in their younger years. And outside of De Niros blue eyes, the CGI was hardly noticeable.

@DUANEYAISER

Жыл бұрын

Yeah! When he was a "young man," I had NO idea what his age was supposed to be.

@ndogg20

Жыл бұрын

@@lilhawk022 , conversely, I think using younger actors portraying the older characters would have worked better. Could you imagine The Godfather II which also featured De Niro as a young Vito Coleone, but instead of a De Niro you have Marlon Brando with a ton of pancake pasted on? Yeah awful. As was The Irishman and its CGI which broke the 4th wall one time to many. After De Niro almost falls over trying to kick that grocer, I just left the film and never looked back.

@lilhawk022

Жыл бұрын

@@ndogg20 that scene was wonky. But not enough to discredit the film entirely.. I'm just saying I prefer CGI with the same actors in it over having different actors portray the actors early in their life.

My Dad is actually a union rep for Teamsters (Edmonton, Alberta chapter)

When I was a kid , a grave size hole appeared in the woods we played in. We never saw who dug it ,and one day it was just filled in . I have been wondering in recent years if it could have been a hidden burial , maybe hoffa even .it was the right time frame

Our government killed Jimmy Hoffa, you know why, the government makes the most money in the trucking business.

@ZemaiorPittman-lz7os

2 ай бұрын

Frank Nitti Usher killed Hoffa

Historically accurate or not, I liked the movie.

No mention Kayo Kronigberg. He technically was a character in the movie. He would have been the weird looking guy who says nothing and always wears sunglasses; like when he’s driving while Sally Bugs strangles that guy in the car…..that would have actually been Kayo Kronigsberg, mafia associate known for being a ruthless killer and went away for 50 years Was released in 2014 and went straight to a retirement home were he ran rackets and bullied everyone else, as an 88 year old

Movies NEVER tell the truth.

I've often wondered if our govt had a hand in it as he was violating the agreement made w Nixon

Mr.roberto Dinero, & Alfredo, s.. both are still greatest, actor's.. still can moves around..

In this day of mob informers, snitches and untold secrets ,.... very rare no one has trufully talked.

A well placed mobster said that the only thing Frank Sheeran killed was jugs of red wine. Lies are way more interesting than the actual truth. The film is a tissue of lies so its entertaining.

Hoffa, made a very big mistake in crossing the mob. Especially, from what I understand you don’t touch their money.

@user-jn1ot1db5p

5 ай бұрын

It was the Teansters money

If The Irishman is not true, who else could have got that close to Hoffa, since he was paranoid before death.

My guess is sally bugs

It wasn't a furnace it was a boiler

You say this was well before our time. Well truly for many us older folks it was of our our time as this happened in the late 60s or early 70s. Everyone used to theorize where in the desert his body was buried.

That was one case where everybody kept their mouths shut

Back then, we used to joke about knowing which I94 overpass pillar was Jimmy's. Of course, we could never remember which one we picked last. I think we decided that every one had a piece embedded in it.

Jimmy didn't know when to sit down and hush and they taught him how....

His Own secret society got him wow

I heard one version of Hoffa's death, where the Mafia didn't kill him but were involved. The story was that the guys sent to meat Hoffa at the Red Fox Lounge were all mid-level mobsters, sent to tell Hoffa he was out as head of the Teamsters. Hoffa was use to dealing with only the top level and took it as a great insult. Hoffa flew into a rage and dropped dead of a heart attack. Which makes sense because Hoffa was known to have a bad temper and a bad heart. The mobsters then called their boss to tell him what happened and were told to make Hoffa disappear.

@namvet1968

Жыл бұрын

Grew up in that area. Heard that story. He was so pissed his heart gave out.

@josephsierzengaIV

11 ай бұрын

Yeah.. that’s false.

Actually live right next to the cemetery Buffalino is buried in Denison cemetery Swoyersville PA

He is near the water as one of the Mafia guys spoke out.

Well I have it on good authority that Jimmy is doing an Elvis Impersonation act in Vegas.

It wasn't a novel. At the library, it's under true crime.

2:56 An airship? No shit? Lotta zeppelins flyin' around in the 1970s?

I liked the film- excellent acting and a good plot- and the book it’s based on. It contains a few glaring inaccuracies though , like the Hoffa murder and the Joey Gallo hit. The latter didn’t make sense even in the context of the film; a boss having a made man from another family murdered because he was rude to Sheeran. That would have caused all manner of trouble..

@MoviesConsigliere

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree with you.

@johnstevenson4194

Жыл бұрын

Gallo was rude to Buffalino, a boss who was good friends with Joe Colombo

@androlibre9661

Жыл бұрын

I couldnt get past the horrible special effects. DeNiro just looked weird. That De aged face on an elderly body just took me out the movie. That one scene where he's supposed to be running down the alley.....I laughed out loud when I saw it. And the part where he's supposed to be tuning up the guy at the grocery store.....it looked stupid

Michael Franzeze who knows what happened said he didnt do it.

May have been well before YOUR time but I well remember it. I was 13 years old.

Buffalino!? LOL

DB Cooper has been solved but it has not been publicized in the media.

Poor judgment by Scorsese

Most keep forgetting that Hoffa was the one that organized the United States Trucking Industry Operational Standards and Pay scale! Which is still the one being used today! As The Trucking Industry has become largely dis-adequate and over burdened for the needs of Positive Productionism, Commerce and Transportation Workers balanced Living Needs. We Need to switch Cargo Transportation over to Antigravitational Air Transportation for a lot of Reasons. One is it opens up World Trade like no other Transportation System We have, and improves Product transfer time line rates tremendously. Cargo going across The United States can be delivered in a matter of 5 hours after being loaded versus 5 days in Trucks, with a lot of issues to deal with All along the way. Then in International Trade, Antigravitational Air Freight can be done anywhere from 8 to 15 hours safely, and very safely, versus up to a month to get it to a truck from a Ship. Then instead of being limited to 45,000 pounds in a Truck with multiple Driver Issues in every day and every way, Antigravitational Flight can take upto a million pounds through the Air very Safely for maximum completed deliveries without loss of life to Drivers. We have this Technology through Nicola Tesla, our governments have been working on it a long time and now it is time to use it and transfer the Human Transportation Systems over to it. Because We Need it, and it is a far far Better System than what we have. It also cuts down fuel cost and The Prices on Every Product in Markets anywhere. Which have all gone up twice and recently again since the 2000s. It also opens up many many many other Product Developments, Industries, Markets, Jobs and Investment Opportunities, leading to many many more endlessly...

Nah, Hoffa is walled up in the basement of the Red Fox restaurant. You heard it here first.

Clear as mud.

You just need to imagine like it's all in ScorceseUniverse... His version, from his reality...

I dont know why Frank would say he killed him (he had to or be killed himself) Frank said his daughters had refused to talk to him anymore because they felt he did it. Compared to the book, the movie stunk! Big disappointment I believe the house where the murder (ocurred) has been checked and all Franks info lined up You could tell he really loved Hoffa but it was him or Hoffa

I didn't hear any Truth Revealed, just a rambling mess of possibilities.

Red on red Mercury was hard. Lol

Before your time maybe but I remember the front page stories

commentator for got to add another popular phrase at that time : ' who shot J.R"?😊

Sad thing is that in many ways the actors that played the real guys are just as bad.

I still remember Jack Nicholson & Danny deVito movie: Hoffa.

@jbard9892

Жыл бұрын

you poor thing!

They will never solve hoffas murder. Whos kidding who

Great movie I love it

Where's the BEEF ....??

The worst part is these mobsters running around getting movie deals after their murderers and some of the biggest trash in the world. And they're living it up while hard workers get shit on

I thought the "McGee" reference was to Fat Tony Salerno.

@koDaffi

Жыл бұрын

Nah In Russell Buffalino FBI file they have his alias as McGee.. Very awesome read, thing is the size of a phone book though.

@DummyYEEEAAHHHHH

Жыл бұрын

@@koDaffi wow...I didn't know that. Thank you for correcting me. And that's not sarcasm.

@koDaffi

Жыл бұрын

@@DummyYEEEAAHHHHH No problem friend, if you google his FBI file you can get it in a pdf, he was involved in basically everything mafia related throughout all the familes since the beginning. Sheeran shows up in it as well as one of his associates.

Buffalino? No way. This is Detroit and no one tells Joe Zerilli? Only if they want to be sleeping in the lake.

@jeffhansen7207

Жыл бұрын

Zerilli was in prison and they kept him out of the loop for a good reason. He turned rat. I have a copy of "his story"

My source says there is no body, something about a wood chipper.

Buried in cement in the Meadowlands.. Forget about it.

So where is Jimmy Hoffa somebody step up to the plate

He shoulda taken the food and beverage job!

One thing Sheeran didn’t lie about was gabapentin that shit makes you feel loopy as hell..