A seventy-five minute, Jim Cornette segment on Territory Wrestling... This is the Meat of this channel.

@tylerdurden788

2 жыл бұрын

Him and Bruce prichard are great for history

@djchino774

2 жыл бұрын

Love these kind of videos. Don't care much for aew or wwe

@hardusdeklerk8993

2 жыл бұрын

for sure! i can't watch that aew shit! i just can't! It is good for a laugh to hear Jim and Brian talk about that shit, but it takes too much time. THIS IS THE BEST PART OF JIM'S CHANNEL! I LOVE HISTORY CHATS!

@lukec2799

2 жыл бұрын

💯

@JackTheripper911

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerdurden788 Bruce Pritchard doesn't know history 🤣🤣 he knows bullshit Vince revised, sanitized, Corporate "history". Bruce does not know legitimate historical facts,

This is actually my email they answered. Very cool hearing more about the territories and that my question led to an hour ± conversation.

@craigthompson4177

2 жыл бұрын

dude ur a legend asking that question

@subikshrestha2308

11 ай бұрын

Dude, thanks.

@AJWEXIST47

4 ай бұрын

And thanks again, I’m painting and listening to this.

@DanielStarbuck

6 күн бұрын

Thanks for asking this, I can't sleep so I'm listening to old corny clips and loving ive come across this one.

Honestly I much prefer territory talks over current wrestling shows. Hopefully this won't be a one time thing and you guys would make a series out of it.

@misterknightowlsguitarrant6984

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Modern wrestling isn’t worth talking about.

@JamesWilsonMD

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanodeli7031 yea the drive thru is just used to review dynamite, nxt and occasionally raw and sd.. the experience is just the same as well as plugging the same sponsors and jim ranting about politics etc. The old stuff was great, this stuff is golden and the rest is crap!

@areguapiri

Жыл бұрын

For me, territory talk "IS/WAS" wrestling. Anything after 1985 is trash.

@davidbrakefield6825

10 ай бұрын

I much prefer these types of shows over the reviews of what passes for wrestling now days.

@tankwfw

8 ай бұрын

Same. Honestly I don't even watch modern wrestling. Haven't in about 10 years

Jason is the MVP for asking the question that opened up this talk

@jasonbaker5789

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the compliment

Some of the best episodes are Cornette talking about the territories. Being from the Carolinas and a lifelong wrestling fan it is always great hearing the stories and history of everything

Love this episode. I was born in 1965 and grew up watching wrestling during the territory days. To me, it was the best time to be a wrestling fan. In those days, it was professional wrestling, not sports entertainment.

An hour of JC? Yes.

@LINKMASTERX

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck yes

@fmdof

2 жыл бұрын

an hour of Corny that's not modern wrestling reviews. hell's yes!

@shawnamyotte893

2 жыл бұрын

Love his tangents about anything, always interesting.

@bighand1530

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah.

I would love Jim to just do a deep dive into every territory and just spend hours talking about this. It's fascinating!

This is the kind of stuff I listen for! Jim talking about territory wrestling is better than anything on TV. I would have loved to see a Midnight vs. Von Erichs feud.

@HitPeace

2 жыл бұрын

Ye

As a Detroiter, it was nice to hear about Big Time Wrestling. There isn’t many documentaries on KZread about it that I’ve found. Thanks JC.

@maceomaceo11

2 жыл бұрын

I Like To Hurt People is the only "documentary" anybody needs to see about Big Time Wrestling...

@LuckyStrike01

2 жыл бұрын

Check out the KZread channel “original wrestling documentaries” they have a short history of every territory, even some of the smaller more obscure ones.

@LuckyStrike01

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/laRt2byJdajAfbw.html is the link for it but check them all out the channel is great.

@dougcantrell8789

2 жыл бұрын

Check out Big Time Memories with Terry Sullivan.

This is the content i'm looking for, i discovered Wrestling during the Attitude Era and i don't really know really too much about the landscape of american pro wrestling before WWE turning in the big corporation of the last 20 years. This is solid gold for me

@Jefso1404

2 жыл бұрын

Geek

@elquednau

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@bobbyb5546

2 жыл бұрын

In the 70s in the south, the NWA was awesome.

@joebentley2803

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jefso1404let's face it we are all geeks here 😂😅

@boosh90

2 жыл бұрын

Same

An hour and 14 minutes of Jim talking territories, absolutely brilliant

@stephenzevetchin

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@charlesalford2262

Жыл бұрын

Information

@charlesalford2262

Жыл бұрын

I agree also

Please please please please do more of this kind of stuff This is why I love this channel! I know there are people that listen to Jim for his opinions on politics and modern wrestling but personally I could care less I want to hear stuff about real wrestling!

I LOVE when jim tells stories and talks about the territory days, it's so fascinating

Thanks for the mention, Jim! We would have loved to have had you guys, that's for sure! For the record, we owned part of Amarillo with Blackjack and Murdoch, too. I'd have been happy to help with that book you mentioned.

@MyNameIsUnavailable

2 жыл бұрын

I saw "Jumpin' Joe" on TV as IWCCW from Parsippany when I was a kid (I'm 47 now). I cant remember the channel, but it was an independent station in Columbus, Ohio Jumpin' Joe was my guy 💯 I read about Angie in the magazines

@MyNameIsUnavailable

2 жыл бұрын

I ALSO REMEMBER A GUY FROM IWCCW THAT WAS A PAINTER, I THINK NAMED ELLIS, a Lightweight Champion. Tony Rumble RIP, The Original Undertakers with Val Puccio, Darren Wyze, Tony Atlas, Eric Embry. STILL remember 30 years later. Just dont remember the TV affiliate

I have been watching all the Back To The Territories episodes lately and was hoping you would do something like this. Thanks. Loved it.

It’s awesome to hear the history and knowledge Jim and Brian have of the old territories. This is great stuff.

Anytime Corny talks up the territories, I get excited!! Learning how talent trades, contract notices, and blow off matches were done before the business was exposed is a great deal. Nowadays we know when all transactions take place like the MLB waiver wire.

@maxxdahl6062

2 жыл бұрын

The industry as a whole is worse off without more companies that actually knew what they're doing.

@mecha2001

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxxdahl6062 makes the narrative that "Cornette is stuck in the past" kind of amusing doesn't it?

@maxxdahl6062

2 жыл бұрын

@@mecha2001 Yep. He knows what he's talking about.

@colonelrobertsjr.7882

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxxdahl6062 Agreed!! I've said it time and time again that if AEW had a developmental brand that would have allowed the Indy wresters to clean up their bad habits (which are many), and allow the veterans like JR, Arn, and Tully to enforce realistic on-screen narrative for Tony Khan's company to be well-received, it would be a solid alternative to Sports Entertainment.

@colonelrobertsjr.7882

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxxdahl6062 Agreed!! I've said it time and time again that if AEW had a developmental brand that would have allowed the Indy wresters to clean up their bad habits (which are many), and allow the veterans like JR, Arn, and Tully to enforce realistic on-screen narrative for Tony Khan's company to be well-received, it would be a solid alternative to Sports Entertainment.

My dad grew up around the Indianapolis Fairgrounds in the 60s. Love hearing Bruiser lore!

What a brilliant listen, Love all this!

I'm glued I'm listening to stories two years before I was born and I'm glued Jim is a Master of speechcraft I tell you.

Gonna listen to this tonight while falling asleep

@rafeekhan4265

2 жыл бұрын

bruh lmao same i usually listen to his podcasts while i sleep not cuz hes boring but i just need some background noise lol

@sacredsteeler

2 жыл бұрын

@@rafeekhan4265 until you hear "THE MOTHERSHIP"!! 😆

1:14:40 of listening to great Jim Cornette talking about proper wrestling. Keep them coming Jim, Brian & Travis.

Raised on St.Louis wrestling in the 70's and 80's. We got to see EVERYONE here when Sam Muchnick was the boss. Even Bruno.

@butchfletcher5694

Жыл бұрын

Saw Bruno vs. Harley for the NWA championship during Harleys first run with the belt. Went an hour if I recall.

have to agree with everyone else and say this was a great breakdown by Jim

My Dad and my Uncles were at some of those shows in Detroit at Cobo and the Olympia.

@misterknightowlsguitarrant6984

2 жыл бұрын

Mine too. As far as my dad and uncles were concerned if it wasn’t the shiek and dick the bruiser it wasn’t wrestling. When I grew up watching wrestling on tbs, dad would always say things like the bruiser would have kicked that guys ass why you watching that pansy southern stuff lol.

This is without a doubt the most delightful edition of Official Jim Cornette ever. This was just incredible and insightful. I am chomping at the bit for the next episode. And I might be a dick but I can't help doing this - Mike Graham didn't draw a dime.

@louis3141

2 жыл бұрын

He knew how to draw a gun though lol

@vortega472

2 жыл бұрын

@@louis3141 OOOOOH! A burn on Graham. Not to be messing with Louis, he is hot tonight.

@swlabretwquint1311

2 жыл бұрын

😬

1 Hour and 15 minutes of Cornette and the history of the territories! I'm all ears! Enjoy everyone! 😁

I've been listening to Jim since the beginning, and this has got to be one of my all-time favorite episodes. Wow, brilliant stuff. Thank you Jim.

These are my favorite segments. It is fun to hear Brian & Jim destroy modern BS, but I love the history lessons.

I've waited a long time to finally hear some Indianapolis talk at some real length. Thank you, Jim!

Brilliant. I do love stories about the old days.

As a Hoosier, I loved the extended talk about the Bruiser territory. But Jim, it's Luh-go-tee

@stoney618

2 жыл бұрын

It made me laugh the way he said it lol

@donburton7766

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. A "la-gootie" sounds like something you would cough up and spit out hahahaha

@stoney618

2 жыл бұрын

@@donburton7766 lol

Thanks for discussing Bruisers WWA. I would see the weekend broadcasts as a kid growing up just north of Indy. It did age out. They did bring in Scott Steiner to be the champion near the end of the territory but they didnt have any quality young heels to get Steiner over even though Steiner was already an amazing worker. David McClain was the announcer near the end and he went on to produce GLOW.

@madbrowniac7871

2 жыл бұрын

I remember that in various Issues of "Inside Wrestling" they did a "Roll Call of Champions." Almost invariably the WWA Champ was a guy named "The Great" Greg Wojo and one of the very young guys on the card was indeed eventual Champ "Scott Rechsteiner"!🤔😂🎤🤼‍♂️B.W.

@madbrowniac7871

2 жыл бұрын

Courtesy of his all Female groups POWW and LPWA David McClain also managed to make his Companies part of the legendary yet ill starred non WWF, non Crockett "Super Clash 3" in Chicago.🤔🎤🤼‍♀️B.W.

@Clark7466

2 жыл бұрын

I grew up in Indianapolis in the 80’s. I didn’t see Bruiser’s wrestling until it’s end. By that time, the quality was rough and unfortunately not very interesting.

This was fantastic. Please make this a regular part of the show.

California native here, we agree with Jim's sentiments on the state. SoCal is a human septic tank.

I miss the territory days. I am so glad I lived in Tampa Florida and was able to see great wrestling

I hope this stays a series. This is why i listen to cornette despite not always agreeing about modern wrestling.

I wish Jim would do a back to the territories documentary on the sheiks michigan/ohio territory

10:00 Yes they DID show Savoldi's ICW show in syndication. I was living in Dallas at the time. In World Class, Gary Hart was the heel manager and Bruiser Brody was a face trying to take him down. They started showing ICW in Dallas and Gary Hart was Brody's manager there. Furthermore it was the crosseyed Brody who only barked and never spoke words. It caused quite an uproar in the Dallas wrestling community. So bad I remember Gary Hart had to go on World Class TV and address the situation. I seem to remember he claimed the stuff "they showed on TV from the East Coast" was taped a long time ago and Bruiser Brody currently was his arch nemesis.

@SavoldiWrestling

2 жыл бұрын

We were on over 200 local channels nationwide, as well as on some sports cable channels like Mr Last mentioned.

@madbrowniac7871

2 жыл бұрын

Depending on his being in The AWA, the late great Frank Goodish was King Kong Brody because they already had Bruiser as a top Star.😏🎤🤼‍♂️B.W.

What a great breakdown of the old territory days & good "What If" love it...

I love the modern reviews but nothing beats the territory discussions

32:47... I Think I Met "Billy RedCloud" in The Early 1990's Beckley WV CrossRoads Mall. (He Was Retired From Wrestling, & Was Just Shopping.)

He forgot Vancouver and Hawaii..both were pretty much dead in 85 but limping along

@ivanm.krsticevic1535

2 жыл бұрын

All Star Wrestling ⭐🤼💪 Haha

@JimmyHeartburn

2 жыл бұрын

Everybody forgets about Vancouver, for good reason. Haha That was my local wrestling growing up.

I'm here for the old school talk!!! Finally!!

We need more of this!

St.Louis Wrestling Club.Wrestling at The Chase enough said.

@sirjer73

2 жыл бұрын

WORD!!!!

Great show, have no idea what’s going on currently but could listen to this old stuff all day.

Loogootee, Indiana....sounds like..la...goat..tee ...thanks for everything you do as a child of the late 70s I grew up around Louisville loved the matches back in the day

Talking about new wrestling is damn depressing. Much rather hear Jim show us some knowledge about the territories and why wrestling actually “worked” back in the day.

I've been binging any talks about the territories from Jim. Loving this

Fantastic piece. Please do more!

“Oh no everyone hated him!” Idk why but I busted out laughing at that

I remember watching Piper and Chavo, talk about some serious heat.

This is why I love Jim.. there's always someone left to tell the story..and that is Jim...a true historian of wrestling...So glad he is still here to tell the stories .And so glad I grew up in the best era of wrestling the territory days...Keep it going Jim and Brian..

Territory days are like the wild wild west. I'd love a story line about this in current wwe. Idk how but it'd be cool if they could execute it

This is great info. Thank you!

I must admit, it is nice to hear Jim discuss the territories

In St. Louis, in the mid to late 80s, Wrestling at the Chase/WWF was televised on KPLR ch. 11, NWA was on KDNL ch. 30, and occasionally WCCW aired on KNLC ch. 24. I was a young wrestling fan and it was glorious. I watched my straight wrestling NWA on Saturday nights and get up in the morning on Sunday and watch my over the top WWF wrestling.

Under Sam Muchnick, I don't even think they used the Central States Tag Titles. I think he *might* have used the AWA Tag Title a couple of times...but I don't think the Central States tag title was ever used in St. Louis until after the Kansas City contingent took over (and they started basically running it like another city in the Kansas City territory, but with a small amount of added talent)

Jim and Brian are tiring of watching modern rasslin’, even if it is profitable for them. Personally I’d rather hear about the old territory days anyway.

I thought the thumbnail pic was Lesnar. Lol

Finally much rather hear about this stuff than AEW/WWE tv show

Not defending Bruce Hart but to be clear the WWE was paying him 100 dollars per occasional house show as an agent. The classic "starve him" strategy.

More of these. Learning the history of the business is always fun

When I went on a 3 4 5hour car trip I just clicked on one omnibus and trip goes by easy

I'm hearing names from my 60s-70s childhood in Chicago watching AWA and Bob Luce wrestling. Prince Pullins Spike Huber Art Thomas Billy Red Cloud Etc.

How the hell did I miss this?! Just made my night!

What a great upload. You can't put a value on Professor Cornette's knowledge. Love this, thank you!

David Letterman was a huge wrestling fan. He was a young man during the times Dick the Bruiser in Indy. Letterman named his house band "the worlds most dangerous band" after bruiser. It's no coincidence letterman had Lawler and Kaufman!

I grew up in Memphis and loved Memphis wrestling.

I saw bits and pieces of Indianapolis, when i would visit my grandparents, in Bloomington, IL; but not down where we lived (west of Decatur). Late in the 70s, we got their show, briefly, while they promoted a card in Springfield, then it disappeared. It showed up again around 1981. This was all after the glory days and the most entertaining guys were Spike Huber & Steve Regal, as the Young Lions, and Wilber Snyder. Never saw Bruiser on the tv, but would see guys like Zoltan the Great (Ken Jugger), Sheik Ali Hassan (Jack Krueger, later a WWF ref), Golden Boy Paul Christy, Roger Kirby and Gentleman Jerry Valiant (and Dr Jerry Graham Jr). Greg Wojokowski, The Great Wojo was there. Not the most exciting tv; but it had moments. Then, it was gone, after a ew weeks and a card, in Springfield, soon replaced by the Poffo ICW, which we had from 1981 until its end. Later, we got cable and I discovered Bruiser's tv, on one of the Peoria stations we got on the cable system, on Sundays, with David McLane as announcer. It was horrid, by that point. That was before Scott Steiner debuted and Jerry Graham Jr was running it, in Toledo. McLane soon turned up running and announcing GLOW. Snyder was the only guy who I really enjoyed, in matches, and his were rare. If it hadn't been for the Poffos, I might never have become a wrestling fan.

This is the type of stuff that got me listening a few years ago.

I liked the idea of St. Louis being the spot show territory, where you were invited to appear, week to week. No long term angles. Take it further. It could have been the highlight reel of all the NWA territories. Like test run matches that could be taken to the territories' TV. Brody vs Race. Von Erichs vs Road Warriors. Flair vs...?

When Jim talks the territories, I sit under the learning tree.

I was born in 83, and my big brother had control of the wrestling shows we watched, and it was always wwf. Now being from SC, I had no idea of Jim Crockett or the NWA. I found out my Grandpa use to stop everything he was doing on Saturdays to sit down and watch Mid South Wrestling at 1 in the afternoon I believe, so that, and listening to Jim and Bryan tell the difference it was between wwf and Crockett, with Dusty, Ric, Midnight, and the Rock n Roll, has really got me so into learning about the history of wrestling, especially here in the Carolinas. I lived just down the road from where the Greenwood SC Civic Center was, and for Jim to talk about they did shows there, and I had no idea.

I hope Mr. Cornette does this every month. Always dig hearing Corny talk about the Territories.

Actually, Fred Ottman was Dusty’s brother in law

Excellent information

My territory was Florida during the era of the Eddie Graham Sports stadium and Tampa Armory. Dusty Rhodes, early Barry Windham, Mike graham, Sweet Brown Sugar, Bugsy McGraw and of course Gordon Solie. These were the superstars of my early wrestling era. I absolutely loved this segment.

@areguapiri

Жыл бұрын

I lived in Jacksonville at that time. Great wrestling memories! Saw Dusty Rhodes and Harley Race fight at the old coliseum in 1981. Incredible!!

We need part 2 of Territory talk!!!

Bruiser was my Papaws favorite (from Indiana, so am I).

Love it. Do new ones already.

I would love an omnibus where you go even deeper, and expand even further on these questions.

Loogootee, Indiana... Literally has a CVS and a Ruler Foods there and thats nearly it.

I love these long, educational talks Jim does. Also proud to hear my Cincinnati mentioned and the Cincinnati Gardens. I saw a lot of WCW shows there as a kid.

THIS is the kind of subjects I like to hear about!

Please do more shows like this. I like when Corny loves wrestling better than listening to him hate wrestling.

Wasn't LA still operating?

This is fantastic and something I always wondered as well

Vancouver was still running with nationwide wide tv in Canada but there wasn’t money there since 1980

I went to my first card in Indianapolis in 1970, watched it since '65...Great to hear the territory spoken about this many years later!

400,000 in 1973 is 2.6 million dollars. That’s good money.

Man Jim Cornette has a great memory to remember all this.

Every time I hear "Oak City" it's like nails on a chalkboard. In any case, awesome to hear about the territory scene in Oklahoma.

@rebeccaroanoak5375

2 жыл бұрын

Born there but never heard anyone else call it that🤣

@adamkrejci5469

2 жыл бұрын

@@rebeccaroanoak5375 yeah I live in Oklahoma City. No one here says that. It's an "outsider" thing. Oh well. Not a huge deal. Just cringe.

I hope Jim Does more of these

I grew up on Championship Wrestling from Florida w/ Gordon Solie. I went to lots of house shows in the early to late 80’s. Great times.

I had no clue that many territories were in operation in 85 but when I made the "your choices were limited" comment, I was actually referring to places they could go where they could make the money they were making in Mid-South. It's been stated many times that Memphis and the Central States were not big money territories in the mid 80s. So I was thinking more AWA, Florida, WWF (which Mr. Cornette has talked about). It is very cool the direction they took my question since I love hearing his opinion on the many territories that were and weren't in operation at that time period

@fayezfawzi3255

Жыл бұрын

That was a pretty cool question! Too bad that it seems he doesn't intend to continue this in a series like he stated he would :(

I have to laugh at Jim's pronunciation of Logotee lol. It's La-Go-Tee if you ever read this Jim

@johnnylongfeather3086

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

I can listen to this all day I rather listen to this than watch or hear about AEW