I know when I go to the movies that’s not real, just a movie. However I don’t want Luke Skywalker to rip the Yoda puppet off Frank Oz’s hand and start screaming “it’s all fake it’s a movie !” That’s what today’s wrestlers are doing to wrestling.

@SAM-ru4vx

6 жыл бұрын

people are boycotting the solo movie because of the 3 previous feminist movies ruined the brand name of star wars. *fire kathleen kennedy*

@travisw3131

6 жыл бұрын

the thing with Ibushi happened almost 10 years ago.

@DarksaberForce

6 жыл бұрын

OLE SammyOLE That's really sucks because I saw Solo Sunday and its was pretty good. But people blame its box office failure on having a white male lead. Seriously!!!

@charlesbingham2084

5 жыл бұрын

Brian Rose greaT point

@michaelm5031

4 жыл бұрын

Good point Brian Dirty Harry never turned to the camera and said it's ok kids nobodies really getting hurt or killed and guess what? my names not Harry it's really Clint and none of this is real and it doesn't really matter if the likes of Kenny Omega think they are making art like Laurence Olivier in the west end of London well Olivier never stopped during ( or before ) a play to tell everyone it was fake and silly and was meant just to be a silly bit of fun and was not to be taken seriously and had respect for the audience, his business and himself

Jim's not against modern wrestling...just STUPID wrestling!

@ethanmaccullouch2776

4 жыл бұрын

Like Kenny Omega play wrestling a 9 year old girl or the young bucks superkicking a child. Come to think of it I hate the whole bullet club.

@davidholzer4155

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanmaccullouch2776 it's not the bullet club it's "the elite" version of the bullet club

@misfitdanzig8152

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanmaccullouch2776 the bucks and company sucks a bunch of NWO dx rejects.

@ethanmaccullouch2776

4 жыл бұрын

@@misfitdanzig8152 That makes no sense.

@Charziken909

4 жыл бұрын

He wants wrestlers to keep pretending like wrestling is real and kayfabe never died. He blames the newer guys for exposing wrestling when he himself does the same thing on his podcast.

I'm 45 years old & I still have idiots say 2 me.... "U know it's fake right?"

@supremeasiaticallah2303

4 жыл бұрын

@Lily is Hollow go right ahead

@chrisiverson5648

4 жыл бұрын

@@supremeasiaticallah2303: wrestling is real, people are fake.... Mr Anderson..

@renafan3333

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody takes their kid to see a Fast And The Furious movie will be "You Know This Is Fake Right?"

@chrissawyer1484

2 жыл бұрын

@@renafan3333 Hold up. You mean Vin Diesel ISN'T all about family? (I'm kidding)

@renafan3333

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrissawyer1484 I got that lol

I used to love wrestling, but I haven't watched Wrestling on tv for the last 10 years. I miss guys like Dusty Rhodes, Randy Savage and Roddy piper

@iromulus33

10 ай бұрын

Randy piper vs dusty savage

I was trying to break into the business in 2006. As I saw the way wrestling was moving I didn't feel to bad about quitting and getting my physical therapy degree instead.

@guavaboimook824

5 жыл бұрын

Good for you I wanted to do it too but I saw how bad it was and went into business and music instead

@Michael_Chandler_Keaton

4 жыл бұрын

Good for you guys! I also wanted to do it, but when I saw how bad it was I moved back in with my mom instead. I don't regret it.

@feebypeels2883

4 жыл бұрын

Good for you all! I was going to break into the business but saw how bad it was. I got addicted to crack instead!

@futuregohan4837

4 жыл бұрын

@@TokyoAfterlife Did You Fight Undertaker Let Me Guess You Lost To Him Twice LOL

@juniorhyman4054

4 жыл бұрын

Well I’m going to and don’t really care where it’s going

Didn't Seth Rollins just compare himself to sephiroth from FF7. Jim was spot on about wrestlers thinking they're video game characters.

@futuregohan4837

4 жыл бұрын

Nah Seth Rollins Compared Undertaker To Sephiroth I Can Actually Agree

@celebrategout1008

Жыл бұрын

​@@futuregohan4837 of course a toddler like you would agree, go jerk to anime or whatever you special needs kids do these days

The invisible hand grenade was the final nail in the coffin for the wrestling business

@chrisiverson5648

4 жыл бұрын

Joey Ryan🤔😡👎🏾

@futuregohan4837

4 жыл бұрын

If Undertaker Had A Real Grenade I Think Shit Would Get Scary LOL

@specialbeamvegeta4059

3 жыл бұрын

What about the Jedi choke slam 😂

Two years later and people still don't get what his problem is it's not the high spots it's the goofy shit like invisible man and Joey Ryan's shtick

If you look up Kota Ibushi on YT...first thing that pops up is the doll match that alone tells you all you need to know about the guys wrestling career

I get what Jim's saying. I grew up with Booker t, Eddie, kenta, Benoit, etc. Seeing in ring techs go to work. People that took shit serious. Which is why I would prefer when I'm a wrestler to go to a Noah or njpw or ajpw and wrestle. So I can make wrestling still somewhat valuable. We all know its choreography but make it a Jackie Chan film not a damn anime.

@Dare5358

6 жыл бұрын

NJPW is part of what Jim is trashing here.

@crucifixmegabuster95

6 жыл бұрын

DaRe JoNeS no its not actually. He's given geto credit multiple times on okada. He's shitting on Kenny not so much Njpw. Inoki may have people but not enough to effect njpw. Ddt is its own beast.

@jesuszamora6949

6 жыл бұрын

Jeff Cockmann I dunno. Impact's recovery is largely because they've trimmed the bullshit from the Russo and Hogan eras. MLW also seems to have found an audience.

@NintendoPsycho

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dare5358 New Japan is shit now.

I think what really caused this was the drop in mainstream wrestling interest after WWF bought WCW. As mainstream fans leave then a higher and higher percentage of your audience ends up being the really hardcore geeks. And eventually the product starts tweaking things to serve this audience because that's who is there. And the whole thing feeds into itself. More of the audience are geeks so the product is aimed more towards them and that drives away the mainstream fans even more so then an even higher percentage of your audience are geeks so you tweak things to please them more and more. Comic books did this in the 90s when they focused more and more on targeting collectors and eventually the market became nothing but collectors and the old days of comics being sold at drugstores and newsstands was over. In wrestling it's the same way. And wrestling will never return to the success it had before with this kind of product. But moving away from it is scary because a promoter would naturally be scared of turning off the niche audience that is literally his entire business.

@arnavbhagwat4232

4 жыл бұрын

I still think that if wrestling takes itself seriously....we can turn shit around....

@BigSeanH

2 жыл бұрын

@@arnavbhagwat4232 What about UFC?

@exiaR2x78

Жыл бұрын

@@BigSeanH cant remember what year I said fuck it to wrestling but I started watching ufc mostly instead. But a lot of the guys I liked slowed down/retired so I stopped following it.

@BigSeanH

Жыл бұрын

@@exiaR2x78 Pro wrestling just does not work with UFC/MMA being a real sport now. Hogan vs Rock was the "last" pro wrestling match, then 5 days later Randy Couture vs. Chuck Liddell 1.

@BigSeanH

Жыл бұрын

@@exiaR2x78 march 17-22, 2002

The fault has to lie on the promoters. They made to where anyone can be a pro-wrestler.

"Sodimised with a rusty fishing knife" My new favorite insult

"You know it's Japan, because everybody's Japanese." I did not expect that. Still choking 🤣🤣🤣 Edit: death threats in crayon 🤣🤣

Everything Jim said on this topic was PURE FACTUAL! pure realism ladies gents

I do think it's partly the fans fault and it starting with the smart marks in Philly

@myquest666420

4 жыл бұрын

Nell Bowie who are you talking about? I’m a big fan of Vinnie Paz, and I know he has the broad street breakdown, and I know he’s also a wrestling fan. Are those the guys you’re talking about?

@lulugabyalexa

4 жыл бұрын

"Smart marks?" That's an oxymoron.😂

@durden2480

4 жыл бұрын

They’re everywhere

@reekonenyc

3 жыл бұрын

Lol smart and Philly is the oxymoron 😆

@MrT571

3 жыл бұрын

Heroes become villains quite a bit.

Ask yourself this...Do you think AJ, Joe, Tanahashi, or Okada would ever do this stupid shit. Four modern wrestlers you can say are legit masters at their craft? The answer is FUCK NO cause they have respect for the business. Omega is a mid card hand at best. He's lucky Okada had the ability to carried his ass in every match.

@liamcourt5530

3 жыл бұрын

stfu

@abcsin6526

3 жыл бұрын

@UCtkjLBw_Wv7seoREMTDwQ8Q u stfu!!!

I'm definitely one that watches wrestling and podcasts on KZread and not on TV anymore. Never on TV.

I don’t know what Trump has to do with wrestling commentary..

@TheBriceKennedy

6 жыл бұрын

Bill Amo It's called an analogy, although if you actually listened to how he made the reference, you wouldn't even need to know that much.

@iamthewerebear4837

5 жыл бұрын

@@lindsc6293 you just proved his point. Hardcore Trump supporters are animals. You wished for him to die of a heart attack because he doesnt support the same person you do. Stay classy, asswipe.

@iamthewerebear4837

5 жыл бұрын

@Joey G Every time Russo has worked somewhere with Cornette, hes pissed him off or tried to get him fired. That's costing him money and effectively ruined the thing that Cornette loves to do. If someone fucked with your ability to put food on your table for your family on more than one occasion, wouldnt you wanna beat his ass too. That's a completely different situation. If he just hated Russo for a difference of opinion ONLY, that's a different story.

@breno7950

5 жыл бұрын

Well the idiot is in the wwe hall of fame

@thatniggaxxtweetxxtweet7523

5 жыл бұрын

You're fucking slow in the head aren't you Bill ?

I quit watching wrestling after a 10 year old won a wwe tag title

@andrewisjesus

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, you stuck with it

@yes100yessireebob6

4 жыл бұрын

Would have been okay with it, if it was done as a promotional, child disease, find a cure type deal....but a "legitimate match" in a "legitimate" event, with everybody knowing what was gonna happen....was pure hot stinkin' shit. Glad the kids had an experience like that, but I think he would've had an even better one, if they treated it like it was "real". Have the heels mess with him a bit, maybe push him down.....take it to the edge of innapropriate and then have a feel good finish. But, as usual .....WWE likes to fuck it all up.

@AlexanderMacAoidh

4 жыл бұрын

Ugh yesterday’s wrestling fans are so bitchy once they know what a keyboard is

@augustgreig9420

4 жыл бұрын

@Turd Ferguson This. They lost me when it was more about who was fucking who than who was wrestling who.

@smallworldz7241

4 жыл бұрын

Cosmic Radio shut your mouth you fucking pussy

I blame Vince Mcmahon. He outed the business, and advertised wrestling God.

Brian is dead on the money. This crowd grew up on an undead wizard shooting lightning bolts. Invisible grenades is more or less the same thing on a tighter budget.

@danialramirez5709

4 жыл бұрын

But the undertaker never broke character and told the audience it’s fake. That’s the difference. He sold the illusion. These new guys just wink at the camera and half ass it because they feel like they don’t have to sell the illusion of the product. But the illusion is the draw. It’s like a magician stopping the show and telling the audience... what i do isn’t real... here’s how i do these tricks.

@futuregohan4837

4 жыл бұрын

@@danialramirez5709 Undertaker Actually Broke The 4th Wall "How The Fuck Did Pinkie Pie Get Here" Pinkie Pie: I Do Not Recall Undertaker Breaking The 4th Wall 10 Times

@rachelwilliams6929

7 ай бұрын

@@futuregohan4837 Why Do You Capitalize Every Single Letter In Your Sentences? It Reads Like A Long Title.

I blame Flair claiming he could get a five star match with a broom and elbow dropping the ring mat.

I blame Vince. His coming on TV and saying it's a work is more remembered than anything the NWA did and it's pretty obvious due to the cosplayer emergence.

There is no reason to care about modern wrestling, you can't suspend disbelief or emotionally invest or connect with any wrestlers because the promotions beat us about the head and neck with the fact it not a real contest but a scripted choreographed piece of fluff that doesn't matter and that there are no consequences for any ones actions, if they win, lose turn heel/babyface or just go home and the play wrestlers with their phoney hand grenades, stupid death matches, super kicking kids, wrestling blow up dolls , dick spots and dance routines have taken this to such extreme levels now that they have effectively put a spike through the heart of what was left of prowrestling and are now defecating on the corpse!!

I got made fun of till 1997 trying to sell wrestling as real.

@andrewisjesus

4 жыл бұрын

Right, because everyone has always know wrestling is worked. Most the fans have always known. Catch cornette on a good day, even he admits people from the Louisville gardens thought it was worked when he was a kid

If this video title isn't the most concise, encompassing Cornette video title ever, I don't know what is.

Its Vince's fault.

@demondsanders4933

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed he opened the door to all this maddens

i can listen to mr. cornette all day long

I'm still one of those fans who try and protect wrestling, and let me tell ya its difficult.

@willpower4life

6 жыл бұрын

Supermansvengence It can't be done. I'm in the same boat but you can't save a product this shitty.

@andrewisjesus

4 жыл бұрын

Everyone has always know wrestling is worked. People just like the angles and good matches. Like a male soap opera. It has its female fans, but days of our lives has male fans. People know days of our lives is a work, but that isnt stopping the people who like it from watching it. The reason people dont watch wrestling like they use to is WWE took total control and made wrestling a goofy kids program

@jaxsquier

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think it would be difficult if you wouldn't argue with people who just don't get it. Wrestling seems to be an acquired taste anymore which leads me to this The Promoters should cater to the fans and stop doing things that won't work.

@cameron3578

4 жыл бұрын

@@jaxsquier that's exactly how you continue to isolate and shrink the fanbase. Do you know nothing or just enjoy acting stupid?

@jaxsquier

4 жыл бұрын

@@cameron3578 Really it's just an opinion, just like yours. Just trying to open up a dialogue and not be called stupid. But it's cool Do you Bruh.

As soon as he said "that's just the way it is" at the end of the interview I immediately sang the rest of the line for him and to my delight he follows up my part with "Bruce Hornsby and the range!" 😄 God I love that man!

When Vinnie Mc called it Wrestling Entertainment and WCW tried to copied their style with the dancers. I like ROH because it's fresh and I've checked out NWA and likeit as well.

So glad that Giant Baba and Antonio Inoki founded AJPW and NJPW (although Inoki is kinda stupid inviting MMA professionals to fight the NJPW roster) since some people saw that the product of WWE is kinda of cringe (Ruthless Aggression to PG-era but the current NXT,NXT UK and 2016 to 2020 WWE is good)

I stopped believing around age nine or 1992 I enjoyed wrestling more when I knew I it was fake then when I thought it was real.

If only he could stick to wrestling and not politics.

This match was recommended to me by a friend who I thought was a wrestling fan after viewing maybe a third of it I proceeded to cut all contact with him

@emilianosanabria836

3 жыл бұрын

XD

Jim Cornette's impression of the Twitter Crayon Death Threat people sounds exactly like Bruce Prichard and Jim Ross' impression of Jim. Lol

It will never go back. There would literally have to be an apocalypse and generations away from wrestling, and THEN maybe ppl could protect such things

"This fucking kota ibushi character" no way lmfaoooooooooo

Wrestling savant. Political incompetent.

No one saying Vince?? Vince killed the territories,They were so important on many aspects..Yes Mcmahon has been a genuiess on some things..But death of the territories I think was the start of the downfall..And yes,the new gen of fans have not helped

@iammayyz

4 жыл бұрын

Vince made wrestling popular too or atleast had a big hand in it

@kurvana88

4 жыл бұрын

Without a doubt he did but the impact he had on the industry and what he wanted it to be hurt it in the long run.

This clip is historical!

I still don't think Jim gets video games, like it's some niche market. It's the largest media and entertainment industry in the world and it Dwarves wrestling. It's bigger than wrestling has ever been. Wrestling, even WWE would beg for a portion of the gaming industry. GTA V alone made one Billion dollars in three days. Wrestling numbers are pitiful by comparison.

Man, l am glad that Ibushi is back doing the more serious shit!!

I hear the same comments from the young cats in regards 2 Hip Hop & Rap

@saj8

3 жыл бұрын

That is a hard truth!

Social Media killed Wrestling more than anything or anyone ever has or ever will. Change my mind.

Only Video Game BOYS And Dave Metzler like these JOKE WRESTLERS. Jim C. Is 100% Correct. I wish they wouldn't let just anyone be wrestlers these days. Like Rodney Dangerfield "NO RESPECT".

@DJ_Mooster

3 жыл бұрын

Or maybe times change and people just like different shit now too? Or maybe there are those of us that enjoy the doll shit cause we wanna have some fun every once in awhile?

Vince McMahon Is The Blame

I can't stand modern wrestling, either. They are amazing athletes, no doubt. The production value is usually incredibly good (especially in WWE). But I stand with Jim in terms of "the business" and the way it used to be. Pro-wrestling going back probably 100 years has developed a history, a tradition, a culture, a personality, a language all its own. The thing is, there's nobody left in the business who has respect for all of that. Its all about making money & being a TikTok star. Our culture now -- the whole society, not just wrestling -- is all about "reality" TV that is the furthest possible thing from reality. It's all about some idiot in their mom's basement having a KZread show or being an "influencer" on Twitter (and having absolutely zero of substance to offer the world). Pro-wrestling is now just a reflection of the rest of our culture: anybody can do it, there's no substance, and it's all about image. At least with old school wrestling -- which wasn't perfect -- it had some reality involved. It had tradition, personality, and some sense of self-respect. Even as a kid, I knew it was a work, but there was a code that you didn't talk about it. Kayfabe meant something. That was part of the business as much as dropkicks & bodyslams. Without a sense of self-respect, it's just a shitty soap opera.

@ASCUMBAGWh0re

Жыл бұрын

Dude I'm not reading all that bs

I know Brian doesnt read th comments here but Jim should watch the New Japan Cow Palace Show and the All in Show I wanna listen to an entertaining review with meltdowns so bad 😅 Btw if anybody doesnt know Ibushi, he truly is one of the best around, watch his match with Nakamura from the Tokyo Dome or his Cruiserweight Classic run

@joepesci3.093

6 жыл бұрын

antimaster100 you're a mark no one knows who the fuck kota kibushi is

@LyingSecret

6 жыл бұрын

I know who Kota Ibushi is, and I don't even watch any Japanese wrestling. He appeared in the WWE Crusierweight Classic, or for a smaller audience I've seen him make a few ROH appearances.

@brian9670

6 жыл бұрын

You have no idea what a mark even is. Stop using terms you don't understand. I will say it again, if you watch wrestling...YOU ARE A MARK.

@mrbadguysan

6 жыл бұрын

Brian W mark =\= fan.

@timf7413

6 жыл бұрын

There's part of me that wants to hear Cornette review a Chikara match every week.

8:27 - god I love how articulate Jim is when angry.

I watched wrestling from the mid 90s through the attitude era, stopped for a while, and was drawn back in by the CHIKARA podcast in the late 2000s. They did a whole lot of weird and wacky or goofy stuff, but the bits I watched were the high spots. Then I suddenly realised how silly the rest of it was when you see things like Player Uno get “Paused” Etc. It’s fine as a one off, but when it started being a weekly thing, it gets boring REAL quick. I then went the complete other way and started watching old World of Sport Wrestling (im from the UK, so I remember it being on tv when I was a kid on sundays) and from there transitioned back into serious wrestling. Having enjoyed both the serious side and the gimmicky silly side of wrestling, I have to say I prefer the serious side MUCH more.

I can tolerate comedy wrestling Even comedy wrestling that takes the piss out of wrestling. I don’t like that particular brand, and I think it negatively impacts my ability to sell tickets to wrestling shows, but I tolerate it. But I draw the line at comedy wrestling that can seriously hurt you I should never see a spike bump in a comedy match.

Im trying to get into wrestling I’m like 6’2-6’3 240 and have background in track and kickboxing but idk I ain’t gonna be a looked at as credible any time soon I’m just gonna get roped in with guys like Kenny and the young buck cause I’m 20I like to think I could be a good technician like Jericho or Eddie but idk my I shouldn’t they’re aren’t as many good opportunities As they’re were in the 80’s

Can't put the toothpaste back into the tube. 'Nuff said.

On some level I'd say it's a bit of everyone's fault. With the case of the blow-up doll and 9-yr old girl, do you blame the wrestler for having and suggesting the idea, or do you blame the promoter for not shooting the idea down and instead booking it into their show in front of a paying audience? In general, do you blame these wrestlers who do these stupid things, the promoters who sell these stupid things, or the fans for buying these stupid things? Do you blame ECW for introducing a lot of people to deathmatches and inspiring new promotions to feature insanely bloody wrestling, or do you blame nostalgia blinded fans who believe the Attitude Era was the best era ever and needs to be brought back when they remember none of the absolute shit that was booked during the period? Do you blame WWE for booking absolute shit over the years and driving viewers either away from wrestling in general or to these smaller niche promotions with deathmatches and/or comedy that somehow create vocal fanbases devoted to whatever they promote? Do you blame Dave for having his head in Japan and judging all matches everywhere by the same standard even though it's completely different thus showing mainstream American wrestling to be inferior by his standards and further driving people towards the fringes, or do you blame the segment of his fans who believe the puro style is the best style and it's the big thing that'll take American wrestling out of its current stagnation and return it to mainstream success? Honestly there are so many different little reasons from all over contributing to the decline of wrestling in America as well as the introduction of some downright crazy things that keep potential viewers away, I can't list them all.

If Vince Russo had thought of this crap WWE would have been doing it in 1990!

I’ve seen the full match that he is talking about. I must say that I agree with Jim that the style is “garbage” in the sense of the danger to the performer. The way I interpreted though is like a one-man broadway show. It showed his skill and toughness to be able to essentially repeatedly Canadian destroy himself, amongst the other moves. Again, I almost feel like his willingness to hurt himself was exploited, it was dumb conceptually, but it did show that he has a considerable amount of in ring skill and toughness. I wouldn’t be surprised if the blowup doll thing started as a rib to some wrestler, with the promoters saying “here’s a doll. Try to get over now, chump” then they did and it became a challenge for others

@priimovalentiino1640

4 жыл бұрын

Watch highlights of him vs naito.. I wanna know what Jim thinks of these constant neck bumps... that used to be a botched move... now they're trying to kill themselves (how it looks)

“Whateverthefuck”

This might sound crazy, but I'd pay money to hear Jim curse me out. I've been cursed out before but never as eloquently as Jim's cusses.

Wonder what he thinks about Wyatt’s Fun house?

I watched a WWE video from like 2013 and it was Big E lifting at Muscle Beach. The big thing I noticed was when he was lifting, there was a crowd watching him. Why you may ask? Because the guy is a sight to see, he looks like he could bend you in half and not break a sweat. Now imagine if it was someone like Balor or Omega, nobody would even bat an eye to pay attention. What I’m saying is, when someone is flipping through the channels what do you think will get their attention? Two 5’10 190 lb Indy midgets doing kicks and flips, or watching something like Lashley vs McIntyre? Probably the one with the superhuman looking guys.

Jim you are spot on. I’m and old wrestling fan and am disgusted by this so called wrestling. I can’t watch it. It’s disrespectful

Between 8:27 and 8:37 is gold

The goofy shit started with Vince McMahon, it just snowballed from there.

How do the promoters know if the invisible man has shown up ? What if he's ill ?

Its not one persons fault, theres enough blame to go around

I am now just watching this video and I am ashamed I ever watched or loved to watch wrestling

Bumps are real ,story line is predetermined its a story flying off top rope hurts. Its still fun to watch. But the crap wwe puts out is crap. Need more wrestling.

@iammayyz

4 жыл бұрын

Need more wrestling? it's already too much wrestling we need less wrestling and more BETTER storylines

I'm sorry but its a little hypocritical of JC to keep ranting about Omega, Joey Ryan and Ibushi but some how the Undertaker and all the stupid shit he's done throughout the years is never mentioned. No wrestler has destroyed kayfabe more than the Undertaker has.

@TheBriceKennedy

6 жыл бұрын

Excellent point... and you're right. Taker is NEVER mentioned in this conversation.

@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist

6 жыл бұрын

+Nicholas Panzarino I mean The Undertaker is my all time favorite wrestler, but it can't be denied that his character did help kill kayfabe in the 90s. It's pretty hard to suspend your disbelief for an undead wizard who wrestles. Anyone who still believed wrestling was legit certainly stopped believing in it as soon as they saw the deadman. If they didn't then they had some serious mental issues. I'm sure many old timer wrestlers hated The Undertaker back then, they probably thought he was killing the business. The same way Jim is hating on Omega and Ibushi right now. Yet many people, including myself, consider Undertaker to be one of if not the greatest of all time.

@willpower4life

6 жыл бұрын

As much as I hate to admit this, you're right.

@mrbadguysan

6 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Panzarino so help me with this logic. How does The Undertaker existing make blowup dolls, invisible shit, and slow-mo spots tolerable? "The WWE was stupid, we'll be stupider!"

@nicholaspanzarino6690

6 жыл бұрын

It makes it tolerable because like Cornette said, these guys grew up watching the Undertaker. This is all they know and their mind set is that if one of the biggest stars in the sport can get away with doing stupid shit than they should be able to get away with it too. And is wrestling a blow up doll really more stupid than the Undertaker coming back from the dead? My main point is that JC does not criticize the Undertaker but he can't stop criticizing the new guys. And thats because JC and Taker are buddies. He worked with Taker in WCW when he was Mean Mark, and Taker did a few appearances for SMW. That's the hypocrasy of JC and that's the real reason he will never say anything negative about Taker. And my point is that if your not going to criticize the guy that did more to kill kayfabe than anyone else in the business, than you shouldn't criticize the new guys. And for the record I the JC is awesome, I just don't agree with him on this point.

Your right Jim , why even call it wrestling this shit sucks, I miss rasas sling!

"I used to say horrible things about The [female Tatanka], but I didn't mean them; I was working!"

He knows wrestling for sure, politics however are a different story.

@2011nphelps

3 жыл бұрын

Why? Trump is a pile of shit and so is anyone who defended him. Hold the L

@adamirishconundrum851

2 жыл бұрын

He's a fucking clown about politics. Trump= booming economy and the kooks like Putin and Kim Jung un in check, The socialists= economy shot to hell and the lunies doing damn well what they want with no chance of resistance. Trump is an asshole but the proof is crystal clear.

Even if you thought it by was fake you knew the moves they did could end their career or life .

Brian On The Come-Up ‘ Salute

Reminds of Vince McMahon vs God

@futuregohan4837

4 жыл бұрын

God Was Secretly Undertaker In Disguise

@aaronperezsomarriba8504

3 жыл бұрын

That was amazing ngl

He talks about baba but what does inoki think about his own company

I like Jim but he should let it go. As an old school fan who loves Memphis, Crockett and much of the 80’s/90’s/2000 WWF, we need to learn this isn’t the wrestling we grew up on. He lost this battle in Smoky Mountain and in ROH. If it were up to him, Kota and Kenny would be making cheesy unintentional homoerotic music videos, Mike Mondo, The Headbangers and Charlie Haas would be main eventing and every match would be booked like 1976 Memphis. Its a new generation with changed wrestling tastes. I’ve accepted this era isn’t for me. Not every fan will stay like they did in 1985 or 1998.

@jimgrand8514

6 жыл бұрын

85futureshock I think he does not want to go back to the level of cheesiness of back then but just wants it to progress but still taken seriously. Kinda like most wanted a new star wars movie but not with the same cheesy dialogue that was in the original but the same spirit.

@jimgrand8514

6 жыл бұрын

aiooty19 going back is not the answer either and some people would think that is worse then the current product. balance is what it needed take the lessons of the past and apply them to the current model. sad thing is no one has the money to make a promotion that would do this. lots of the guy's of today are amazing talents.

@tafua_a

6 жыл бұрын

jim grand To be fair, in OVW there was none of the SMW cheesiness

@jesuszamora6949

6 жыл бұрын

85futureshock I gotta agree. Jim's too worked up over something he can't change. The territories are dead, they're not coming back. Nevermind Vince, his wrestling couldn't survive extended cable, and especially not the Internet. Instead of cursing everything in the last 30 years, he should try to highlight good promotions and performers... Though I suppose that would require he open his mind even the slightest bit.

@sergiobomr216

6 жыл бұрын

Your missing the point he hates that this new wrestlers are doing stupid shit like the doll thing and that is basically spitting in the face of the legends who help built it its fucking embarrassing

I saw that video. I had to shake my head on that shit

When I was a a scruffy young fan, I had a terrifyingly sloppy but accurate DDT for anyone that dared to call Andre or Flair a phony!! I was also the most awful little bastard you ever met, hee. Boil em in oil!!!!!! I'm listening Jim!!!! Oh!! What if a dude got paralyzed wrestling the doll!!!!! ????? !!!!! What a horrible lesson for us all!! Ha

8:22

The corn knows

I've been waiting on his to respond to Omega

I can see only one valid reason that any wrestler or,as in my case, stage fighter would fight with a rag doll dummy...... training. Now go with me on this,..... if you can sell taking a DDT or a crossbody from a rag doll then you can sell when an opponent does it. Or if you can punch/kick/chop/etc a dummy and lay the hit on but not through the dummy than you can do it to an opponent. So yes in training I can see the value of fighting a dummy or "the invisible man" to train selling and percussion but NOT in an actual live match .

@Wurzelknecht

4 жыл бұрын

Wrestling has more genres than just super-realistic seriousness. DDT has always been an over the top comedy promotion that's very niche and very indie. It's targeted towards people who know full well that it's fake and enjoy the promotion for what it is: silly fun. Complaining about it as ruining the business is like saying Monty Python movies ruin the film industry because they don't take themselves as seriously as the Shawshank Redemption. Cornette has always failed to see that a lot of what makes watching wrestling fun is...well actual FUN! He claims that "funny doesn't sell" when history has proven him wrong many times in the past. And holding stuff like the blow-up doll or the 9year old against one in a million talents like Kota Ibushi and Kenny Omega, despite the fact that these were things they did so long ago and in such a niche promotion (not to mention that one of those was a charity event iirc) that has nothing to do with New Japan, is quite frankly ridiculous. Cornette is an old, bitter carnie who can't accept the fact that he's the only one who thinks the fucking Midnight Express was the greatest thing in wrestling history.

14:00 to 15:20 is epic

YA KU ZA! YA KU ZA!

Creative for big businesses: hire bad talent then proceed to give them bad lines and a bad angle and trash their character.....

Its basic. Jim cornette wants wrestling to be a worked shoot fight with rules. He hates wrestling that is presented as a soap opera entertainment show, either geared towards grown men or kids. He wants UFC, but worked matches. Of course, if we go back and watch mid south, and alot of NWA shows from back in his day, there is alot of goofy and fake bullshit on their shows too. Jim has rose colored glasses on when talking about 70s and 80s wrestling. My understanding is that everyone has always known wrestling was fake, but people liked watching it for the angles, and people who could work believable matches

@Wurzelknecht

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Jim tries to pretend that there was no silly bullshit in his era when he was part of stupid shit like scaffold matches that exposed the business by nature. Or you know...everytime he took a freakin' bump and did so looking like one of the Looney Toons.

@celebrategout1008

Жыл бұрын

your baby comedy wrestling is garbage, keep coping kiddo

Marks and Vince

@iammayyz

4 жыл бұрын

Naah simple answer is - better things have come along now plus there is just too much wrestling now, wrestling shouldn't be wrestling and people nowadays mostly don't get it.

To be honest, I don't think people knowing that pro wrestling isn't a shoot affects business that badly - come on, somebody in the '80s must have figured out that Jim burning Ronnie Garvin wouldn't happen in any unplanned sporting environment. What millions of people want is a quality show that allows them to suspend disbelief and doesn't insult their intelligence.

@Red_Neck

3 жыл бұрын

1938 That is the year when people found out that pro Wrestling is a work

Lucha underground is the best wrestling out there today

@TALISCA666

4 жыл бұрын

Today is nothing, and that is a serie not a pure wrestling show

@Charsi_Escobar

4 жыл бұрын

LMAOOOO LU is hot dogshit.

10:50

Ground zero for twinkle toes

Is this a rerun?

Stick to wrestling and leave politics to adults...

Even though I’m a big fan of Jim and not a fan of modern wrestling, it’s the way it is because it’s no secret that wrestling is a work now. It’s just a different era. The business is exposed. We can’t put the genie back in the bottle. Wrestling is dead, or if not dead, it’s on life support. I’d like to see old school wrasslin’, but it just doesn’t have a market anymore. Well, not a big enough market to sustain it.

@Michael_Chandler_Keaton

4 жыл бұрын

The "real pro wrestling is dead" argument doesn't work. All nations have the internet, everybody knows it isn't real, but it is still taken seriously and respected in several countries. The problem is the idiots that make a point to expose the business ten times a day, and crap WWE where storylines are abandoned for no reason and never mentioned again, and every wrestler has done 10 turns by the time they're in the business 3 years and nothing has any meaning and fans have no reason to become invested.

@Wurzelknecht

4 жыл бұрын

The wrestling is dead argument is such bullshit. It's more alive than ever. So much growth, so many companies to choose from. So many different styles. You want badass puro action you watch NJPW. You want sports entertainment you watch WWE or AEW. You want comedy, you watch DDT or CHIKARA. You want spotfests, you watch PWG. It's just Jim's outdated idea of NWA rasslin' that's dead, because guess what: Even back in the 80s it was very niche and only a small percentage of wrestling fans wanted to watch it. That's why it died and was gobbled up by WCW and WWF.

Taker just gets a pass. Wish I was that cool.

As someone who was born in 87, and was a fan from the age of 5 watching Bret Hart, Tatanka, Undertaker, etc, I have never felt comfortable with the word fake. I'm not even part of the true old school, and even from my generation, knowing it was a work, the F word was a huge flag as a fan. I ultimately went on to joining a training school in Britain as a wrestler for 6 years at the age of 18, just did it for a fun hobby, as I knew I'd never have the commitment or work ethic to make it my career... especially in Britain. I actually became technically semi pro, I was paid to do shows, though never for big crowds. However even as someone who wasn't planning it as a major part of my life... it baffles me how even modern professionals so loosely throw around the F word... even when explaining it as a work to people interested nowadays, I still squirm at the F word... It saddens me that I look back at the pros from my generation as a level I could never even sniff at... they inspire me even when watching them all these years later... but I look at pros now with my faded amature skills, and feel like I still get it more than they fucking do...

I'm kinda embarrassed about Biden he is not much better

WWE started the invisible Man, thing in 2006, where Vince pretended to fight God on ppv, I think it was Shane and Vince vs Shawn and "God", smh. The intergender matches started with WWE again when Chyna won the Intercontinental belt and was Co champs with Jericho against Jeff Jarrett. Braun Strowman wrestling with a kid was WWE again, when at WrestleMania, wtf. There's a common denominator, even Vince said he didn't want wrestling he wanted an action soap opera. It's Vince's fault, once he's gone hopefully it can be rejuvenated

@arnavbhagwat4232

4 жыл бұрын

The God match was bullshit. ..But Chyna looked like she could beat a guy up...not like some 100 pound Japanese schoolgirl fighting a 250 pound hunks

@smallworldz7241

4 жыл бұрын

Arnav Bhagwat exactly China was the exception that’s the only reason it worked

@charlesbukowski9836

2 жыл бұрын

When ONE entity runs the entire show , a mistake is compounded by 10... Just look at Mumbles in the White House...