Vince McMahon, at the birth of his son: THAT’S GOTTA BE SHANE, THAT’S GOTTA BE SHANE!!

@bowserh2012345

4 жыл бұрын

And when the doctor asked who the father was, Vince said: IT WAS ME DOCTOR! IT WAS ME ALL ALOOONNGG!!

@dankahaner

4 жыл бұрын

And then Austin walks in “I’ll take it from here nurse!”

@LeanderJacksonSportsNetwork

4 жыл бұрын

Best comments on here 😂😂😂

@TheBlacGhost2093

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@KGBBooks

4 жыл бұрын

PotatoQuality Aw son of a bitch!

Only Glen Jacobs could pull Kane off. The same way Mark Calloway pulled off The Undertaker.

@sammmm87

4 жыл бұрын

Who are those guys? and why are they giving handjobs to my favorite wrestlers?

@Yoni123

4 жыл бұрын

Genius

@patrickboian8545

4 жыл бұрын

sammmm87 brilliant

@jasonswift1608

3 жыл бұрын

@@sammmm87 a fuck I wanted to say that fuck ye lol

@mannhouse8014

3 жыл бұрын

@@sammmm87 LMAO

The thing I appreciate about Cornette is he gives credit where it’s due. As much as Shawn Michaels pissed him off with the back stage BS, he always gives him credit as a great performer.

@y0shiklassik

3 жыл бұрын

which is bullshit anyway, little bitch is overrated

@ChaddeusPrime

3 жыл бұрын

@@y0shiklassik obvious bait is obvious

@y0shiklassik

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChaddeusPrime yeah michaels is so great because he oversold and screamed like a bitchy chippendale dancer in every match, still dont see why everyone pretends to like his c- bullshit especially when he was a fucking dickhead all the time

@ChaddeusPrime

3 жыл бұрын

I dont think very many people agree with you on that. Michaels is for sure a legend.

@y0shiklassik

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChaddeusPrime well im tired of being right all the time

This is Booking 101. Shawn walks out with the win with Bret waiting on him for a feud. A new huge heel debuts with a lot of heat on him. Undertaker loses but doesn’t lose any credibility because of the way he lost & has a new huge feud to get into. This is a master class in how to book

@dirkturrell6460

4 жыл бұрын

These were the golden days of wrestling!

@zamiel3

3 жыл бұрын

@@dirkturrell6460 Then Vince didn't want to deal with the taxes, rules, and regulations of being a "sport". He decided to admit to the world it was 100% pretend, all made up. That was the death of professional wrestling.

@heshamhany8470

3 жыл бұрын

@@zamiel3 that wasn't "then" people had known it was fake for years before.

@zamiel3

3 жыл бұрын

@@heshamhany8470Not even what I am talking about.

@MrBeckenhimself

3 жыл бұрын

@@zamiel3 lol I knew pro wrestling was fake when I first started watching as a six year old kid. That was thirty two years ago. Nobody with half a brain working believed it was real.

Kinda like how Edge and Christian just stopped being brothers at some point, and no explanation was ever given lmao

@glennross85

4 жыл бұрын

They did kind of because I remember JR saying something like "We found out they are not actual brothers, they just grew up together and see each other as brothers" when I was binge watching old raw on the network a few years back.

@TariqBusy

4 жыл бұрын

Random: I was working a bar (security) in Beverly Hills, the weekend before whatever Wrestlemania was in LA, circa '03...Christian is standing around the bar like a lost puppy. There wasn't a broad within 6 feet of him. The other wrestlers were grouped up away from him like he was Jimmy Carter.

@Kelly-hn7hu

4 жыл бұрын

Tariq Busy lmfaooo💀💀💀💀💀

@davidfrederick6003

4 жыл бұрын

If anyone remembers Edge & Christian, Gangrel his Brood, were originally apart of Undertaker's Ministry of Darkness

@zekun4741

4 жыл бұрын

@Euroheat0022 true but them being brothers suited that era well, you had the dudleys, brothers, the hardys, also brothers, and the brothers of destruction

The early version of Kane was the perfect character -- it didn't rely on mic skills, just sheer brutality. The only difference in heel Kane and babyface Kane was who he was destroying. The long running Undertaker / Kane story was always one of, if not the best one in the WWF, IMO.

It's incredible when you think back about how special WWF in 1997 was. The Austin-Bret Hart rivalry, two of the greatest matches in history, the WrestleMania double turn,, the Montreal situation, the debut of Kane, and the start of the Attitude Era, among many other things. It was such an awesome time.

The moment I saw Kane in 1997 I immediately became his biggest fan. At that point you didn't have someone that looked or acted like him and how he was conveyed as this unstoppable force of chaos being happily directed to lay waste to everything until Undertaker stopped ducking him, it was fresh. One of the more genius booking ideas though was how Kane obliterated the shit out of Mankind who at that point was Undertaker's greatest rival. It took Undertaker pay-per-view after pay-per-view to get his revenge finally, and here you have Kane coming in like a whirlwind of destruction that just dispatched of him in ten minutes easily.

@wezzab3899

4 жыл бұрын

Good comment mate

@dirtmcgirt8269

4 жыл бұрын

@@wezzab3899 Damn good.

@clarencegutsy7309

4 жыл бұрын

@@spongebobsquarepants3990 xd so quirky xd

@Spvceman333

4 жыл бұрын

spongebob squarepants alright spongebob

@darnelldarden9429

4 жыл бұрын

Everything said here was spot on.,How easily Kane beat Mankind is often overlooked

"Shawn Michaels wins. So we get out of that fn deal. Shawn Michaels always gotta win. Or else wise he wount show up" - Jim Cornette

@alexdelarge703

4 жыл бұрын

One of my favorite Corny quotes. Up there with, “I wouldn’t wanna name any names like SHAWN MICHAELS for instance.”

@flockawaka1017

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexdelarge703 fuckin classic

@antonmasters8626

3 жыл бұрын

I like how it was okay for Shawn to threaten to no show and get away with anything he wanted, where when Warrior threatened to no show he got his ass fired Granted even though he was a prick and a crybaby back then at least Shawn was entertaining and could actually work and wrestle. Just funny to think

@noahintahlequahsmithh5303

2 жыл бұрын

@@antonmasters8626 I think it is because Vince was so desperate at this time to make everyone happy. And so he let Shawn get away with a lot. So he wouldn't show up on WCW.

Cornette's right. I loved Kane when he was introduced. Then after several modifications to the gimmick and the occasional drop to the midcard, I had a hard time buying it when they wanted to make him a badass again.

@workingclassrunner

Жыл бұрын

I think the Katie Vick thing was where it really jumped the shark

I can listen to Jim's wrestling Stories all day.

@SteveHolsten

4 жыл бұрын

I can too, but not 5 seconds of his politics!

@slashpiff8946

4 жыл бұрын

Real shit

@SteveHolsten

4 жыл бұрын

@Chris Terry Ain't it Wonderful? Trump is our Most Greatest, Most Wonderful President we've EVER had. Learn it, Live it & always Love it You FuckTard!

@tomjerry5475

2 жыл бұрын

Me too, Jim is awesome

Jim’s Kane promo idea... the breathing behind the mask.... genius.....

@ST1TCH916

3 ай бұрын

I loved everything about it besides the comical rotten meat stuff, but showing the room and all with the breathing would be peak

"Give him something he's not afraid to go out in public in." LMAO I ran into Glen Jacobs in Walmart once and this made me laugh.

@GranthamStreet

3 жыл бұрын

Was he dressed like that? ^

@papachee323

3 жыл бұрын

@@GranthamStreet Looked just like Corporate Kane but he was smiling and really nice. 2 am and in a suit.

@randomlyentertaining8287

2 жыл бұрын

@@papachee323 That's why I half wish I lived near a big arena. So when I do my WalMart shopping at 2-3 in the morning (whenever they return to 24 hour) I might just run into a superstar. And you know Glenn went there at 2 in the morning in the hopes that of the few people in the store at that time of day, no one would recognize him XD

@papachee323

2 жыл бұрын

@@randomlyentertaining8287 It's worth the risk. Just for that chance to see Mankind in electronics.

"He was doing jobs for us and happy to do it." If that's true, it was the only time Michaels would be happy to do jobs for at least the next twenty years.

@nuthinnew3881

4 жыл бұрын

Paid his dues

@michaelkaminski8339

4 жыл бұрын

I doubt you were alive then, but it was 1984. Michaels and Jannetty didn't even make it to Mid-South and World Class with a small push as the Rockers until 1985

@SuperDevolution

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelkaminski8339 It was a joke/jab at Michaels for refusing to put anyone over as much as he did. I was aware that Shawn spent time in the AWA, various NWA territories, and Mid-South before the WWF.

@johnmoruzzi1908

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelkaminski8339 x

@kwrbt2979

3 жыл бұрын

Except for certain kinda jobs... Heyooo

Kane had easily the best Debut in wrestling!

@kieron20069

4 жыл бұрын

Lets not forget the huge pop that Chris Jericho got in August 1999

@thomaskrug9277

4 жыл бұрын

RVD had a great debut except for the piped in crowd noise. The whole crowd is doing the Van Dam taunt, yet all you heard on tv was a deafening Austin chant.

@privateeyes6268

4 жыл бұрын

DDP had the best WWE debut, listen to the reveal pop!

@justinobuscape7031

3 жыл бұрын

The Giant in WCW. They got him to a) Win the World Heavyweight Championship at his first match and b) against Hulk " the last time I lost clean was a decade ago, brother!" Hogan. Try to beat that.

@TheTenCentStory

3 жыл бұрын

@@justinobuscape7031 Yeah, but that wrestling story sucks compared to Kane.

"When I was seven years old and they changed fucking characters in Bewitched, I fucking got hot." LMFNAO!!!!!!!!

Kane was my shit until they took his mask off. That killed everything about him. I even looked past the whole he can't talk then he all of a sudden speaks great English.

@knyte6426

4 жыл бұрын

Once you humanize a monster, it's almost impossible to make them into a monster again. Yet, Vince does it constantly. Look at poor Big Show. Once they changed him from Vince's hired monster into a face, they could never get him back to that same level again.

@totallybored5526

4 жыл бұрын

He was your shit? Wtf

@xrretrieve4892

3 жыл бұрын

@@totallybored5526 lol he shat out kane

@maxpower7113

3 жыл бұрын

@Alejandro Franchini Kane, Booker T, Goldberg, 10 others I could name were all victims of HHH's early to mid 2000s run

@Mondragora99

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, the unmasked thing was good, he just change to be a demon to a psychopath monster. He was doing spinaroonies before that thing.

The build up and the reveal of Kane was simply perfection. I liked how we didn’t know a lot about Kane before Bad Blood. We just knew that Undertaker thought he died in a fire. We didn’t know if he was evil or good. The actual reveal and debut couldn’t have been better. The way Glenn walked with the outfit and the mask reminded me of Jason Vorhees. It’s super hard to show emotion with a mask but Glenn did a great job. His eyes looked like he didn’t have a soul. His body language gave off that he was motivated by evil and rage to hurt people. His intense hatred for The Undertaker felt so real. Also Vince’s selling was just simply awesome. I was six years old watching the show live on PPV and I was so shocked and sad for what he did to Undertaker and I had trouble sleeping that night lol. I legitimately thought Kane was going to get me.

@tomnagy3010

4 жыл бұрын

Well we kinda knew he was bad simply by his association with Paul Bearer.

@ladistar

4 жыл бұрын

lol did you actually think it was real

@jwhittle91

4 жыл бұрын

ladistar lol I was six years old so yes I thought it was real. They also did a great job at making it look super real. It took me until I was about 9 to realize wrestling is scripted.

They really started misusing Kane after his first feuds against the Undertaker came to an end. X-Pac beat him at a PPV by throwing the steps onto him and pinning him then running off, DX would constantly intervene in his matches and make him lose, get counted out or his opponent was DQ'd, so he stopped winning matches and beating people and it slowly made him look less strong. Still remained a beast though. His character really became pussified when he was feuding with Shane McMahon. Shane is great, but they had two PPV matches when Shane shouldn't have been able to even last 5 minutes with Kane before getting paralysed. Kane was also incredibly over when he returned in 2001, and he should have been world champion as a face and regularly in main event matches before being unmasked and becoming a psychotic heel. His rape feuds with Lita, Matt Hardy and Snitsky was the worst.

@kwrbt2979

3 жыл бұрын

That Shane and Vince became involved in the wrestling at all made me lose interest and especially when they put themselves into main events and real programs with legit wrestlers. It discredited the whole thing. I don't care how big Vince's muscles were, he's just a scrawny old businessman that should be no less than squashed by any talent on the roster, especially by the champions!

@thescourge6989

2 жыл бұрын

He never should've been unmasked.

@bash8387

2 жыл бұрын

@@thescourge6989 I loved when he got unmasked to me he become more then a monster but as time went he became more human

Paul Bearers promos during the beginning of this feud were awesome

Always thought The Undertaker's first name was "The"

@additionad

4 жыл бұрын

It is “Mr” to you.

@rdtbrik1161

4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that be his middle name? His original appearance was Kane the Undertaker

@Ryanthesavagesmith

4 жыл бұрын

kooo

@GinEric84

4 жыл бұрын

That's correct

@oiradzenitram

4 жыл бұрын

It wasn’t? My childhood is a lie

Still waiting on Corny Vs Russo Hell in the Cell.

@chriscothron3606

4 жыл бұрын

I think an I Quit or Last Man Standing Match would be more fitting.

@kyjuggaloshow502

4 жыл бұрын

Nah cornette vs Russo on a ufc ppv

@rdtbrik1161

4 жыл бұрын

With no referee stoppage

@PHazeBeats1

4 жыл бұрын

Gotta be that on the pole gimmick also bro.. hell in the cell on a pole match bro. Or no deal bro. No deal

@kyjuggaloshow502

4 жыл бұрын

Nah triple threat hell in a cell cornette vs Russo vs dunn

More proof that 1997 was the best year in wrestling history.

@fmthebaron

4 жыл бұрын

97 and 03 were my favorite years.

@mrsain19

3 жыл бұрын

97 or 98. where were some very good years in the 80s too that could hold a candle up. 86-90.

@lautheimpaler4686

3 жыл бұрын

2006.

@sheepdavis

3 жыл бұрын

No Trish, no Lita, no Too Cool, no hardcore championship, no corporate Rock, no Ministry of Darkness

@JACKYBWOII

3 жыл бұрын

@@sheepdavis lol really... too cool xD. Over like rover yeah but come on xD

Jim taking everyone to school with his Booking 101 class. People can criticize him all they want and call him out of touch, (Orange Cassidy and Buck fans) but the guy knows his shit. Far too often, people working in the industry get focused on the over the top aspects of wrestling. They forget the basics of how to present the product. Those issues and a lack of creating new stand out stars is why the business is struggling before the beer flu/Great Depression Part 2.

@LordKnt

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Only people who want wrestling to be fun, goofy bullshit criticize Jim on his wrestling opinions. I have no problems with people disagreeing with the rest, as I also find myself disagreeing with him on some occasions, but using the same old "he's out of touch" bullshit is garbage

@fabianmarshall4120

2 жыл бұрын

He’s not out of touch he just won’t budge on his ideas. He knows what works but won’t give credit to things that work he doesn’t like

@tammyforbes2101

2 жыл бұрын

What is beer flu you mean bird flu! Lmao

@JeremiahEcks777

2 жыл бұрын

@@fabianmarshall4120 Exactly. And this is Corny's strength and weakness. Corny has so much right but he's not right on *everything*, and tastes change. He still sees wrestling as it's the 70's or 80's but the audience is totally culturally different. Not right or wrong, just different. But there are also fundamentals that Corny has - absolute fundamentals that are just *right*. Take for him here talking about unmasked Kane. He's right, unmasking Kane neutered him because it wasn't what we were sold. I would always listen to him but he's not going to 'get' Orange Cassidy because it's not something someone from the 80's would 'get'. And that's fine, Cassidy would have *sucked* in the 80's / 90's. Now humour is post-modern / self-referential and it just *works*. That Cassidy can wrestle makes it work. If Cassidy was an unathletic goofball who can't back up the gimmick with ring skills, it would fail. But he can. And Corny loyalists can harp on all day about why I'm wrong. That's cool, that's an opinion. But there's a reason why Smokey Mountain went out of business too, and why many of Corny's hand picked favourites like Well Dunn or the NWA invasion in 1997 didn't get over with the WWF fans. Corny IS a wrestling genius and a plethora of good ideas but he's not *perfect*, and that's where people get him wrong. Is he out of touch? No! His fundamentals are transcendent of time. But is he out of touch in that he won't accept things he personally doesn't get? Sure. I'll guarantee you though, that's an age thing. The older we get, the more easier it is to get that way. I mean, look at Vince McMahon!

@Superior_uno

2 жыл бұрын

When he says he doesn’t like something he’ll tell you how he would do it. His idea is usually better.

lol all this logic and planning back then. Now Hell in a cell is just a generic yearly PPV that's just done for no reason no matter what feuds are going on.

@darnelldarden9429

4 жыл бұрын

Trash

@Jukeboksi

4 жыл бұрын

Just like TLC, Money In The Bank, Extreme Rules and similar shit.

It's a shame how Kane's character diminished throughout the years. I really don't know how a new Blue Kane is going to work

@MCMcThriller

4 жыл бұрын

A blue Kane?

@KETO.n.WRESTLING

4 жыл бұрын

@@MCMcThriller Yes there's rumors of Big Cass returning as Blue Kane

@eriks1971

4 жыл бұрын

Managed by Blue Meanie?

@kamfisher1714

4 жыл бұрын

He never wanted to be champion shut up

@rebeccatengongomaia2787

4 жыл бұрын

I dont know if an blue Kane would work, with an new character, and they want big Cass He would never do way better than the original Kane

This first Hell in a Cell was a goddamn masterpiece by two of the best EVER. This match and the story told stood the test of time and will NEVER be topped no matter what kind of talent you put in it.

@jenisia3600

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@fmthebaron

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah HBK/Taker was definitely the best Hell in the Cell ever. Those two were also my two favorite wrestlers ever. Mankind and Terry Funk watched it and said nobody could top that and they were right.

@dankahaner

4 жыл бұрын

Mankind vs Taker literally defined the attitude era. The first one was only good cuz it was Kane’s debut. I completely disagree. Mick Foley himself literally singlehandedly topped the first one.

@DavidLucas-oj6ju

3 жыл бұрын

The beating Shaun Michaels took at the hands of the UNDERTAKER in the first HELL IN A CELL was brutal and bloody, he looked like he went through a meat grinder and cheese grater

@SamsarasArt

Жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree and I was lucky enough that this was the very first WWF show I ever attended. It was magical and easily the best birthday present I had (I had just turned 9 a couple days prior to the show)

It's a crime that Cornette isn't working as a producer in a wrestling company to give us a real wrestling show. He knows so much about the business man. If I found a new wrestling company, I would hire him instantly.

@madddoggnogood1491

4 жыл бұрын

20 years ago maybe. Not now. I'd trust Heyman Hhh Gedo Court Bauer Don Callis Jeremy borash Lagana And Tony Khan All Before id say cornette only because of Cornettes refusal to compromise and speak with tact He still has a great mind for the business but it's my way or the highway with him. You can tell he misses mlw somewhat.....I loved his Jacob Fatu idea. Hes the one that got me excited for joe vs Lesnar at mania....I still want that to happen But cornette is like Terrell Owens or Antonio Brown. No matter how great he is...his attitude isnt worth the effort to put up with it....hes a wrestling genius in a lot of ways. But id rather try to give a new guy a chance steal one of the names I listed or pump some money into a company like the nwa, roh, or mlw r ather than hire him because at least I know I wouldn't have to put out a pr statement or apologize for something he said at least once a week. Hed have to give up his podcast, I'd give him strict bullet points to abide by on commentary or if he cuts a promo and he is to work in conjunction with a team.....I'd never give him full creative control. But hed never agree to that so what would be the point

@arsebiscuits3270

4 жыл бұрын

Darnell Thames who exactly are you??? ....... a nobody

@madddoggnogood1491

4 жыл бұрын

@@arsebiscuits3270 what's your point exactly???

@arsebiscuits3270

4 жыл бұрын

Darnell Thames that nobody on the planet cares what you would make him do .... or who you would hire

@eatyoudown7268

4 жыл бұрын

Darnell Thames I personally thought your comment was poignant and had some extremely valid points, fuck this random dickhead

Kane with a human-looking mask would be maybe too scary for even the Attitude-era at that time.

I was there in St. Louis when Kane made his debut. Such an awesome thing to witness live, though we had no idea what was going on haha

@iiGODLYWARRIOR

4 жыл бұрын

Yup. Y'all didn't hear Vince McMahon freaking out 😆 "That's gotta be Kane!!!"

@hasbook7156

4 жыл бұрын

@@iiGODLYWARRIORHaha exactly!

@bigcaesar314

4 жыл бұрын

Fellow St. Louisan !! did Kane's pyro scare everyone?? like make every jump?

@dankahaner

4 жыл бұрын

They really didn’t think ahead on that one

@christophernicholson20

3 жыл бұрын

@@iiGODLYWARRIOR imagine if Vince said "that's gotta be isaac yankem oops I mean Kane, Kane that's gotta be Kane not that other guy the dentist guy whatever his name is" lol

The whole booking of Hell In A Cell should be taught in class, if such classes existed. Actually Undertaker's whole booking from Summerslam 97 with the start of the Michaels angle all the way to Summerslam 98 where he faced Austin is pretty great stuff. Cornette talking about how it all has to fit just makes so much sense and he ties it in with movies and TV. This isn't wrestling advice, this is fictional storytelling advice. You don't just put random scenes together you build a storyline in any medium so why this be acceptable in wrestling? Russo's dumb idea of having Taker chokeslam Kane a week later is like having the conflict of your novel get solved in chapter 2. So how do you fill up the rest of the book, you moron? I guess wrestling suffers from not having a fixed length. A movie is about two hours, a novel is going to be a few hundred pages, a tv show episode is usually half-an-hour or an hour with a tv season lasting about 20 episodes. So with a clear format for length you know how much time you need to chew up before the climax. Wrestling is the TV show that never ends so without that clear established time frame you can see how a stupid person would blow through an angle too fast. So Vince saying that Taker and Kane will wrestle at Wrestlemania there is a clear timeframe.

@theringmaster886

4 жыл бұрын

WWE has a season. Wrestlemania to Wrestlemania. There used to be four high points every year. Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, Summerslam Survivor Series.

@ladistar

4 жыл бұрын

lmao vince russo strikes again hahaha

@darnelldarden9429

4 жыл бұрын

They used to book so well back then I don’t know wtf happened because it’s garbage now

@darthbigred22

2 жыл бұрын

The class would be called "How to get rid of the two most overrated losers who couldn't draw a dime so we can get SCSA on top, Mick right behind him with Rock and HHH right behind them." Step 1. Have Taker throw HBK onto a casket so he destroys his back 2. Have Hart sign to WCW like he was every going to move the needle there 3. Montreal Screwjob 4. Get Tyson because HBK sucks and is too sissy to be believable against Austin 5. Strip HBK and let him go home and keep him there until all the talent leaves. 6. Let Corny pretend like he did it, mention the Rock n Roll express for the one thousandth time, and then blame Russo for the bad parts like the Rock n Roll express coming into the WWF in the late 90s and going over like a wet fart. I watch that time frame and think now that if Owen didn't hurt Austin then he'd have been champ a lot sooner and those two would have been down the card or in WCW a lot sooner. it was obvious which way that was going and while they can trick younger millennials and zoomers with all this modern BS back then we were happy to be rid of those them. Hart wouldn't have made it another year in that company he didn't fit and HBK was so hated people cheered fucking Sid Vicious over him when HBK was the face.

Kane was a badass back in the day. And I loved the brothers of destruction angle

That notion of Kane putting on a human face as a mask would’ve been sick. I would’ve loved that.

@louis3141

4 жыл бұрын

Just picture him as jacked as he was back then looking like Leatherface or Hannibal Lecter. The only thing that would have made that idea even better if they had fake blood behind the mask looking like he skinned it fresh.

@That_Guy-

4 жыл бұрын

@@louis3141the fresh skinned blood gimmick sounds bad ass

@Baastilein31

4 жыл бұрын

@@louis3141 It wouldnt make sense. The burnings were 20 Years ago and should be healed by that point in time. And imagine working a match with make-up, it would get sweaty and messy.

@louis3141

4 жыл бұрын

@@Baastilein31 Have you not seen burned victims?? They still look like beef jerky even after numerous skin graft surgeries.

I always figured Kane did his signature head tilt because that’s what Michael Myers always did after murdering a victim, since the rest of his mystique was essentially based on him as Corny said. But Glenn said on Broken Skull that he got the head tilt from his dog. She just tilted her head and looked at him one day and he was like wow that would be a cool thing for me to do as Kane lol i thought that was hilarious.

@cishansen4162

4 жыл бұрын

I've always thought it was so cute when my dog puts his head on one side like he's trying to understand what i'm trying to say.

@SteveHolsten

4 жыл бұрын

@@cishansen4162 Y'all are both right!

@stewiep7426

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah kane got it from his dog and the guy who played micheal got it from his dog too if I remember the old Halloween documentary correctly

@easyriderrider4580

4 жыл бұрын

Jason Voorhees is who I always thought Kane was based on, along with Undertaker to a large extent, also did a kind of head tilt with the mask on, too.

@dankahaner

4 жыл бұрын

easyrider rider i’m sure they took elements from both him and myers. mostly michael tho. they’re pretty similar tbh, both masked, both walk slowly, both head tilt.

Cornette's character writing and thoughts going into designing a character is absolute genius

@albertross2456

Жыл бұрын

I would like to wrote a comic book series, but I don't have half the creative and complex mind for Character creation as Corny. It's fkn amazing

Love hearing stories about the development of this story. It's my favorite story line, the anticipation still gives me the chills. I'm about to watch it all over again right now.

The biggest BS they pulled was when they started that Katie Vick storyline and rewrote Kane's story completely. Eveyrhting they told us about Kane in 97and 98 went out the window in 2003. Paul Bearer's hard work and FANTASTIC promos during that time went out the window as well.. Basically they said that while Kane was growing up he was dating chicks and being drunk at parties. WTH? What they told the audience there was that this guy was never burned and he was normal and did normal things like the rest of us.. What happened to him being locked up in the basement for 20 years? Or all the plastic surgeries he had that Paul Bearer was telling us about? If you were going to unmask Kane, and didn't have a way out of showing that he's not difigured, you could have had RVD and him in segments going to the doctor or surgeon to get more plastic surgery done, they only thing they can't fix is the eye.. That way when he finally did unmask, we would see that he wasn't disfigured and the story they told for years would be salvaged.

@dankahaner

4 жыл бұрын

No. You’re wrong. Kane literally said in his interview w stone cold that it added to his character that he only thought he was disfigured but really wasn’t. Granted I agree about Katie Vick. Wrestling as a whole died in 2003.

@eranben-shlomo9856

4 жыл бұрын

Who is Katie Vic?

@DrowningSorrows1

4 жыл бұрын

@@eranben-shlomo9856 You're better off not knowing.

@MrMuaythai84

4 жыл бұрын

@@eranben-shlomo9856 a blow up doll triple h hump in the casket

It’s sad how Vinny Mac turned Hell in a cell into a complete joke.

@raymondsolisjr.1262

4 жыл бұрын

No joke letting Alexa Bliss win it. That was bs

@paulcarpenter7844

4 жыл бұрын

I know but they had to make it safer

@AlexanderMacAoidh

4 жыл бұрын

Raymond Solis Jr. oh look a crybaby

@raymondsolisjr.1262

4 жыл бұрын

@@AlexanderMacAoidh another non-wrestling fan who can't look past beauty. Just cause she's beautiful doesn't mean she has wrestling talent

@raymondsolisjr.1262

4 жыл бұрын

I stand corrected she's never been in a Hell in a Cell. But still believe she doesn't have wrestling talent

That vince impression at 2:30 was mint lol

I admire the attention to detail Jim went into - the psychology behind a match matters.

1997. The year of change in WWF/E. Took me a while to get used to the new things happening and quick matches but wow 97-01 shit was on fire!!!

"Mexican Minis" sounds like something on the Del Taco drive-thru display

Kane's back story is a mess. Let's not even get into Katie Vick.

@TheFailedmessiah

4 жыл бұрын

Katie Vick was hilarious, when Triple H was wearing that Kane mask, and he was like “Hello” in the funeral home. A for comedy, F for wrestling.

@SSGourmet702

3 жыл бұрын

YOU KILLED KATIE VICK!!!!!

When the “unstoppable evil” archetype is done well, it’s timeless storytelling

still love the blue 'real steel' cage. in fact, I think and have always thought that after they retired it, that some guys, when calling out ppl for cage matches, should have suggested this one instead. "oh no, tonight.....there will be no traditional fence cage.....tonight we are going OLD SCHOOL. Saturday night's main event style.

I absolutely loved hearing the psychology and reasoning behind the creation of the stipulation.

Am i the only person who wanted Kane to chokeslam Sunny to make him even more of a danger? I love the bad people, sorry.

@marcuswhitlow548

4 жыл бұрын

Knowing Sunny she probably would've audibly queefed during the slam...

@YouStink86

4 жыл бұрын

She would of Sid Vicious that & shit herself lol!

@wezzab3899

4 жыл бұрын

@@YouStink86 what?

@wezzab3899

4 жыл бұрын

@@YouStink86 sorry mate I got you now lol

@eranben-shlomo9856

4 жыл бұрын

I think that in every form that there is a bad guy in he\she is more creative and start things while the hero is more of a reactionary. Since in another video Cornette mentioned Bruce Willis i will go with him: until Simon was killed he made life a living hell for John McClane! Brian Pillman, as the loose Cannon, did life hell for Marlena and Goldust, and some may say that the loose cannon character was the only bad person ever who had the upper hand over the good guy. Furthermore, who would make you want to buy the comics: the hero because the bad guy makes you want to see how he will be caught\killed! So, why not loving the bad guys more than the wimpy good one?

Kane's debut definitely was worth the hype when he first showed it was like holy crap that's gotta be KANE!

@aaron_aj_knight_95

3 жыл бұрын

Plus the fact that no one even knew what he looked like.

The debut of Kane was awesome and it was perfect! It worked! I was glued to the screen every week watching Raw is War just to see him! Even better, they kept him high on the card for years even after the storyline was done with the Undertaker! One of the best decisions ever!

Listening to him tell the story of how cool Kane was in the beginning takes me back. Those days were awesome in wrestling! Such a great period in wrestling.

kanes early character reminds me a lot of mankind. and that’s the part of wrestling i loved most as a kid. the weird and funny lore behind characters like kane, undertaker and mankind, one being an undead 6’10 wizard with a zombie pallbearer that holds an urn that gives him his power, with a 7 foot tall lost brother from hell that got burnt in a fire, to a disfigured crazy guy in a mask that lives in the boiler room… the characters are just entertaining.

I'm very impressed with Jim Cornette's knowledge of horror classics. I want to know what Jim's favorite horror movie is?

@BOBBYSOX86

4 жыл бұрын

I believe in one interview he said Halloween was his favorite horror movie of all time

When i was growing up watching this era (Kane's debut etc) i had no idea that Jim Cornette and Bruce Pritchard were behind the scenes putting these awesome story lines together. This was my childhood! I would rarely miss a Monday Night or a Sunday pay-per-view , only when i got in trouble and was punished by having to miss wrestling which was the worst possible punishment to me ! I would've rather took closed-fist beatings from my step dad or had took extension cord whippings !!!

I clicked so fast when i saw kane on the thumbnail

@christophernicholson20

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. Even that thumbnail is pretty interesting Kane standing behind Jim cornette and cornette face lol 😂😂😂😂😂

I'm proud that my question got read on the show thanks Jim

They already used "Rage in the Cage". It was the second PPV in 1996, "In Your House: Rage in the Cage". That was the old blue cage match, between Bret Hart and Diesel for the WWF title.

2:05 Thank you!!! I thought I had gone crazy. I have been trying to tell people for over 2 decades that the Undertaker's name used to be Kane. Like I would randomly tune into wrestling in the 00s and be like, "how the fuck is Kane and the Undertaker two different people?" And people would be like "Shut the fuck up." Finally, I have closure. I saw "Mean" Mark Callous and Danny Spivey at the UIC Pavilion back in like '87....who knew that an open miker like that would go on to be a legend. I guess I could say the same for "Stunning" Steve Austin and "Midnight Rocker" Sean Michaels.

kane was my favorite wrestler back in my childhood days, cool story how they came up with this character

Some of JC's best content right here, this was fascinating 👏

If Cornett got his way Kane would of been even more EPIC imagine that for 1 second!!!

Love these types of stories.

What's interesting at this time is you have two great workers Mark Calaway and Glenn Jacobs and a very good manager or writer Jim Cornette the three work together like making a cocktail enjoy 🤑🤑🤑🤑

Austin’s name as chilli mcfreeze is wild 😂😂

That whole "minis freak out when Kane shows up" thing was hilarious. Just watched that on the Network. The most hilarious thing I've seen so far in my watching of the Attitude Era. Not to mention the interactions between the minis, Ross, and Jim. My favorite Kane entrance was his Slow Chemical one. The boom, the fire, the theme, and the way he walks out from Gorilla. Just so badass. Like, you know whoever is in the ring is gonna get their ass beat.

I wonder when they will read my email. I sent this in because I was very very VERY bored of quarantine.

@zekun4741

4 жыл бұрын

probably many months by the time they get to it, if they're even going to read it on the show

@koDaffi

4 жыл бұрын

If not read by now never will be. Say they get 100 emails, even 50. They pick 5-10 best questions that's relevant to show then done. On to the next batch.

@artw1320

4 жыл бұрын

Damn that’s tough

The only person that lies more that Pritchard is HBK

@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother

4 жыл бұрын

Hulk Hogan?

@louis3141

4 жыл бұрын

Meltzer is up there too

@marcuswhitlow548

4 жыл бұрын

HBK lies on his stomach, ass up...

@ZombifiedBuizel

4 жыл бұрын

Marcus Whitlow Funny you say that cause he has posed for Playgirl only to find, to his detriment, that gay guys mostly read it.

@zach7948

4 жыл бұрын

"I was young! And I needed the money."😂

This story is fascinating. I’ve listening to this story 5 times.

I absolutely love when Corny references classic horror films. What a treat it would be to sit back and watch some of the classics with him!

I really want to see a cartoon with all the characters from the thumbnails

Love Jim's podcast lol. Not only do I mostly agree with him. But when I think about what he spoke it gives me a different perspective. Which is what all companies need is someone who criticizes anything and everything created before it is put out for the public

Kane has always been one of my favorites, he’ll always be overshadowed by Taker, but the guys a true talent

In William Castle's 'Mr. Sardonicus' the villain has a disfigured face and wears a humanlike mask to cover it up. It would've been interesting if Kane wore a similiar mask.

Corny is a genius

Actually uswa had a Kane character in 1989. Wore red outfit and mask. He had a closed cage match with ron fuller and was supposed to be a long lost brother

@tttremendousss9789

4 жыл бұрын

Any images or video ?

One of my favorite stories of all time.

Not a Jim Cornette fan, but had newfound respect for him, for explaining this "thought process" thingy so well here. Thank you. Appreciated.

looking back at it, thats pretty impressive how they stretched that feud to wrestlemania and still kept people interested. hard to believe its the same company that cant make a decent weekly raw now.

I agree with 99.99% of the words coming from corny’s mouth BUT that blue cage is iconic

THATS BRILLIANT!! (Corny‘s deep-dive into his idea for Kane)

The big banana split versus one of the Beatles in a cage is the match I never knew I needed.

Also true you never book a match to where you bury the star after the one match and then expect the STAR to continue on in the business on top for the rest for of the time of the run 🤔🤑

I think the Shawn thing may have come from his comments I watched in a shoot a few days ago. Not that he had come up with the idea for a roof on a cage altogether but maybe throw a roof on this one rather than have the old roofless blue monstrosity they used to have around that time. Now whether or not he said that or who came up with it is up for debate.

@fmthebaron

4 жыл бұрын

I believe what Shawn said that he did recommend the roof and the mesh instead of those big blue bars.

“Oh this’d be cool! Let’s put the fuckin big hefty guy from the Banana Splits and a member of the The Beatles against so-and-so, cause it’d be funny!” 😂😂😂

“Especially in the 90s, where Shawn had no thought process except for getting more Somas.” Jeeeeeeesus.

Cornette is right though, he forgets he got what he wanted, when Kane unmasked, he was a psychopath.

“back in the 90s were Michaels had no thought processes other than where can i get more somas” 🤣🤣

@ElliottMichaels56

4 жыл бұрын

Speaking of Michaels, whatever happened to Michaels' old tag-team partner Marty Jannetty?

@izmzer0923

3 жыл бұрын

@@ElliottMichaels56 Marty was too busy taking all the other somas that the kliq didn't get

@Veladus

3 жыл бұрын

@@ElliottMichaels56 You know how Michaels eventually beat "his demons" (aka drugs)? Yeah, well, it was a squash match for Marty and he wasn't the squasher. Last time I heard of Jennetty, he went viral because he was intimidating or shit talking or I don't even know what, he wasn't what you'd call coherent, to an ex-girlfriend publicly on social media... and it went viral because he admitted to a murder in the 80s nobody knew about. It was a lot of false hope for Benoit fans because Jennetty implied he'd killed more since and they thought "YES! Maybe Chris isn't WWE's worst mistake anymore!" I never heard anything more of it because I guess Jennetty is so boring people don't even give a shit enough to follow up when he's admitting to being a serial killer. But of course, the whole thing could've been a drug hallucination. Because drugs. Sorry, "personal demons".

@mattyb567567

3 жыл бұрын

Jennetty posted some more crazy shit today lol

LOL!!! Corny dropping a Banana Splits reference!!! LOVE IT!

I fucken loved the Kane character back in the day, and by all accounts, Glen Jacobs is one of the nicest dudes in the wrestling business.

Unpopular opinion, but Kane's character is kinda more interesting than Undertaker His reason was he was on a vengeance for Taker burning him and his family, he was a monster unhinged, can't talk, then upon wrestling and destroying people, he started getting emotions and starts to like people and later starts having friends, now he is mayor with a freaking Devil Trigger that he summons his demon kane when he needs it

This is the first time I disagree with Cornette. I think Kane’s original attire was amazing.

@That_Guy-

4 жыл бұрын

Expect the Cape he wore at mania looked stupid

@MrMuaythai84

4 жыл бұрын

@@That_Guy- huh? he wore a cape? when?

@That_Guy-

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrMuaythai84 my bad he didn't wear a cape at mania but there is a picture from a house show of him wearing it

When I was a kid, I had my Kane action figure on the shelf with my X-Men action figures. Not going to lie, he fit right in with the mutants.

You're a real one if you remember Kane's cape. 🔥🔥🔥

Jim Cornette if Kane was pitched today "Why would a crazy person just so happen to have a camera filming walls through his mask and it somehow made it's way to being shown on TV. THIS IS UNREALISTIC."

@longj74

4 жыл бұрын

That would be Brian more than Jim lol

@mosaster9331

4 жыл бұрын

Well actually today everyone has a camera in their pocket or easy access to high definition cameras. So while I see what ya did there and agree to a point. Neither Jim's original argument about cameras nor your analogy make any sense in my opinion. Simply for the fact they know that their on TV whether it's supposed to be real or not so why wouldn't they have camera people.. abc followed Ali down a street in a foreign country.

@TheBadGuy235

4 жыл бұрын

Skullkid Sid, I immediately thought of that same thing lol

@sacredsteeler

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. But AJ Styles being locked in an Undertaker themed room is stupid

@Njbear7453

4 жыл бұрын

ed ward Nice essay, and it’s “they’re” not their.

honestly though, thank goodness they didn't go with Jim's idea for Kane's look.

@aaronm4858

3 жыл бұрын

I kinda liked the idea of kane wearing a human face mask because of the uncanny valley

@cptnmrgnkid

3 жыл бұрын

What?!?! I thought his idea made tons of sense. Why does Kane wear a red super hero outfit? Did Paul Bearer get it for him? Why would he get him an outfit like that? To me the logical look would be the one Jim was describing. Someone who was severely burned and just wants to be normal would have been so much better.

That's why I listen to Jim Cornette, not that f*cking twitter bs

I always thought the blue cage looked more lethal than the chain link version personally, even if blue isn't the best colour (then again, it seems like it was more dangerous so switching to chain links was probably a wise decision).

Pete Rose gimmick was funny, and when he tombstone Pete Rose again a year later made me laugh again.

@bizzybezz

4 жыл бұрын

Well he was a rookie lol so I’m sure he was happy to get his foot in

Even more reason to hate Shawn Michaels

@S1873

4 жыл бұрын

HBK sounds like he was a prick of a person at his heights and clearly had his demons that contributed but as a wrestler, theres no doubt of his place at the top table.

@raymondsolisjr.1262

4 жыл бұрын

@@S1873 met him at an autograph signing and he didn't have enough respect to make eye contact with me. Regret ever liking the asshole

@raymondsolisjr.1262

4 жыл бұрын

@Puppet master this must have been 4 or 5 years ago

@S1873

4 жыл бұрын

@@raymondsolisjr.1262 Same mate, I went along to the hotel before a show to meet them, met Flair, Cena, Edge, Malenko and asked HBK to sign a copy of his book that I had with me and he just walked straight past me, douchebag.

13:05 JERKS the door OFF the inescapable cage...classic 😂😂😂

Cornett is the best of the best can hear him talk all day