Jim Cornette Experience - Episode 279: Montreal Revisited

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This week on the Experience, after his recent televised confession, Jim revisits the Montreal Screwjob! Jim talks about what really went down between Bret, Shawn & Vince, sharing his thoughts about the recent Montreal episode of Dark Side Of The Ring, while shedding all new light on wrestling's most infamous match!
Artwork by Travis Heckel!
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  • @giangarcia3364
    @giangarcia33645 жыл бұрын

    Lesson: don't ever dare Corney to do anything or he might just create the most controversial wrestling finish in history.

  • @PLATINUMSWORDS
    @PLATINUMSWORDS5 жыл бұрын

    Cornette a few years ago: "If the finish was my idea I wouldn't admit it in public, because it's a 'No Win' situation" Cornette Now: "IT WAS MEEEE, BRET" Jim Ross: "AWE SUNOVA BITCH!"

  • @gagedyer7535

    @gagedyer7535

    Жыл бұрын

    Just about sums it up tbh LMFAO!!!

  • @eazye088

    @eazye088

    Жыл бұрын

    The statue of limitations is beyond over. At the the time it wasn't a good idea to fess up.

  • @jdd32384
    @jdd323845 жыл бұрын

    "It was me Hitman. It was me all along" Jim Cornette 2019

  • @BK32Kingz

    @BK32Kingz

    5 жыл бұрын

    @John Volken He did it.....for the Rock

  • @eranben-shlomo9856

    @eranben-shlomo9856

    5 жыл бұрын

    He did it... for the people.

  • @akkermansia1488

    @akkermansia1488

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shut'cher mouth ya thong-wearin fatty!

  • @TheBraunMachine2011

    @TheBraunMachine2011

    5 жыл бұрын

    J.R.: "Aw, sonovabitch!"

  • @mutinyontheark

    @mutinyontheark

    5 жыл бұрын

    KONO CORNETTE DA

  • @thesolucian4
    @thesolucian45 жыл бұрын

    26:36 Dark Side Of The Ring discussion.

  • @hardcastle1757

    @hardcastle1757

    5 жыл бұрын

    Evilucian you sir are the real MVP

  • @InazumaStudios1

    @InazumaStudios1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Evilucian!

  • @revolverrambles

    @revolverrambles

    5 жыл бұрын

    You are a legend. Thanks for giving me back time I couldn't get back

  • @pokelife6123

    @pokelife6123

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @m.d.1395

    @m.d.1395

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @scottsmith4854
    @scottsmith48545 жыл бұрын

    That story about Stacy being out of the will if she doesn’t assist Jim pissing on Russo’s grave is hilarious.

  • @tommymclaughlin3203
    @tommymclaughlin32035 жыл бұрын

    The mere fact we're still talking about The Montreal screwjob speaks volumes about the incident.

  • @RoyalTy37

    @RoyalTy37

    5 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @genghishank1

    @genghishank1

    5 жыл бұрын

    I also agree

  • @Andyhhhdx

    @Andyhhhdx

    5 жыл бұрын

    I also agree.

  • @gordonoliver6835

    @gordonoliver6835

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @BSultimate

    @BSultimate

    5 жыл бұрын

    The greatest angle in wrestling history

  • @bluhmer1990
    @bluhmer19905 жыл бұрын

    Poor Corny just can't win. the one time Vince listens to him is the time Jim doesn't want him to do it.

  • @pulsarstargrave256

    @pulsarstargrave256

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cornette doesn't have anything to be ashamed of because Vince was probably thinking about doing a screw job anyway!

  • @WhelmedButReady

    @WhelmedButReady

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@pulsarstargrave256 If he was he wouldn't have mulled it over for several weeks and given everybody involved high anxiety till it was over

  • @pulsarstargrave256

    @pulsarstargrave256

    5 жыл бұрын

    @RedLightning\We often forget that Vince pulled a screwjob on Wendi Richter in the 80s so he's not above doing it if he has to! Now, if a wrestler appears in his or her hometown, they had better expect to be booked to lose!

  • @sublime8956

    @sublime8956

    4 жыл бұрын

    bluhmer1990 lol so true

  • @alexsugden2734

    @alexsugden2734

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@pulsarstargrave256 Double Cross. Do you not listen?

  • @ThisCharmingMan1984
    @ThisCharmingMan1984 Жыл бұрын

    I love the image, of Gerald Briscoe trying to teach Michaels how to actually shoot, the night before the match with Bret; I imagine Gerald watching Shawn attempt the things he taught him, trying to smile and be encouraging to him…all the while thinking to himself: “…Bret’s gonna fucking murder him!”

  • @rossmartucci8547
    @rossmartucci85475 жыл бұрын

    This man deserves so much more praises than he actualy does. Great mind for the business and respects history. I love Bruce's podcast but I can't help but to feel like everything sounds so much more legit when it comes from Jim. Doesn't dance around topics and shoots straight.👍

  • @concerta56

    @concerta56

    2 жыл бұрын

    Brotha Luv is an office stooge

  • @muttley8818

    @muttley8818

    Жыл бұрын

    @@concerta56 Bruce's impressions are second to none though. Especially his impression of Corny. Only JR's Cornette impression comes close.

  • @Rodderz1992
    @Rodderz19925 жыл бұрын

    Jim's comments on Notre Dame is incredibly insightful and how I see maintaining and preserving historical artifacts.

  • @phayes84

    @phayes84

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it was a very thoughtful and inspiring analysis.

  • @skeletonbuyingpealts7134

    @skeletonbuyingpealts7134

    Жыл бұрын

    13:00

  • @NoMoreBsPlease

    @NoMoreBsPlease

    8 ай бұрын

    Are you smoking crack? He literally went on a full Trump Derangement Syndrome RANT! He really acted like air dropping water was a ridiculous idea, when it's used all the time.

  • @mikelong2756
    @mikelong27564 жыл бұрын

    Jim puts over Brian HUGE at the beginning of every episode😂 it never gets old. Then Brian immediately shoots down the first thing he brings up

  • @stagglee1227
    @stagglee12275 жыл бұрын

    I love the kayfabe explanation of the match in the beginning. I was genuinely disgusted by Tracy Smothers' actions before I realized I was getting worked. LOL!!

  • @TheHeavyMetalGamer91

    @TheHeavyMetalGamer91

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's just how good Cornette is... I was thinking to myself at the end "How was this NOT setup?"

  • @TrippyTheShroom

    @TrippyTheShroom

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same! I was like goddamn this guy went way off the rails lol. The way Jim explained it was absolutely perfect.

  • @dantheman9228

    @dantheman9228

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol yep nobody does it quite like Jim

  • @giangarcia3364
    @giangarcia33645 жыл бұрын

    The psychology behind Jim's orchestration of the double-cross is amazing to hear.

  • @TheDarkWarlords
    @TheDarkWarlords5 жыл бұрын

    I love when people still talk about Montreal!

  • @SouthWestCarpHunter
    @SouthWestCarpHunter5 жыл бұрын

    Jim literally tells the best stories ever. So great to listen too. Just calls it how it was

  • @LongHuynh-bx5ll

    @LongHuynh-bx5ll

    4 жыл бұрын

    Most detailed podcast ever.

  • @revanblackthorn1559

    @revanblackthorn1559

    3 жыл бұрын

    Would love to hang out with Jim have a beer & just listen to his stories

  • @djcease1996

    @djcease1996

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's unhealthy how many hours I can blow listening to Cornette speak.

  • @thedoctor3528
    @thedoctor352810 ай бұрын

    00:00 Intro, Plugs x 12:21 Church fire 26:33 Montreal Screwhob DSOTR

  • @KingHayabusa384
    @KingHayabusa3845 жыл бұрын

    Brian's laugh is just fabulous. 😂

  • @MihiraTheAce
    @MihiraTheAce5 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Just wow! The knowledge that Jim Cornette ,of all people, is the reason that wrestling is where it's at today is just mind blowing. No wonder that he doesn't want credit for it.

  • @Gravydog316

    @Gravydog316

    5 жыл бұрын

    *sports entertainment

  • @BigEvan96

    @BigEvan96

    5 жыл бұрын

    he did help create John Cena.

  • @elijahechicagobearsboyd5734

    @elijahechicagobearsboyd5734

    5 жыл бұрын

    @John O Burn in hell

  • @chrisp5529
    @chrisp55295 жыл бұрын

    jim inadvertently had a hand in one of the most shocking moments in wwe history

  • @JackTheripper911

    @JackTheripper911

    2 жыл бұрын

    In wrestling history as a whole

  • @leroyjamesarmitage4362
    @leroyjamesarmitage43625 жыл бұрын

    What a great show. Jim was the only one who could put the finish together. Then it all went off the rails.

  • @dantheman9228
    @dantheman92285 жыл бұрын

    Do not feel bad Jim both Bret and Shawn got a match that will live in the history of wrestling for eternity and both them probably made lots of cash over the years from being interviewed about the Montreal screw job. They should both send you a big thank you card imo

  • @jeff97ish
    @jeff97ish5 жыл бұрын

    I have a ton of respect for you Jim. You are one of the best minds in the business.

  • @EnjoySackLunch

    @EnjoySackLunch

    Жыл бұрын

    Relax bud

  • @billyray5232
    @billyray52325 жыл бұрын

    How pathetic was Vince Russo on Dark Side of the Ring?!!! He even admitted he wasn't asked to be part of the episode...He asked to be, and then claims he came up with the idea...And gave it to Vince...

  • @briancromartie3149

    @briancromartie3149

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's Vince Russo for you.

  • @billyray5232

    @billyray5232

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@briancromartie3149 Exactly...Bro ( my Russo impression) lol

  • @michaelrimz4477

    @michaelrimz4477

    5 жыл бұрын

    @John O Russo is just a liar I don't know people listens to himstill.he hasnt been relevant for nearly 20 years and helped kill wcw

  • @billyray5232

    @billyray5232

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Brandi lord I 100 percent believe it' was Jim's idea..It's an old school Wrestling finish, both Vince's and Jim were at the Meeting, the only true Wrestling minds there were Cornette and McMahon, Russo and his ("Crash TV") didn't come up with that finish.

  • @jbellflower83

    @jbellflower83

    5 жыл бұрын

    Russo is nothing but an attention whore.

  • @garyofox
    @garyofox5 жыл бұрын

    Jim never went into this depth of information, but he’s alluded to it before on his podcast before!

  • @ljcarthan3504
    @ljcarthan35045 жыл бұрын

    I love Jim Cornette that's never going to change. But I'm in shock that he mastermind the Montreal screw job. Especially given his feelings on Brett and Shawn

  • @adamweishaupt2846
    @adamweishaupt28465 жыл бұрын

    "It's Jim 'Hitman', it was Jim all along 'Hitman'!"

  • @TheBraunMachine2011

    @TheBraunMachine2011

    5 жыл бұрын

    J.R.: "Aw, sonovabitch!"

  • @yokothespacewhale
    @yokothespacewhale5 жыл бұрын

    Delighted to hear this angelic voice back to it's full state of sublime divinity.

  • @christianroy5663
    @christianroy56635 жыл бұрын

    Bret certainly wasn't the best talker in the business, but he did improve somewhat during his heel run with the whole Canada vs. USA conflict. He's also often been criticized for taking himself too seriously and being his own biggest fan, which is pretty true if you watch some of his interviews. Regardless, he always did have great body language in the ring, whether it was to convey his emotions (anger, fatigue, frustration, etc.), or it was selling. His match with Austin at Wrestlemania 13 was a fucking classic and I think is one of the greatest Wrestlemania matches of all time. After Austin had passed out from the sharpshooter, you see Bret with his hands on his hips standing defiant and triumphant over his opponent, the volatile, confrontational bastard that had been verbally and physically attacking him for some time after his return to the WWF. This is the guy the people had been cheering. The American people condoned this kind of behavior when Bret saw himself as a hero and role model only to be stabbed in the back. Now it was time for Bret to let out some more pent up frustration by kicking him when he's down. Then his great heel refusal to challenge an intervening Shamrock was pretty sweet. In the end Bret further legitimized himself as one of the best in the business after his long hiatus by winning the match, yet Austin never actually tapped out. They both got over as a heel and face... though depending on where each event was held.

  • @Al-nt8tn

    @Al-nt8tn

    5 жыл бұрын

    Christian Roy: Heel Bret during the height of the 97 rivalry with Austin and HBK was handsdown the best promo. You never knew whether it was a shoot or work. Bret is the inventor of the pipe bomb, not cm punk.

  • @toogifted6491

    @toogifted6491

    5 жыл бұрын

    I watched brets documentary wrestling with shadows on that whole ‘97 year leading up to and ending at the screwjob and I must say they put Bret through the fucking ringer on the way out he didn’t deserve to go through all that shit

  • @josemuniz4454
    @josemuniz44545 жыл бұрын

    Jim and brian, keep up the great work!!!👍

  • @ciaranmurren
    @ciaranmurren5 жыл бұрын

    It wasn't 'Bret won't lose in Canada' it was Bret won't lose to Shawn after all the B'S he'd done.

  • @michaelgraham9066

    @michaelgraham9066

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ciaran Murren exactly why would bret do the favour to someone who said he would never put him over

  • @ciamciaramcia99

    @ciamciaramcia99

    5 жыл бұрын

    It was both.

  • @ciaranmurren

    @ciaranmurren

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelgraham9066 I'm a Bret Hart mark, i'm drawing attention to the mistake many commentators are making.

  • @JCD1078

    @JCD1078

    5 жыл бұрын

    So you were there for the conversation? Oh you weren't? Then STFU.

  • @KClouisville

    @KClouisville

    5 жыл бұрын

    @keller blair Exactly, while I agree with Cornette that Hart did maybe take himself too seriously, I tend to believe him over Michaels any day of the week. He's known for screwing folks over and being a diva a-hole back in the day.

  • @alexanderwagner4587
    @alexanderwagner45875 жыл бұрын

    Soooo, essentially Corny (albeit unknowingly) booked the Montreal Screwjob?!?!😱

  • @PGO_Gaming
    @PGO_Gaming5 жыл бұрын

    We have heard other podcasts with Jim Cornette where he has discussed the Screwjob, and he has never taken responsibility for the Screwjob. He has always stated that Vince should screw Bret for the belt, but not how to do it, other than not doing the small package. This is the first time I've heard Jim say "it was my spot". I believe him 100% because other than Bruce Pritchard, Patterson, and Briscoe, no one else had the wrestling acumen to come up with that spot. I know for damn sure, it wasn't Russo.

  • @daedaethomas47

    @daedaethomas47

    3 жыл бұрын

    Patterson is one of the best finish guys ever. He could've come up with this.

  • @shawnm4189

    @shawnm4189

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bolin is claiming he came up with the sharpshooter finish and Jim took credit for it.

  • @christophergargaro959

    @christophergargaro959

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@daedaethomas47 Pat for sure could’ve but as Jim said, Vince always protected him. Vince had an extreme loyalty to Pat because of his relationship with his Dad. I can absolutely see Vince not putting Pat in the position of having to screw Bret. My guess is Vince told Pat only when he needed to know - as in right before the show. Pat then had plausible deniability about coming up with the finish.

  • @jason77584
    @jason775845 жыл бұрын

    Man I could listen to jim talk wrestling for hours great stuff

  • @CarlMarxPunk
    @CarlMarxPunk5 жыл бұрын

    "Don't dare me to come up with a finish or I'll kill the business" (James Cornette, 1997)

  • @whydat684
    @whydat6845 жыл бұрын

    It took Alot of sack to tell this. My respect Jimmy

  • @TimeBomb014X

    @TimeBomb014X

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just in, wrestling manager and Booker Jim Cornette found dead, cause of death is believed to be by sharpshooter

  • @FreneticZetetic
    @FreneticZetetic5 жыл бұрын

    I'm a simple man. I see a new Cornette Experience video, I click play. Life is once again good.

  • @Dumbledork_Prime
    @Dumbledork_Prime5 жыл бұрын

    Now I understand why Corny's name isn't mentioned even once in Bret's autobiography. I've always wondered about that since every jabroni I've never heard of is in it, but no a personality like Jim. It all makes sense to me now.

  • @Dumbledork_Prime

    @Dumbledork_Prime

    5 жыл бұрын

    @HEAVY SYSTEMS, Inc. I've tried to listen to some of Russo's podcasts, but I couldn't take it for more than a few moments. His voice is grating and there's at least one 'bro' in every sentence. Vince Russo even made me hate Matt Riddle who is using 'bro' all the time too.

  • @JohnSmith-ro2sc

    @JohnSmith-ro2sc

    5 жыл бұрын

    Amazingly I've never read Brets biography. I love Bret, he was always my favorite talent. I agree with Corny in that if Bret had a flaw beyond his promos, he took himself a bit too seriously. Hart would have been at home in the business 10-20 years earlier; protect the business and make it look brutal. Corny strikes me as the one who loves the road, the art, the athleticism, and the fun times with the boys. If I could ever pick two people that i wish could train me as a pro wrestler, it'd be Bret and Corny.

  • @giangarcia3364

    @giangarcia3364

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Dumbledork_Prime bro, imagine if like, bro, Matt Riddle bro, that bro, was on the main rosta', bro. we'd like, strap the rocket to 'em bro, it'll be amazin' bro. alright, let's do this rasslin' thing, bro.

  • @chrischar9428

    @chrischar9428

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JohnSmith-ro2sc that's what makes the great ones great

  • @JohnSmith-ro2sc

    @JohnSmith-ro2sc

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chrischar9428 to an extent, I agree. Look at those like Curt Hennig though. A great, no doubt. But based off everything I've ever heard, Curt never took himself too seriously.

  • @AlesVerdnik
    @AlesVerdnik5 жыл бұрын

    Stone Cold: So, you basically came up with the finish, right ? Vince Russo: Yes

  • @YousefTube

    @YousefTube

    5 жыл бұрын

    KING: Ahhhhhhh! JR: Austin got the stunner on Vince Russo BY GOD .

  • @Godeater13273

    @Godeater13273

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@YousefTube 😂

  • @davidalexander3320

    @davidalexander3320

    5 жыл бұрын

    Them: who do you believe? Russo or...... Me: the other person

  • @davidalexander3320

    @davidalexander3320

    5 жыл бұрын

    Russo also told stone cold that it was his idea for the rock to refer to himself in the 3rd person. Multiple other people have said that idea came from Jim Ross after seeing Deion Sanders doing it.

  • @johnathanross6519

    @johnathanross6519

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jim's is pretty consistent when he is retelling wrestling stories, so I'll believe Jim before I buy any of Russo's bullshit.

  • @manband20
    @manband205 жыл бұрын

    Jimmy better not sign with WWE and let them promote his podcast or else they'll change its name to "The Jim Cornette Experience Experience"

  • @mikesabourin2

    @mikesabourin2

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @technodumpsterinc

    @technodumpsterinc

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or they'll put "Supershow" at the end

  • @giangarcia3364

    @giangarcia3364

    5 жыл бұрын

    or they'll change the logo because they don't own Corney's face.

  • @ernestiechevalierchildprod1586

    @ernestiechevalierchildprod1586

    4 жыл бұрын

    he wont he's way too extreme for dubba dubba

  • @mc12358
    @mc123583 жыл бұрын

    I just found this video, and immediately this is one of my favorite thumbnails for any episode of the Experience. Bravo, Travis, Bravo! Cornette didn't tap!!

  • @beautifulstrongman
    @beautifulstrongman5 жыл бұрын

    Good to hear Jim get this of his chest!

  • @johnboydojo
    @johnboydojo5 жыл бұрын

    That was brilliant. Jim and Brian are great

  • @vegitausa
    @vegitausa5 жыл бұрын

    I actually listened to this before seeing dark side of the ring. Finally saw the episode and now im back for an even better perspective

  • @tex8305
    @tex83054 жыл бұрын

    "Tune in next week when Jim talks with our special guest, Eddie Mansfield.". I cannot stop laughing.

  • @austinhunt5190
    @austinhunt51902 жыл бұрын

    Jim cornette, Paul heyman, and Chris Jericho are the best storytellers I’ve ever heard

  • @briancromartie3149
    @briancromartie31495 жыл бұрын

    " Read the Observer, because Dave had everything " - Jim Cornette. And yet, people will still hate on Meltzer.

  • @charismatic9904

    @charismatic9904

    5 жыл бұрын

    Its the only story Dave ever got right because its the only one he ever chose to get accurate as opposed to bullshit.

  • @briancromartie3149

    @briancromartie3149

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@charismatic9904 Not really.

  • @Gravydog316

    @Gravydog316

    4 жыл бұрын

    only because Dave is now a sell-out on twitter & needs to be controversial now to get Likes & Hits & attention, since everyone has a voice these days...

  • @ksink74
    @ksink745 жыл бұрын

    Classic Corny play-by-play at the beginning. I can almost hear Lance Russell, God rest his soul.

  • @hawsse2796
    @hawsse27965 жыл бұрын

    "John Wayne's gotta put the indians over when goes to Metro Goldwin Mayer."

  • @SonicAlchemy13

    @SonicAlchemy13

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's what happens when it gets down to nut cuttin' time!

  • @mrkipling2201

    @mrkipling2201

    3 жыл бұрын

    “ so basically it was a big bunch of bullshit!! “

  • @TSilkyLife
    @TSilkyLife5 жыл бұрын

    Artwork by Travis Heckel is great as always haha

  • @timmutohfan

    @timmutohfan

    5 жыл бұрын

    But why did he have to give Bret stroke mouth?

  • @TSilkyLife

    @TSilkyLife

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@timmutohfan I saw it as a smirk :)

  • @Gravydog316

    @Gravydog316

    5 жыл бұрын

    If i knew had (&/or had the talent to,) I would make cartoons for these shows lol

  • @furnitureconsortium

    @furnitureconsortium

    5 жыл бұрын

    do you know where I could get all of these images in a downloadable format? I'd love to have them as wallpaper on my phone and laptop. I'm friends with Travis on Facebook. I always liked his artwork, especially his Cornette work, and his Paul E. Hitchcock, haha!

  • @Gravydog316

    @Gravydog316

    5 жыл бұрын

    ask travis on FB, @@furnitureconsortium

  • @Adrian21
    @Adrian215 жыл бұрын

    "I would have to love to screw over Shawn Michaels." lol

  • @artistprince7577

    @artistprince7577

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes would of been great the guy is a snake 🐍

  • @raymondlaney8508
    @raymondlaney85085 жыл бұрын

    Actually feel like there some closure and makes a lot of sense. Jim had to do what he had to. Vince was a master manipulator and couldn't imagine being in a meeting with him on a situation like that.

  • @DansBLACKFLAG
    @DansBLACKFLAG5 жыл бұрын

    You're a legend Corny

  • @tanktanner3073
    @tanktanner30735 жыл бұрын

    Knowing how much JC likes WENDY'S Triple Cheese Burgers I would think He would adore "Where's The Beef? Woman.

  • @adam-thesportsguy6147

    @adam-thesportsguy6147

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tank Tanner “Triple Cheeseburger, triple cheese, double mayo, extra onions, motherf*cker!!!” -Jim Cornette

  • @adamturner749
    @adamturner7495 жыл бұрын

    Wow just wow! I'm stunned hearing this and that's a hell of a secret to keep for so long. Jim should never feel bad though he spoke in frustration about saying screw him and Vince dares him to work how. Jim would never ever know Vince would go for this as Jim stated that they rarely listened to him so he had no reason to think they actually would this time.

  • @spaceage4151
    @spaceage41514 жыл бұрын

    Think about it this way... It took ol' Southern wrasslin' James E. Cornette to put together a New York finish in Canada that McMahon couldn't think of himself and actually be believable. And at the same time to out smart a guy who couldn't be out smarted, Bret Hart. There is a tale to be told just in the fact that a Southern guy booked a finish for the 2nd generation Northern guy to beat the 2nd generation Canadian guy.... Vince may "hate" Southern people and wrasslin' but between Jerry Jarrett, The Briscoe's, Jim Ross and Jim Cornette. He sure has relied his business in the hardest of times on good ol' Southern wrasslin'....

  • @MilMaska
    @MilMaska5 жыл бұрын

    "No. I'm not gonna let him beat me in Canada" - Bret Hart

  • @Njbear7453

    @Njbear7453

    5 жыл бұрын

    “That’s like saying I’m not gonna let someone beat me in the United States cus I’m from the United States!” 😂😂

  • @joker167able

    @joker167able

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't let anyone beat me in New Jersey 🤓

  • @michaelgraham9066

    @michaelgraham9066

    5 жыл бұрын

    It wasn’t just about that with the following bret had in Canada it would have hurt him money wise to lose the belt there bret could have lost the belt at the next in your house ppv

  • @wolfpacsyxx

    @wolfpacsyxx

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just watch wrestling shadows he has everything recorded they fucked him over for no reason then everyone has changed their stories except him, because they are all pussies

  • @tonynoto9232

    @tonynoto9232

    5 жыл бұрын

    It was only to HBK. He would've dropped it to someone else.

  • @michaelgraham9066
    @michaelgraham90665 жыл бұрын

    You can say what you want about Bret and how he took things way too serious but at the end of the day all’s shawn had to do was put Bret over at the survivor series and then get his win back at the dx in your house I truly believe Bret when he says all he wanted was for Shawn to show he was willing to do the same thing Bret was willing to do for him especially when Shawn was supposed to put Bret over at mania 13 and pulled out and after all the stories have came out over the years where Shawn was openly saying he was not going to put anyone over plus don’t forget shawn changed the finish to the one night only ppv and wouldn’t put Davey boy over in his hometown

  • @wecoolwecoolbounce5191
    @wecoolwecoolbounce51915 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Jim, its time to go big league and put this show on camera.

  • @BeeBumper

    @BeeBumper

    2 жыл бұрын

    Meh

  • @davidholzer4155
    @davidholzer41554 жыл бұрын

    "I may have hitmen looking for me." Even when he's not meaning to he makes a funny pun

  • @Flores1a11
    @Flores1a115 жыл бұрын

    Shawn "I'll never put Bret Hart over" Michaels

  • @jjjjj2220

    @jjjjj2220

    5 жыл бұрын

    He never dropped a title except 2 times kinda smart make his character on TV seem more real

  • @skylerb97

    @skylerb97

    4 жыл бұрын

    Joey G he also dropped the tag titles that he won with Cena.

  • @jasonw2942

    @jasonw2942

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Joey G And you see the theme with the 1st, and 3rd one? Scott Hall, and Triple H were friends with Shawn

  • @dopeascopebrother60

    @dopeascopebrother60

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bret " i dont wanna drop the belt even though im literally leaving the company " Hart

  • @joedavidson6556

    @joedavidson6556

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most seem to forget Shawn jobbing to Brett throughout the early 90’s during Harts 1st title run. Even jobbed to Brett for the real First ladder match in wwf/e. Brett just didn’t want to see somebody else get a run with the title. Brett the crybaby Hart. 2 words for ya hit man fans, Suck it

  • @blamegamemaster551
    @blamegamemaster5515 жыл бұрын

    Jim it would be even better being visible like Joe rogan podcast 2 c your facial expressions lmao

  • @johnbeer4963

    @johnbeer4963

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jim walks around and rants, i agree, this would be fantastic to watch, can you imagine

  • @michaelhoule2134

    @michaelhoule2134

    5 жыл бұрын

    YUP I'd PAY to watch Jim go on his rants live. Imagine the drama, the facial expressions, is it a work or a shoot?, oh man do it now Jim I'm honestly surprised he hasn't done something like that already.

  • @kinsaneasylum1266

    @kinsaneasylum1266

    5 жыл бұрын

    I vote for Jim Cornette to go on Joe Rogans podcast. Oh that would be great

  • @dennisbroszinski105
    @dennisbroszinski1055 жыл бұрын

    "That Row had already been plowed!" This is Wrestling History, Folks! Its been a long time that I laught so fucking hard. Greetings From Germany to both of you...

  • @Tacsmoker
    @Tacsmoker5 жыл бұрын

    id love a sit down chat with a few burgers and a bong with jim,

  • @InazumaStudios1
    @InazumaStudios15 жыл бұрын

    I love how lucid Corny sounds on this episode; particularly talking about Notre Dame and the Screwjob.

  • @slamrobot6584
    @slamrobot65845 жыл бұрын

    I still wonder what would of happened to Bret if Goldberg didn't injured him. We would of still had a few years of good Hitman wrestling. Shame.

  • @Njbear7453

    @Njbear7453

    5 жыл бұрын

    Probably not , wcw wasted him

  • @hooksncrosses3419

    @hooksncrosses3419

    5 жыл бұрын

    Would he of been involved in the infamous invasion angle in 2001?

  • @Garyrep

    @Garyrep

    5 жыл бұрын

    TNA Bret? No thanks.

  • @marcpower4167

    @marcpower4167

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sad, by that point Bret was giving them good ideas and they were listening (the steel plate bit for instance). But if Russo still came to WCW, it wouldn't have mattered. He killed WCW.

  • @Garyrep

    @Garyrep

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Bryan Mack imagine him taking on a returning Shawn Michaels in 2002.

  • @pjam1184
    @pjam11845 жыл бұрын

    Seems like a few people take credit for the double cross idea. I think Shawn credits HHH as bringing it up, Bruce says a few other people mentioned it but he won't say or doesn't know who brought it up first. And I'm guessing Russo takes credit for it as well.

  • @chrischar9428

    @chrischar9428

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fick hhh and bruce

  • @dreddbustya2153
    @dreddbustya21535 жыл бұрын

    GREAT podcast today.

  • @thejustice3139

    @thejustice3139

    5 жыл бұрын

    I am the Justice

  • @dreddbustya2153

    @dreddbustya2153

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@thejustice3139 I AM THE LAW!

  • @markmenning1804
    @markmenning18045 жыл бұрын

    Teddy hart and Davey boy Smith jr may get you on your next MLW show

  • @BigDawgSportsEntertainment
    @BigDawgSportsEntertainment5 жыл бұрын

    So in reality carni created the Mr Mchahon character by accident because Vince drawed attention to himself, thinking he would be a baby face, and ultimately leading to the attitude era , Carni is a Genius!!!!

  • @smusse091
    @smusse0915 жыл бұрын

    lmao that this pic though 😂😂😂🤣

  • @bilklein
    @bilklein5 жыл бұрын

    To play devil's advocate, one of the good things to come out of the demise of kayfabe was the opening up of a whole new avenue for retired wrestlers. People love to hear the old stories and now that the vets were no longer constrained by the pro wrestling version of omerta, they were able to write books, start podcasts and score lucrative speaking engagements by shooting rather than regurgitating the same old storylines and answering the same lame "is wrestling fake?" queries. Would Corny's podcasts and appearances be as lucrative if he had to stick to kayfabe? As for the effects on modern-day wrestling, well, it's a case of adapt or perish just like any other form of entertainment. Be it vaudeville, burlesque, circuses, big-band music, roller derby, Frankie and Annette, whatever, they all had their day and now they are for the most part gone other than a few scattered nostalgia acts. It would be nice to go back to the days of territories and kayfabe, but there is no unringing that bell. It's not going to happen, best to move on.

  • @michaelallanrubin2376

    @michaelallanrubin2376

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bill Klein wrestling isn't fake it's fixed

  • @bilklein

    @bilklein

    5 жыл бұрын

    I never said it was fake, I said that people ask "Is wrestling fake?"

  • @PriestJTrill

    @PriestJTrill

    3 жыл бұрын

    I, though I hate why, agree with you on the stories of the retired or legends. Kayfabe was a good draw because even though we all knew it was fixed, you liked to be somewhat surprised and was honest to the artform

  • @HITMANPegas
    @HITMANPegas5 жыл бұрын

    Why doesn't anyone mention that Shawn was an asshole and said that he would not do the same for Bret? I also thought Bret would have dropped the belt if Shawn dropped it to Owen and Shawn said no so Bret said no as well.

  • @stevenlamorte6330
    @stevenlamorte63305 жыл бұрын

    The "Young Pistols" were one of my favorite tag teams!

  • @slick1006ify
    @slick1006ify5 жыл бұрын

    Et tu, Jim? Et tu? Lol🤣

  • @dimedraweriv258
    @dimedraweriv2585 жыл бұрын

    What's the big deal? It was still Mcmahon's call. I agree about Bret taking himself too serious. You didn't best anyone for it Bret. Having said that I'm like Jim I liked Bret more then Michaels.

  • @JCD1078
    @JCD10785 жыл бұрын

    Montreal starts around 26:30

  • @jeffreyriley8742
    @jeffreyriley87425 жыл бұрын

    So Jim is inadvertently responsible for inspiring the Montreal Screwjob.

  • @BrakerLane
    @BrakerLane11 ай бұрын

    I love these thumbnails 😂

  • @TheRosswise
    @TheRosswise5 жыл бұрын

    I still blame Vince for this. Corny never should have been put in that position.

  • @adam-thesportsguy6147
    @adam-thesportsguy61475 жыл бұрын

    Triple H has historically taken credit for saying “F*ck him if he won’t do business then you do business for him” about Brett and this situation. At the time no one wanted credit for it.

  • @george9822

    @george9822

    4 жыл бұрын

    Adam- The Sports Guy According to Prichard, everyone had the idea to screw Bret, but Cornette was the probably the one who came up with the finish.

  • @stuart3753

    @stuart3753

    Жыл бұрын

    Triple H just wants to be known for any big thing in wrestling. He was never mentioned in being involved in it til years later. He's just try to write himself into history. He'd take credit for Hulkamania, Austin 3:16 and the nWo if he could.

  • @gman2015z
    @gman2015z5 жыл бұрын

    I'm wearing a Bob's Burgers shirt right now haha.

  • @marcwj83
    @marcwj835 жыл бұрын

    On a side note I got to say I still hate to this day the way Eric Bischoff wasted Bret Hart. The screwjob did change the course a professional wrestling Bret Hart heel turn in the year of 97 was the best his character ever been and the state of WCW capitalizing off of that they turn on baby face right away after the Man spent the whole year being anti-American and he still could have had him come in saying that he was still the truth WWF Champion because Shawn never beat him and he defeated Austin twice on major pay-per-views.

  • @jamaaldavis3222
    @jamaaldavis32225 жыл бұрын

    When Bret came back in 97 him and shawn was supposed to have the rematch and Bret was supposed to win then shawn lost his smile he refused to loose to Bret and when they finally had the match Bret was supposed to loose by dq it was on wrestling with shadows he recorded the conversation with Vince either way they screwed my favorite wrestler

  • @nohbuddy1

    @nohbuddy1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Melanie L If Shawn wasn't a prick he would have. Blame Vince for giving him creative control

  • @tonynoto9232

    @tonynoto9232

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@Melanie L Every time I go into it, in every version of the story, I always come out of it siding with Bret. Everyone hated Shawn at the time except HHH.

  • @wolfpacsyxx

    @wolfpacsyxx

    5 жыл бұрын

    Melanie L nope, he had it in his contract and he was willing to lose to anyone else even the Brooklyn brawler, it’s just bs and no one can defend Shawn that’s why everyone calls him and HHH little pussies. Because they are

  • @jamaaldavis3222

    @jamaaldavis3222

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Melanie L you can say he screwed himself because he was loyal to the company and probably should have never had the match he had a feeling that he was going to be screwed bottom line it's fucked up the way they played him on tv when he stayed dedicated and could have went to wcw a year before Bret deserved better Bret carried that company and he built the Austin era he probably would have gave Austin or undertaker the belt

  • @Wooly79
    @Wooly792 жыл бұрын

    Like HBK said: Only Montreal ever talks about is the screwjob

  • @revans100591
    @revans1005915 жыл бұрын

    So he's one of the reasons why the attitude era exist and is the reason why Russo was able to stay in the business long enough to kill WCW and eventually TNA.

  • @takerdust

    @takerdust

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cornette loved wrestling, and unknowingly played a part in destroying it as well.

  • @WR1NetWork
    @WR1NetWork5 жыл бұрын

    This pay-per-view was way before I tattooed WWE on my face for the whole world to see

  • @WR1NetWork

    @WR1NetWork

    5 жыл бұрын

    @John O No I'm a Vince McMahon guy

  • @lookintothecrystalball4588
    @lookintothecrystalball45885 жыл бұрын

    You know what I don't understand, why didn't McMahon solve the problem of Bret not wanting to drop the title to Shawn Michaels, by having Bret drop the title to somebody else. And then that guy drops it to Shawn. Just like the Bob Backlund-Hogan situation. Same thing Backlund didn't want to drop to Hogan. Instead he dropped to The Iron Sheik who drops it to Hogan. At the beginning of the match Vince sends out Sgt. Slaughter the onscreen commissioner at the time (I think). He blah blah blah and either makes it a triple threat with another higher up guy and he wins. Or strips Shawn of the number one contendership and brings out another dude. I dunno it would have been a lot easier.

  • @chrischar9428

    @chrischar9428

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ego

  • @wrayday7149
    @wrayday71494 жыл бұрын

    Lol, there were so many people at fault for this outcome. Vince - For not doing it sooner Bret - For letting it go down to the wire and forcing the situation Jim - For having an idea on a dare

  • @apostolostvable

    @apostolostvable

    2 жыл бұрын

    "This was a heel program here, folks. There were no babyfaces in this scenario" - Jim Cornette

  • @JonasDygd
    @JonasDygd5 жыл бұрын

    There's one thing I don't understand... why would the Hart Foundation hit the ring when Bret has Shawn in the Sharpshooter? I reckon DX was planned to interfere first?

  • @chrischar9428

    @chrischar9428

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup

  • @dariusfortson1727
    @dariusfortson17272 жыл бұрын

    But the years later up until now watching this video and finding out the real actual truth behind the Montreal Double-Cross from Jim Cornette's own words about what really went down involving Bret Hart. This is a really surprisingly unexpected shocker to me for real. And to also find out that Jim is really close friends with Bret "The Hitman" Hart and the Hart Family and that he didn't really want to have anything to do with the double cross finish, but he didn't really have any other choice at all by having to be pressured and backed into a corner by Vince McMahon. And being forced to come up with the idea of screw job finish. OMG Wow I had no idea that he was responsible for the idea and end result. But at the same time I really feel for him and gained more and a new found respect for Jim Cornette that he was man enough to admit that he fucked up and didn't really wanna go along with the idea though. And what we have in common is we hate Vince Russo's guts and the things that he said about him was hella 🔥 hilarious 😆.

  • @harveytyler4869
    @harveytyler48693 жыл бұрын

    I wish you were still in the business with the tennis racket causing trouble and mayhem, thanks for your work and all you did for wrestling. I respect your comments because they are right, thanks again God bless

  • @maxcady360
    @maxcady3605 жыл бұрын

    Now it makes a lot of sense. Cornette, in shoot interviews, kept mentioning that he left before Hebner did. That never made any sense... Until now.

  • @Kronical69420
    @Kronical694205 жыл бұрын

    i havnt heard someone use the word "verklempt" in decades. Hell, youtube or whoever controls the spell correct on here thinks im trying to type "overslept"

  • @dariusfortson1727
    @dariusfortson17272 жыл бұрын

    And one more thing that I really needs to add regarding the whole scenario about the infamous Montreal "Double-Cross" situation. Despite still being in a state of shock about the fact of finish being Jim Cornette's own suggested idea, Was an absolute genius and on top of that really changed the whole entire wrestling game and the course of wrestling history forever. And which also recreated, rewritten and reshaped wrestling and how things are done now, involving finishes especially controversial ones. But nonetheless even though Jimbo suggested different and more simple less complicated controversial finishes to Vince McMahon, But Vince wouldn't even take those advice and suggestions and other alternatives, which really was fucked up. Knowing things could've and should've gone differently for real.

  • @babayagaslobbedaknobba
    @babayagaslobbedaknobba Жыл бұрын

    I wish there was video of Tracy Smothers rampaging out and smashing the artwork and such.

  • @epp6681
    @epp66815 жыл бұрын

    Bret dropping the belt to shamrock instead of michaels, i would have loved to see that, also stone could vs shamrock wrestlemania WOW! Michaels can still retire until 2002

  • @nellyp2622
    @nellyp26225 жыл бұрын

    The whole Montreal Screwjob was a terrible situation. I can see Bret’s stance on not dropping the title in Canada. Here in Canada we love Bret Hart more than Tim Horton’s and free health care. I named my first born son after him. Having him leave and not taking the title off him in advance was a huge mistake though.

  • @dennisbroszinski105
    @dennisbroszinski1055 жыл бұрын

    Dont worry, Corny! We love you...

  • @AvoidTIMtation
    @AvoidTIMtation5 жыл бұрын

    Well we obviously know who one of Dave Meltzer's sources was back in then.

  • @Jacob-jg6cd
    @Jacob-jg6cd5 жыл бұрын

    It’s funny how Jim talks about Dave Metlzer versus Bruce Prichard. Prichard shits all over Dave Meltzer, but now ever since Jim talk to Dave he’s been putting him over.

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