Just realized that the trees in the background are her hands and she's almost puppeteering her friends corpses.
@yeedog6145
Ай бұрын
Some other things to note is that the top of her head looks like that of a spider's mandibles. An animal that dooms others with it's webs. There's also the butterfly iconography. Butterflies in dreams often mean a positive change will come to the dreamer, but considering how things turned out it seems she views herself as the complete opposite. Like a dark butterfly you could say.
@ShudoShrimp135
Ай бұрын
@@yeedog6145 Ohhhh I'll add more to this just for fun because I LOVE this boss, just forgive me over how long it is: From my perspective there's two ways to interpret Lady Ethereal's boss fight 1) Going off of your logic, Lady Ethereal is convinced that she is a spider that slaughtered innocent lives by trapping them in her web of lies in the form of the Vital Sanctums. As @CrispyGFX said her hands are the trees dangling the cocoons of the victims corpses on her fingers. She LITERALLY held their lives in the palm of her hands and continues to "play" with them long after they've died. The fact that this takes place on a theater stage with fake waves going side to side also reinforce the idea that she's done nothing but lie to everyone with a fake persona of benevolence. It's as if everything she's shown, INCLUDING her own guilt and pain, was nothing more than a beautiful display for us to be captivated by. NOTHING is real to her -- not even her own suffering -- and why should it be? She's a spider who convinced everyone she's a butterfly like everyone else after all, and spiders won't feel guilty over killing their victims, right? 2) This one's more disturbing so bear with me. What if those aren't butterflies, but *moths* instead? I say this because you can tell the difference by how they rest their wings -- butterflies rest with their wings closed, moths rest with their wings open (which is what they do on stage and when they emerge from her head). You could argue the ones on stage are butterflies with their wings pinned to the stage, but the thing that pops out of the back of Lady Ethereal's head is definitely a moth dotted with eyes (a defense mechanism most moths have to look intimidating). Which either means Lady Ethereal's head is its cocoon, or if we follow your logic again... A spider's carcass being used to incubate Lady Ethereal's disturbing thoughts. Meaning that Lady Ethereal's guilt was so bad that it became PARASITIC, eating her from the inside out and convincing her that she's a murderer who ensnared innocent people into her web of lies when the reality was far more complicated. It's even worse when you think about how back then in Asia, silk was made using the cocoons of moths, but in the process the moth inside the cocoon would perish and die. Lady Ethereal's sanctums did work as intended, but it worked so well that it led to the death of her friends by keeping them trapped in a never ending dream -- a cocoon of the finest silk. And to top it off, both moths and butterflies are associated with souls of those who pass on and are considered messengers of the dead. Lady Ethereal said so herself that she cut off her support systems so she could die and you could argue we're technically fighting her ghost. She wanted to send one final message to anyone who'd listen. A confession. Seems fitting that the one who hears her call and relieves her from her suffering also possesses a butterfly-like creature as well.
@aephiestarlight
Ай бұрын
@@ShudoShrimp135 it's a butterfly, her name is Lady Butterfly in chinese and it's a reference to zhuangzi's butterfly dream ^^
@ShudoShrimp135
Ай бұрын
@@aephiestarlight Oh excellent!!! Thanks for clarifying!!
@DamageMaximo
17 күн бұрын
ye
@danixyea4463Ай бұрын
I love how you can sometimes hear screams in the background as a way to show how much guilt Ethereal feels towards what she did to her colleagues.
What happened to Lady Ethereal’s colleagues? I haven’t played Nine-Souls, but I do listen to the soundtrack. Reading the comments has made me curious about the context behind this boss fight.
@ResonantChemist
15 күн бұрын
Spoiler Warning: Lady Ethereal is one of the ten Sols, a council of an advanced race. They discovered that the people were infected with a deadly virus, and needed to come up with a plan. The short version is that they wanted to put the people in a dream-like hibernation while they worked on a cure. Her job was to develop this "Matrix" like system. It half-worked; some people it worked for, but others were subjected to extreme torment in their dreams and she felt responsible for it. Moreover, hoping for the greater good, she pushed out her project anyway, and feels responsible for the suffering it caused. This is all the more sad for the protagonist, because Lady Ethereal is one of the only Sols he actually doesn't bear any ill-will towards, yet her own sense of guilt drove her insane.
@etano_luna
12 күн бұрын
@@ResonantChemisthey sorry for that but it’s not entirely correct. The initial soulscape system in Lady Ethereals words was working “way too well”, meaning that the dreams that solarians were seeing while being in the soulscape simulation were so much better than reality that people simply did not want to wake up from it and her first test subjects who were her colleagues simply lost their mind and ended themselves right after the first experiment. She felt responsible for not seeing it through and the reason why she was seeing nightmares was the feeling of guilt and responsibility for what happened. Instead of saying to the council of what happened she decided to lie and say that development was going smoothly because the soulscape system was a big part of the entire Eternal Cauldron project and she felt it was her duty to deliver this project, although she regretted hiding the failure later. Eventually they fixed the system though and it was put in use.
@ResonantChemist
12 күн бұрын
@@etano_luna Sounds about right. I don't remember all the details, so thank you for the correction.
Пікірлер: 90
斷斷續續的吟唱對應她在戰鬥時半夢半醒的抽搐 背景音樂的溫和節奏卻伴隨著痛苦的尖叫聲,象徵她的善意造成了極大的傷害
@sungan_0801
21 күн бұрын
原先他也不願意啟用 是包含主角羿在內的九王給他壓力她才不得不趕鴨子上架,而其中的缺漏仍沒完全修補好,最終就導致蚨蝶的精神崩潰
最喜歡的boss音樂,沒有之一 悲傷到只能墮入瘋狂,因為如果不瘋,根本無法面對那些愧疚。
Just realized that the trees in the background are her hands and she's almost puppeteering her friends corpses.
@yeedog6145
Ай бұрын
Some other things to note is that the top of her head looks like that of a spider's mandibles. An animal that dooms others with it's webs. There's also the butterfly iconography. Butterflies in dreams often mean a positive change will come to the dreamer, but considering how things turned out it seems she views herself as the complete opposite. Like a dark butterfly you could say.
@ShudoShrimp135
Ай бұрын
@@yeedog6145 Ohhhh I'll add more to this just for fun because I LOVE this boss, just forgive me over how long it is: From my perspective there's two ways to interpret Lady Ethereal's boss fight 1) Going off of your logic, Lady Ethereal is convinced that she is a spider that slaughtered innocent lives by trapping them in her web of lies in the form of the Vital Sanctums. As @CrispyGFX said her hands are the trees dangling the cocoons of the victims corpses on her fingers. She LITERALLY held their lives in the palm of her hands and continues to "play" with them long after they've died. The fact that this takes place on a theater stage with fake waves going side to side also reinforce the idea that she's done nothing but lie to everyone with a fake persona of benevolence. It's as if everything she's shown, INCLUDING her own guilt and pain, was nothing more than a beautiful display for us to be captivated by. NOTHING is real to her -- not even her own suffering -- and why should it be? She's a spider who convinced everyone she's a butterfly like everyone else after all, and spiders won't feel guilty over killing their victims, right? 2) This one's more disturbing so bear with me. What if those aren't butterflies, but *moths* instead? I say this because you can tell the difference by how they rest their wings -- butterflies rest with their wings closed, moths rest with their wings open (which is what they do on stage and when they emerge from her head). You could argue the ones on stage are butterflies with their wings pinned to the stage, but the thing that pops out of the back of Lady Ethereal's head is definitely a moth dotted with eyes (a defense mechanism most moths have to look intimidating). Which either means Lady Ethereal's head is its cocoon, or if we follow your logic again... A spider's carcass being used to incubate Lady Ethereal's disturbing thoughts. Meaning that Lady Ethereal's guilt was so bad that it became PARASITIC, eating her from the inside out and convincing her that she's a murderer who ensnared innocent people into her web of lies when the reality was far more complicated. It's even worse when you think about how back then in Asia, silk was made using the cocoons of moths, but in the process the moth inside the cocoon would perish and die. Lady Ethereal's sanctums did work as intended, but it worked so well that it led to the death of her friends by keeping them trapped in a never ending dream -- a cocoon of the finest silk. And to top it off, both moths and butterflies are associated with souls of those who pass on and are considered messengers of the dead. Lady Ethereal said so herself that she cut off her support systems so she could die and you could argue we're technically fighting her ghost. She wanted to send one final message to anyone who'd listen. A confession. Seems fitting that the one who hears her call and relieves her from her suffering also possesses a butterfly-like creature as well.
@aephiestarlight
Ай бұрын
@@ShudoShrimp135 it's a butterfly, her name is Lady Butterfly in chinese and it's a reference to zhuangzi's butterfly dream ^^
@ShudoShrimp135
Ай бұрын
@@aephiestarlight Oh excellent!!! Thanks for clarifying!!
@DamageMaximo
17 күн бұрын
ye
I love how you can sometimes hear screams in the background as a way to show how much guilt Ethereal feels towards what she did to her colleagues.
打到都會先幻聽到那個蚨蝶開場那魔性笑聲惹www
@HazeGold1995
Ай бұрын
歌名回收❤
@user-wo4gx4cc1u
Ай бұрын
難怪我想說少了些東西
@kanon9204
Ай бұрын
那個笑聲超魔性 每次打輸回來都會想聽一次
@user-ij8cd4lh3d
Ай бұрын
她的笑聲很好聽
@user-td7br4np3t
26 күн бұрын
@@user-ij8cd4lh3d但也是最心痛的,因為是絕望且癲狂的笑聲,蛈蝶的處境比康回還要難受....
You know shit's going down when the trailer music hits
這Boss戰的背景音樂真的太好聽了.簡直是天籟.🥰
@user-fl4oy9ey4c
Ай бұрын
推薦星鐵的歌BOSS戰人聲真的很好聽 kzread.info/dash/bejne/q36Mp9eCm73Uaaw.html
"May death be the end to your boundless dream Guiding you back to the waking world."
大概從0:44開始背景出現人的悲鳴叫喚... 一方面很熱血一方面也很毛的一首BGM
魔性的笑聲+有夠掉San值的地圖背景+狗淦難的戰鬥模式,然後配合帶感且掉San的音樂=印象數一數二深的boss戰
@Dminor
21 күн бұрын
有夠掉偵的地圖背景吧
少了蚨蝶的笑聲和叫聲感覺都不完整了 啊,當然銅鑼聲也是必不可少的
這個Boss 的背景音樂是最有感的,大概因為他的心境我感同身受吧
@kanon9204
Ай бұрын
真的 很帶入角色劇情 另外伏羲女媧BOSS戰那首也很讚 蠻創新的融合了京劇+搖滾類元素
浪漫中帶有瘋狂的撕裂感,跟蚨蝶的劇情完美配合
音場極強烈的一曲 超棒的
@aaa801021
Ай бұрын
戴耳機給的回饋感更震撼
My favorite track in the whole game
@user-lich
16 күн бұрын
me too!
@Goat_nin_S-TD
13 күн бұрын
me me 2
其實我比較會想到《MIT台灣誌》的主題曲
@wonwonchin4425
29 күн бұрын
+1,我也一直想到《MIT台灣誌》🤣
@dennis_lee7027
28 күн бұрын
難怪一直覺得很熟悉!原來是MIT台灣誌🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
@a-jhihc.y.i121
14 күн бұрын
唱腔出來瞬間很像
很詭異的氣氛,很有悲傷感,又很壯烈!
@bluewinter0124
Ай бұрын
優美的曲配上斷斷續續的歌聲真的很有蚨蝶那種瘋狂的感覺
這一關的設計都能單獨在做一個動作遊戲了
心疼她要翌傷害自己以此贖罪
打這王第一時間讓我想到神裝少女小纏😂,音樂真的很帶感❤
大家打贏的那一場是不是也都是死到心如止水,熟練到令人心疼的地步, 然後突然發現打贏了😂
@lidio9701
29 күн бұрын
真的 一直卡在蓋亞能量砲那招 知道怎麼解後 一下就過了 哈哈
@菜刀小雞
13 күн бұрын
我反而是越打越喜歡 結果還想多打幾場就不小心過了 一直很想回去重打
@tedlunar
13 күн бұрын
@@菜刀小雞 網路有很多好心人有各王打之前存檔可以去下載,但是要記得先備份自己的。 最後赤燭有說會更新Boss Rush😆
aaaaAaaaA~A~A~A~aaaaAAaaaAaaaaaA~
reminds me of south park's episode with wing Amazing theme. Best boss fight in the game visually and musically
難怪遊戲開頭強烈建議戴耳機
Yi's the coolest.
太讚了吧😭
還是要有哈哈哈哈哈哈才是完整的bgm,不然總覺得少了一味XD
Absolute Mantis Lords
@Uhcip
Ай бұрын
Lost Crown also had a boss like that
@SherseanDofus
Ай бұрын
@@Uhcip Which one ?
@Uhcip
Ай бұрын
@@SherseanDofus The forest one had a phase where a bunch of clones fly at you from either side
@thecaelum7513
Ай бұрын
Sisters of battle more like
真的很有味道,不過人聲的部分讓我聯想到布袋戲【平風造雨-四無君角色曲】 kzread.info/dash/bejne/m52AybKcYKnRh5s.html
@user-uc8jf6sz3c
Ай бұрын
對....我也突然想到四無君XDDDD
@maylovepili
Ай бұрын
四無君加冷灔等於蚨蝶
@chinglun0619
Ай бұрын
"無我不能之事,無我不解之謎, 無我不為之利,無我不勝之爭" 我就是從 四無君 出場的年代開始看霹靂的 懷念啊
@user-fl4oy9ey4c
Ай бұрын
推薦星鐵的歌BOSS戰人聲真的很好聽 kzread.info/dash/bejne/q36Mp9eCm73Uaaw.html
@user-kt1vm6mt4d
Ай бұрын
@@maylovepili對欸,從 1:13 的吟唱跟冷灎的感覺很像呢!
I’m really like this song I am joining this like a nature.😏😊☺️🥰🎶🎼🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵
女聲的吟唱很像霹靂布袋戲裡的一位角色『平風造雨四無君』的人物配樂
猞猁的叫聲是不是靈感之一啊
終於有了
醫生,請問我看到蚨蝶的照片聽到笑聲 我還有救嗎?
一瞬間想說怎麼沒笑聲
人聲有一段好像佛劍分說武戲 超讚
那個A~都會讓我想到張惠妹的一首歌😂
我決定將讚數留在777看有沒有人打破了我再按
霹靂布袋戲的[四無君]+[傲峰十三顛]組成
其實是早期神蠱溫皇出場曲/雨音霜腳色曲(大神 太陽は昇る 2005年東京ゲームショウ プロモーション )和四無君的合體音樂
@honjerry
Ай бұрын
差的有點多
@90106122
Ай бұрын
四無君這部分蠻相似的,但神蠱溫皇這部分真的聽不出來😮
What happened to Lady Ethereal’s colleagues? I haven’t played Nine-Souls, but I do listen to the soundtrack. Reading the comments has made me curious about the context behind this boss fight.
@ResonantChemist
15 күн бұрын
Spoiler Warning: Lady Ethereal is one of the ten Sols, a council of an advanced race. They discovered that the people were infected with a deadly virus, and needed to come up with a plan. The short version is that they wanted to put the people in a dream-like hibernation while they worked on a cure. Her job was to develop this "Matrix" like system. It half-worked; some people it worked for, but others were subjected to extreme torment in their dreams and she felt responsible for it. Moreover, hoping for the greater good, she pushed out her project anyway, and feels responsible for the suffering it caused. This is all the more sad for the protagonist, because Lady Ethereal is one of the only Sols he actually doesn't bear any ill-will towards, yet her own sense of guilt drove her insane.
@etano_luna
12 күн бұрын
@@ResonantChemisthey sorry for that but it’s not entirely correct. The initial soulscape system in Lady Ethereals words was working “way too well”, meaning that the dreams that solarians were seeing while being in the soulscape simulation were so much better than reality that people simply did not want to wake up from it and her first test subjects who were her colleagues simply lost their mind and ended themselves right after the first experiment. She felt responsible for not seeing it through and the reason why she was seeing nightmares was the feeling of guilt and responsibility for what happened. Instead of saying to the council of what happened she decided to lie and say that development was going smoothly because the soulscape system was a big part of the entire Eternal Cauldron project and she felt it was her duty to deliver this project, although she regretted hiding the failure later. Eventually they fixed the system though and it was put in use.
@ResonantChemist
12 күн бұрын
@@etano_luna Sounds about right. I don't remember all the details, so thank you for the correction.
這個的遊戲畫面截圖上有滑鼠啊啊啊(重點錯誤)
@user-lich
19 күн бұрын
哈哈第一版是这样的,后来才隐藏了
感覺人聲音軌銜接破碎,如果清唱抖音部分不知道會不會更優美動人
@nick45145614
Ай бұрын
那也太難唱😂
@user-kx5lv8dp7s
29 күн бұрын
這是要創造出蚨蝶精神錯亂效果才故意這樣調的,是很天才的做法,完美呈現精神混亂時該有的狀態~
@user-ni9tw5no8u
20 күн бұрын
不,這段就是要表現出蚨蝶的精神在清醒與瘋狂之間徘徊的意境
@a-jhihc.y.i121
12 күн бұрын
正好相反,就是要破碎才對