As a kid I was told I couldn’t have a pet because Armageddon was coming and I could have as many dogs as I wanted and could even have wild animals. Later as I got older I got my first dog and was told I would have to be prepared to leave him behind when Armageddon came. I have had several pets since and I have taught me more about compassion than witnesses in the KH.

@jerrychacon8814

13 күн бұрын

Some religions teach that the world is going to be destroyed by fire, then what would happen to all animals? They'd all die, sad. I've had many pets and many of them died, or got run over, then I learned about death which is going to be done away with forever-- REVELATION 20:4

@aaronwood8012

13 күн бұрын

We were told to give up a LOT because the end of days was upon us

@loriwhalen2321

13 күн бұрын

Yup! How crazy.

@Mr.DC3.1914

12 күн бұрын

stop your lies. JWs have dogs, we have dogs.

@ValerieLorna1

11 күн бұрын

Control freaks!!

I’ll say it again… if all the brainwashed witnesses simply READ THEIR BIBLES the watchtower would fall apart inside of a month. It’s absolutely heartbreaking 💔💔🙏🙏🙏

@nonconformist4802

13 күн бұрын

But then it must be a real Bible and not their perverted version

@Steve-yu5pf

13 күн бұрын

At least mormans call their book the book of mormans, Jw’s call their false book a bible. It’s sorta like reading a book on plumbing, trying to learn about how to wire a house.

@pearlytiger564

13 күн бұрын

@@Steve-yu5pflol, exactly! Not to mention the word “Bible” isn’t even on the cover! Can’t even call it a Bible.

@ginaanelli9717

13 күн бұрын

@@Steve-yu5pf The Old Testament books were written well before Jesus’ Incarnation, and all of the New Testament books were written by roughly the end of the first century A.D. But the Bible as a whole was not officially compiled until the late fourth century, illustrating that it was the Catholic Church who determined the canon-or list of books-of the Bible under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Indeed, the Bible is not a not a self-canonizing collection of books, as there is no table of contents included in any of the books. Although the New Testament canon was not determined until the late 300s, books the Church deemed sacred were early on proclaimed at Mass, and read and preached about otherwise. Early Christian writings outnumbered the 27 books that would become the canon of the New Testament. The shepherds of the Church, by a process of spiritual discernment and investigation into the liturgical traditions of the Church spread throughout the world, had to draw clear lines of distinction between books that are truly inspired by God and originated in the apostolic period, and those which only claimed to have these qualities. The process culminated in 382 as the Council of Rome, which was convened under the leadership of Pope Damasus, promulgated the 73-book scriptural canon. The biblical canon was reaffirmed by the regional councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397), and then definitively reaffirmed by the ecumenical Council of Florence in 1442. Finally, the ecumenical Council of Trent solemnly defined this same canon in 1546, after it came under attack by the first Protestant leaders, including Martin Luther.

@jerrychacon8814

13 күн бұрын

What happens when you wash something? You get all the filth and crud out of it.

I left in 90, so didnt raise kids in org. When my wife and i were at my parents, we heard my nephew telling our analytical son ( both abour 5 years old ) that he was going to have a lion as a pet. Our son thought he was crazy and kept saying loudly " You CANT have a lion as a pet !!!!!!" My wife and i laughed so much when we got home . We still laugh about it 15 years later

@Mr.DC3.1914

13 күн бұрын

because the LION in the paradise WON'T HURT , even the baby will play with the COBRA at that time, of course you cannot do it NOW. Isaiah 11:8 The nursing child will play over the lair of a cobra, And a weaned child will put his hand over the den of a poisonous snake.

@RowanTasmanian

13 күн бұрын

Great story mate about the lion, what the WT didn't tell you was that all Professional Lion Tamers would be thrown out onto the unemployment heap as their qualifications are now useless. Not to mention all the folk who work at the Circus. There won't be the Hairiest man in the world, No more three legged men, no more two headed people, Paradise Earth sounds boring and is putting a lot of circus folk out of meaningful employment. I cannot forgive the WT of this cruel ideology against Circus performers.

@Mr.DC3.1914

13 күн бұрын

@@RowanTasmanian so you want IMPERFECTION caused by the original sin. sounds like your father of lies

@Mr.DC3.1914

12 күн бұрын

Isaiah shows even a kid will play with the COBRA. and of course you cannot have that as a pet NOW, but in the paradise you can have them, even the LIONs

@ValerieLorna1

11 күн бұрын

​@@Mr.DC3.1914All animals on earth have a JOB .......who of them wants to be a pet!? How many poor animals are endangered under their cruel owners: Lizards Elephants and Snakes etc encaged in zoos and backyards because some idiot wants a pet!!!

Lol after I got saved, I finally read the entire Bible in context, and this belief according to them was nowhere to be found.

@mattgardiner614

13 күн бұрын

It is very dangerous to ASSUME you are saved. ('Once saved, always saved'?) Ironic that you go on to talk about things not actually being found in the bible.

@BananaR777

11 күн бұрын

​@@mattgardiner614 I'm going to post this from a part previous comment of mine. Ephesians 1:13-14, Ephesians speaks of seal that we that are in Body of Christ bound to The Holy Spirit in, and speak of The Day of Redemption. Of that day according to 1st Thessalonians 4 13-18 The dead body of old person which will be changed to a New Body that death can't not touch nor will sin, on that Day Christ on The Clouds will call The Body of Christ to be with Him. So God promised we that are in the Body of Christ with a seal, if we had to keep the law of sin and death to earn even mantain salvation then no one would be saved. Read the whole chapters Romans 3&4 in light of Ephesians 2:9-10, Galatians Chapter 3 & 5, and finally Hebrews Chapters 9-11. No one righteousness aside from Christ who is blameless.

@misterauctor7353

10 күн бұрын

​@@mattgardiner614???

Pray for the lost sheep in these cultish Freemason based religious organizations. Galatians 1:8

@jmbbk4737

13 күн бұрын

I agree with the Freemason's crafty designs of false religions.

Been a subscriber since the start of your channel (while studying with the JWs for about a year) and consistently revert back to your videos for help detangling the WT lies. Since reviewing your content I wanted to say thank you for your efforts and work in exposing the falsities. Also, want to say thank you for slowing down your rhetoric lol as these videos continue to come out. I use to have to pause them or watch at a slower speed to absorb the wealth of info... I pray daily for one of the best persons i've ever known to wake up and leave this cult. He's an elder of 40 years. He was the first person to put the Bible in my life and for that I am forever grateful. Truly a good man and a God fearing man (just really misguided unfortunately). Use to send him your videos and put pressure on him to "debunk" or "prove" these wrong. Ive stoped trying awhile ago to get him to see Jesus for who Jesus really is and let go to simply pray for his salvation. Keep up the great work!

@Mr.DC3.1914

12 күн бұрын

Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL

@MommaBear-ml5zx

12 күн бұрын

@@cab2-88 This is what Paul debated. Do note that Paul did not debate Jesus was God, BUT the Messiah. Do you know and understand the difference? Jesus has a God, higher than himself, why would you or anyone else not worship the same God Jesus does? For he vigorously refuted his Jewish opponents in public debate, proving from the Scriptures that Jesus was the Messiah. Acts 18:28

@ValerieLorna1

11 күн бұрын

All authority over the earth has been given to our Lord Jesus and King of Kings.... Ask your "teacher" from the Watchtower controlled scripts if HE gets comfort or confirmation of scripture through the HOLY SPIRIT!? I spoke to an elder of this cult on the street a few months back......in all his 46+ years of "witnessing" , he had never ONCE felt the Holy Spirit was in him!!!!!☹️ What is HE telling YOU? IF he was IN Christ: he would have received the HOLY SPIRIT........if he hasn't received the H.S.......then keep away from him!!

@Mr.DC3.1914

11 күн бұрын

@@ValerieLorna1 JWs have the holy spirit - Galatians 5:22 On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith,

@jaredpetersmith914

11 күн бұрын

@@Mr.DC3.1914how can wind or a “force” bear fruit??

7:39 “I don’t know. Because…?” LOL. I keep coming back to your videos for the humor, education, and penmanship.

This video shows how skewed the Watchtower Society's belief about paradise is. Jesus Christ never said anything about restoring paradise to earth. In fact, He said that the old heaven and earth will pass away but His words will remain forever. Thank you for exposing this false doctrine of paradise on earth.

@jerrychacon8814

13 күн бұрын

heaven and earth pass away, means even if the impossible should happen Jesus words would still prove true. JWs adhere strictly to the Bible, Jesus told the criminal or evildoer besides him "truly I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise." Jesus did not say you be in heaven with me today no. Even if that were true Jesus was resurrected 3 days later, Jesus didn't asend to heaven until 40 day later. Jesus was not in heaven that day, So what did Jesus mean? Paradise means a park like garden not heaven. The evildoer will be here on earth as it will be gradually transformed into a paradise and the wicked are no more PSALM 37:10,11; dead are resurrected ACTS 24:15

@simonclarke1383

13 күн бұрын

Not so Jesus said exactly that. Matt 19.28 Jesus said to them: “Truly I say to you, in the re-creation, when the Son of man sits down on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will sit on 12 thrones, judging the 12 tribes of Israel.

@GS-mh6ub

13 күн бұрын

​@@jerrychacon8814I'd implore you to research the history of your organization & stop being led astray like a sheep to the slaughter.

@alans.wendelschafer6588

13 күн бұрын

Anyone else notice how in Luke 23:43 the comma was moved in the New World Translation?

@jerrychacon8814

13 күн бұрын

@@simonclarke1383 Jesus made a new covenant with his disciples they stuck with Jesus, LUKE 22: 19,20,28,29,30. As for the evildoer that was dying besides Jesus he never stuck to Jesus through any of his troubles nor was he there during the last meal and became a part of that new covenant, the new covenant did not become valid until Jesus died, then ascended to heaven 40 days later, and then his followers were anointed with holyspirt at Pentecost 33 CE. the evildoer will not be in heaven, he will be on earth in the what? The scripture says 'Paradise' not heaven LUKE 23:43

So good, thank you! I’m meeting with JWs in a few days to discuss this very topic with them. Praying that the Lord would have mercy on them, and grant that their ears would be opened.

@Mr.DC3.1914

12 күн бұрын

Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL

@vusimngomezulu2500

12 күн бұрын

Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3,1John 4:1..

@Mr.DC3.1914

8 күн бұрын

Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL

Your audio is clear and crisp, and your cadence makes this a delight to have playing in the background. I think you should have great opportunity as an internet radio / podcast streamer. Thank you for publishing this video to bring contrast to the theology of the Christendomic sect of jehovah's witnesses

Praise God! Thank you so much for this explanation. I've been asking Jw's for years about their "paradise earth" explanation and not one of them could explain it to me. You're a blessing. I pray that the jw's see this video and will research the Bible even further. God bless you, and your ministry. 🌿✝️🌿🕊

@HomegrownHydra

13 күн бұрын

@@Mr.DC3.1914 HEY ALL CAPS BOY, YOU JUST CONTRADICTED THE JEHOVAH WITNESS' FALSE TEACHINGS. You are right that that ALL righteous people will inherit the Earth and live here when it is restored. There are no Superduper Extra Righteous people who will live in heaven apart from the Earth and away from the hoi polloi lesser righteous people.

@Mr.DC3.1914

13 күн бұрын

@@HomegrownHydra there will be others who will BE IN HEAVEN to rule with Jesus as kings and priests. REV 5:10

@terridovey7648

13 күн бұрын

@@HomegrownHydra Good afternoon Home!🙂 During the millennium whoever is on earth will be living on a paradise earth. Those who reject Jesus Christ the Lord as their Savior will not make it to heaven, and they will not be able to have God either. So it's very simple... put your faith and trust in Jesus for eternal life in paradise, or don't, and not have everlasting life. Read Revelation 20:11-15. Have a great day! 🌿✝️🌿🕊

@terridovey7648

13 күн бұрын

@@Mr.DC3.1914 Hi there Mr.D! 🙋‍♀️ It's good to see you again. I didn't see what you replied to my post, so I'm going to guess. I don't think you read Rev 5:10 in context. This is after Jesus took the book out of the Father's hand: (vss 8-10) And when He had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. The people in heaven are the people of the OT who truly had faith and believed in God and obeyed the laws. Plus, those who have went to Jesus for forgiveness and salvation of their sins in the NT. And since we are ALL in the NT, under grace and NOT the law, they were, and still are going to heaven for eternity. Jesus said you must be born again to see the kingdom of God. So, during the millennium, the born again Christians will be there as kings and priests. Amen.🙏🙏 God bless you brother, have a great afternoon. 🙂

@jerrychacon8814

13 күн бұрын

PSALM 37:10,11

Thank you for the great video and more food for thought. I was in this all of my life and one thing that always irked me was that the "anointed class" would be in charge of us and we would be forced to teach "resurrected ones" for a thousands years. Then after that, we are ruled by these guys since they will be kings at the table with Christ, or whatever the blasphemous thing they said in one of their recent updates. Since JW broadcasting came to light and the GB were exposing themselves I realized I would not be able to handle these jokers telling me for eternity how to live my life. You are correct, an eternity under their control without God present does not sound like a paradise. I would have honestly rather perished than have to endure that. Now that I have learned the truth of the Gospel it truly is freeing. I have such a better hope now than what the JW were offering.

@b4ph0m3tdk9

13 күн бұрын

GB really shot themself in the foot with the broadcasting. Before, one could imagine them to be out-worldly super geists, but to see and hear them, really dragged them down to the mainstreet. Stephen Letts rubberface, boy, he could be the new Mr Bean, and when he talks it is like it is for children. The others are not better.

DH, my brother, I finally found something that I have disagreement with you. I am one of those that believes Jesus went into Sheol, (or what the Jews historically believed was the "abode of the dead"" that day, but ascended to Heaven when He rose from the dead, on the 3rd day. I believe the scripture says He preached to those in prison, which means those in the grave, and on the 3rd day, He led those believing in Him out of the grave and into heaven then, because He hadn't established heaven for us until then. But guess what? It doesn't matter does it? Nope. What is important is that we both believe WHO Jesus was and IS, and that he was buried and rose from the dead on the 3rd day. None of the other stuff matters. One day, we may know, but when we get there, it STILL won't matter at all, will it? God bless ya brother.

@LightoverDarkMinistry

13 күн бұрын

Exactly! You're still my brother in Christ, under the same grace of the Lord. I pray JW's and others see, we are united on the good news message.

@mattmurdock2868

13 күн бұрын

Good morning Rich....yes Christ first descended to preach the gospel to the dead, visit the spirits in prison, and to take away the keys from Hades and from Death.

@mmltpb14

13 күн бұрын

Love this. Tried saying this to a witness in DH’s last video and it didn’t click with them.

@richbaker7187

13 күн бұрын

@@mattmurdock2868 Me: slapping my forehead.

@dirkfirkle73

13 күн бұрын

I, too, completely agree with your statements.

Perfect! This is exactly the conclusion I have have come to, through an independent and diligent study of the scriptures, since awakening!! I couldn't have said it better! Thank you!

@Mr.DC3.1914

12 күн бұрын

Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL

I ggled when I heard Tony Morris saying , we do not need higher education because in the paradise earth we do not need doctors, and lawyers and so on, but we need construction workers electricians and plumbers............ Do not they say that in paradise we will not be sick ( no rigid winters and scorching summers) we are not afraid of animals they all be friends, no pollution so we do not need plumbers to run water : why we need plumbers , construction workers, etc in the New World.

@93Current

13 күн бұрын

You sound about as intelligible as Tony Morris. Too many Irish Whiskeys?

@danielcolla4530

12 күн бұрын

@@93Current Sorry, but I do not like alcohol and especially whiskey.

@93Current

12 күн бұрын

@@danielcolla4530 Unlike Tony Morris who was filmed buying large quantities of Irish Whiskey. We'll blame your phone then.

@ValerieLorna1

11 күн бұрын

All those BORN on earth will be like the restoration of Abram and Sarah........they will feel pain and a certain amount of hardship in their working days.......they will break arms and legs and have accidents........no one can jump off a cliff and think to survive that fall without the means to protect themselves...... All people born on earth will then sometimes need medicine and help to heal...... Understanding that Abraham and Sarah died eventually!!!

@93Current

11 күн бұрын

@@ValerieLorna1 So 90 year olds will start having children?! Where are you getting this rubbish from?

Armageddon has left the building

13 **DIFFERENT** WAYS ROMANS 10 PROVES JESUS IS JEHOVAH: 1 Below is how the JW’s **New** **World** **Translation** (NWT) renders Romans 10 verses 9 to 16. I’m quoting directly from the **NWT** . Please notice how the same Greek word “KYRIOS” is translated in 4 of the verses: verses 9, 12,13 and 16. 9 For if you publicly declare with your mouth that JESUS is **LORD** [ **KYRIOS** ], and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration for salvation. 11 For the scripture says: “No one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek. There is the same **LORD** [ **KYRIOS** ] over all, who is rich toward all those calling on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of **JEHOVAH** [ **KYRIOS** ] will be saved.” 14 However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him? How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? 15 How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!” 16 Nevertheless, they did not all obey the good news. For Isaiah says: “ **JEHOVAH** [ **KYRIOS** ], who has put faith in the thing heard from us?” Notice how “KYRIOS” is translated two different ways: It is translated twice as “JEHOVAH”, the last 2 times it occurs, in verses 13 and 16. **BUT** it is translated twice as “LORD” the first 2 times it occurs, in verses 9 and 12. If “KYRIOS” should be translated as “Jehovah,” then verse 9 says: “Jesus is Jehovah.” So, looking at the Greek, verse 9 states: we have to declare with our mouths that “Jesus is Jehovah” in order to be saved. ------ Preliminary information necessary to understand points 2 and 3: For the second and third points, you need to know about the Septuagint. The Septuagint was written roughly 200 years before Jesus was born. It’s a translation of the Hebrew Scriptures (the Old Testament) into Greek. And throughout the Septuagint the Jewish scholars who translated it would NEVER write the Name of God - they ALWAYS replaced the name of ‘Jehovah’ with the Greek word ‘KYRIOS.’ Wherever the Hebrew Scriptures have the name ‘Jehovah,’ in the Septuagint they ALWAYS changed that to ‘KYRIOS.’ For example: for religious Jews, probably the single most famous verse in the whole of the Hebrew Scriptures/Old Testament is: ““Hear, Israel! Jehovah is our God, Jehovah is one!” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭6‬:‭4‬ ‭ The Septuagint thus translated this as: ““Hear, Israel! **KYRIOS** is our God, **KYRIOS** is one!” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭6‬:‭4‬ ‭ This is such a core and fundamental verse for religious Jews. It’s called the ‘Shema.’ Many of them pray this verse EVERY SINGLE DAY: ““Hear, Israel! **KYRIOS** is our God, **KYRIOS** is one!” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭6‬:‭4‬ This is just one example. But throughout the whole of the Septuagint it ALWAYS replaces the name of ‘Jehovah’ with the Greek word ‘KYRIOS.’ As time went on, the Septuagint was increasingly used by religious Jews, so that by the time of Jesus it was commonly and widely used and relied upon, so much so that throughout the New Testament the apostles and Jesus Himself quoted mostly from the Septuagint. It’s obvious that’s what they’re quoting from because the Septuagint translates things in an identifiable way, and that’s the exact way that Jesus and the apostles quote them. The authors Archer and Chirichigno list 340 places where the New Testament quotes the Septuagint compared with only 33 places where it quotes from the Masoretic Text rather than the Septuagint (G. Archer and G. C. Chirichigno, Old Testament Quotations in the New Testament: A Complete Survey, 25-32). Consider this: The New Testament has 27 books. It quotes the Septuagint 340 times. And we believe that God and His Holy Spirit is the author of the New Testament - so God decided to do that. Also the early church used and relied upon the Septuagint so much that Orthodox Jews who had been normatively and widely using it for 200 years actually stopped using it in order to distance themselves from Christians and Christianity. This is how closely the early church was identified with the Septuagint. There is no question or doubt among historians that the Septuagint was ‘the Bible’ of the early church. The practice of using the word ‘KYRIOS’ instead of using God’s Name had long since become standard practice by the time of Jesus and the apostles. That’s why in the New Testament in the original Greek it never says God’s Name, ‘Jehovah’ - it always says ‘KYRIOS’ instead - exactly as it does in the Septuagint. Having explained about the Septuagint, now we can start to explain point 2 and then point 3. 2 As an educated Jew and former Pharisee, Paul was an expert in the Hebrew Scriptures as well as in the Greek Septuagint: he quoted the Septuagint very frequently in his letters, and he was more than aware that the Greek word which was always used instead of ‘Jehovah’ was ‘KYRIOS.’ Knowing that, Paul chose to use that Greek word **4** **times** in Romans 10:9-16 and he chose to write in verse 9 and say point blank categorically: “Jesus is KYRIOS.” Paul deliberately gives that title to Jesus - and even more than that: he says it’s a statement which your salvation depends on. 3 Please read this shorter portion of Romans 10 again: 9 For if you publicly declare with your mouth that JESUS is **KYRIOS** , and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration for salvation. 11 For the scripture says: “No one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek. There is the same **KYRIOS** over all, who is rich toward all those calling on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of **KYRIOS** (JEHOVAH) will be saved.” In verse 13, the Apostle Paul is actually quoting directly from the Septuagint (Greek Old Testament), from the book of Joel: “everyone who calls on the name of JEHOVAH [ **KYRIOS** ] will be saved” ‭‭Joel‬ ‭2:32‬ ‭ Paul is quoting from the Greek Septuagint - which doesn’t say ‘Jehovah,’ but always replaces ‘Jehovah’ with ‘KYRIOS.’ Though in the original Hebrew it undeniably says ‘Jehovah.’ So: Let’s look at 2 of those verses next to each other: 9 For if you publicly declare with your mouth that JESUS is **KYRIOS** , and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will **BE** **SAVED** . … 13 **FOR** “everyone who calls on the name of **KYRIOS** will **BE** **SAVED** .” In Romans 10:9 Paul states: if you declare with your mouth [speak] that “Jesus is KYRIOS” you will “BE SAVED” -- and he then directly goes on to quote Joel 2:32 which says: “ **FOR** everyone who calls on [speaks] the name of **KYRIOS** [Jehovah] will BE SAVED;” ‭‭Joel‬ ‭2:32‬ ‭ Undeniable conclusion: PAUL IS QUOTING A SPECIFIC PASSAGE FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT ABOUT **JEHOVAH** AND DELIBERATELY AND PURPOSEFULLY APPLYING IT TO **JESUS** . In the original Greek text of Paul’s Romans 10 there is not the English ‘Lord’ or ‘Jehovah’ - Paul only consistently uses the same Greek word for both Jesus and Jehovah: ‘KYRIOS.’ The distinction between “Lord” and “Jehovah” in the JW’s **NWT** version of Romans 10:9-16 is artificial - it isn’t there in the original Greek text - in Paul’s original Greek text he doesn’t write ‘Lord’ twice and later write a different word, ‘Jehovah,’ twice - no, ALL four times Paul uses the exact **SAME** word in all 4 places: ‘KYRIOS.’ Paul uses the exact same word for Jesus and Jehovah: ‘KYRIOS.’ The thread of his thought about KYRIOS continues unbroken throughout all of these verses. Of course, ‘KYRIOS’ can sometimes mean the equivalent of ‘sir/lord’ (as is sometimes used for humans). But we can know that isn’t the case here because Paul makes it very clear which type of ‘KYRIOS’ he means: In verse 9 Paul uses the Greek word ‘KYRIOS’ for Jesus - and then he immediately makes it explicitly clear which type of KYRIOS he means by deliberately quoting a specific passage from Joel, where ‘KYRIOS’ undeniably means ‘JEHOVAH.’ THAT MEANS JESUS IS JEHOVAH. Combining points 1, 2 and 3: Paul was an educated Jew who was fully conscious of and very aware (as it was widely and commonly known even among uneducated Jews) that the Septuagint always used the Greek word ‘KYRIOS’ instead of ‘Jehovah’ - and, knowing that, Paul used that word **3** **times** in the space of 5 verses (Romans 10:9-13), stating not only categorically that “Jesus is KYRIOS” , but that one MUST speak “Jesus is KYRIOS” in order to “BE SAVED,” and then Paul qualifies that by deliberately and specifically quoting the Septuagint where it says people MUST speak the name of Jehovah/KYRIOS to “BE SAVED.” PAUL IS VERY OBVIOUSLY, DELIBERATELY AND PURPOSEFULLY APPLYING A SPECIFIC VERSE ABOUT **JEHOVAH** to **JESUS** . THAT MEANS JESUS IS JEHOVAH.

@SpielbergMichael

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4 A closer look at verse 9. Check the Greek of verse 9 - it doesn’t say: Jesus is **KYRIOS** . No, it actually says: **KYRIOS** is Jesus. Paul says we must speak: “ **KYRIOS** is Jesus” to BE SAVED. The Greek word ‘KYRIOS’ appears **FIRST** in the sentence - which means it has obvious, natural, self-evident **EMPHASIS** . That emphasis on KYRIOS coming first is yet another confirmation that Paul is not writing about any mere generic random human ‘sir/lord’ but about the already known and self-identifying ‘KYRIOS’ : **THE** *KYRIOS* : JEHOVAH. 5 In verse 9, in context ‘KYRIOS’ can’t mean merely ‘sir’ - it would *NOT* make sense: if you declare with your mouth that Jesus is sir you will be saved. ??? That doesn’t work. Many humans are ‘sir’ and declaring that or believing that doesn’t save you. It would also contradict and make a mockery of Joel 2:32 - it would be saying Joel 2:32 is wrong and irrelevant and you don’t need to call on Jehovah. If Paul had wanted/intended to mean ‘you have to speak the Name of Jesus and say he is ‘sir/lord’’ then it makes absolutely no sense why he then quotes Joel 2:32 - which says you have to speak the Name of Jehovah to be saved. It makes no sense until you realise: oh, Paul actually wrote the **SAME** word ‘KYRIOS’ in both sentences, and is talking about the **SAME** person: In verse 9 he wrote that you must speak the Name of Jesus and say He is KYRIOS in order to be saved - and then in verse 13 Paul said: ‘For/because’ and then quoted Joel 2:32 where it says you have to speak the Name of KYRIOS/Jehovah to be saved. The passage makes no sense (and contradicts itself) unless you read ‘KYRIOS’ in all four places, and unless ‘KYRIOS’ has the SAME meaning in all 4 places. THAT MEANS JESUS IS JEHOVAH. 6 Pay careful attention to verse 12. Paul gives further crucial clarification in verse 12: 9 For if you publicly declare with your mouth that JESUS is **KYRIOS** , and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will **BE** **SAVED** . … 12 There is **THE** **SAME** **KYRIOS** over all, who is rich toward all those calling on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of **KYRIOS** (JEHOVAH) will **BE** **SAVED** .” Verse 12 says: IT IS **THE** **SAME** **KYRIOS** OVER ALL. That means the KYRIOS in verse 9 is *THE** **SAME** **KYRIOS** as the KYRIOS in verse 13. Other scriptures also say there is ONLY **ONE** KYRIOS: “for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and **ONE** *KYRIOS* , Jesus Christ,” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭8‬:‭6‬ ‭ And: “There is one body and one Spirit, just as you also were called in one hope of your calling; **ONE** *KYRIOS* , one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4‬:‭4‬-‭6‬ ‭ And: “ *OUR* **ONLY** Master and **KYRIOS** , Jesus Christ.” ‭‭Jude‬ ‭1‬:‭4‬ Also: Remember the religious and historical background: for religious Jews, probably the most famous verse in the whole of the Old Testament is: ““Hear, Israel! JEHOVAH is our God, JEHOVAH is one!” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭6‬:‭4‬ ‭ The Septuagint translates this as: ““Hear, Israel! **KYRIOS** is our God, **KYRIOS** **IS** **ONE** !” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭6‬:‭4‬ ‭ Notice: “ **KYRIOS** **IS** **ONE** !” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭6‬:‭4‬ Paul, a former Pharisee, was fully aware of this verse in the Septuagint and it’s huge significance. Bearing this in mind it’s worth repeating what Paul then consistently wrote repeatedly in three separate epistles: 1 Corinthians Ephesians + Roman’s 10:9-13: “for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and **ONE** *KYRIOS* , Jesus Christ,” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭8‬:‭6‬ ‭ + “There is one body and one Spirit, just as you also were called in one hope of your calling; **ONE** *KYRIOS* , one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4‬:‭4‬-‭6‬ ‭ + 9 For if you publicly declare with your mouth that JESUS is **KYRIOS** , and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will **BE** **SAVED** . … 12 There is **THE** **SAME** **KYRIOS** over all, who is rich toward all those calling on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of **KYRIOS** (JEHOVAH) will **BE** **SAVED** .” ALSO, compare these verses: 12 There is **THE** **SAME** **KYRIOS** **OVER** **ALL** , who is rich toward all those calling on him. “The word which He sent to the sons of Israel, preaching peace through *JESUS* *CHRIST* (He is **KYRIOS** **OF** **ALL** )” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:36‬ In summation: So when Romans 10:9 says we must speak that “ **KYRIOS** is Jesus” in order to BE SAVED, it is not talking about a mere human ‘sir’ - the text itself specifies that it is talking about **THE** **SAME** **KYRIOS** OVER ALL - the **ONE** *KYRIOS* . The only *KYRIOS* whose name you can call [speak] on to BE SAVED, as Joel 2:32 says: JEHOVAH. The text of Romans 10 itself stipulates that it is THE **SAME** KYRIOS: The **KYRIOS** in verses 9 and 12 is **THE** **SAME** **KYRIOS** in verses 13 and 16. Jews and Christians only have **ONE** **KYRIOS** . THAT MEANS JESUS IS JEHOVAH.

@SpielbergMichael

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8 (part 1) Other New Testament Scriptures give yet even more confirmation that Romans 10:9-13 is saying that calling on the Name of Jesus IS the same as calling on the Name of Jehovah BECAUSE KYRIOS/Jesus is KYRIOS/Jehovah: YEARS BEFORE Saul’s/Paul’s conversion, the Apostle PETER in Acts 2 and Acts 4 taught that the Name of Jesus was the SINGULAR and **ONLY** NAME GIVEN BY WHICH WE MUST BE SAVED and that SALVATION IS IN NO ONE ELSE. First, let’s look at Acts 2: “Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what are we to do?” Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized IN THE **NAME** OF JESUS CHRIST for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. … And with many other words he solemnly testified and kept on urging them, saying, “BE SAVED from this perverse generation!” So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand SOULS.” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭2‬:‭37‬-‭38‬, ‭40‬-‭41‬ In the original Greek of this passage the Greek word for ‘NAME’ is in the **SINGULAR** form. It’s essential to notice that those who were saved didn’t just receive Peter, they received his word about the Name of Jesus. Peter was an officially authorised representative of Jesus, but simply receiving Peter wouldn’t save anyone - one had to receive his words about the Name of Jesus. So it’s not about receiving or rejecting a representative - it’s about receiving or rejecting the word about Jesus. It’s only the SINGULAR Name of Jesus that saves. The Apostle Peter, and the Holy Spirit (who is the author of all Scripture), double down on this and make a further crucial clarification in Acts chapter 4 - this is **KEY** : “let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that **BY** **THE** **NAME** **OF** **JESUS** **CHRIST** the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead… And **THERE** **IS** **SALVATION** **IN** **NO** **ONE** **ELSE** ; for there is **NO** **OTHER** **NAME** under heaven that **HAS** **BEEN** **GIVEN** among mankind **BY** **WHICH** **WE** **MUST** **BE** **SAVED** .”” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭4‬:‭10‬, ‭12‬ ‭ Once again, in the original Greek text of Acts 4 the Greek word for “name” is always in the **SINGULAR** form. So both Acts 2 + Acts 4 are excruciatingly clear as to which **SINGULAR** Name needs to be called on in order to BE SAVED: the **SINGULAR** Name of Jesus. But then Acts 4 goes even further: it also crucially states that THERE IS SALVATION IN NO ONE ELSE + NO OTHER NAME HAS BEEN GIVEN BY WHICH WE MUST BE SAVED. This is the key clarification Acts 4 gives us in verse 12: Acts 4 is NOT saying we have been given multiple names to call on to be saved - i.e. it is not saying ‘Jehovah’ is one option we have been given, and ‘Jesus’ is another separate viable option we’ve also been given because he’s a representative of Jehovah. No, it doesn’t say anything like that. If Acts 4 didn’t include verse 12, Jehovah’s Witnesses could possibly try to make that argument (and they often try to make that argument) - but verse 12 immediately precludes the possibility of that argument by expressly and clearly stating that the singular name/person of Jesus is not a representative of the name/person in whom salvation is - but that the singular name/person of Jesus is the ONLY Name we have been given by which we can be saved and that THERE IS SALVATION IN NO ONE ELSE. That means he’s not a representative of someone else in whom salvation is. Jesus and His Name are not a representative for someone else with a different name by which we can be saved. Acts 4:12 says salvation is in no one else and there is no other name given by which we must be saved. Read it for yourself : Acts 4 gives Jesus’ Name and then states: “there is salvation *IN* *NO* *ONE* *ELSE* ; for there is *NO* *OTHER* *NAME* under heaven that *HAS* *BEEN* *GIVEN* among mankind *BY* *WHICH* *WE* *MUST* *BE* *SAVED* .” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭4‬:‭12‬ ‭ However we also know that the Holy Spirit, using Paul, wrote in Romans 10 the following (quoting Joel 2:32 in verse 13): 9 For if you publicly declare with your mouth that JESUS is **KYRIOS** , and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will **BE** **SAVED** . … 13 **FOR** “everyone who calls on THE NAME of **KYRIOS** ( JEHOVAH ) will **BE** **SAVED** .” Both in the original Hebrew of Joel 2:32 and in the original Greek of Romans 10:13 the Hebrew word for ‘NAME’ and the Greek word for ‘NAME’ are in their **SINGULAR** forms. The Greek word ‘KYRIOS’ is also always in its **SINGULAR** form. Most pertinently, both Joel 2:32 and Romans 10:13 are clear that the **SINGULAR** Name of ‘JEHOVAH’ is necessary to be saved. They don’t say you have multiple different options of calling on 2 separate different nameS (plural) for salvation: they only give one singular name: Jehovah. So: Acts 2 + 4 say you have to call on the SINGULAR Name of Jesus to be saved, and Acts 4:12 states there is salvation in no one else, and that no other name has been given by which we must be saved. However: Romans 10:13 says you have to call on the SINGULAR Name of Jehovah to be saved. That is either a blatant contradiction OR: THAT MEANS JESUS IS JEHOVAH.

@SpielbergMichael

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8 (Part 2) FURTHERMORE: Jesus’ own words, as recorded by the Holy Spirit, provide further clarification on this point. Compare Acts 2 + Acts 4 to Jesus’ own words in Matthew 28 in the Great Commission: “Go, therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in **THE** **NAME** of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28‬:‭19‬ In the original Greek of Matthew 28, the Greek word for “Name” is also in the **SINGULAR** form - it doesn’t say ‘nameS’ in the PLURAL form. This already, by itself, clearly suggests that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit have the same SINGULAR Name: JEHOVAH. But there is other evidence that leads to that same conclusion: Both Acts 2 + Acts 4 **AND** Matthew 28 say only 1 SINGULAR NAME is necessary to be saved. And yet: Matthew 28 says the SINGULAR Name which is necessary and that people should be baptized in is the SINGULAR Name of the Father (JEHOVAH), whereas Acts 2 + Acts 4 say ONLY Jesus’ SINGULAR Name is necessary, and Acts 4:12 explicitly states that **NO** **OTHER** **NAME** is given by which we must be saved, and that there is salvation in no one else other than Jesus (i.e. he is not merely the representative of someone else in whom salvation is). Acts 4:12 is **KEY** . It precludes the false argument that you can call on the name of a representative of Jehovah for salvation. Consider: can you call on the name of the apostle Thomas to be saved? Can you be baptized in the name of James or Peter and be saved? They are officially authorised representatives of Jehovah, but calling on or believing in their names will **NOT** save you. How can Acts 2 + Acts 4 - especially Acts 4:12 - be reconciled with Matthew 28:19 ????? Also, it’s worth pointing out that in Matthew 28:19 JESUS Himself commands His disciples (including Peter) to baptise people in the SINGULAR NAME of the Father and yet Acts 2:38 and Acts 10:48 specifically state that Peter repeatedly baptised people only in the SINGULAR NAME of Jesus. Was Peter blatantly disobeying Jesus ????? Paul also baptised people in the SINGULAR Name of KYRIOS JESUS: “they were baptized in the name of **KYRIOS** JESUS.” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭19‬:‭5‬ ‭ Not only that, but I can’t find recorded anywhere in the New Testament any instance where it says anyone was ‘baptised in the Name of the Father.’ The only way to reconcile all of these things is to understand that the Father and the Son have the same name, and are the same BEING: JEHOVAH. Either Peter (in Acts 2 + Acts 4, especially 4:12) is contradicting Jesus (in Matthew 28) and the Holy Spirit is also wrong for inspiring/writing Acts 2 + Acts 4 (especially 4:12), OR: JESUS IS JEHOVAH. Additional info to prepare you so that you can see through the false arguments from JWs: JWs often quote the following 2 verses, and try to use them in a very superficial way to argue that by accepting or rejecting a representative of Jehovah one can accept/reject salvation. Hence, they want to argue that Jesus isn’t Jehovah but merely a created representative of Jehovah. First: "Whoever receives this young child on the basis of my name receives me also; and whoever receives me also receives the One who sent me." Luke 9:48 But let me highlight the key words, which JWs won’t want you to notice: "and said to them: "Whoever receives this young child **ON** **THE** **BASIS** **OF** **MY** **NAME** receives me also; and whoever receives me also receives the One who sent me." Luke 9:48 Notice how the Name of Jesus is essential. It’s **NOT** talking about accepting someone on the basis of their own name (not Jesus’ Name), and saying that by doing that you are accepting Jesus. You can’t accept Jesus on the basis of someone else’s name. One can only accept Jesus on the basis of the Name of Jesus. As for the final sentence: “whoever receives me also receives the One who sent me." This is totally in keeping with everything I’ve presented in this section (Point 8): The Bible is very clear: Matthew 28 says you have to call on the SINGULAR Name of Jehovah to be saved. Acts 2 + 4 say you have to call on the SINGULAR Name of Jesus to be saved (and that there is salvation in no one else, and no other name has been given by which we must be saved). This apparent contradiction is resolved by Jesus Himself when He states: “I and the Father are ONE.”” ‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭30‬ Jesus isn’t a separate representative of Jehovah - Jesus IS Jehovah. Jehovah is a triune being: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. 3 persons in 1 being. That’s why if you receive Jesus you also receive the Father - NOT because he’s an entirely separate representative, but because they are ONE. Secondly: Another verse that JWs misuse and misrepresent: '"Whoever listens to you listens to me. And whoever disregards you disregards me also. Moreover, whoever disregards me disregards also Him who sent me.” Luke 10:16 The context of this verse from Luke 10 is that Jesus is giving His disciples instructions to go and preach a specific message from Jesus Himself about Jesus. That’s why if people listened to Jesus’ specific relayed message (which was about Jesus) they would be listening to Jesus, and those who disregarded Jesus’ specific related message (about Jesus) would be disregarding Jesus. And because Jesus and the Father are ONE (they are both JEHOVAH), if they listen/disregard to Jesus’ message then they listen/disregard to the Father - because they are ONE (not because Jesus is a mere separate representative). Luke 9:48 and Luke 10:16 are NOT saying that if someone listens to one of Jesus’ disciples/representatives talking about an unrelated topic (e.g. the weather) and accepts that and believes in that disciple’s own name (e.g. Peter), that they are thereby accepting/receiving Jehovah and will thus be saved. No, of course not. It is not by accepting a representative or the representative’s own name - that will do nothing. It is saying if someone listens to one of the disciples’ message/words about JESUS and they accept that message about the NAME OF JESUS, that then they will be accepting JESUS/JEHOVAH and be saved. The JWs fallacious, spurious argument is exposed and refuted by reading the verses they give carefully and in context, and also chiefly by Acts 4:12 and by all the other evidences that Jesus is Jehovah. “there is salvation IN NO ONE ELSE; for there is NO OTHER NAME under heaven that HAS BEEN GIVEN among mankind BY WHICH WE MUST BE SAVED.” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭4‬:‭12‬ ‭ That says no other name has been given by which we must be saved. But Romans 10:13 says another name has been given: Jehovah: 13 **FOR** “everyone who calls on THE NAME of JEHOVAH will **BE** **SAVED** .” Either Acts 4:12 and Romans 10:13 completely contradict each other OR: JESUS IS JEHOVAH.

@SpielbergMichael

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9 Let’s look again at what the JW’s *NWT* says, and this time let’s include *verse* *17* for the *first* *time* , quoting directly: 14 However, how will they **CALL** **ON** **HIM** if they have not put faith in him? How, in turn, will they put faith **IN** **HIM** **ABOUT** **WHOM** they have not HEARD? How, in turn, will they HEAR without someone to preach? 15 How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!” 16 Nevertheless, they did not all obey the good news. For Isaiah says: “Jehovah, who has put faith in the thing heard from us?” 17 So faith follows the thing HEARD. In turn, what is heard is through the word **ABOUT** **CHRIST** Let me draw your attention to 2 verses in particular: 14 However, how will they **CALL** **ON** **HIM** if they have not put faith in him? How, in turn, will they put faith **IN** **HIM** **ABOUT** **WHOM** they have not HEARD? How, in turn, will they HEAR without someone to preach? … 17 So faith follows the thing HEARD. In turn, what is heard is through the word **ABOUT** **CHRIST** Now let me ask you a question: Who is the “him” in verse 14 which says “him *ABOUT* whom” ? The answer of course is: CHRIST - just as verse 17 makes very obvious when it says “ *ABOUT* Christ.” So we know the “him” in verse 14 is Jesus Christ. Ok - so, knowing that the “him” in verse 14 is Jesus, now let’s read verses 13 and 14 together: 13 For “everyone who **CALLS** on the name of KYRIOS / JEHOVAH will be saved.” 14 However, how will they **CALL** on him [ JESUS ] if they have not put faith in him [ JESUS ] ? How, in turn, will they put faith in him [ JESUS ] about whom they have not heard? Clearly the one called on in verse 13 is the *SAME* person which verse 14 then asks “but how will they call on him?” And we already saw that it’s obvious and self-evident that the “him” in verse 14 is JESUS. THAT MEANS JESUS IS JEHOVAH. 10 Other scriptures give even further additional and independent confirmation that the “him” in Romans 10:14 is Jesus. First, a reminder of verse 14: 14 However, how will they call on him if they have not put **FAITH** **IN** **HIM** ?How, in turn, will they put **FAITH** **IN** **HIM** ABOUT WHOM they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? … 17 So faith follows the thing heard. In turn, what is heard is through the word **ABOUT** **CHRIST** Verse 14 specifies a “him” **IN** whom we must have faith in order to be saved. Who is the Christian faith **IN** according to the New Testament ? “faith **IN** Christ Jesus” ‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1‬:‭4‬ (Same author as Romans.) “For even though I am absent in body, I am nevertheless with you in spirit, rejoicing to see your orderly manner and the stability of your **FAITH** **IN** **CHRIST** . Therefore, as you have received **CHRIST** **JESUS** **THE** **LORD** [ **KYRIOS** ], so walk in Him, having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith, just as you were instructed, and overflowing with gratitude.” ‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2‬:‭5‬-‭7‬ ‭ (Same author as Romans.) “everyone who **BELIEVES** **IN** **HIM** receives forgiveness of sins.”” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭10‬:‭43‬ ‭ (Independent author from Romans.) “They said, “ **BELIEVE** **IN** **THE** **LORD** [ **KYRIOS** ] **JESUS** , and you will be saved, you and your household.”” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭16‬:‭31‬ (Independent author from Romans.) “ **FAITH** **IN** **OUR** **LORD** [ **KYRIOS** ] **JESUS** **CHRIST** .” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭20‬:‭21‬ (Independent author from Romans.) “faith **IN** Christ Jesus.” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭24‬:‭24‬ ‭ (Independent author from Romans.) “faith **IN** Jesus Christ” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭3‬:‭22‬ ‭ “and though you have not seen Him, you love Him, and though you do not see Him now, but **BELIEVE** **IN** **HIM** , you greatly rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, obtaining as **THE** **OUTCOME** **OF** **YOUR** **FAITH** , **THE** **SALVATION** **OF** **YOUR** **SOULS** .” ‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1‬:‭8‬-‭9‬ ‭ (Independent author from Romans.) “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who **BELIEVE** **IN** **HIS** **NAME** ,” ‭‭John‬ ‭1‬:‭12‬ (Independent author from Romans.) “The one who **BELIEVES** **IN** **THE** **SON** has eternal life;”” ‭‭John‬ ‭3‬:‭36‬ ‭ (Independent author from Romans.) “Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life… the one who **BELIEVES** **IN** **ME** will never be thirsty.” ‭‭John‬ ‭6‬:‭35‬ ‭ (Independent author from Romans.) Jesus said: “The one who **BELIEVES** **IN** **ME** , as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’ ”” ‭‭John‬ ‭7‬:‭38‬ ‭ (Independent author from Romans.) “Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life; the one who **BELIEVES** **IN** **ME** will live, even if he dies, and everyone who lives and **BELIEVES** **IN** **ME** will never die.”” ‭‭John‬ ‭11‬:‭25‬-‭26‬ (Independent author from Romans.) “these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that **BY** **BELIEVING** you may have life **IN** **HIS** **NAME** .” ‭‭John‬ ‭20‬:‭31‬ ‭ (Independent author from Romans.) “These things I have written to you who **BELIEVE** **IN** **THE** **NAME** **OF** **THE** **SON** **OF** **GOD** , SO THAT you may know that YOU HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭5‬:‭13 (Independent author from Romans.) “a person is not justified by works of the Law but through **FAITH** **IN** **CHRIST** **JESUS** , even we have **BELIEVED** **IN** **CHRIST** **JESUS** , so that we may be justified by **FAITH** **IN** **CHRIST** ” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭2‬:‭16‬ ‭ (Same author as Romans.) Undeniably the CHRISTian faith is emphatically defined in the New Testament as faith “ **IN** “ Jesus. That makes the “him” in Romans 10:14 Jesus. Romans 10:14 is talking about the “him” **IN** whom we must have faith in order to be saved - and the New Testament is crystal clear that that is: JESUS. And as we already observed in point 8: The one called on in Romans 10:13 is clearly the *SAME* person as the “him” in Romans 10:14. No one denies that the person in verse 13 is Jehovah. And we have just seen that the New Testament is crystal clear that the person talked about in Romans 10:14 whom we must have faith “ **IN** “ in order to be saved is Jesus. THAT MEANS JESUS IS JEHOVAH.

@SpielbergMichael

13 күн бұрын

11 If having faith **IN** God the Father was sufficient to be saved, then Jesus wouldn’t have needed to die and rise again, and religious Jews who already had faith in God the Father wouldn’t need to hear about or have faith in Jesus. That means the “him” in Romans 10:14, in whom we MUST have faith in order to be saved, **CANNOT** be God the Father, otherwise Jesus wouldn’t have needed to die and rise again, and religious Jews who already had faith in God the Father wouldn’t need to hear about Jesus or to have faith in him - and we know Paul doesn’t believe that: he teaches that religious Jews NEED to hear about and have faith in KYRIOS Jesus - the whole of the New Testament teaches that is essential. So it doesn’t make any sense at all for the “him” in Romans 10:14 to be God the Father. The “him” in Romans 10:14 therefore **CANNOT** be God the Father. That means that the “him” in Romans 10:14 in whom we need to have faith in order to be saved MUST therefore be: Jesus. “Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me.” ‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭6‬ ‭ “You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.” ‭‭James‬ ‭2‬:‭19‬ ‭ Believing in God the Father isn’t enough. And as we saw in an earlier point, when Peter preached to the religious Jews, he said this: “let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead-by this name this man stands here before you in good health. He is the stone which was rejected by you, the builders, but which became the chief cornerstone. And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among mankind by which we must be saved.”” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭4‬:‭10‬-‭12‬ ‭ Let me highlight: “And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among mankind by which we must be saved.”” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭4‬:‭12‬ ‭ Therefore the “him” in Romans 10:14 cannot be God the Father, and must be Jesus. This (point 11 - that the him in Romans 10:14 CANNOT be God the Father) is now the third separate argument why the “him” in Romans 10:14 must be Jesus - and thus we now have 3 different arguments why the “him” in Romans 10:14 is Jesus (points 9, 10 and 11). These 3 different arguments support and confirm each other. And the conclusion of all three points 9, 10 and 11 is the same: if the “him” in Romans 10:14 is Jesus, then in conjunction with Romans 10:13 THAT MEANS JESUS IS JEHOVAH (because we’ve already seen that verses 13 and 14 are clearly talking about the *SAME* person). 12 *Point* *9* - showed that from the context of Romans 10:14-17 it’s clear that the “him” in Romans 10:14 is obviously Jesus. (And we used Romans 10:13 to prove/conclude that the “him” in verse 14 is necessarily Jehovah. Thus, Jesus is Jehovah.) *Point* *10* - showed that Romans 10:14 and the whole of the New Testament repeatedly and clearly teach that the “him” “ **IN** “ whom we MUST have faith in order to be saved is undeniably Jesus. (And we used Romans 10:13 to prove/conclude that the “him” in verse 14 is necessarily Jehovah. Thus, Jesus is Jehovah.) *Point* *11* - showed that the “him” “ **IN** “ whom we MUST have faith in order to be saved CANNOT be God the Father and must be Jesus because otherwise religious Jews wouldn’t need to hear about Jesus or have faith **IN** him. (And we used Romans 10:13 to prove/conclude that the “him” in verse 14 is necessarily Jehovah. Thus, Jesus is Jehovah.) Points 9, 10 and 11 **ALL** separately showed that the “him” in Romans 10:14 *WHOM* *WE* *MUST* *HAVE* *FAITH* **IN** is incontestably: JESUS. **BUT** : “Cursed is the man who puts his trust **IN** mere humans” Jeremiah 17:5 This means Jesus cannot be a mere man. Indeed the WHOLE of the Old Testament consistently and repeatedly says there is only one LORD / KYRIOS and you can and must **ONLY** have faith **IN** the one true LORD / KYRIOS: JEHOVAH. THAT MEANS we don’t even need to use Romans 10:13 to prove/conclude that the “him”/JESUS in verse 14 IS JEHOVAH. Points 9, 10 and 11 all used Romans 10:13 to show/prove/conclude that the “him”/Jesus in verse 14 is JEHOVAH. Point 12 is that the WHOLE of the Old Testament proves/concludes that the “him”/JESUS in verse 14 must be JEHOVAH. Recap / summary: In context, Romans 10:14 says we MUST have faith **IN** KYRIOS Jesus in order to be saved. The WHOLE of the Old Testament says we can only and must only have faith **IN** the only true KYRIOS: JEHOVAH. THAT MEANS JESUS IS JEHOVAH.

Also they teach that they will be teaching all before Christ about Jehovah and Jesus in the millennium. There is no teaching like that..... Hebrews 8:8-11 KJVS For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: [9] Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. [10] For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: [11] And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

Impressive researched content presented in only 13 min. I tip my hat.

No JW has ever answered my question "will there be toilets in this new Paradise Earth and who gets to clean those toilets FOREVER and who will be working at the Sewage Plant FOREVER ? Will it be one of the Governing Body ?? I doubt it. This does not sound like a Paradise Earth to me.

@Mr.DC3.1914

13 күн бұрын

so you think that PERFECT humans cannot invent with the help of GOD and Jesus something that will automatically cleanse your dump to be environmentally clean? and you think you need sewage plant for that?

@richbaker7187

13 күн бұрын

Rowan my friend, good to hear from you. I have been in and out lately, getting my folks situated here in Tennessee. And wouldn't you know it, the first comment I read makes me laugh out loud. What is funny, is that since the JW's are full of crap, somebody needs to answer that question, honestly. LOL.

@RowanTasmanian

13 күн бұрын

@@richbaker7187 G'day Rich, always nice to hear from you. I have asked DC3 if he would volunteer to clean my toilet FOREVER. It would be a small token for all the Crap he has given to everybody. I hope your folks are doing well. This doctrine of paradise earth is so ridiculous that I can't take it seriously and will have some fun with it. Some good news Rich, my finger which I nearly lost in a chainsaw accident is 95 percent healed and my hand therapist is ecstatic over my fast healing. Now playing the guitar again and all mistakes being made are becoming less and less each day. I wonder if Angus Young from AC/DC will be playing guitar in this silly Paradise Earth ???? Or will it be only Hank Marvin from the Shadows playing. (He's a JW) Stay well my friend and thanks for the laugh.

@richbaker7187

13 күн бұрын

@@RowanTasmanian You are a ray of sunshine there Rowan. Always able to make me laugh, while reading thru the mindless drivel of DC and other trolls.

@Karl-dd4om

13 күн бұрын

@@RowanTasmanian Why is the doctrine of paradise earth ridiculous? Well God created Adam and Eve to live in the Garden of Eden! Are you an Atheist?

Thank you for your content 🙏

Paradise earth in JW theology was invented in 1935 due to the circumstances of running out of 144K Bible Student members at the time. This is the problem with doctrine. It constantly has to be fixed.

@eyeswideopen8570

12 күн бұрын

Exactly! The 144K membership was full according to them by 1935! Before that date they all believed they were going to heaven. I am 3rd generation, I remember my mom explaining this to me.

@GODHEAD_FATHER_CHRIST_HOLYGHOS

12 күн бұрын

Glad people are learning the false teachings of Jw WT Inc. They want to grow the Business into a massive one with more and more money coming in. that is why the group that works for them goes around trying to promote the interest of their corporation. The more people they can sway away from their denomination and pull them into their cult the more lucrative and highly profitable business they can grow,

Thank you for helping me clear the cobwebs of lifelong indoctrination from my brain!

Remember unsaved only get destroyed, not eternal torment.

Wow you learn something new everyday!!

Thank you brother

all my life i heard the term the Meek shall inherit the Earth !! ( Psalm 37:11 ) reads " But the meek shall inherit the earth; And shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. " Always wondered what that meant if everyone is going to Heaven or Hell only !

@misterauctor7353

3 күн бұрын

Read the context?

The comment below being listed proves my point that somehow some of these JWs are blocking comments. If any of you are having trouble, please contact me. ( a person who will not be cleaning toilets FOREVER on Paradise Earth)

@Mr.DC3.1914

11 күн бұрын

And from a person who thinks ONE WIFE = THREE WIVES. o my

@RowanTasmanian

11 күн бұрын

@@Mr.DC3.1914 Go and clean some toilets forever oink oink

@thehappy3750

7 күн бұрын

Hello my friend :) are you the guy who wants to use the name YAHWEH as the international name of God even thought we have ENGLISH :) how's your study of Hebrew :)

@RowanTasmanian

7 күн бұрын

@@thehappy3750 G'day. It's not just me who insists Yahweh is the most accurate name for God, it's basically the whole of the Hebrew Scholarship that I agree with. As everyone knows (in the educated sphere) Jehovah is an erroneous rendering of God's name. Just plain wrong. As far as my Hebrew studies go, I have only completed 8 months formal study. Jehovah is just being used by the Witnesses as a branding exercise. The commercialisation of God's "name" to be used by a publishing company to make money is another low created by Rutherford and his cohorts. I hope that answers your questions. Thanks.

@thehappy3750

7 күн бұрын

@@RowanTasmanian I agree YAHWEH is the most accurate name for God since the name of God is HEBREW,and the English name of God ( JEHOVAH) is accurate also because it was the translation of HEBREW- ENGLISH . Now if you want the people to use the HEBREW name you must change the ENGLISH as the international language to HEBREW as the new international language. But you can't right ? So it's better to use the international name of God because most of the people use English including you isn't ? It does answer the question but it doesn't satisfy my hunger for knowledges my friend.

I haven’t had a mai tai in ages … think I’ll have to order one. But do love the beach - headed there now.

Beautifully articulated.

This video is skewed, Job is applying to Job , this video is so off

@misterauctor7353

10 күн бұрын

???

I wish i could get my family away from this organization.

@jahtruthdefender

8 күн бұрын

Why? In the future you may well be seeking to be amongst them. That’s a good thing not bad

@Thespeedrap

8 күн бұрын

@@jahtruthdefender WHY did you say that? Are you a member?

@jahtruthdefender

8 күн бұрын

@@Thespeedrap Sometime soon you are going to see if they remain they were right all along. Yes now what difference does knowing that make.

@thehappy3750

7 күн бұрын

​@@jahtruthdefenderhe doesn't have much understanding about the bible ,that's why he was easy to sway away by others religion. That is dangerous. We are brothers :)

@jahtruthdefender

7 күн бұрын

@@thehappy3750 Yes and very regrettable

This makes me SO sad still after 15 years. I can’t accept it. 😢

@jadekelly6336

12 күн бұрын

Could you tell me what you mean do you mean you can’t accept that you may have been divorced or do you mean you can’t accept that we go to heaven, I’m just curious as I’m recently learning all this after leaving the jw x

@Hereforthelove

12 күн бұрын

@@jadekelly6336 I can’t accept that we don’t have a paradise where I can have any animal I want. I struggle with leaving this world because I find so much beauty in it and could see myself living forever here under perfect conditions. So many aspects that aren’t or were never true, I find hard to accept. Where do I go now?

@astridmiller7938

11 күн бұрын

@@Hereforthelove try roaming other planets

Rev.21:3 says look the tent of God is with mankind and he will reside with them and they will be his people .And God himself will be with them.

Weird, how people manipulate and trade dignity for acceptance.

Waiting to see if you mention the part where they believe paradise is created when the governing body become avenging angels and go door to door killing people including christians who aren't witnesses, and then the witnesses clean up the mess and move into the dead peoples houses. Edit: If you think im joking, i have bad news for you. Double edit: "i killed them all, not just the men, but the women and children too. They're like animals, and i killed them like animals!" -anakin skywalker, also tony morris post paradise. Never a good sign when you can attach a darth vader quote to your ideology.

Jehovah's witnesses you should be ashamed of yourselves.

@moseslivingstone1258

13 күн бұрын

Why?

@mattgardiner614

12 күн бұрын

Nope. Not ashamed at all. and nor should I be. "For I am not ashamed of the good news; it is, in fact, God’s power for salvation to everyone having faith,..." (Romans 1:16)

@MommaBear-ml5zx

12 күн бұрын

@dannydawe8332 those who call Jesus a liar should be, for Jesus clearly stated Thomas' God was the same as his God (John 20:17).

@MR-gx3gc

11 күн бұрын

@@mattgardiner614 to your paramount comment from MrDC.3.1914: Even M a t 5 : 5 s hows the meek ones will I N H E RI T T H E E A R T H a nd Not just the land of Israel. and you think that MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people will only LIVE FOREVER in the LAND of ISRAEL? so, no, it is NOT referring to just a section of LAND, it is talking of the WHOLE EARTH. Genesis 9:1 -------------------------------------------- The interpretation you advocate is incompatible with the message of Jesus, if one takes the trouble to evaluate his speech coherently. First, Jesus addressed the messages in his speech not to two different groups of his disciples, but to a single group of his disciples. Jesus did not distinguish between two groups of his disciples in any of his speeches. On the contrary. Jesus has indiscriminately promised the same blessings to all his followers. (John 5:24) The same principle applies to Jesus' statements in his famous Sermon on the Mount, which you mentioned in your commentary. In order to underpin the authenticity of this interpretation, I would like to ask you to comment on the following questions, which are directly related to these statements of Jesus. Matthew chapter 5 ( N W T Study Edition) 1 When he saw the crowds, he went up on the mountain; and after he sat down, his disciples came to him. 2 Then he opened his mouth and began teaching them, saying: 3 “Happy are those conscious o f t h e i r s p i r i t u a l n e e d , since t h e K i n g d o m o f t h e h e a v e n s b e l o n g s t o t h e m . 4 “Happy are those who mourn, since they will be comforted. 5 “Happy are the m i l d - t e m p e r e d , since they will i n h e r i t t h e e a r t h . ====================================================================== 6 “Happy are those hungering and t h i r s t i n g f o r r i g h t e o u s n e s s , s i n c e t h e y w i l l b e f i l l e d . 7 “Happy are the m e r c i f u l , since they will be shown mercy. 8 “Happy are the p u r e i n h e a r t h s i n c e t h e y w i l l s e e G o d . ================================================================= 9 “Happy are the p e a c e m a k e r s , s i n c e t h e y w i l l b e c a l l e d s o n s o f G o d =================================================================================== 10 “Happy are those who have been p e r s e c u t e d f o r r i g h t e o u s n e s s ’ s a k e , since the K i n g d o m o f t h e h e a v e n s b e l o n g s t o t h e m . 11 “Happy are you when people reproach* youm and persecute youn and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. 12 Rejoice and b e o v e r j o y e d , s i n c e y o u r r e w a r d q i s g r e a t i n t h e h e a v e n s , for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you. What elements will one day make up the inheritance that is promised equally to all followers of Christ? The new earth and the new heavens, or just the new heaven. (Ephesians 1:1-14, Revelation 21:1, 2 Peter 3:10-14) Questions to the Bible scholar ========================== 1.) In your opinion, are the apostles Peter and Paul and the other first disciples of Jesus such as Timothy and Luke not to be classified as "meek", but only you and your confreres today? 2.) Are the meek ones to be strictly distinguished from the "peacemakers" and those who are "pure in heart" mentioned in verses 8 and 9? 3.) Will only the disciples of Jesus, who are peaceable and pure in heart, be called children of God and will be allowed to see God, but not the "meek ones"?

@misterauctor7353

10 күн бұрын

@Mattgardiner614 You should be as you're a cultist.

What are the meek said to inherit? I'm divided on this subject, but if we all do our best to please the Almighty then one day we shall all see what the truth of the matter is. But I pray that all who love God will achieve paradise, wherever that may be.

Matt Gardiner new thread Matt, please answer the 2 remain questions have have raised so many times. You are really avoiding the issue and please refrain from telling me who I may speak with. This is a tactic used by people in counselling when they want to avoid scrutiny. I ask again that you focus on the 2 questions about the NWT translation committee and how many times the WT quoted Greber after they knew he was a Spirit Medium. Matt, just answer these questions. The avoidance over these weeks to avoid these questions is very startling, but is the same with every Witness. *****please please please and read these words many times. Only give me these 2 answers and no more diversions.******* Please answer these 2 questions and no more sidetracking.

@mattgardiner614

5 күн бұрын

Rowan, for goodness sake... Yours from one month ago under the 'Sound the Alarm' video: "Thanks Matt, I'll use a pro forma to set out the details. We use these in counselling only to ascertain the truth of a matter... 3)Were there any times that the WT, after knowing Greber was a Spirit Medium quoted Greber as a source for their translations of the NWT?" MY RESPONSE: "3) Not to my knowledge as "Source for the NWT", but verses from his translation were used 1962 (The Word: Who is he according to John?), 1971 (Aid to Bible Understanding), and w/75/10/15 and 76/04/15." PRIOR TO THAT, under the same video, I wrote: "There are 8 entries if you type 'Johannes Greber' into the website. The oldest is a WT from 1955, and the most recent is the 'Questions from Readers' I quoted you earlier, from 1983. (I sent the link in my last attempt to reply, which could be another reason it was taken down) His translation seems to have been used not just in regards to the John 1:1 controversy, but also frequently in regards to Matthew 27:51-53 to debunk the commonly held view in Christendom that that passage is describing a mass resurrection...The last time WT used him as a source was 1976 in an 'Insight on the News' column." You also asked "10) Please advise the members of the NWT and their qualifications" and I REPLIED "10) As stated MANY times before, I DO NOT KNOW. I am not the Librarian, Historian or Archivist for WT. The NWT Translation committee was set up in the 1940's and remained anonymous. Likewise the committee that revised the NWT in 2013." You replied chastising me for not following the 'pro forma' format, even though you wrote me that I was allowed " a very brief response", and I replied to that "I tried to play the game. But honestly, this all seems designed to railroad me into a set of predetermined answers. At certain points, some could even reason you doubt my honesty. For example: Why do you keep asking me who the NWT translation Committee were/are, and about their qualifications? I've repeatedly told you I don't know. Don't you believe me?" You followed with an apparently conciliatory "I am sorry that my words in any way conveyed you were a liar. That never ever crossed my mind." So - trying to have your cake and eat it to - you on one hand accept that I'm telling the truth that I do not know, but on the other hand keep pressing me for an answer anyway !!! The questions on Greber, as I have shown here, and as anyone can see if they look under the 'Sound the Alarm' video, have been - more than once- thoroughly answered. THIS IS WHY I compared you to MR. He too was in the habit of accusing me of not answering questions. So much so that I had to take the extreme step of cataloging EVERY SINGLE interaction that I had with him, so that whenever he would do so I could quickly look it up and prove him wrong. You are, of course, free to talk to anyone you like. I would just hope that you don't pick up his bad traits.

@MR-gx3gc

4 күн бұрын

@@mattgardiner614 Excuse me for interfering in the discussion that has been going on for weeks now. In fact, you have not been able to give me a satisfactory answer to any of my questions which I have repeatedly asked you. On the other hand, it should not have escaped your notice that the remarks in my contributions to you refute the core teachings of the WTS. How can you presume to claim the opposite? Above all, however, your current response to Rowan's repeated questions reveals your deep-rooted indifference to THE TRUTH. Otherwise, you yourself would be inspired by the ambition not to rest until the WTS has given you an account of who is responsible for translating what is supposedly the most accurate version of the Bible in the world. The fact that this information is being kept secret from you as a member of the Watchtower Society shows in a frightening way that the Watchtower Society refrains from divulging this information for good reason. In this case, it would be obvious to anyone that the members of the Translation Committee concerned were not authorised to perform this honourable duties because they did not possess the necessary linguistic qualifications. What other reasons should prevent Watchtower Society from disclosing this essential information? The fact of persistent secrecy is tantamount to an admission on the part of the Watchtower Society that this particular allegation by critics of the Watchtower Society's teaching is not to be classified as a mere rumor? Above all, your attitude reveals that you are not aware that the prologue in the Gospel of John is to be classified as one of the key texts of the New Testament. I would therefore like to give you another opportunity to take note of my following remarks on this topic and to comment on my subsequent question, which inevitably results from a conscientious textual analysis. Against this background, I assume that we agree that John did not want to reveal to us in the prologue of his Gospel that before the incarnation of the "Word" in heaven there was a second God in addition to the one true God, since the Bible is based on the inalienable principle of monotheism. Are you aware of the elementary fact that, according to the biblical testimonies, before the birth of Jesus two thousand years ago, only the God YHWH and his heavenly creatures, i. e. the angels, existed in the heavenly spheres? Consequently, the Bible distinguishes only two categories in this regard, namely, the one Creator God YHWH and all his creatures. An additional category is not mentioned in the Bible. In this sense, the angels, who are usually referred to as "gods" because of their prominent position, are also to be assigned to the genus of the "creatures of this one God YHWH". Why did John identify the "Word" before his incarnation with the Greek term for "God" ("theos") in the most prominent passage of his gospel, when he actually wanted to reveal to us, according to the official teaching of the Watchtower Society, that the "Word" existed as an "angel" in heaven before his incarnation? Against this background, the question inevitably arises as to how the Watchtower Society can justify its translation version "a god" when, according to biblical teaching, only one true creator God, namely YHWH, existed before the birth of Jesus. Question to the Bible teacher ======================== In what sense did John choose the word "theos" in the prologue of his Gospel according to your theological conviction? In the sense of the "One Creator-God YHWH or in the sense of a "mighty one", as the angels are usually called? Since the messages of the Bible are intended for all people, I beg you to leave aside the explanations of secular scholars.

@RowanTasmanian

4 күн бұрын

@@mattgardiner614 Matt, I have been asking you questions about Greber since May 6. Check it out. That makes it almost 10 weeks Matt 10 weeks You have answered questions 1 and 2 but after many weeks but not question 3 Also you conveniently left out of your notes when I have sought an answer on the "Translation Committee and their qualifications was the bible tells us to Test every thing. Remember that Matt. You have not tested any and I mean any of their claims. Not one. 1)So let's not get sidetracked and just answer my question on Greber 2)Test the claims of the NWT "translation Committee" Test these claims Matt. The bible commands you to Test ALL Things. Finally, for you to quote from the NWT and 1)not know who translated it 2) what their beliefs were 3) even the strong possibility that it is Demonic in origin 4) it was translated by Atheists 5) they couldn't read Hebrew or Greek 6) were frauds demonstrates you have not got the slightest clue where you get your doctrine from. The bible says to test all things Matt says It's all too hard. Sorry Matt, I need answers that have not been provided. Thanks.

@mattgardiner614

4 күн бұрын

@@RowanTasmanian Are you just goading now? Put your glasses on, and take another gander. "You have answered questions 1 and 2 but after many weeks BUT NOT QUESTION 3" Is that right Mr. Magoo? "3)Were there any times that the WT, after knowing Greber was a Spirit Medium quoted Greber as a source for their translations of the NWT?" " 3) Not to my knowledge as "Source for the NWT", but verses from his translation were used 1962 (The Word: Who is he according to John?), 1971 (Aid to Bible Understanding), and w/75/10/15 and 76/04/15." PRIOR TO THAT, under the same video, I wrote: "There are 8 entries if you type 'Johannes Greber' into the website. The oldest is a WT from 1955, and the most recent is the 'Questions from Readers' I quoted you earlier, from 1983. (I sent the link in my last attempt to reply, which could be another reason it was taken down) His translation seems to have been used not just in regards to the John 1:1 controversy, but also frequently in regards to Matthew 27:51-53 to debunk the commonly held view in Christendom that that passage is describing a mass resurrection...The last time WT used him as a source was 1976 in an 'Insight on the News' column." That's THRRREEEEE!!! 3= three. I answered - what number? - Number 3.

@RowanTasmanian

4 күн бұрын

@@MR-gx3gc absolutely brilliant M R. If you don't mind, I will grab the question you put to Matt, which is so eloquently written "The fact that this information is being kept secret from you as a member of the Watchtower Society shows in a frightening way that the Watchtower Society refrains from divulging this information for good reason." I will pose the question that way also. Well done my friend. Great apologetics.

Vegetarian JW paradise ;) Interestingly, they usually show only vegetarian food. There is so much wrong with the idea of paradise. Thanks for this video.

@thehappy3750

7 күн бұрын

Why not prove it to me :)

@SeekingTruth2023

7 күн бұрын

​@thehappy3750 what do you mean? Why their concept of paradise is wrong? Or something else?

@thehappy3750

7 күн бұрын

@@SeekingTruth2023 why their concept of paradise is wrong :) Prove it to me my friend :)

@SeekingTruth2023

7 күн бұрын

@@thehappy3750 That is quite a huge topic though. May I ask, are you a JW?

@SeekingTruth2023

7 күн бұрын

​@@thehappy3750 do you disagree with anything from this video?

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Jws will enjoy their vegetarian paradise 😂

Yep yep yep and YES. Amen

Greetings Light over Dark Ministry: What is you opinion of the following Bible teachers. John MacArthur----Ray Comfort----Paul Washer?

@LightoverDarkMinistry

13 күн бұрын

All three are good man of God, as far I know, I don't know them personally. Each has a different style of evangelism, and I know Washer and MacArthur are both Calvinists, and while I might disagree with them on 1 or 2 topics, they preach the same gospel Ray does, and they all do it well.

Your voice sounds like the guy from Comicstorian which recently passed away RIP.

@LightoverDarkMinistry

11 күн бұрын

Now that you mention it, I can’t not hear it.

What a screwed up group of people!

Did the channel address Psalms 37:29?

@misterauctor7353

12 күн бұрын

It's about Jews.

I was raised a JW so my view of what happens in the future is muddled but what happens when Jesus returns? Do the saved go to heaven for 1000 years and then are brought back to earth as a perfect human again? And what does it mean that Satan is released after the 1000 years are over? Are there rebellious humans still on earth during the 1000 years that Satan will mislead?

@jerrychacon8814

13 күн бұрын

First make it there...

@diannelesley1954

13 күн бұрын

​@@jerrychacon8814JW's never ever stated that the righteous & unrighteous will go to heaven for a tbousand years, thereafter return to the earth as perfect humans You obviously didn't understand what is taught when you followed the JW's weekly meetings!

@benjamint8073

12 күн бұрын

@@diannelesley1954 Respectfully, I didn't say that is what Watch Tower teaches. I was just saying that I am confused in general in what is going to happen when Jesus returns and afterwards. I am just trying to piece together what the Bible says will happen. I don't trust the Watch Tower interpretations so I wanted to see what others interpretations are. I know there is this 1000 year period. I believe there is only one hope. I believe ultimately every human will live on earth etc. But I have a bunch of questions on specifics like where Satan's release from prison fits in and so on. :)

@thehappy3750

7 күн бұрын

You are raised by your jw parent and you don't know the answer for that my friend ?

@jerrychacon8814

7 күн бұрын

@@diannelesley1954 righteous and unrighteous are to be resurrected to earthly life ACTS 24:14. No unrighteous person can enter heaven.

You truly skipped the fact that there is no real evidence that Jesus went directly to heaven right after he died. Even if his spirit were his immortal spirit, saying to God that he entrusts his spirit does NOT mean that right away, that spirit went to heaven. You make a false claim, as though it's true, and then use that to base your next point, which is just using fallacy as an argument. Your listeners are probably smart enough to figure that out.

@lionegberts

13 күн бұрын

At Ascension Jesus rose up to heaven sitting at the right hand of the Father, not after his death. I think that he rushed to swiftly when pointed out his view on the subject.

@RuggedCross1

13 күн бұрын

He went to Sheol (Abraham's Bosom) when He died. This Paradise wasnt heaven it was the abode of the righteous dead before Jesus' sacrifice freed them

@lionegberts

13 күн бұрын

@@RuggedCross1 you are correct. Acts 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. This was after His ressurection.

@RuggedCross1

13 күн бұрын

@@lionegberts Jesus went to heaven only after the 40 days after His resurrection

@misterauctor7353

13 күн бұрын

What false claim.

Merci mon frère en Christ!! Et merci Seigneur Jésus de m’avoir libérée des griffes de cette secte. Priez pour mon papa svp qui ne me parle plus depuis.

@theresefournier3269

13 күн бұрын

Désolée! Mais ça aussi, ça và passer! Courage! Prières! Amour! Joie! Paix! 💯💛❣

I like the channel new subscriber I'm about to watch all the videos

“For ‘whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved’” (Romans 10:13). What is “the name which is above every name”? The answer is given by the prophet Isaiah. “Behold, God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid; ‘For Yah, the Lord, is my strength and song; He also has become my salvation’” (Isaiah 12:2 NKJV). Where did the name YAH come from? First, did you know that the name Jesus has only existed since the 17th century? Therefore, God never revealed the name Jesus, nor did the apostles ever know Him by the name Jesus. But what of the name YAH? We look to Moses. “Then Moses said to God, ‘Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?’ And God said to Moses, “HaYAH Ashar HaYAH” [meaning: “I AM WHO I AM”]. And He said, ‘Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM {YAH} has sent me to you.’ Moreover, God said to Moses, ‘Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations’” (Exodus 3:13-15). “HaYAH” means “the I AM” YAH is “the name which is above every name.” YAH, I AM, in Hebrew is יָהּ Therefore, it is HaYAH, “The I AM.” Not Ehyeh. Yeh, or Jehovah are false names never revealed by God. Since the apostles never knew the name Jesus, which was placed by man into the New Testament, and not according to the revelation of God, we need to put back the revealed name of the Savior. Is this name YAH a part of the Savior’s name? The apostle Paul assures us of “the name which is above every name,” as part of Christ’s name. He testified, “While thus occupied, as I journeyed to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests, at midday, O king, along the road I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, shining around me and those who journeyed with me. And when we all had fallen to the ground, I heard a voice speaking to me and saying in the Hebrew language, ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’ So I said, ‘Who are You, Lord?’ And He said, ‘I am YAHSHUA, whom you are persecuting. But rise and stand on your feet; for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to make you a minister and a witness both of the things which you have seen and of the things which I will yet reveal to you. I will deliver you from the Jewish people, as well as from the Gentiles, to whom I now send you, to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me’” (Acts 26:12-18). Christ told Paul His name in Hebrew. And this is what Paul wrote to the Philippians, “Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him ‘the name which is above every name,’ that at the name of YAHSHUA, every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that YAHSHUA the Christ is LORD, to the glory of God the Father” (Philippians 2:9-11). Christ, Himself told the people that He is YAH, meaning “I AM.” Our Savior said, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM {YAH}.” The expression “I AM”, means YAH. We praise our God and Savior with this expression: “Halleluyah, Praise YAH!” Shua means “my help,” as in “salvation.” YAHSHUA means, “I AM Salvation.” And the apostle Peter testified, “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” When the Sanhedrin (Jewish Court) heard the name YAHSHUA, as the name YAH is the very name given to Moses, and they recognized the very name YAH, that they sought to hide from the Gentiles, for fear that the Gentiles would profane the name, the Sanhedrin forbid the apostle from preaching in this name, “YAHSHUA” (Acts 4:17-18). However, when the apostles preached in the name of YAHSHUA, the people did not hear it, instead, they heard the name Yeshua (a common name among the Jews at that time), and unless one was part of the Way, the Nazareans, the name YAHSHUA was not well known. Yeshua, an Aramaic name, was a common name in the 1st century. Those who reject the name YAHSHUA need to take warning, “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God” (John 3:18). Why is this important revealed name, YAHSHUA, not better known? The answer is given by YAHSHUA, He said, “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it” (Matthew 7:13-14). “Few there be who find it.” Jehovah is a false name never revealed by God.

GOD will be in all and through all , , walking with us , , while in us . The Living everlasting God tenting within us , preserved like the clothing of the isrealites in the wilderness. For now we are but filthy rags . The eyes of the lord are everywhere , mine , yours , the animals , birds ,fish , insects , angels , any living thing that that can detect light in spectrums we can't imagine. Hatred of God is hatred of light . Hell ( death )has no light , The lake of fire , , ( Unapproachable Light ) destroys the heart of darkness .

I loved this video because I had this conversation with a JW recently. They can't see it any other way but the JW way though.

@MommaBear-ml5zx

12 күн бұрын

@eyeswideopen8570 what other way is there to see truth? The path is narrow. Do not stray to the right or to the left.

@Mr.DC3.1914

11 күн бұрын

GEN 1:1 says earth for the Hebrew word erets, the exact same word used in Psalm 37:29. So you think GOD only created THE LAND OF ISRAEL? Now, I'm not saying that erets ONLY means EARTH, it also means LAND, so now regarding Psalm 37:29, TELL if the LAND OF Israel HAS ANY HUMANS LIVING FOREVER in it. ZERO NONE. Do you see ALL THE RIGHTEOUS living in THE LAND OF ISRAEL NOW? nope. So you are WRONG. Even Mat 5:5 shows the meek ones will INHERIT THE EARTH and Not just the land of Israel. and you think that MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people will only LIVE FOREVER in the LAND of ISRAEL? so, no, it is NOT referring to just a section of LAND, it is talking of the WHOLE EARTH. Genesis 9:1 God went on to bless Noah and his sons and to say to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth. Was that only in ISRAEL? Isaiah 11:9 They will not cause any harm Or any ruin in all my holy mountain, Because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah As the waters cover the sea. Was that only in a section of LAND OF ISRAEL? nope. so you are WRONG

@eyeswideopen8570

11 күн бұрын

@@MommaBear-ml5zx Jesus is the Truth. We should never stray from Jesus and His pure teachings.

@MommaBear-ml5zx

11 күн бұрын

@@eyeswideopen8570 I agree Jesus is the truth, the way, and light. Do you follow Jesus' instruction when he said forgive 77 times or do you take the advice of some pastors who "jokingly" tell the joke: Jesus said if someone slaps you on the right cheek turn it and give him the left, buuuut he never said what to do the third time. This "joke" sends the message it is OK to hit the person back if he strikes a 3rd time, this is in error of Jesus' teaching. The point we are to continue to forgive is to heap hot coals upon their head (and they would feel shame and repent all on their own). So I ask you, do actually follow to the best of ability (and continue to improve/perfect) the teachings of Jesus Christ into your daily life?

@thehappy3750

7 күн бұрын

​@@eyeswideopen8570do you follow Jesus when he says to preach the kingdom of God.

If Adam never ate the fruit and remained faithful ... Where would He be ?

@eyeswideopen8570

12 күн бұрын

God knows the end from the beginning. He knew Adam would sin. He is God.

@mattgardiner614

6 күн бұрын

@@eyeswideopen8570 So let me get this straight: God created Adam and Eve, knew BEFORE he made them that they would sin, sent their immortal souls to Hellfire (Or will do AFTER the resurrection, as some believe, but having immortal souls, they never really died), and the souls of the VAST majority of humans who have ever lived (Including little kids, and those who never had any possibility to hear the good news) for millennia afterwards to Hellfire also, for all eternity ? (See owners 'Second Chance' debunked video, or whatever he calls it) And I'll bet from the other side of your face you love reading and quoting Bible verses like Psalm 86:15 ("... a God merciful and compassionate..") and 1 John 4:8 (". God is love."), right? Your problem (And the two morons who liked your comment) is that you are so neck-deep into Christendom that you can't see the all the illogical nonsense and the multitude of holes in these doctrines you believe in. Thankfully - Thanks to JW's - I was able to 'rise above' and look down on them from a birds eye view, so-to-speak, so that now I can, and God has opened my eyes. Christendom truly deserves what's coming to it.

What you believe sounds as much like a load of complete bollocks as anything that the JWs claim. Every church or denomination mines the bible to work out their own particular theology. Do any of them wonder if any of it is really true, and why the supposedly inerrant word of God can be interpreted so many different ways. It isn't true. It isn't really prophecy. It's just more astounding rubbish from the bible.

Ru Raymond Franz listen to his Testimony

I once mused to A JW that their Paradise Earth sounds like the Matrix, not the eventual one that the film is about but The Matrix v1.0 that only gets a brief mention. Agent Smith narrates that Matrix 1.0 was designed to be absolutely perfect which actually made people uncomfortable and they rebelled against it, thus it was redesigned with some flaws to make it feel more real. I could be said that those who rebelled were Worldly people, and that the JW's would theoretically be content. They wouldn't be though because their identity is all about being separate from Worldly people, once those people have been eliminated JW's will have to start looking askance at each other..

JW's have a variation of Classical Premillennialism. I'm pretty sure it predates Rutherford. Online info regarding origins is limited but I've read articles suggesting that Russel plagiarized the observations of his co-publisher J.H. Patton. All millennial doctrines are wanting. There is no eschatology that is without serious defect. A premillennial kingdom that provides for the resurrection and judgement of the resurrection to judgement (John 5:29,) reconciles the many contradictions that plague pre, post and a-mill.

@9:45 Luke 23:43 But Jesus was dead for three days. a) Either Jesus lied about going to paradise "today". b) Or "today" was added to the Bible in the 2nd or 3rd century before our earliest existing manuscripts. c) Or Jesus emphasised the D-day.

www.youtube.com/@CHRISTIAN-CONCAVERS/playlists

God does not lose so paradise earth must happen Isaiah 55:11

@eyeswideopen8570

12 күн бұрын

No one is disagreeing with you. That is what Christians also believe.

@bretherenlee1404

12 күн бұрын

@@eyeswideopen8570 only 144000 go to heaven no more

@misterauctor7353

12 күн бұрын

​@@bretherenlee1404Proof?

@eyeswideopen8570

12 күн бұрын

@@bretherenlee1404 Rev 7:4." And I heard the number of those who were sealed. 144,000 of all the tribes of the children of Isreal." Then it goes on to name all the tribes these 144K come from. Rev 14:4 says "They did not defile themselves with women, for they are virgins." They are all Jewish, male, and virgins. Verse 9 then describes a great multitude which could not be numbered standing before the throne and before the Lamb. vs 15 says they are before the throne of God and serve in His temple and He who sits on the throne will dwell among them. (these are the ones who come out of the great tribulation) vs 14. Obviously more will be in heaven than just 144,000 virgins.

@bretherenlee1404

12 күн бұрын

@@eyeswideopen8570 revelation 14:1-5 shows that only 144000 go whereever Jesus goes . as Matthew 25:31-32 show that being before the throne does not mean being in heaven as Galatians 3 verse seven shows all who put faith in Jesus are children of abraham and verse 28 and 29 shows it does not matter jew or gentile matthew chapter three verse nine

Prov 2:21 mentions "For only the upright will reside in the earth, And the blameless* will remain in it." notice REMAIN IN IT, and it does not say LEAVE so you are wrong, and Psalm 37 shows the righteous will LIVE FOREVER in it, which is the EARTH

@MR-gx3gc

13 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, you have still not internalized the core of the question. Where in the New Testament is it revealed to us that the majority of true worshipers of God will survive in their original bodies, and then have to go through a process of testing during the millennial-reign and that Jesus will remain invisible to the survivors of this group for all eternity?

@user-id1zo2bl6h

13 күн бұрын

If that is true then why does the Org teach the murder, the r-per, the adultery will have a second chance? They are not righteous are they? Romans 6:7 does not wipe away their sins. The wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23

@richbaker7187

13 күн бұрын

DC, do you realize most translations use "land" where the NWT uses "earth"? That word is interchangeable sometimes, but the context is those dwelling in the land. You know, that "promised land" that God "promised" to His chosen people? You know, that place called Israel? This verse is also not eschatological. So your point is moot. But it behooves me to ask myself why I bother trying to reason with you, since it is beyond your ability to reason.

@Mr.DC3.1914

13 күн бұрын

@@richbaker7187 pSALM 37, Yes it can be translated as land, so do you see ANY HUMANS LIVING FOREVER in that land, or ISRAEL, and ONLY RIGHTEOUS ones LIVE IN IT? and you think you have the ability to reason o my. it is NOT only the NWT that used EARTH there - Aramaic Bible in Plain English And the righteous ones inherit the Earth and dwell upon it for eternity. Brenton Septuagint Translation But the righteous shall inherit the earth, and dwell upon it for ever.

@Mr.DC3.1914

13 күн бұрын

@@user-id1zo2bl6h THE WICKED will not be resurrected, it is up to Jesus and GOD who will be resurrected among the UNRIGHTEOUS ones. ISA 26:14 They are dead; they will not live. Powerless in death, they will not rise up.s For you have turned your attention to them To annihilate them and destroy all mention of them.

cab2-88 So why are you 'still' studying with the JW's after one year if you don't believe in their teachings from the scriptures! Who's the hypocrite now!!

Rev 20:4 Who are the millennial judges judging?

Unsaved get baptism of fire at end of age as John the Baptist said, aka lake of fire which will burn everything up and make way for new earth and new heaven.

Hows tight pants tony?

The day paradise earth comes will be the day SATAN is allowed back in to heaven😂😇👹

Scripture also states the righteous shall possess the earth and dwell upon it FOREVER,it also states the meek shall inherit the earth

@ScottMilo

13 күн бұрын

Nope! That’s added words to the NWT. Read the ESV Bible

Heaven sounds very earthly mai tai are a thing that exists in real life and so do beaches why do you love hardships?

Just a thought if adam had not sinned where would we all be today?

@eyeswideopen8570

12 күн бұрын

God knew Adam would sin, and made preparations for redemption from the beginning. He knows the end before the beginning because He is God. He had the plan of redemption in place all along.

@meisie62

12 күн бұрын

@@eyeswideopen8570 that sounds like a monster god setting up someone to deliberately fall. shows no free will.🤫

@eyeswideopen8570

12 күн бұрын

@@meisie62 Do you think God did not know? He is God. How could He not know? He is all knowing, and knows the end before the beginning.

@meisie62

11 күн бұрын

@@eyeswideopen8570 Agreed. However he dignifies ppl with making a choice. Eg Abraham offering up Isaac Gen22v1&22..and reached out and took the knife to cut his son’s throat; 11 and God’s Angel called to him out of the sky “Abraham, Abraham!” and he said “Here I am.” 12 And he said “Do not lay hands on the boy nor do anything to him; for NOW I KNOW you are a God-fearing man and have not kept back your son from me, your only son. Showing God allowing Abraham to choose obedience or not. Adam had the same choice. God did not set him up because as a God of love, wisdom, justice and power he gave him choice.

@eyeswideopen8570

11 күн бұрын

@@meisie62 But He still knew Abraham's heart. He's God.

Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL

you don't see that the Bible is contradiction itself and causing confusion 😂

1 Kings 8:27 “But will God in very deed dwell on the earth? behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded!” - ASV “But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain you; how much less this house that I have built!” -ESV Clear scripture. God cannot dwell on Earth. In fact the atmosphere around earth and the physical universe cannot contain God. So how can God “dwell” with mankind on the “new earth”?

@LightoverDarkMinistry

13 күн бұрын

Was God in the garden of Eden? Also those are being poetic, in response to the polytheism of the time, and the false view of God they had. Can God not be anywhere he wants?

@jwjim

13 күн бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry “no man has seen God at any time“.- John 1:18 Adam, the first man, never has God in any form standing by his side as you displayed on your video. BTW. Your video, was that one of the three persons of God, or was that the One Being of God standing next to Adam?

@jwjim

13 күн бұрын

So you think Gods can’t use poetry to explain truths to His people? But even on this point I need to correct you. It is in fact an inspired prayer from Solomon to Jehovah for the nation of Israel at the dedication of Jehovah Temple He has Solomon build. Jehovah reiterated those particular words through the prophet Isaiah “This is what Jehovah says: “The heavens are my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where, then, is the house that you could build for me, And where is my resting-place?” -66:1 If the universe cannot contain God (“Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares Jehovah. - Jeremiah 23:24) then there is no place on earth that can. This is a fact that stands against your false teaching.

@LightoverDarkMinistry

13 күн бұрын

@@jwjim Technically, that was the pre-incarnate Christ, the Word. Even the targums said they heard the Word of God walking. Either way, they heard God walking. God was there. John 1:18, look at the whole verse, that "seeing" is about knowing. Christ fully exegetes, God so people can now fully "see" or "know" him like no one else had. You really can't use John 1:18, as even the WT admits "seeing" in the greek, can be used for understanding. But you still have to deal with Gen 3:8, the text clearly says they heard God walking...he was there.

@LightoverDarkMinistry

13 күн бұрын

@@jwjim Yeah, God fills the universe with his Holy Spirit.

BROTHERMAN, YOU JUST CONTRADICT YOURSELF WHEN YOU SAY THE KINGDOM WAS COMING DOWN( FROM) GOD. DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOD'S KINGDOM? YOU THINK GOD'S KINGDOM IS HEAVEN, BUT, GOD'S KINGDOM IS A GOVERNMENT, read DANIEL 2 v 44? BROTHERMAN, didn't Jesus tell the gentleman next to him, " I TELL YOU TODAY, YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE.? WELL JESUS ASCENDED TO HEAVEN ( ACTS 1 v 9) but John 3 v 13 says NO MAN HAS ASCENDED TO HEAVEN BUT HE WHO CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN JESUS CHRIST. So are you saying that Jesus fooled the gentleman? NOW THAT YOU LEARN THE TRUTH, YOU NEED TO APPOLOGISE TO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. BROTHERMAN, do you know that MANY ARE CALLED BUT FEW ARE CHOSEN? ( MATTHEW 22 v 14) Do you know that those chosen few are joint heirs with Christ? Do you know what an heir is? SOMEONE WAITING TO TAKE UP OWNERSHIP OR RULERSHIP. Reverlation 14 v 1 to 5 speak of those chosen few who are going to Heaven, and verse 6 speak of the EVERLASTING GOSPEL FOR THOSE WHO DWELL UPON THE EARTH. Reverlation 5 v 9 and 10 tells you what those chosen few who go to Heaven are going to do, THEY SHALL BE MADE KINGS AND PRIESTS AND THEY SHALL RULE OVER THE EARTH. If they are going to rule over the earth, there must be people for them to rule? Matthew 5 v 5 says, BLESSED ARE THE MEEK FOR THEY SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH. PSALMS 37 v 11 says, THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH AND SHALL DELIGHT THEMSELVES IN THE ABUNDANCE OF PEACE AND VERSE 29 SAYS, THEY SHALL DWELL UPON THE EARTH FOREVER ( F O R E V E R.)

At 9:20. The following clip proves you are wrong with these modern-day examples. Watch the video: "Ian Paisley reveals Britain were going to pull the plug on NI" at 2:15 and 3:00. The Reverend Ian Paisley (of Christendom) says at 2:15: "Let me say to you today, ..." At 3:00: "What I am saying to you today..."

@LightoverDarkMinistry

9 күн бұрын

David.....Ian Paisley is an old man, not Jesus the perfect communicator. What he's saying, isn't scripture. Dude, I've seen you reach before, but this is just......pathetic. Do better man, I've seen you do better.

@davidagnew8792

9 күн бұрын

​@@LightoverDarkMinistryHe was a Protestant evilangelical like you. He spoke the Hebrew idiom. Your reply was ad hominem.

@MR-gx3gc

8 күн бұрын

@@davidagnew8792 My gosh. What nonsense do you continue to spread on this channel. Christian doctrine is found only in the writings of the New Testament and not in secular scholars, whoever they may be. In which of his writings did the apostle Paul , in the Jehovah`s name, proclaim that the majority of Christ's followers will survive the end of this world on this earth in their original bodies, and that Jesus will remain invisible to this group for all eternity? If you cannot provide the biblical evidence for your theory, you should humbly remain silent in the future. Phillipians 3,17-24 ( N W T Study Edition) 17 U n i t e d l y b e c o m e i m i t a t o r s o f m e , brothers, and keep your eye on those who are walking in a way that is in harmony with the example we set for you. 18 For there are many-I used to mention them often but now I mention them also with weeping-who are walking as enemies of the torture stake of the Christ. 19 T h e i r e n d i s d e s t r u c t i o n , and their god is their belly,y and their glory is really their shame, and =================================== t h e y h a v e t h e i r m i n d s o n e a r t h l y t h i n g s . ====================================================== 20 B u t o u r c i t i z e n s h i p e x i s t s i n t h e h e a v e n s , ======================================================= and we are eagerly waiting for a savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 w h o w i l l t r a n s f o r m o u r h u m b l e b o d y t o b e l i k e h i s g l o r i o u s b o d y by his ========================================================================================= great power that enables him to subject all things to himself.

@MR-gx3gc

8 күн бұрын

@@davidagnew8792 I take the liberty of drawing your attention to the fact that the Apostle John, in his vision, saw the group of the "144,000" and the great crowd in the same place after their final redemption, that is, before the throne and before the elders and the four living creatures. Could you please explain to me how you can deduce two different locations from these specific descriptions? Revelation 14,1-4 ( N W T Study Edition) 1 Then I saw, and look! the Lamb s t a n d i n g o n M o u n t Z i o n and w i t h h i m 1 4 4 , 0 0 0 who have his ==================================================================================== name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. 2 I heard a sound coming out of heaven like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder; and the sound that I heard was like singers who accompany themselves by playing on their harps. 3 And t h e y a r e s i n gi n g what seems to be a new song b e f o r e t h e t h r o n e a n d ============================== b e f o r e t h e f o u r l i v i n g c r e a t u r e s ======================================= a n d t h e e l d e r s, ===================== and no one was able to master that song except the 144,000,h who have been bought from the earth. Revelation 7,9-15 ( N W T Study Edition) 9 After this I saw, and look! a g r e a t c r o w d , which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, s t a n d i n g b e f o r e t h e t h r o n e ==================================== and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes;g and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep shouting with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation we owe to our God, who is seated on the throne,i and to the Lamb.” 11 A l l t h e a n g e l s w e r e s t a n d i n g a r o u n d t h e t h r o n e ========================================================= a n d t h e e l d e r s a n d t h e f o u r l i v i n g c r e a t u r e s , ================================================== a n d t h e y f e l l f a c e d o w n b e f o r e t h e t h r o n e ===================================================== and worshipped God, 12 saying: “Amen! Let the praise and the glory and the wisdom and the thanksgiving and the honor and the power and the strength be to our God forever and ever.l Amen.” 13 In response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes,m who are they and where did they come from?” 14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one who knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 T h a t i s w h y t h e y a r e b e f o r e t h e t h r o n e o f G o d , ====================================================== and they are rendering him sacred service d a y a n d n i g h t i n h i s t e m p l e ; ( n o t e : g r e e k : " n a o s ") ============================================================= and the One seated on the thronep will spread his tent over them.

@MR-gx3gc

8 күн бұрын

@@davidagnew8792 e Great Crowd according to Revelation chapter 7 before the throne and in the temple ("naos") I strongly recommend that you once again subject the Bible text to a thorough exegetical evaluation. The angels and the great crowd are both described in Revelation chapter 7 before the throne, i.e., in the same place. John affirms this elementary fact in verse 15 by emphasizing that after their final salvation, he saw the great crowd in the same place as the angels and the elders, namely before the throne and not on earth Moreover, John added that this group will render sacred service in the temple of God after their salvation, with John revealing to the readers of his letter where this temple of God (Greek: naos) is located. Revelation 11,19 ( N W T Study Edition) 19 And the t e m p l e s a n c t u a r y (note: "naos": the identical greek term as in Revelation 7,15) ================================================================================ o f G o d i n h e a v e n was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen in his temple sanctuary. And there were ========================= flashes of lightning and voices and thunders and an earthquake and a great hail. Revelation 7,9-15 ( N W T Study Edition) 9 After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, s t a n d i n g b e f o r e t h e t h r o n e ==================================== and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes;g and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep shouting with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation we owe to our God, who is seated on the throne,i and to the Lamb.” 11 A l l t h e a n g e l s w e r e s t a n d i n g a r o u n d t h e t h r o n e ========================================================= and the elders and the four living creatures, and they f e l l f a c e d o w n b e f o r e t h e t h r o n e ======================================== and worshipped God, 12 saying: “Amen! Let the praise and the glory and the wisdom and the thanksgiving and the honor and the power and the strength be to our God forever and ever.l Amen.” 13 In response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes,m who are they and where did they come from?” 14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one who knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 T h a t i s w h y t h e y a r e b e f o r e t h e t h r o n e o f G o d , ====================================================== and they are rendering him sacred service d a y a n d n i g h t i n h i s t e m p l e ; (note: greek: "naos" =================================================== and the One seated on the thronep will spread his tent over them. M R

My observation is that a relationship with God/Christ is often used as a substitute for learning to live through oneself.

GEN 1:1 says earth for the Hebrew word erets, the exact same word used in Psalm 37:29. So you think GOD only created THE LAND OF ISRAEL? Now, I'm not saying that erets ONLY means EARTH, it also means LAND, so now regarding Psalm 37:29, TELL if the LAND OF Israel HAS ANY HUMANS LIVING FOREVER in it. ZERO NONE. Do you see ALL THE RIGHTEOUS living in THE LAND OF ISRAEL NOW? nope. So you are WRONG. Even Mat 5:5 shows the meek ones will INHERIT THE EARTH and Not just the land of Israel. and you think that MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people will only LIVE FOREVER in the LAND of ISRAEL? so, no, it is NOT referring to just a section of LAND, it is talking of the WHOLE EARTH. Genesis 9:1 God went on to bless Noah and his sons and to say to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth. Was that only in ISRAEL? Isaiah 11:9 They will not cause any harm Or any ruin in all my holy mountain, Because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah As the waters cover the sea. Was that only in a section of LAND OF ISRAEL? nope. so you are WRONG

@MR-gx3gc

11 күн бұрын

to your paramount comment: Even M a t 5 : 5 s hows the meek ones will I N H E RI T T H E E A R T H a nd Not just the land of Israel. and you think that MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people will only LIVE FOREVER in the LAND of ISRAEL? so, no, it is NOT referring to just a section of LAND, it is talking of the WHOLE EARTH. Genesis 9:1 -------------------------------------------- The interpretation you advocate is incompatible with the message of Jesus, if one takes the trouble to evaluate his speech coherently. First, Jesus addressed the messages in his speech not to two different groups of his disciples, but to a single group of his disciples. Jesus did not distinguish between two groups of his disciples in any of his speeches. On the contrary. Jesus has indiscriminately promised the same blessings to all his followers. (John 5:24) The same principle applies to Jesus' statements in his famous Sermon on the Mount, which you mentioned in your commentary. In order to underpin the authenticity of this interpretation, I would like to ask you to comment on the following questions, which are directly related to these statements of Jesus. Matthew chapter 5 ( N W T Study Edition) 1 When he saw the crowds, he went up on the mountain; and after he sat down, his disciples came to him. 2 Then he opened his mouth and began teaching them, saying: 3 “Happy are those conscious o f t h e i r s p i r i t u a l n e e d , since t h e K i n g d o m o f t h e h e a v e n s b e l o n g s t o t h e m . 4 “Happy are those who mourn, since they will be comforted. 5 “Happy are the m i l d - t e m p e r e d , since they will i n h e r i t t h e e a r t h . ====================================================================== 6 “Happy are those hungering and t h i r s t i n g f o r r i g h t e o u s n e s s , s i n c e t h e y w i l l b e f i l l e d . 7 “Happy are the m e r c i f u l , since they will be shown mercy. 8 “Happy are the p u r e i n h e a r t h s i n c e t h e y w i l l s e e G o d . ================================================================= 9 “Happy are the p e a c e m a k e r s , s i n c e t h e y w i l l b e c a l l e d s o n s o f G o d =================================================================================== 10 “Happy are those who have been p e r s e c u t e d f o r r i g h t e o u s n e s s ’ s a k e , since the K i n g d o m o f t h e h e a v e n s b e l o n g s t o t h e m . 11 “Happy are you when people reproach* youm and persecute youn and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. 12 Rejoice and b e o v e r j o y e d , s i n c e y o u r r e w a r d q i s g r e a t i n t h e h e a v e n s , for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you. What elements will one day make up the inheritance that is promised equally to all followers of Christ? The new earth and the new heavens, or just the new heaven. (Ephesians 1:1-14, Revelation 21:1, 2 Peter 3:10-14) Questions to the Bible scholar ========================== 1.) In your opinion, are the apostles Peter and Paul and the other first disciples of Jesus such as Timothy and Luke not to be classified as "meek", but only you and your confreres today? 2.) Are the meek ones to be strictly distinguished from the "peacemakers" and those who are "pure in heart" mentioned in verses 8 and 9? 3.) Will only the disciples of Jesus, who are peaceable and pure in heart, be called children of God and will be allowed to see God, but not the "meek ones"?

@Mr.DC3.1914

10 күн бұрын

@@MR-gx3gc you cannot stop twisting. Both who will be kings and priests and those who will live on the paradise earth are MEEK ones. Some will go to heaven as spirits and some REMAIN here on earth as perfect humans. PROV 2:21. NOTICE REMAIN IN IT. and NOT LEAVE and then return

@MR-gx3gc

10 күн бұрын

@@Mr.DC3.1914 to your paramount comment: you cannot stop twisting. Both who will be kings and priests and those who will live on the paradise earth are MEEK ones. Some will go to heaven as spirits and some REMAIN here on earth as perfect humans. PROV 2:21. NOTICE REMAIN IN IT. and NOT LEAVE and then return ------------------------------------------------------------------ I recommend that you evaluate the biblical statements coherently. Jesus did not mention a second class of Christians in any of his speeches. On the contrary. In addition, in his Sermon on the Mount he deliberately and not coincidentally used the term " i n h e r i t the earth". Who will one day inherit the new earth and the new heaven, that is, all his belongings, at the return of Christ, can be seen from the other writings of the New Testament, namely all Christians, whom God regards all as his children. (1 John 3:1-4). Therefore, it is mentioned in the same breath that these heirs will also take possession of the heavenly kingdom in the same way. Question to the Bible scholar ========================= How can you presume to deny me and others the blessings that Jesus promised to all his true followers? (John 5,24). Romans 8,15-17 ( N W T Study Edition) 15 For you did not receive a spirit of slavery causing fear again, but you received a spirit of a d o p t i o n a s s o n s , by which spirit we cry out: “ A b b a , F a t h e r ! ” 16 The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit t h a t w e a r e G o d’ s c h i l d r e n . ================================== 17 I f , t h e n , w e a r e c h i l d r e n , w e a r e a l s o h e i r s - h e i r s i n d e e d o f G o d , ===================================================== but joint heirsy with Christ-provided we suffer togetherz so that we may also be glorified together.a Matthew 5,1-12 ( N W T Study Edition) 1 When he saw the crowds, he went up on the mountain; and after he sat down, his disciples came to him. 2 Then he opened his mouth and began teaching them, saying: 3 “Happy are those conscious o f t h e i r s p i r i t u a l n e e d , since t h e K i n g d o m o f t h e h e a v e n s b e l o n g s t o t h e m . ======================================================== 4 “Happy are those who mourn, since they will be comforted. 5 “Happy are the m i l d - t e m p e r e d , since they will i n h e r i t t h e e a r t h . ====================================================================== 6 “Happy are those hungering and t h i r s t i n g f o r r i g h t e o u s n e s s , s i n c e t h e y w i l l b e f i l l e d . 7 “Happy are the m e r c i f u l , since they will be shown mercy. 8 “Happy are the p u r e i n h e a r t h s i n c e t h e y w i l l s e e G o d . ================================================================= 9 “Happy are the p e a c e m a k e r s , s i n c e t h e y w i l l b e c a l l e d s o n s o f G o d =================================================================================== 10 “Happy are those who have been p e r s e c u t e d f o r r i g h t e o u s n e s s ’ s a k e , since the K i n g d o m o f t h e h e a v e n s b e l o n g s t o t h e m . ====================================================================== 11 “Happy are you when people reproach* youm and persecute youn and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. 12 Rejoice and b e o v e r j o y e d , s i n c e y o u r r e w a r d i s g r e a t i n t h e h e a v e n s , =========================================================================== for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you.

@MR-gx3gc

10 күн бұрын

Questions to the Bible scholar ========================== 1.) In your opinion, are the apostles Peter and Paul and the other first disciples of Jesus such as Timothy and Luke not to be classified as "meek", but only you and your confreres today? 2.) Are the meek ones to be strictly distinguished from the "peacemakers" and those who are "pure in heart" mentioned in verses 8 and 9? 3.) Will only the disciples of Jesus, who are peaceable and pure in heart, be called children of God and will be allowed to see God, but not the "meek ones"? Matthew chapter 5 ( N W T Study Edition) 1 When he saw the crowds, he went up on the mountain; and after he sat down, his disciples came to him. 2 Then he opened his mouth and began teaching them, saying: 3 “Happy are those conscious o f t h e i r s p i r i t u a l n e e d , since t h e K i n g d o m o f t h e h e a v e n s b e l o n g s t o t h e m . 4 “Happy are those who mourn, since they will be comforted. 5 “Happy are the m i l d - t e m p e r e d , since they will i n h e r i t t h e e a r t h . ====================================================================== 6 “Happy are those hungering and t h i r s t i n g f o r r i g h t e o u s n e s s , s i n c e t h e y w i l l b e f i l l e d . 7 “Happy are the m e r c i f u l , since they will be shown mercy. 8 “Happy are the p u r e i n h e a r t h s i n c e t h e y w i l l s e e G o d . ================================================================= 9 “Happy are the p e a c e m a k e r s , s i n c e t h e y w i l l b e c a l l e d s o n s o f G o d =================================================================================== 10 “Happy are those who have been p e r s e c u t e d f o r r i g h t e o u s n e s s ’ s a k e , since the K i n g d o m o f t h e h e a v e n s b e l o n g s t o t h e m . 11 “Happy are you when people reproach* youm and persecute youn and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. 12 Rejoice and b e o v e r j o y e d , s i n c e y o u r r e w a r d i s g r e a t i n t h e h e a v e n s , for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you.

@Mr.DC3.1914

10 күн бұрын

@@MR-gx3gc you have inability to understand, PROV 2:21 SAYS REMAIN on earth. understand what REMAIN means? and they LIVE FOREVER IN IT- EARTH. Psalm 37

The Paradise Earth People of various races enjoy a meal together in Paradise Jehovah will completely undo all the bad that Satan has done. Jehovah has made Jesus the King over all the earth. Under his rulership, the earth will be made into a paradise.-Daniel 7:13, 14; Luke 23:43. Jehovah promises these things: PLENTY OF FOOD: “The earth itself will certainly give its produce; God, our God, will bless us.” “There will come to be plenty of grain on the earth; on the top of the mountains there will be an overflow.”-Psalm 67:6; 72:16. NO MORE WAR: “Come, you people, behold the activities of Jehovah, how he has set astonishing events on the earth. He is making wars to cease to the extremity of the earth.”-Psalm 46:8, 9. NO BAD PEOPLE: “For evildoers themselves will be cut off . . . And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more; and you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.”-Psalm 37:9, 10. Life in Paradise NO SICKNESS, SORROW, OR DEATH: “At that time the eyes of the blind ones will be opened, and the very ears of the deaf ones will be unstopped. At that time the lame one will climb up just as a stag does, and the tongue of the speechless one will cry out in gladness.”-Isaiah 35:5, 6. “And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”-Revelation 21:3, 4. Unlike Satan and the demons, Jehovah never lies. Everything he promises must come true. (Luke 1:36, 37) Jehovah loves you and wants you to live in the Paradise that he will make. So contact Jehovah’s Witnesses to learn more about the marvelous truths found in God’s Word. If you apply the truth in your life, you will be set free from bondage to falsehood, superstition, and ignorance. In time, you will even be released from bondage to sin and death. As Jesus said: “You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”-John 8:32.

@adamgomez2043

13 күн бұрын

You shouldn't be here, don't you obey the GB?

Being with the Lord in this context does not mean being in heaven. John ch.3:13NIV"No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven-the Son of Man. e " of David Peter declared .acts ch.2:34KJV"For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand," No one our Lord included goes to heaven when they die. Those who are born again will ascend to heaven after their resurrection as was the case with our Lord and savior. John ch.6:44NIV"“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day." The soul slumbers until is awaken by our Lord on the LAST Day of this present age which "day" will include the promised millennium

What is Paradise? WHAT PEOPLE SAY Some think that Paradise is nothing more than a myth. Others believe that it is a gardenlike utopia where good people live forever and share in joyful and productive activities. WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS The word “paradise” has been used to designate mankind’s first home, the garden of Eden. (Genesis 2:7-15) The Bible presents that garden as a real place where the first human couple lived free of disease and death. (Genesis 1:27, 28) Because they disobeyed God, the first couple lost their paradisaic home. However, many Bible prophecies describe a future in which humans will enjoy Paradise restored. WHY SHOULD IT MATTER TO YOU? If God is loving, then it would make sense that he would reward his faithful worshippers with a good life in such a place as Paradise. It would also make sense that he would inform people about what they need to do in order to gain God’s approval. The Bible says that you can gain God’s approval by taking in knowledge of him and obeying his commands.-John 17:3; 1 John 5:3. “Jehovah God planted a garden in Eden, . . . and there he put the man whom he had formed.”-Genesis 2:8. Where is Paradise? WHAT PEOPLE SAY Some believe that Paradise is in heaven, while others claim that it will be established in the future on earth. WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS The original Paradise for mankind was on earth. God has clearly designated the earth as the permanent home for humans. The Bible says that God made our planet to last forever. (Psalm 104:5) It also states: “To Jehovah the heavens belong, but the earth he has given to the sons of men.”-Psalm 115:16. It is not surprising, then, that the Bible holds out the promise of Paradise on earth. In it, God will bless mankind with everlasting life. Harmony and peace will prevail. Pain and suffering will be gone. And people will be able to enjoy to the full the natural wonders of planet earth.-Isaiah 65:21-23. “The tent of God is with mankind, . . . and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.”-Revelation 21:3, 4. Who will live in Paradise? WHAT PEOPLE SAY Many religions teach that only good people will live in Paradise. But there is much confusion as to what “good” means. Some think that it is enough simply to participate in religious ceremonies and ritualistic prayers. WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS The Bible teaches that “the righteous” will live in Paradise. But who is righteous in God’s eyes? Not the person who engages in the rituals of his religion while ignoring God’s will. The Bible says: “Does Jehovah have as much delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as in obeying the voice of Jehovah? Look! To obey is better than a sacrifice.” (1 Samuel 15:22) Simply put, “the righteous” who will live forever in Paradise are the ones who obey God’s commands as outlined in the Bible. WHAT YOU CAN DO Obedience to God’s commandments involves more than participation in religious ceremonies. By your everyday conduct, you may either please or displease God. You can learn to please God by carefully examining the Bible. And he is not hard to please. The Bible says that “his commandments are not burdensome.” (1 John 5:3) God is eager to reward your obedience by granting you entrance into Paradise.

@misterauctor7353

13 күн бұрын

Copying and pasting?

@adamgomez2043

13 күн бұрын

Leave or I'll tell Steven llett

You reading the verses made me think the bible is a heap of s#$t.

@RuggedCross1

13 күн бұрын

You are judging with a man's hard heart blasphemer. And no I am not JW

I learned in revelation book that God Jehovah says "i make new heaven and new earth 😊. And last Sunday i learned Jesaja chapter 11 talks about Paradise here on earth in 1000 års riket or after 1000 årsriket i dont remember 😊.

Psalms 115:16 “16The heavens are the LORD’s heavens, but the earth he has given to the children of man.” The earth is given to mankind. That is Gods original purpose. God didn’t make the earth to be a habitation for himself. He formed the earth to be inhabited by people of flesh and blood. Isaiah 45:18 “For this is what Jehovah says, The Creator of the heavens, the true God, The One who formed the earth, its Maker who firmly established it, Who did not create it simply for nothing, but formed it TO BE INHABITED: “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else. Psalms 33:13 The LORD (Jehovah) looks down from heaven; he sees all the children of man; 14from where he sits enthroned (from His dwelling place; from the place of His habitation; from the place He resides; from the fixed place of His dwelling) he looks out on all the inhabitants of the earth,” Despite having a fixed location in the spiritual heavens where He and His Son and the other sons of God (angels) dwell, He looks down on people. They are on His footstool and He is with them. Isaiah 57:15 “For this is what the High and Lofty One says, Who lives forever and whose name is holy: “I reside in the high and holy place, But also with those crushed and lowly in spirit, To revive the spirit of the lowly And to revive the heart of those being crushed.”

@ginaanelli9717

13 күн бұрын

John 14:1-3 English Standard Version 2016 (ESV) In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also.

@mattgardiner614

13 күн бұрын

@@ginaanelli9717 If you actually read the verses cross-referenced with John 14:2 and 3, you will see that he was talking to the 144,000. AKA, "little flock". For example (Luke 12:32). The "heirs" (Romans 8:17).

@misterauctor7353

10 күн бұрын

​@@mattgardiner614If you actually read Psalm 37 in context, you will know it's abput Jews.

ROWAN TASMANIA Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

The original paradise was earthly. Genesis ch.2:8,9NKJV"The Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed. 9And out of the ground the LORD God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil." Note there was no tree if death in this paradise, but there was a tree of life, access to which symbolized a guarantee of human perfection not just eternal life but eternal youth,perpetual physical ,mental ,spiritual health. Genesis ch.3:22NKJV"Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”" So etefnal life in a paradise that could only be accessed through death was not part of JEHOVAH'S Original purpose. If the founding parents of our race had made the wise choice they would continue to perpetually enjoy the human perfection JEHOVAH had graciously given them and have the right to pass on this perpetual human perfection to their offspring.

@misterauctor7353

13 күн бұрын

Do you have proof?

@aservantofJEHOVAH7849

13 күн бұрын

@@misterauctor7353 of what exactly?

@adamgomez2043

13 күн бұрын

Servant of watchtower

@aservantofJEHOVAH7849

13 күн бұрын

@@adamgomez2043 I have crushed you people in debate after debate using your own bibles and commentaries ,there is precisely zero evidence of this alleged superior biblical illiteracy you people like to boast about,

@dirkfirkle73

13 күн бұрын

@@aservantofJEHOVAH7849 You say that you "have crushed you people in debate after debate". You don't really sound like one of the meek that shall inherit the earth.

Quick comment. Two groups, two different locations. When the Sadducees were questioning Jesus about the resurrection at Matthew 22, Jesus replied in part "for in the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage, but they are as angels in heaven." (vs.30) Yet in a prophecy about the future paradise in Isaiah 65 we read: "... Nor will they bear children for distress,..." (Isaiah 65:23). So how can this be so? Virgin births? Or will the Kingdom be a 'Free love' Hippie commune?

@RowanTasmanian

13 күн бұрын

G'day Matt, I'm still waiting on an answer to my questions that were asked several weeks ago. Could you please respond as this has dragged on and it should be answered in a timely manner. Thanks.

@LightoverDarkMinistry

13 күн бұрын

Jesus is being direct and explicit; Isaiah is being poetic. Therefore, you need to take Jesus literally, and you need to understand the context of what Isaiah is saying. Isaiah is explaining the change in environment, and referring to a common theme of how evil robs the most innocent among us. The well-known pain any loving person with children fears, will be gone.

@MR-gx3gc

13 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, you have still not internalized the core of the question. Where in the New Testament is it revealed to us that the majority of true worshipers of God will survive in their original bodies, and then have to go through a process of testing during the millennial-reign and that Jesus will remain invisible to the survivors of this group for all eternity?

@Mr.DC3.1914

13 күн бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry Just POETIC? NOPE. Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; Isaiah 65:17 For look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth; And the former things will not be called to mind, THAT's LITERAL, GOD will make all things NEW. and that is NOT JUST POETIC AND IMAGINARY

@Mr.DC3.1914

13 күн бұрын

@@RowanTasmanian Did you TELL YOUR WIFE that ONE WIFE means THREE WIVES for you? that question has been DRAGGGING forever from you. O MY

That’s right God always remains in heaven Rev 21:2,3,10, 21-23; Genesis 3:8 In each of those verses, who is “God” in reference to? The Father or Jesus or holy spirit or all three? Or even what combination of two? Answer below thanks

@MR-gx3gc

8 күн бұрын

Who is revealed to us in the Hebrew Scriptures as the only Creator of all things, i.e., the heaven, the earth, the angels and men? The God YHWH or the archangel Michael? Genesis 1,1 ( N W T Study Edition) In the beginning G o d c r e a t e d t h e h e a v e n s a n d t h e e a r t h . ============================================================== Genesis 1,27-28 ( N W T Study Edition) 27 And G o d w e n t o n t o c r e a t e t h e m a n i n h i s i m a g e , i n G o d ’ s i m a g e h e c r e a t e d h i m ; =================================================================================================== male and female he created them.b 28 Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earthc and subdue it,d and have in subjectione the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 2,4 ( N W T Study Edition) 4 This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time they were created, i n t h e d a y t h a t J e h o v a h* (note: Hebrew: YHWH) G o d m a d e e a r t h a n d h e a v e n. ====================================================================================== Nehemiah 9,6 ( N W T Study Edition) 6 “ Y o u a l o n e a r e J e h o v a h ; (note : Hebrew: YHWH) y o u m a d e t h e h e a v e n s , yes, the heaven of the ================================================================================================ heavens and a l l t h e i r a r m y , t h e e a r t h an d a l l t h a t i s o n i t , t he s e a s and all that is in them. And ================================================================================== you preserve all of them alive, and the army of the heavens are bowing down to you.

@jahtruthdefender

8 күн бұрын

@@MR-gx3gc You evidently did not read the requirement of my question correctly but a nice comment nonetheless

@MR-gx3gc

8 күн бұрын

​@@jahtruthdefender Jehovah's Witnesses have explained to me several times that the God Jehovah created only the Archangel Michael and that the Archangel Michael subsequently created all other things. Where is this doctrine found in the scriptures of the Bible? Genesis 1,1 ( N W T Study Edition) In the beginning G o d c r e a t e d t h e h e a v e n s a n d t h e e a r t h . ============================================================== Genesis 1,27-28 ( N W T Study Edition) 27 And G o d w e n t o n t o c r e a t e t h e m a n i n h i s i m a g e , i n G o d ’ s i m a g e h e c r e a t e d h i m ; =================================================================================================== male and female he created them.b 28 Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earthc and subdue it,d and have in subjectione the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 2,4 ( N W T Study Edition) 4 This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time they were created, i n t h e d a y t h a t J e h o v a h* (note: Hebrew: YHWH) G o d m a d e e a r t h a n d h e a v e n. ====================================================================================== Nehemiah 9,6 ( N W T Study Edition) 6 “ Y o u a l o n e a r e J e h o v a h ; (note : Hebrew: YHWH) y o u m a d e t h e h e a v e n s , yes, the heaven of the ================================================================================================ heavens and a l l t h e i r a r m y , t h e e a r t h an d a l l t h a t i s o n i t , t he s e a s and all that is in them. And ================================================================================== you preserve all of them alive, and the army of the heavens are bowing down to you.

@LightoverDarkMinistry

8 күн бұрын

It’s the pre-incarnate Devine Word who is on the garden who is identified as God. This is evidenced by the Targums mention it is the Word in the garden, and the Hebrew name for “sound” can also mean voice, meaning they heard the “voice” walking. Let me ask you very directly, was God walking in the Garden of Eden, yes or no?

@jahtruthdefender

8 күн бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry I find it enlightening the person that invariably denigrates JW's is a person who uses the Targum to support his Christian view. Granted, you may find the Targums illuminating for your own theological reflections, however it is essential to acknowledge that the Jewish view of God as presented in the Targums is fundamentally different from the Christian understanding of the Trinity and the personhood of the Logos. Your use of the Targums to support your Christian beliefs gives no clear recognition of the different theological frameworks and intentions behind these texts. Although you found it difficult to give a straight answer when the choices given, is now asking me a direct question with choices, therefore, requiring a direct answer. I'd be very grateful if you would respectfully pick the person or persons from the options.

PSALM 37, MAT 5, the righteous will INHERIT WHAT? EARTH And they will LIVE FOREVER IN IT. and NO HUMANS right now are able to LIVE FOREVER ON EARTH, so that is referring to the NEW EARTH/ THE PARADISE EARTH to be RESTORED BY GOD

@RowanTasmanian

13 күн бұрын

Will there be toilets in this Paradise Earth ? Will you volunteer to clean my toilet, ....... Forever. I hope you do.

@richbaker7187

13 күн бұрын

DC, answer this please. All Christians believe this verse to be true, because we know that we don't STAY in heaven forever. Revelation teaches that earth and heaven as we know it today will be melted away, and there will be a new heaven and new earth, and the 2 will be joined as one. So.... what you are trying to do is use a verse we agree with, but frontload it with WT rhetoric. So here is my question, and it's in 2 parts. 1. Are the "heavenly class" of JWs not righteous, since according to JW doctrine, they will not be ON the Earth? 2. Why are you presupposing that this verse somehow ONLY applies to an "earthly class" of people? 3. and a 3rd for extra credit. Please tell me where the "heavenly class" and "earthy class" is mentioned in the bible, without frontloading your presuppositional belief system of the 2 "classes". I'll wait.

@Mr.DC3.1914

13 күн бұрын

@@richbaker7187 Pls answer these first. Psalm 37 does it say ALL righteous will live forever in it? Prov 2 says that the righteous will REMAIN in it, and it does not say LEAVE and then RETURN. so why you think they all LEAVE? Rev 5 shows the kings and priests will rule with Jesus OVER the earth.

@Kjs3vw

13 күн бұрын

Take a look at Rev. 22:12-15

@adamantiumbullet9215

13 күн бұрын

Mr DC- if your current JW beliefs are true regarding the "paradise earth" and a two-class system (earthly class/heavenly class), and can be proven biblically, as you claim, then what is your explanation for this FACT?: For the first six decades of your religion's existence, they taught there was only ONE hope for Christians- heaven - and there was no earthly "paradise earth" doctrine. How can these two diametrically opposed, contradictory doctrines BOTH be true? (please don't default to the JW "new light" nonsense. Proverbs 4 isn't talking about fudging doctrines when they can no longer be proven). If there is actually TWO hopes, why did WT teach there was only ONE hope? If there is only one hope, as WT originally taught, and that doctrine was taught as truth from Jehovah, why is WT now teaching something different? WT is supposed to be the only religion on earth teaching Bible truths, and they are told by Jehovah ("spirit directed") what to teach. If this is true, why is it WT has such difficulty figuring the Bible's message out, and is forced to constantly change their untenable teachings?

Most scholars believe that Jesus was born between 6 and 4 BC, and that Jesus' preaching began around AD 27-29. But It has been claimed that Jehovah was the invention of a Spanish monk (Raymundus Martini) in 1270 by inserting (incorrectly) the consonants (obviously this is an error -- the author probably meant "vowels") for the words often transliterated as "Elohim" and "Adonai" in between the four Hebrew letters representing the tetragrammaton of God's Holy Name in Hebrew, which he, as it has been asserted, "translated into 'Jehova' or 'Jehovah'". Such often claim that "Jehovah is a false name" "made up by a Catholic monk". ( So if Jehovah is a false name so are the one who witness for this false hood ) ( NWT ) Romans 10:13 For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” ( So who ever calls on this false name will be saved )

Do we know the story of Gideon and his 300 men? Look closely at the different ways in which the men are drinking. Some are putting their face right down to the water. But one is taking the water up in his hands, so that he can watch what is going on around him. This is important, for Jehovah told Gidʹe·on to choose only the men who keep watching while they drink. The rest, God said, should be sent home. Why is it important the men kept watching?

Well i can say one thing if Jehovahs witnesses do not have the truth. Truth does not exist 😂😂😂😂😂

@RuggedCross1

13 күн бұрын

There is one truth that Jesus is LORD and GOD come in the flesh for sinful men......and hung on a cross. not a stake as JWs wrongly believe

@shawnmcanthony5724

13 күн бұрын

@@RuggedCross1 well you believe jesus is God. The almighty is Jehovah god found in psalms 83:18. How can god die. The scripture i an my father are one misleads you. When i got married 22 yrs ago the preacher said my wife an i are one meaning we have to reason on things just like Jesus an jehovah. Jesus also prayed to God♥️

@ginaanelli9717

13 күн бұрын

@@RuggedCross1the crucifixion of our Lord is the single most important event for Christians. To see the ridiculous “pole or stake” that JW’s consider correct is heartbreaking. They misinterpret scripture throughout their false Bible. Especially John1:1

@RuggedCross1

13 күн бұрын

@@shawnmcanthony5724 Then you call Jesus Christ, God made flesh, a liar. 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him (JESUS); and without him was not any thing made that was made. Meaning Jesus created all things and no created thing can ever be a creator

@RuggedCross1

13 күн бұрын

@@shawnmcanthony5724 Do you not understand the Trinity? God the Father, God the Son God the Holy Ghost. ALL THREE ARE GOD united as one in purpose and substance

Who made Jesus God over us? Who gave Jesus ALL authority in heaven and all authority on earth? Strictly speaking, in the vision of John, he does not say he sees the great crowd in heaven, but that they were standing before the throne of God. As it is not clear that this is exclusive to heaven it cannot be proven that all the dead and the survivors of armageddon will be in heaven, however to be judged would imply that, but the meek will inherit the earth and possess it for ever, so let's keep all that in harmony when being critical.

@LightoverDarkMinistry

12 күн бұрын

Go read revelation 4:10, 5:8 and 7:11, the elders and the beasts and the angels, which are all in heaven are before the throne, just like this great crowd. If they were on earth, the text would say that, it doesn’t, it says throne, the same throne that the book has been talking about, the one in heaven. This is trying to make a false doctrine fit into the narrative, and it simply does not work. Remember, this doctrine was created by the same man who said Abraham was coming back to live with him on his mansion, and that the world was ending in 1925. Just think Wade, you’re letting that man tell you what the Bible is saying.

@Mr.DC3.1914

12 күн бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry GEN 1:1 says earth for the Hebrew word erets, the exact same word used in Psalm 37:29. So you think GOD only created THE LAND OF ISRAEL? Now, I'm not saying that erets ONLY means EARTH, it also means LAND, so now regarding Psalm 37:29, TELL if the LAND OF Israel HAS ANY HUMANS LIVING FOREVER in it. ZERO NONE. Do you see ALL THE RIGHTEOUS living in THE LAND OF ISRAEL NOW? nope. So you are WRONG. Even Mat 5:5 shows the meek ones will INHERIT THE EARTH and Not just the land of Israel. and you think that MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people will only LIVE FOREVER in the LAND of ISRAEL? so, no, it is NOT referring to just a section of LAND, it is talking of the WHOLE EARTH. Genesis 9:1 God went on to bless Noah and his sons and to say to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth. Was that only in ISRAEL? Isaiah 11:9 They will not cause any harm Or any ruin in all my holy mountain, Because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah As the waters cover the sea. Was that only in a section of LAND OF ISRAEL? nope. so you are WRONG

@Mr.DC3.1914

12 күн бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry BEFORE JEHOVAH does not mean you have to be IN HEAVEN. Leviticus 4:6 and the priest will dip his finger in the blood and spatter some of the blood seven times before Jehovah in front of the curtain of the holy place. was the priest in HEAVEN when he did that? NOPE. YOU ARE WRONG

@Mr.DC3.1914

12 күн бұрын

​@@LightoverDarkMinistry EXO 34:23, were those MEN who appeared BEFORE Jehovah, were in HEAVEN? NOPE. so you are WRONG AGAIN

@TheWadetube

12 күн бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry We agree about Rutherford, he was a bully and a false prophet to be sure. However, the great crowd , the meek who inherit the earth are the same people. You read Rev: 5:8 but not verse 10 which says about Jesus "And have made us kings and priests to our God and we shall reign on the earth." If the 144,000 kings are going to reign ON the earth then their subjects must also be there and not in heaven. Heaven is for spirit creatures, not fleshly ones. The resurrection of the dead is chiefly a physical resurrection as the bible, isn't it Isaiah that states that their flesh would become fresher than in youth. A little child will be leader over the animals and such. These prophesies are not from Rutherford but God's word. In being judged by Jesus we will in essence "stand before the throne," He will not come to us. There are many abodes in heaven in our Father's house and the 144,000 will fill them. But like angels, I suspect they will spend some time on earth too. If I take Rev 7 : 14 -17 at face value I would not suggest that they are the 144,000, nor the resurrected as they are called out of the great tribulation. I would suspect that they were the faithful ones who were killed during the 42 months of the great tribulation. They are not flesh, as they neither hunger nor thirst anymore and the sun does not shine on them anymore so they are not on earth but in Jehovah's temple in the spirit realm, serving him day and night, so they are not the annointed kings but servants of Jehovah, Jesus will reside with them, lead them to living waters that provide everlasting life and God will wipe away every tear from their eyes, ... So really, who are they? They are not the meek who inherit the earth, they died DURING the great tribulation. DO you think they are Catholics? Protestants? Mormons? Witnesses? Or people from all over the world? But that does not answer anything about those dwelling on the earth. But I think you are right about there being a third class. I always believed there would be two classes that survive, the 144,000 and the survivors of armageddon and that's it. But these serving in the temple, I am not sure of, in the past we might have thought they were the joint heirs but this is not stated, it does not fit. So there must be a third group. I am happy to hear it.

The spirit that returns to JEHOVAH is not the person. It does not differentiate humans from animals Ecclesiastical ch.3:19-21NIV"Surely the fate of human beings is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath c ; humans have no advantage over animals. Everything is meaningless. 20All go to the same place; all come from dust, and to dust all return. 21Who knows if the human spirit rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?” Ecclesiastical ch.9:10NIV"Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom." Psalm ch.115:17NIV"It is not the dead who praise the LORD, those who go down to the place of silence;" The spirit is not the self/soul . The self goes down into silence a total loss of consciousness.

This is a silly beat up. God has always been with his people, but that doesn't mean he literally walks amongst us. In the new earth God will be with us, or amongst us, in that he turns his attention toward us to correct certain problems, like death for instance, which came about through mankind's fall into sin.

@eyeswideopen8570

12 күн бұрын

But he walked and talked with Adam. Why would it be different in the JW paradise? If it goes back to the way it was, it wouldn't be paradise without Him.

@moseslivingstone1258

12 күн бұрын

@@eyeswideopen8570 But God is already with us now. Jesus also said he would be with us all the days until the end of the system of things. God being with us in paradise, or through the rulership of the new Jerusalem, on the new earth, means God turns his attention toward us to perform specific actions.

@eyeswideopen8570

12 күн бұрын

@@moseslivingstone1258 Revelation says we will worship God before His throne, and in His temple. His temple is in heaven, not on earth. We will see Him face to face. Not just having his invisible attention. It will be wonderful to finally get to be with our God and Lord.

@moseslivingstone1258

12 күн бұрын

@@eyeswideopen8570 Yes, the temple is in heaven, where our high priest Jesus is, but we are on the earth, so what the temple stands for in heaven still serves our interests here on the earth in its earthly courtyards. It's a spiritual structure that embraces both heaven and earth.

@eyeswideopen8570

11 күн бұрын

@@moseslivingstone1258 The Bible plainly says that the great multitude will be IN the Temple with God. I just stick to what the Bible says, not other peoples interpretation.

BIBLE FACT, the Hebrew word there means EARTH. SAME word is used in GEN 1:1 and it says EARTH. HELLO

You’re contradicting yourself. We are spirit creatures but also have a ‘restart’ and a fresh new body. How does that make any sense? The garden of Eden was a metaphor, we know there was no Adam and Eve.

The heavens and the earth can’t hold God. God put Adam and Eve in the Garden. The rest of the earth was uncultivated. Would heaven be considered to exist in the uncultivated earth, unprepared for habitation? God walked in the garden. When? During the breezy part of the day. (Gen. 3:8) Possibly, but not emphatically once a day God walked in the Garden. Where was he during the time he wasn’t out for a walk in the garden? Your invention has many holes.

@misterauctor7353

13 күн бұрын

"Your invention has many holes." How?

Eccl, 1:4/ Prov, 8:30-31 / Jehovah is in the paradise earth,

@misterauctor7353

13 күн бұрын

Paradise eaeth is not earth.

@MrZeuqsav

10 күн бұрын

Whats the use of paradise if all dwelling there are invisible spirits,​@@misterauctor7353

The heaven and the earth will pass away but my words will remain! .. Have you ever heard of hyperble in litiature. ! Omg, ? Go back and ask your litiature class teacher, if you went to high school??

@elly1964

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Personal attacks on education levels? Really? While you have used the name of God Irrereverently? This must be approved jw behavior now. New light I suppose. When I see a jw out in public I will think of you. Btw it is spelled "hyperbole" and "literature"