Jeff Stelling & Ally McCoist INSIST Man City's 115 Charges DON'T Tarnish The Team & Players! 👏🏆

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Manchester City won their 4th Premier League in a row yesterday. talkSPORT's Jeff Stelling and Ally McCoist have their say!
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  • @BobbyALAAT
    @BobbyALAATАй бұрын

    I own a mansion in the UK, have two holiday homes in Spain, have a Ferrari and two Lamborghini's and I take my family of 23 to the Maldives at least 4 times a year ..... however robbing a bank 3 years ago shouldn't tarnish what I have right now... 🤓

  • @YamboEmmanuel

    @YamboEmmanuel

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @kevins9417

    @kevins9417

    Ай бұрын

    I work for Interpol....cheers

  • @BobbyALAAT

    @BobbyALAAT

    Ай бұрын

    @@kevins9417 F@CK!!🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @NATAR160

    @NATAR160

    Ай бұрын

    You were accused of robbing a bank therefore u actually robbed a bank. You bank robber!!!

  • @Froggyk123
    @Froggyk123Ай бұрын

    Incredible how the media just sweep this under the carpet

  • @Photosoflife

    @Photosoflife

    Ай бұрын

    @Froggyk123 They don’t want to get caught up in libel lawsuits themselves.

  • @Jacob56-xl4xo

    @Jacob56-xl4xo

    Ай бұрын

    UAE will sue whole UK if they dont

  • @Fmfcg

    @Fmfcg

    Ай бұрын

    @@Photosoflife they've definitely had a cease and desist letter

  • @dilly9537

    @dilly9537

    Ай бұрын

    They're just towing the line. The owners of Man City could buy Talk Sport tomorrow if they wanted to. Best to just ignore the cheating and pretend City did it all on merit. 😂

  • @Dan-rc1sl

    @Dan-rc1sl

    Ай бұрын

    Absolute joke.

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335Ай бұрын

    I can think about 115 reasons why public would have different opinion than mainstream media about cheats.

  • @eddiejohnson2201
    @eddiejohnson2201Ай бұрын

    115 charges definitely tarnishes everything.

  • @nkululekonkush3403

    @nkululekonkush3403

    Ай бұрын

    It's not the charges that plays football but it's the players...

  • @ftmws293

    @ftmws293

    Ай бұрын

    @@nkululekonkush3403Man city wouldn’t have been able to get those players if they didn’t commit the alleged charges.

  • @mrfro35

    @mrfro35

    Ай бұрын

    Only if proven

  • @toddg_0.0_

    @toddg_0.0_

    29 күн бұрын

    ​@@ftmws293 so how does that affect Onana not being able to stop Phil Foden's shot?? How does that affect the fact that Arteta lost to Villa in a title race??? The Board isn't the Player's problem

  • @paulhancock
    @paulhancockАй бұрын

    So doping of any kind doesn't tarnish a legacy? I'm by no means a hater, they've built something incredible... But I don't care if it's Lance Armstrong, Ben Johnson, Jon Jones, Russian athletics or Manchester City... When you cheat by, in this case, shovelling money through the back door to ensure you're playing to different rules than everyone else, that's a deep lack of sporting ethics and it HAS to tarnish the context of those achievements. The media are such Pep boot-lickers they just can't be honest. And before anyone starts with "nO EviDENce!!". Middle-eastern companies paying City more in commercial deals than equivalent sponsorships at Barca, Madrid, United, Liverpool, Bayern and Arsenal... With a fraction of the global fanbase, does not add up. No business logic or value on investment at all. We know what it is. But hey, if the PL are weak as p*ss and City think they can just steamroll them in court... Good luck to them, but it's a sad era for the PL.

  • @6ixTacos

    @6ixTacos

    Ай бұрын

    What is truly sad is a for a grown man to be typing two paragraphs. Focus on paying your bills.

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    Ай бұрын

    @6 you have criticised him for sharing his opinion on social media and you have literally done the same thing 😂🤷‍♂️🫠

  • @6ixTacos

    @6ixTacos

    Ай бұрын

    @@docholiday-lm4vf what’s with the emoji’s? Don’t want 14 year olds talking to me .

  • @mikee7406

    @mikee7406

    Ай бұрын

    @@6ixTacos definitely touched a nerve with you there didn't he :). A classic case of can't attack the point then attack the individual

  • @6ixTacos

    @6ixTacos

    Ай бұрын

    @@mikee7406 Imagine going around responding to the allegations directly. I’ll save that for you internet lawyers.

  • @user-md9sp5nc2c
    @user-md9sp5nc2cАй бұрын

    this is the memo the media is getting to push out 😂 “tell them city are good and we’re not a corrupt to the core sport” 😂

  • @sf5912

    @sf5912

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly... It damages everything and everyone involved including the media. Lost revenue for all! People obviously still watch the Tour de France but I bet it seriously dented it's growth after Lance...

  • @toddg_0.0_

    @toddg_0.0_

    29 күн бұрын

    You must be allergic to facts😂😂

  • @user-ne3sy9gj5p
    @user-ne3sy9gj5pАй бұрын

    It absolutely tarnishes the achievements. If the allegations are proved. It would mean the whole foundations are built on a false premise.

  • @DC-zi6se

    @DC-zi6se

    Ай бұрын

    The thing is it most likely wouldn't and City are the greatest team in English football history.

  • @nhlakaniphomkhize108

    @nhlakaniphomkhize108

    Ай бұрын

    Cry a whole river buddy

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    Ай бұрын

    @DC they have no respect or get no credit now never mind whennthey get caught

  • @Jomgg

    @Jomgg

    Ай бұрын

    Are Man City using robots play football ? In fact they’ve spent less in the last 5 years compared to a few of these top sides .stay mad !

  • @robzombie5928

    @robzombie5928

    Ай бұрын

    They were already guilty when Uefa went after them but by there own rules they couldn't go back that far in time. They were guilty of other charges as well and paid a fine.

  • @docholiday-lm4vf
    @docholiday-lm4vfАй бұрын

    Of course it tarnishes it all 😂😂😂 Its one rule for 1 and one for everyone else. For almost 10 years 90% of prem team were having to sell players to buy players and also having to turn down players wages demands Not man city tho and they were a smaller club than most and selling no one to buy and paying over yhe odds for wages. Fraud at the highest level is massively advantageous on the pitch

  • @blueshadow62

    @blueshadow62

    Ай бұрын

    Ur mum is more tarnished u jealous hater lil b🖕tch‼️🙄😆

  • @environm3ntalist549

    @environm3ntalist549

    Ай бұрын

    And presumably you will be first in the queue to apologise if they are found innocent?

  • @Surveillance-Ys

    @Surveillance-Ys

    Ай бұрын

    Facts. These Muppets might as well say cheating is ok😂

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    Ай бұрын

    @envir if they are innocent why are they refusing to show it? Why drag it out for 10 years?? One question for you. Do you actually believe man city inherited more off the field revenue than man utd and Liverpool???!

  • @DC-zi6se

    @DC-zi6se

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@docholiday-lm4vf refusing to show what?

  • @Hamza-yu1ur
    @Hamza-yu1urАй бұрын

    No one should discredit how great Pep is and this city team, but to act like this all came about naturally since 2009 is absolute ignorance. The financial cheating was necessary to for man city to grow as a club so quickly out of nothing.

  • @Jacob56-xl4xo

    @Jacob56-xl4xo

    Ай бұрын

    Doesn't matter what you think we're officially the greatest of all time

  • @DC-zi6se

    @DC-zi6se

    Ай бұрын

    They have to be proven guilty before jumping to conclusions. Pep is GOAT tbh.

  • @Redballoon99

    @Redballoon99

    Ай бұрын

    so cheating is ok? because with out cheating you can't win?

  • @PilatGomes

    @PilatGomes

    Ай бұрын

    Financial fair play rules were set to protect few big clubs from competing with small clubs.

  • @pez6905

    @pez6905

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Jacob56-xl4xo utd had multiple better teams. Arsenal had multiple better. Mourinhos first Chelsea were better. 2020 lpool were better.

  • @Euclides287
    @Euclides287Ай бұрын

    Man City are the *Lance Armstrong* of the Premier League.

  • @makcity7850

    @makcity7850

    Ай бұрын

    Man City are the first team to set foot on the moon?

  • @jinlondzale4191

    @jinlondzale4191

    Ай бұрын

    Lance Armstrong don’t have Oil Money 😊

  • @ashwilliams4959

    @ashwilliams4959

    Ай бұрын

    ​@makcity7850 that was Neil you absolute tool 😂

  • @richardj2216

    @richardj2216

    28 күн бұрын

    Lance Armstrong could start at Centre Back for United!!

  • @ashwilliams4959

    @ashwilliams4959

    27 күн бұрын

    @jinlondzale4191 na but he was as juiced up as city

  • @kdee8166
    @kdee8166Ай бұрын

    What are the rules for then?

  • @ashwilliams4959

    @ashwilliams4959

    Ай бұрын

    Non saudis

  • @rj6657
    @rj6657Ай бұрын

    Most people don't accept corrupt champions no matter what media spins

  • @toddg_0.0_

    @toddg_0.0_

    29 күн бұрын

    Well Mancity only need to be cleared in the eyes of the law, not the people..thats it

  • @Brownwall
    @BrownwallАй бұрын

    As a United fan, I preferred city winning it over Arsenal. I’d of considered Arsenal winning the title legitimate.

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    Ай бұрын

    As a Liverpool fan i was hoping for city also. Says it all

  • @raymondbutler834

    @raymondbutler834

    Ай бұрын

    But aren't you not sick of Abu Dhabi FC winning the Premier League year in year out?

  • @jalberto428

    @jalberto428

    Ай бұрын

    Like united weren't cheats in the 90s

  • @jalberto428

    @jalberto428

    Ай бұрын

    @@docholiday-lm4vf didn't Liverpool get charged in 2013 for hacking city scouting next work, cheater

  • @peopletalkuttergarbage

    @peopletalkuttergarbage

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@jalberto428 I'm a Liverpool fan I would defend man united during the 90s! They purchased players through EARNED REVENUE! City brought in money illegally hence the 115 charges because they're cheating scum!

  • @ChatBuck
    @ChatBuckАй бұрын

    Everton and Forest admitted guilt, City have not and they are defending the allegations. Trying to compare Everton & Forest with City case is stupidity and only goes to prove, you have no clue

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    Ай бұрын

    Thick much?

  • @jackjones1249
    @jackjones1249Ай бұрын

    Wouldnt expect anthing else form McCoist. He still thinks Rangers never cheated to win the titles during the EBT years.

  • @TooDarnSoulful
    @TooDarnSoulfulАй бұрын

    Nothing to do with PEP or the players - get it right people, if and when others are found guilty then the punishment will come to the club !

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    Ай бұрын

    Nothing to do with the current staff who wouldn't even be there if it hadn't been for 10 years of financial doping prior.... only in your tiny mind.

  • @4857i
    @4857iАй бұрын

    Id rather “fail” the way klopp done it than win all the trophies the way theyve done it. Klopp is the best manager ever in this country. Its a handicapped horse race not a level playing field

  • @ar-mn5me

    @ar-mn5me

    Ай бұрын

    Delusional clown

  • @Hinderz

    @Hinderz

    Ай бұрын

    People respect Liverpool’s achievements which is the difference

  • @abhijithmammoottil3329

    @abhijithmammoottil3329

    Ай бұрын

    Klopp paid 90 millions for the handicapped horse called Nunez

  • @stnbch3025

    @stnbch3025

    Ай бұрын

    You guys are idi0ts. All relevant charges are pre 2018.

  • @tomben6180

    @tomben6180

    Ай бұрын

    The same Klopp who managed a club that paid City off because they hacked their database and also got sanctioned by UEFA for FFPR????

  • @MarkSimmonds-no7lh
    @MarkSimmonds-no7lhАй бұрын

    Those players would not be here without the 115 charges

  • @Smj1303

    @Smj1303

    Ай бұрын

    And arteta wouldn’t be at arsenal 🤷‍♂️

  • @spark556

    @spark556

    Ай бұрын

    Source?

  • @MarkSimmonds-no7lh

    @MarkSimmonds-no7lh

    Ай бұрын

    @@spark556 source premier league - who charged them

  • @jinlondzale4191

    @jinlondzale4191

    Ай бұрын

    After we pay off those premier league judges Those charges will all be gone. 😉 nothing will be tarnished.

  • @MarkSimmonds-no7lh

    @MarkSimmonds-no7lh

    Ай бұрын

    @@jinlondzale4191 if you 'pay off' the judges, you think people will respect that? Everyone knows how corrupt you were with UEFA.

  • @sf5912
    @sf5912Ай бұрын

    115 FC bought two teams with the money .. enabling more rest and rotation! No surprise the media try and justify it as they are in bed with this ...they had so many top players they stockpile...just ask Calvin Philips!

  • @city4ever642

    @city4ever642

    Ай бұрын

    They bought 2 teams? Foden was bought? Ortega was bought? Lewis was bought? I don’t think so. Foden is the best player in the league and he was free!! City don’t have 2 teams. Chelsea have a bigger team. United have a bigger team. They’ve also spent more money than city has. Why aren’t they winning? Arsenal spent more. Why aren’t they winning? You’re clearly salty and it’s showing

  • @therealking6202

    @therealking6202

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@city4ever642It doesn't matter how much they spent this year. It's the years of corruption that enabled them to build the infrastructure to land the players and the coaches required to achieve their success. They're not in a bubble. You can't just ignore the past Everything is connected. The stain that Sheik Mansour has brought to this league is shameful.

  • @city4ever642

    @city4ever642

    Ай бұрын

    @@therealking6202so why didn’t they get punished before? Surely there was rules back then right? Oh wait… those rules only started when city started beating the media darling clubs. Where’s the same energy when Chelsea were spending back then?? All of sudden you want to make rules about spending when these rules weren’t even implemented until recent? These media darling clubs are losing there minds cause city is the best run club in the world who don’t spent 100 million on Antony and Nunez and mudryk and Caicedo, and maguire. Don’t blame city for others teams incompetence

  • @sf5912

    @sf5912

    Ай бұрын

    @@therealking6202 Well said! I feel sorry for 115 FC fans as they don't seem to understand that it never pays to cheat in life... 115 FC would have got more respect if they had accepted their punishment rather than buying the titie again. It's all meaningless and will be tarnished forever.

  • @DC-zi6se

    @DC-zi6se

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@therealking6202 Sounds more like a frustrated rant than anything else 😅

  • @matthewwalker2281
    @matthewwalker2281Ай бұрын

    There seems a massive disconnect between the main stream media and the average football fan on this subject. The main stream media gush over 4 in a row but fans of clubs who have had points deducted for doing a fraction of what Man City are accused of can't help but see these successes as tarnished.

  • @paulbrickland9625

    @paulbrickland9625

    22 күн бұрын

    He teams who've had points deducted were in fact guilty they moan about it but they voted for the rules and city are innocent why do you think the pl is taking so long they can't find any proof

  • @nhlakaniphomkhize108
    @nhlakaniphomkhize108Ай бұрын

    United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool have spent roughly as much, but some of those teams are a shambles. City are winners with or without the charges. PEP would've done the same with the Liverpool or Arsenal team. Their players are just as good as City's. Its the style of play and motivation from Pep that sees City keep on winning. And ofcourse people will be jealous. Most of these idiots commenting about the charges dont even know what they are.

  • @mikee7406

    @mikee7406

    Ай бұрын

    United have spent more. Chelsea and Arsenal the last 2 years. Klopps Liverpool net is about 9th

  • @coryevans6093

    @coryevans6093

    Ай бұрын

    Liverpool haven't spent anywhere near what city have and pep certainly wouldn't have won what Liverpool has with a net spend less than west ham.

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    Ай бұрын

    Liverpool are you joking haha

  • @user-cs1dt2xw4c
    @user-cs1dt2xw4cАй бұрын

    Best lawyers of all time 115 charges ,

  • @tomben6180

    @tomben6180

    Ай бұрын

    Erm no, City have the number 3 litigation lawyer in the U.K. and the Premier League have 4th and 5th best on their team.

  • @makcity7850

    @makcity7850

    Ай бұрын

    IF the evidence and proof is there, then lawyers would not be able to do anything.... tells us something.

  • @spark556

    @spark556

    Ай бұрын

    Gonna cry?

  • @Fmfcg
    @FmfcgАй бұрын

    My favourite C115y players are Ph11 F5den, R5dr11, De Br115ne and Bernardo S11v5

  • @jalberto428

    @jalberto428

    Ай бұрын

    Cry more

  • @michaeldineen2571

    @michaeldineen2571

    Ай бұрын

    If you're older than 12 you need to have a long hard look at yourself

  • @city4ever642

    @city4ever642

    Ай бұрын

    Pls keep crying 😢 😂😂😂

  • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

    @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

    Ай бұрын

    Fa115ke Charges 😂

  • @BigStuCorby

    @BigStuCorby

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@jalberto428Burner

  • @MCFCTheMadHatter
    @MCFCTheMadHatterАй бұрын

    Saying that LFC teams of the past wouldn’t have allowed City to play their style of football bc the rules have changed is absolutely idiotic. Would LFC players of the 70s and 80s have fouled the hell out of the current City squad? 100%. But there’s a flip side to that. How do you know City’s style, allowing them to be equally as aggressive, wouldn’t be able to still play their style? That logic only work if you say City would have to play vs LFC of the 70s/80s by todays standards but LFC could play by their standards, which of course is idiotic and makes no sense bc it’s a false comparison

  • @mikem8211
    @mikem8211Ай бұрын

    115 FC to win it every year because no one knows any of their fan's makes sense.

  • @Robedon
    @RobedonАй бұрын

    Only two ways the fake charges can end. 1. Prem Kangaroo court backs down asks City to pay a fine and hope City don't sue for reputation damage. Or 1, Prem Kangaroo court finds City Guilty. 2, City Take prem to real UK and European courts. 3, real courts overule Prem kangaroo court in less than five minutes for faking evidence via retrospective charges. (Eg. Grass length in 2019 broke 2014 rules, etc) 4, City sue the Prem for the deliberate reputation damage dragging it out has been intended to cause. 5, Bosman ruling looks tiny in comparison. Have fun coping...

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    Ай бұрын

    Which "fake charges" are you talking about? I'm not aware of any "fake charges", I only know about the 115 real ones.

  • @Robedon

    @Robedon

    Ай бұрын

    @FreshAlchemy it's illegal to use rules from a different year to create an offence to charge anybody with. Have fun with reality when City beat it.

  • @denisako6493
    @denisako6493Ай бұрын

    Remember Lance Armstrong??

  • @juliusoba6488

    @juliusoba6488

    Ай бұрын

    Are City accused of drugs cheating?

  • @DC-zi6se

    @DC-zi6se

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@juliusoba6488 actually the steroid analogy is that of money. But, I don't think it's a good one.

  • @alexanderhowcroft8779

    @alexanderhowcroft8779

    Ай бұрын

    @@juliusoba6488financial doping ya pleb

  • @mikee7406

    @mikee7406

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@juliusoba6488financial doping. Achieves the same thing. IE tip the marginal gains overwhelmingly in your favour. Although to be fair to Lance half the cyclists were at it.

  • @marshallm7339

    @marshallm7339

    Ай бұрын

    The literal Haaland deal is dubious. Agent and Dad were paid more than the release fee.

  • @user-kb7qj1ye2z
    @user-kb7qj1ye2zАй бұрын

    So so bitter.. The team was built and guided by Pep, the GOAT.. the foundations might be dodgy, but they built the house to stay sold.. It's hilarious to see fans that would give their right arms to be in City's shoes😂

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    Ай бұрын

    Nope, I like that my club has integrity and its foundations are not built upon 10 years of financial fraud and financial doping.

  • @lfcmyreligion932
    @lfcmyreligion932Ай бұрын

    So I guess you guys think lance Armstrong hasn’t been tarnished

  • @makcity7850

    @makcity7850

    Ай бұрын

    He was still the first man on the moon, I think he was dusty not tarnished.

  • @mervynpeters
    @mervynpetersАй бұрын

    Arsenal Liverpool Chelsea Aston Villa Spurs need to be brave and beat Man C and stop this league from becoming a 1 man team!

  • @ashwilliams4959
    @ashwilliams4959Ай бұрын

    Ally and jeff have been paid well to act like city are legit

  • @adamboow8299
    @adamboow8299Ай бұрын

    Wow. Is it just the media that is blinkered with this. Nobody talks about this yet all fans don't see city in the same vein. If you've got 115 charges hanging over your head.. all those trophies are tainted.

  • @ashwilliams4959

    @ashwilliams4959

    Ай бұрын

    Blinkered by £££ oil money talks remember

  • @steve-kl9iv
    @steve-kl9ivАй бұрын

    Sponsored themselves and pumped their own money into the club pretending it was income.

  • @Photosoflife
    @PhotosoflifeАй бұрын

    Are the accountants, lawyers, and owners playing the matches? No. You can highly respect the incredible standards achieved by Pep and his players for years while also objectively asking if City did indeed break FFP regulations. Both can be true. Pep and his players have zero involvement in the 115 charges. Their job is to perform on the pitch. Which they consistently do better than anyone.

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    Ай бұрын

    Its the project that was put in place to get pep and the players that was all based of fraud and cheating No one here is saying pep is not brilliant!!! He is But it was all build of the highest level of cheating and money fraud to get pep in and these players while all others followed the rules and were selling players to pay for other players and losing some of there best players due to not being able to pay salaries

  • @jacksparrow532

    @jacksparrow532

    Ай бұрын

    Can't help someone being deliberately obtuse, can we? Those players, managers, all the top facilities, etc etc which helped City to win all these things, should not have been there in the first place. These all came from "cooking the books". Hence the 115 charges and hence majority of footballing world not respecting the achievements. Hope that clears. (Pep didn't do it, players didn't do it, blah blah blah.....these sympathies are not relevant. Nobody is blaming players or managers or staff. They are top players and top manager...no body is denying that)

  • @kennethnoel1257

    @kennethnoel1257

    Ай бұрын

    No but it's the accountant and lawyers that help cook the books so he could get the players.

  • @Photosoflife

    @Photosoflife

    Ай бұрын

    @@jacksparrow532 It’s not being deliberately obtuse. None of those accountants, lawyers, and owners are kicking a single ball or participating in a single training session. As Chelsea and United have demonstrated, you can spend all the money you want but that doesn’t mean anything. The players still have to perform and the coaches still have to maintain elite standards. It’s not that complicated. What Pep and his players have done for years is amazing. And Pep has done it wherever he has been as a coach. The man is obsessed with winning.

  • @Photosoflife

    @Photosoflife

    Ай бұрын

    @@kennethnoel1257 And? Those accountants can cook the books all they want but spending tons of money doesn’t mean the players will be elite or perform. Just look at Chelsea and United.

  • @ryangloria2068
    @ryangloria2068Ай бұрын

    115 will continue to win and keep getting away with it.

  • @breach5257
    @breach5257Ай бұрын

    City fans still think money has nothing to do with their success 🤣🤣

  • @tomben6180

    @tomben6180

    Ай бұрын

    Money does have to do with success but under Guardiola we have spent the 4th most in the Premier League. You need a big budget to dominate but it’s one of many reasons why teams are successful. It’s a bit like saying Lewis Hamilton has a fast car that’s why he’s good. Yeah but other people have similar cars!

  • @GarfyB

    @GarfyB

    Ай бұрын

    same as Liverpool, arsenal, united & Chelsea - who have all spent more money last 5 years - but oh wait - they haven't had any success - so obviously money isn't the key to success !!!!!

  • @user-zh2nh6fi1v

    @user-zh2nh6fi1v

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@GarfyBStop taking your comment seriously when you said Liverpool haven't had any success. And Liverpool haven't spent more than City.

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    Ай бұрын

    @gary that’s completely irrelevant 😂😂 Also Liverpool won everything while following the rules and came second by 1 point twice. In that time Liverpool couldn’t afford to pay mane and gini the salaries they wanted so had to let them go and missed both loads!! They also had to sell suarez, torres and courtinho….. If you think thats not the difference in 1 point then 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @makcity7850

    @makcity7850

    Ай бұрын

    Every football fan admits money is needed in the Premier League era, only jealous rivals trot out that myth.

  • @anuragdandekar6064
    @anuragdandekar6064Ай бұрын

    They should all get 115 printed on the back of their shirts as thats the real reason for their success

  • @abhijithmammoottil3329

    @abhijithmammoottil3329

    Ай бұрын

    Not arsenal losing against villa? 😭

  • @richardj2216

    @richardj2216

    28 күн бұрын

    Jealous

  • @ahblezasellars
    @ahblezasellarsАй бұрын

    It may not tarnish the efforts of the players on the field., But it will absolutely tarnish the rewards of those efforts.

  • @TheMrClutchy
    @TheMrClutchyАй бұрын

    I’m having a great time reading all the salty comments from arsenal and Liverpool fans 😂

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    Ай бұрын

    The best thing about it all Is man city have won the treble and 4 in a row and no one cares 😂😂😂 Not one fan respects any of it 😂

  • @TheMrClutchy

    @TheMrClutchy

    Ай бұрын

    @@docholiday-lm4vf yeah I always go and tell random people how much I don’t care about things too mate.

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    Ай бұрын

    Why do you think Liverpool and man utd fans etc wanted city to win the league yesterday??!! Other fans would rather them get 4 in a row than see arsenal win 1 Why do you think that is?? 😂😂😂

  • @Quattro_Joe
    @Quattro_JoeАй бұрын

    They’ve financially doped the entire squad it absolutely tarnishes any achievement they get.

  • @jahmallmontana5003
    @jahmallmontana5003Ай бұрын

    Not a city fan but Man U and Chelsea have been buying the best players for years. Yes they have 115 charges, how does the charges affect how the players perform on the field? There’s teams now who spent the most and players and yet none of these players are performing on the field.

  • @BrainwashingBritishCitizens
    @BrainwashingBritishCitizensАй бұрын

    The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears

  • @nosiku8325
    @nosiku8325Ай бұрын

    The problem these pundits focuses on now and not there foundations. Today clubs are paying over the odds because of what city did. This team needs relegating

  • @kennethnoel1257
    @kennethnoel1257Ай бұрын

    Wtf you two on about, they couldn't have gotten the players etc if city wasn't cooking the books.

  • @environm3ntalist549

    @environm3ntalist549

    Ай бұрын

    Why shouldnt some clubs be allowed to spend more than others? Imagine if that logic was applied to any other industry? Let them spend what they wish. Even then, Man Utd spent more.

  • @benmarcus587

    @benmarcus587

    Ай бұрын

    Mate the main media won't speak the truth or actually understand it. We all know City have cheated.

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    Ай бұрын

    It’s remarkable listening to them

  • @kennethnoel1257

    @kennethnoel1257

    Ай бұрын

    @@environm3ntalist549 they are, if the club made the money and not cook the books, clubs are allowed to spend more than other. That's why a club like Brighton can spend more than...let's say a crystal palace because they do good business and make a lot of money through player sales etc

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    Ай бұрын

    @envir that’s irrelevant 😂😂 So you dont agree with the rules…. Most dont mate but the difference here is the other teams followed the rules which massively made them weaker while man city moved money about to pay players higher salaries and but more and more top players and ot allowed the club to get pep Its cheating on the higbest level of football

  • @alunedwards9800
    @alunedwards9800Ай бұрын

    The sheer fact city will more than likely get away with this diabolical scandal will kill football and financial fair play rules that other clubs have to abide by except Chelsea or as bad as man city

  • @gonzaloolguin5980
    @gonzaloolguin5980Ай бұрын

    Football it's on the pitch, always. The only way you can tarnish what happens on the pitch it's with players doing illegal bets or actual drug-based doping.

  • @spark556
    @spark556Ай бұрын

    None of them have been proved so why it would tarnish anything?

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    Ай бұрын

    Duhhhhhhhhh

  • @mancuniangamecat8288
    @mancuniangamecat8288Ай бұрын

    With all these salty tears I'm surprised there isn't a flood warning. 😂

  • @makcity7850

    @makcity7850

    Ай бұрын

    Confirmed that rival fans tears are actual causing sea levels to rise and not global warming. Because their owns teams are in the mud, they can only parrot out the dead meme "115 charges" to hide their jealousy...

  • @lukemckevitt602

    @lukemckevitt602

    Ай бұрын

    115 charges 🤫

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    Ай бұрын

    Childish response to 115 charges of financial fraud and financial doping.

  • @ashwilliams4959

    @ashwilliams4959

    Ай бұрын

    Seeing alot of confused city fans, started supporting the club for glory but aren't getting any respect for it

  • @theone4808

    @theone4808

    Ай бұрын

    Pep Lance Armstrong Guardiola 😂😂

  • @williamneailey6756
    @williamneailey6756Ай бұрын

    The club might be but the players are not they have been bought to play football which they do better than other teams its up to other teams to improve to catch up there was nothing said when man utd arsenal and Liverpool were dominating in their times stop the whinging city are a brilliant team 😊 Ps im not a city fan btw😊

  • @user-ql5hu1nl5d
    @user-ql5hu1nl5dАй бұрын

    Yes 115 allegations put a major doubt on Man City's accomplishments until they clear their name. End of story.

  • @rj6657
    @rj6657Ай бұрын

    Too late Tarnished Already and PL should not let this hang over all, it is sad.

  • @gotgirth6912
    @gotgirth6912Ай бұрын

    If you financially dope and spend 2 billion pounds , I guess it'll never be tarnished with an asterix

  • @mickyarams

    @mickyarams

    Ай бұрын

    You mean United? They spent more money than City and are useless 😆

  • @city4ever642

    @city4ever642

    Ай бұрын

    Yet Chelsea and United can’t win a lick 😂😂😂

  • @93lornamae

    @93lornamae

    Ай бұрын

    Is that 2 billion pounds from when they were bought out? In 2008. If it is that's not bad tbh.

  • @MindfulnessGamer
    @MindfulnessGamerАй бұрын

    Why doesn’t everyone just break the rules then? Clearly there’s no need to follow them…

  • @JetBazooka21
    @JetBazooka21Ай бұрын

    Is it really the players fault though ? They’re paid to do their job on the pitch and that’s what they’ve done.

  • @kezmankezman758
    @kezmankezman758Ай бұрын

    Money Cheaty will 100 per cent be tarnished. The other clubs must drag City through the courts, the longer the drama is played out the worse the damage to the club’s reputation 🤔

  • @Fernando-gt5jt
    @Fernando-gt5jtАй бұрын

    They have the best lawyers

  • @CJ4YRD
    @CJ4YRDАй бұрын

    Oh it does 😂. As it stands Pep sits behind Fergie.. those charges get proved he drops below Wenger and drops out of the top 5 managers in history.

  • @ThomasSloan-kz9fu
    @ThomasSloan-kz9fuАй бұрын

    while people talk about the 115 charges it will always be tarnished... brilliant manager, brilliant team and for me the best the premier league has ever seen... but you get a big asterisk next to them until they're either found innocent or guilty

  • @yasinsharb9453
    @yasinsharb9453Ай бұрын

    Guirassy from stuttgart would be absolutely right fit for arsenal or boniface.

  • @MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49
    @MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49Ай бұрын

    Hi Rivals..the sun is shining bright today... probably raining where you are .. unlucky 😂

  • @howlieMCFC
    @howlieMCFCАй бұрын

    Bitter as lemons 🏆🏆🏆🏆 up the blues

  • @Paddy-vc3fl
    @Paddy-vc3flАй бұрын

    They are a great team. Great players playing under a great manager with what is clearly a great team spirit, but is it tarnished ? Of course it is. Made worse by the fact that Everton and Forest got the hammer, and I think Leicester are facing the same fate. I was tuned in to Anfield yesterday for the big story of the day, and I'm not a Liveroool fan.

  • @timw08achwhia
    @timw08achwhiaАй бұрын

    Thats like saying Lance Armstrongs achievements weren't tarnished after he was found guilty of doping. If found guilty then everything 115 have ever won means absolutely nothing

  • @makcity7850

    @makcity7850

    Ай бұрын

    "After he was found guilty" - that statement say it all. Armchair supporters have already condemned them out of jealousy though, before any evidence has been shown or proven.

  • @timw08achwhia

    @timw08achwhia

    Ай бұрын

    @@makcity7850 anyone with half a brain cell knows city are guilty. More commercial income than united, bayern and Madrid combined apparently 🤣🤣🤣. Every city fan, player and coach knows these victories/titles are hollow, they dont mean anything to the average fan, they dont respect you, they don't admire you and nobody has any time for scumbag cheats. JUSTICE IS COMING FOR YOU IN 115 DIFFERENT WAYS 😉

  • @Lioness_UTV
    @Lioness_UTVАй бұрын

    They are absolutely tarnished not as individuals but as a collective as is Pep. Who btw I am not quite convinced he wasn't aware of the shell game accounting activities or something. Its a real shame as Pep is a great manager and he gathered a great team.

  • @SwiftGifts-ni6qz
    @SwiftGifts-ni6qzАй бұрын

    And just to think it was all from 1 Chris woods (open goal miss) away from blowing it 😅

  • @tafarab1
    @tafarab1Ай бұрын

    Without the charges there are no “these players”

  • @theone4808
    @theone4808Ай бұрын

    115 charges don't tarnish the titles 😂😂😂. Are you sure about that 😂

  • @sean5811
    @sean5811Ай бұрын

    I loved how Man City fans were showing the premier league with a number 4 on it. I thought there's another 111 to add to that. Corrupt club with tarnished silver wear. You obviously don't listen to football fans. Everybody mentioned the 115 yesterday

  • @socratesknows
    @socratesknowsАй бұрын

    It absolutely does. If you can build a better squad from financial doping. You are cheating. That squad doesn't exist if they follow the rules. Pep can't sign full back after full back or centre back after centre back until he gets what he needs. It's that simple. Relegate them from the football league. 16 years of cheating, 16 years of undeserved success. Punishment needs to fit the crime.

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    Ай бұрын

    100%, well said.

  • @danogunner
    @danogunnerАй бұрын

    Ha ha, unless those titles get taken away like Juventus’s did

  • @oufc90
    @oufc90Ай бұрын

    Over the last 10 years Manchester City have been absolutely amazing. Particularly under Guardiola. Best English team I’ve seen in my lifetime, possibly only second to Barcelona circa 2010. Congratulations to them, they’ve deserved it. 👏

  • @Redballoon99

    @Redballoon99

    Ай бұрын

    no cheats deserve anything other than punishments

  • @chamartinpl

    @chamartinpl

    Ай бұрын

    haha Real Madrid? All the money, all the charges just to win one UCL. Madrid transition team have knocked them out 2 times in the last 3 years. Real Madrid 2014-2018 were far better team.

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    Ай бұрын

    Barcelona aren't an English team. Perhaps you need to learn how to structure a sentence properly. So thick, no wonder you can't understand what's going on.

  • @nathanprice1841
    @nathanprice1841Ай бұрын

    Ask the fans that same question and see what the response is?

  • @rj6657
    @rj6657Ай бұрын

    Sad day for PL allow Man City to pay for refs to work in other countries. Conflict of interest

  • @benjema112
    @benjema112Ай бұрын

    This has got to be cap right ally used to play ffs. every city title is tarnished infact imo they dont really count as they have a different set of rules to every other team everything they have ever won is reward for cheating the worst and most corrupt thing to ever happen in football history its as simple as that.

  • @JayDee-rm4zz
    @JayDee-rm4zzАй бұрын

    This city team is the best team that the prem has produced and you have to respect their achievements it’s incredible. But if it’s found out they have cheated to get to the promise land. It will absolutely be tarnished.

  • @RhysAdams-ur3om
    @RhysAdams-ur3omАй бұрын

    Man City winning a fourth Premier League in a row. Amazing what can be achieved with £2 billion, a manager with an offshore account, a suspended 2-year ban from European competition and 115 charges of financial irregularity.

  • @ashwilliams4959

    @ashwilliams4959

    Ай бұрын

    And a pgmol set up to make you win

  • @100ah3
    @100ah3Ай бұрын

    Fiddling the books so no other teams can compete! Basically having 2 teams in your squad that can win the League. The League is ruined and wont be fixed till City and Chelsea get what they deserve which is relegation

  • @dominicmajor
    @dominicmajorАй бұрын

    So funny how many salty Liverpool and united fans there are. Get over it you guys used to spend the most money and bought titles too. I’m not a city fan but facts are facts they are the best team this country has ever produced get over it

  • @Lioness_UTV
    @Lioness_UTVАй бұрын

    So once again the question is raised. Why are the 115 charges still unresolved, why isn't this transparent. If there weren't any evidence of a hidden shell game accounting activities then how could they charge them?

  • @marzipanmonkey
    @marzipanmonkeyАй бұрын

    Sorry, but how does it NOT tarnish their achievements if they are found to have cheated and gained an unfair advantage over the rest of the league and all the clubs that have come and gone in that time? Call a spade a spade.

  • @chadbretao508
    @chadbretao508Ай бұрын

    Man city are the best team without question but all the charges hangimg over them and no punishemt when smaller clubs get docked points do they really deserve it

  • @Consigliere211
    @Consigliere211Ай бұрын

    These two already took Nazi gold 😂

  • @FreshAlchemy

    @FreshAlchemy

    Ай бұрын

    it's 2024, get your references up to date, fool.

  • @altberlin3826
    @altberlin3826Ай бұрын

    How many would it take then 200? Unbelievable

  • @philbourne548
    @philbourne548Ай бұрын

    Hard to imagine a dumber comment. IF they’re guilty, the team only exists because they cheated

  • @Jacob56-xl4xo

    @Jacob56-xl4xo

    Ай бұрын

    Doesn't matter we're the GOAT

  • @philbourne548

    @philbourne548

    Ай бұрын

    @@Jacob56-xl4xo Oh. there is a dumber comment! You won’t be much of a goat if all your titles are stripped and your playing in League 1

  • @Jacob56-xl4xo

    @Jacob56-xl4xo

    Ай бұрын

    @@philbourne548 Haha delusional clown

  • @craigjames6904
    @craigjames6904Ай бұрын

    Of course it tarnishes them ridiculous from 2 legends

  • @pato2200
    @pato2200Ай бұрын

    Don't Pannick! Don't Pannick!

  • @mervynpeters
    @mervynpetersАй бұрын

    Pep is a great manager. Players are top talent. And Man C fans love their club. Remember the rule breaking over the years has enabled Man C to build a strong base. Pep and his players unfortunately have this legacy.

  • @JoaoJeremias-ol8lv
    @JoaoJeremias-ol8lvАй бұрын

    Who is the 20 goal striker a season at arsenal?

  • @Rtd22375
    @Rtd22375Ай бұрын

    I would rather win nothing than cheat.. you think the players would think the success isn't tarnished if found guilty... Talksport talking absolutely nonsense but they have since day one so at least they are consistent

  • @BadAppleBlues

    @BadAppleBlues

    Ай бұрын

    if Talksport has talked nonsense since day one why do you tune in ......stick to radio5 live lol

  • @user-md9sp5nc2c
    @user-md9sp5nc2cАй бұрын

    aye it’s does because they all wouldn’t be there if not for cheating

  • @siddheshgothankar8298
    @siddheshgothankar8298Ай бұрын

    This legal department of city is either evil or stupid, its just because of them one of the greatest side doesn't get the respect it deserves

  • @roccoparks
    @roccoparksАй бұрын

    That’s what you want us to believe unfortunately real fans are not as stupid and delusional as you think

  • @johnhume4346
    @johnhume4346Ай бұрын

    Yeah sure, everyone just remembers those 7 tour de france wins by Lance Armstrong 🙄

  • @Consigliere211

    @Consigliere211

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly !

  • @abhijithmammoottil3329

    @abhijithmammoottil3329

    Ай бұрын

    Not the same is it john? City are accused of breaking ffp rules which were designed in favour of clubs like united and liverpool so that no one can dethrone them. It's not the same as doping is it now

  • @Hinderz
    @HinderzАй бұрын

    It tarnishes the whole league (due to their inability to resolve the problem) but it absolutely tarnishes what city have done.

  • @kaisersolo76
    @kaisersolo76Ай бұрын

    What nonsesne is this. Yes these players are a direct result of those 115+ charges as they would not of won so many titles due not being able to to attract or recruitment so many top players.

  • @tomben6180
    @tomben6180Ай бұрын

    I am guessing all these people in these comments who are already talking as if City have been found guilty will be holding their hands up and apologising if the case comes back with a not guilty verdict… AGAIN???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨

  • @nathanprice1841

    @nathanprice1841

    Ай бұрын

    They weren't found 'not guilty' the first time around but their lawyers found a clause. The case was thrown out because of the time that had elapsed. That clause isn't in the FA's contract, as it was with Uefa.

  • @peterpurpleheartparade5357
    @peterpurpleheartparade5357Ай бұрын

    Best Team in the land and all the world 🩵

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    Ай бұрын

    Which was all build off cheating

  • @rickyfittss
    @rickyfittssАй бұрын

    Okay so neither were Lance Armstrong's. A cheat is a cheat.

  • @86Brasco
    @86BrascoАй бұрын

    Poor take Ally. Sure that's his opinion but it's not the common opinion. Alot of what they have done is tainted

  • @BowtiesAreC00l
    @BowtiesAreC00lАй бұрын

    It does tarnish them. Does anyone believe Guardiola or even a single player in that team would be there if it were not for the money, and by extension, the dodgy deals? They would not. Not a single one. City were a yoyo team before the Arab money and dodgy goings on arrived, and there's a decent chance they still would be today had history been different. As a group of players, yes they are exceptional, and in that context, then they are not to blame, but let's not kid ourselves and believe they would be playing for City without the rest of the City 'package'.

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