Jeep Patriot Upper Control Arm & Lateral Toe Link Replacement + Bushing Preload & Torque Specs
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@MrDodgyh2 жыл бұрын
Well produced and informative video as always. Thank you for your time and knowledge.
@magnustorque55287 күн бұрын
Top notch videos (all of them).
@amrindergill7218 Жыл бұрын
Why only few views… its the best channel with detailed step by step instructions for replacing auto parts …. But thanku for making such a great video
@mtlcarguy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! ...I don't know why, but I will not change my voice-over video presentations even if the end result is more tutorial than entertaining.
@gods959 Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 The video that I thought would not matter helped me the most 👍🙏❤️
@filmic1 Жыл бұрын
Merci! I just had new rear control arms on my 2008 Patriot N. 4x2 before they installed my new winter tires. Nice to follow along here. Thank you. Je vous remerci....
@tylerwharper5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video!!!
@lennycoluccio91296 ай бұрын
Hello so all these new parts whitch I have that will give me the ride highth back for my 2010 patriot 4x4 ,because I'm going through rear tires a year and 2 yrs ago I replaced the latiral bones
@TheRafrif Жыл бұрын
People (making the videos on this particular fix) only show the procedure for the passenger side... The driver's side is much more difficult. I need guidance on what to do with the additional obstacles on the driver's side inner upper control arm.
@mtlcarguy
Жыл бұрын
I did not film the driver side but I don't remember having any problem undoing the upper bolt. You could try different tools to reach the bolt.
@tylerbailey470
11 ай бұрын
@@mtlcarguy hey I have a ,2016patriot and suddenly have bad camber wear on the inner rear is that alignment or a part gone bad just coincidently on both sides at similar times
@mtlcarguy
11 ай бұрын
@@tylerbailey470 This kind of problem can be caused by rubber bushing that is not bonded to the steel arm. It can also be a coincidence with both sides since the steel arms rust at the same speed. Weak coil springs can also affect the geometry of the multi-link suspension.
@shans_gj Жыл бұрын
Thanks you
@phiggins9410 ай бұрын
Great video as always! However I can’t for the life of me get the lower bolt from the lateral toe link loose!? I was scared I was going to shear the head off so stopped… any ideas?
@mtlcarguy
10 ай бұрын
When a big bolt is stock in a welded nut like this one, most of the time it is because the threads are corroded or rusted. Penetrating fluid can be added 2 or 3 times to help. This type of bolt is usually made with high strength steel, so I would normally use a cheater bar with a 6 point impact socket to loosen it. If you are not sure about the risk of damaging the bolt, you should try a strong impact tool with a 6 point impact socket. Heating up this welded bolt is hazardous so I would not try it.
@louganies4 күн бұрын
How did you figure out the control arm need changing?
@mtlcarguy
4 күн бұрын
Because of the noise and and also because one rubber boot of the spherical bearing was damaged.
@sergebouchard5908 Жыл бұрын
Great video mtlcarguy, I wish I had it when I replaced my rear suspension parts, I still have very bad wear on the inside rears, do you think I could adjust the rear toe links so to not wear so badly? I use this car only to work and back . I think I didn't install the link adjusters properly .I just replaced the clutch master cylinder, it was Not an easy job, took forever to figure out how to bleed. Thank you
@mtlcarguy
Жыл бұрын
Selon la documentation de Jeep, l'alignement des roues en avant et en arrière devrait avoir un ''Toe '' individuel de + 0.10 degré ( ou acceptable de 0.00 degré à +0.20 degré. Techniquement les pneus en arrières devraient être pratiquement en ligne avec ceux d'en avant. Je trouve qu'il est plus facile d'aligner les pneus d'en arrière parce qu'ils ne sont pas reliés à le colone de direction comme en avant. Le vehicle doit être sur une surface plane avec le volant droit vers l'avant. Quand la ''cam bolt '' (excentrique) du ''toe link'' est déserrée elle peut être tournée pour obtenir un ''Toe'' positif (+) ou négatif (-). Après la ''cam bolt'' est reserrée à 26 livres -pied . En utilisant une corde sur le côté des pneus (String Alignment) il est possible d'obtenir un alignement de base pour réduire l'usure des pneus arrières. Cependant c'est moins précis qu'un alignement au garage.
@sergebouchard5908
Жыл бұрын
@@mtlcarguy merci MTLCARGUY I will translate into english , so I don't miss any of the finer points. My french is pretty good but I want to make sure not to miss something. Your videos are the best. 👍
@mtlcarguy
Жыл бұрын
@@sergebouchard5908 I wrote in french because of your name. But if something is too confusing, you can ask about it and I will write back to you in English.
@manuelm_007
Жыл бұрын
@@mtlcarguy Love your videos and appreciate the effort you put into making them. I have a question. I’m trying to install a rack and pinion seal kit and I can’t get the plastic 4 outer nut from the bottom of the steering rack. Would you by chance know how to disassemble the steering rack to install the new seal kit. Thanks in advance any info will help.
@mtlcarguy
Жыл бұрын
@@manuelm_007 Open this PDF kink and you will find the rack and pinion removal procedure and more. www.google.ca/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.slideshare.net%2Fgustavocastro75098364%2Ffront-suspension-51063906&psig=AOvVaw1vTiH9G_yCwPAmjqe9Ay_b&ust=1690646748318000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBMQjhxqGAoTCIDWoonksYADFQAAAAAdAAAAABCQAQ
@alexanderdashkov4350 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Is the nut for the toe link to trailing link, the one you said is hard to get at so you used a smaller socket, is that 18" or 19", also whats the brand of socket you used to get at that small space?
@mtlcarguy
Жыл бұрын
The outer nut for the toe link was a bit difficult to loosen but the bolt that was difficult to undo was the one holding the inner end of the upper control arm. In the small area, I used a 3/8'' drive small torque wrench (5-80 FT-LBS) with a short 18 MM socket (Milwaukee or Mastercraft)
@oscarsantiago9685 Жыл бұрын
👌👌👌👌
@piva842 ай бұрын
Hi! Is the preload measurement (17.5”) a standard or it would vary from one vehicle to another?
@mtlcarguy
2 ай бұрын
Buongiorno ! There is no real standard. You simply measure it on your vehicle on an even ground, because it varies a little depending on the strength of the coil spring, on the age of the coil spring and on the optional suspension available on different Patriot/Compass.
@piva84
2 ай бұрын
@@mtlcarguy thanks a lot! I’ve just replaced the whole rear suspensions of my wife’s 2011 Jeep Patriot..rear subframe was completely rusted out! Having some issues with the alignment but I think I figured it out..
@mtlcarguy
2 ай бұрын
@@piva84 Years ago, I received a service bulletin from Jeep that extended the warranty up to 10 years to replace the damaged front and/or the rear subframe(s). I had the parts replaced for free 7 years ago. I only payed for the alignment.
@piva84
2 ай бұрын
@@mtlcarguy I've check that. They told me the warranty was expired 3 years ago on mine. So I had to do it myself. I'm still struggling to get the vehicle aligned. If loosen up all the bolts, let the vehicle sit on the rear suspensions, measure the distance between the center of the wheel and the fender and then lift it up again, preload the struts to the same distance and tighten the bolts...that should work right? I'm not able to tight all the bolts properly when the vehicle is on the ground...thanks!
@mtlcarguy
2 ай бұрын
@@piva84 You can also lower and sit the 2 rear wheels on pieces of wood to have the rear suspension in normal load condition and at the same time have more space to move and tighten the bolts and nuts.
@Souls-iq8to7 ай бұрын
First of all, thanks for the videos. They really help! I have a question: For the toe link, can I replace it without removing the shock and the upper control arm? also, I translated the French message you wrote for someone else. It mentioned that I should loosen the cam bolt while the truck is on the ground, with the wheels facing straight. Should I lift it up and replace it once I loosen the cam bolt? or keep it on the ground?
@mtlcarguy
7 ай бұрын
Ref. question 1: Yes... but the trailing link can be more difficult to fit with the toe link. Ref. question 2: The comment in french was not specifically related to this video. The text was only described for a ''toe in'' or a ''toe out'' homemade basic alignment when the wheels were obviously not aligned. If the rear alignment was fine before you replaced your toe links, the bolts are normally tightened based on the previous cam bolt positions. Most of the people do not perform a homemade alignment, they have the wheel alignment done by a specialist or they simply keep the previous toe settings if they think the rear alignment was fine. Jeep recommends a wheel alignment when the toe links are replaced.
Пікірлер: 42
Well produced and informative video as always. Thank you for your time and knowledge.
Top notch videos (all of them).
Why only few views… its the best channel with detailed step by step instructions for replacing auto parts …. But thanku for making such a great video
@mtlcarguy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! ...I don't know why, but I will not change my voice-over video presentations even if the end result is more tutorial than entertaining.
Great video 👍 The video that I thought would not matter helped me the most 👍🙏❤️
Merci! I just had new rear control arms on my 2008 Patriot N. 4x2 before they installed my new winter tires. Nice to follow along here. Thank you. Je vous remerci....
Thank you for this video!!!
Hello so all these new parts whitch I have that will give me the ride highth back for my 2010 patriot 4x4 ,because I'm going through rear tires a year and 2 yrs ago I replaced the latiral bones
People (making the videos on this particular fix) only show the procedure for the passenger side... The driver's side is much more difficult. I need guidance on what to do with the additional obstacles on the driver's side inner upper control arm.
@mtlcarguy
Жыл бұрын
I did not film the driver side but I don't remember having any problem undoing the upper bolt. You could try different tools to reach the bolt.
@tylerbailey470
11 ай бұрын
@@mtlcarguy hey I have a ,2016patriot and suddenly have bad camber wear on the inner rear is that alignment or a part gone bad just coincidently on both sides at similar times
@mtlcarguy
11 ай бұрын
@@tylerbailey470 This kind of problem can be caused by rubber bushing that is not bonded to the steel arm. It can also be a coincidence with both sides since the steel arms rust at the same speed. Weak coil springs can also affect the geometry of the multi-link suspension.
Thanks you
Great video as always! However I can’t for the life of me get the lower bolt from the lateral toe link loose!? I was scared I was going to shear the head off so stopped… any ideas?
@mtlcarguy
10 ай бұрын
When a big bolt is stock in a welded nut like this one, most of the time it is because the threads are corroded or rusted. Penetrating fluid can be added 2 or 3 times to help. This type of bolt is usually made with high strength steel, so I would normally use a cheater bar with a 6 point impact socket to loosen it. If you are not sure about the risk of damaging the bolt, you should try a strong impact tool with a 6 point impact socket. Heating up this welded bolt is hazardous so I would not try it.
How did you figure out the control arm need changing?
@mtlcarguy
4 күн бұрын
Because of the noise and and also because one rubber boot of the spherical bearing was damaged.
Great video mtlcarguy, I wish I had it when I replaced my rear suspension parts, I still have very bad wear on the inside rears, do you think I could adjust the rear toe links so to not wear so badly? I use this car only to work and back . I think I didn't install the link adjusters properly .I just replaced the clutch master cylinder, it was Not an easy job, took forever to figure out how to bleed. Thank you
@mtlcarguy
Жыл бұрын
Selon la documentation de Jeep, l'alignement des roues en avant et en arrière devrait avoir un ''Toe '' individuel de + 0.10 degré ( ou acceptable de 0.00 degré à +0.20 degré. Techniquement les pneus en arrières devraient être pratiquement en ligne avec ceux d'en avant. Je trouve qu'il est plus facile d'aligner les pneus d'en arrière parce qu'ils ne sont pas reliés à le colone de direction comme en avant. Le vehicle doit être sur une surface plane avec le volant droit vers l'avant. Quand la ''cam bolt '' (excentrique) du ''toe link'' est déserrée elle peut être tournée pour obtenir un ''Toe'' positif (+) ou négatif (-). Après la ''cam bolt'' est reserrée à 26 livres -pied . En utilisant une corde sur le côté des pneus (String Alignment) il est possible d'obtenir un alignement de base pour réduire l'usure des pneus arrières. Cependant c'est moins précis qu'un alignement au garage.
@sergebouchard5908
Жыл бұрын
@@mtlcarguy merci MTLCARGUY I will translate into english , so I don't miss any of the finer points. My french is pretty good but I want to make sure not to miss something. Your videos are the best. 👍
@mtlcarguy
Жыл бұрын
@@sergebouchard5908 I wrote in french because of your name. But if something is too confusing, you can ask about it and I will write back to you in English.
@manuelm_007
Жыл бұрын
@@mtlcarguy Love your videos and appreciate the effort you put into making them. I have a question. I’m trying to install a rack and pinion seal kit and I can’t get the plastic 4 outer nut from the bottom of the steering rack. Would you by chance know how to disassemble the steering rack to install the new seal kit. Thanks in advance any info will help.
@mtlcarguy
Жыл бұрын
@@manuelm_007 Open this PDF kink and you will find the rack and pinion removal procedure and more. www.google.ca/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.slideshare.net%2Fgustavocastro75098364%2Ffront-suspension-51063906&psig=AOvVaw1vTiH9G_yCwPAmjqe9Ay_b&ust=1690646748318000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBMQjhxqGAoTCIDWoonksYADFQAAAAAdAAAAABCQAQ
Thanks for the video. Is the nut for the toe link to trailing link, the one you said is hard to get at so you used a smaller socket, is that 18" or 19", also whats the brand of socket you used to get at that small space?
@mtlcarguy
Жыл бұрын
The outer nut for the toe link was a bit difficult to loosen but the bolt that was difficult to undo was the one holding the inner end of the upper control arm. In the small area, I used a 3/8'' drive small torque wrench (5-80 FT-LBS) with a short 18 MM socket (Milwaukee or Mastercraft)
👌👌👌👌
Hi! Is the preload measurement (17.5”) a standard or it would vary from one vehicle to another?
@mtlcarguy
2 ай бұрын
Buongiorno ! There is no real standard. You simply measure it on your vehicle on an even ground, because it varies a little depending on the strength of the coil spring, on the age of the coil spring and on the optional suspension available on different Patriot/Compass.
@piva84
2 ай бұрын
@@mtlcarguy thanks a lot! I’ve just replaced the whole rear suspensions of my wife’s 2011 Jeep Patriot..rear subframe was completely rusted out! Having some issues with the alignment but I think I figured it out..
@mtlcarguy
2 ай бұрын
@@piva84 Years ago, I received a service bulletin from Jeep that extended the warranty up to 10 years to replace the damaged front and/or the rear subframe(s). I had the parts replaced for free 7 years ago. I only payed for the alignment.
@piva84
2 ай бұрын
@@mtlcarguy I've check that. They told me the warranty was expired 3 years ago on mine. So I had to do it myself. I'm still struggling to get the vehicle aligned. If loosen up all the bolts, let the vehicle sit on the rear suspensions, measure the distance between the center of the wheel and the fender and then lift it up again, preload the struts to the same distance and tighten the bolts...that should work right? I'm not able to tight all the bolts properly when the vehicle is on the ground...thanks!
@mtlcarguy
2 ай бұрын
@@piva84 You can also lower and sit the 2 rear wheels on pieces of wood to have the rear suspension in normal load condition and at the same time have more space to move and tighten the bolts and nuts.
First of all, thanks for the videos. They really help! I have a question: For the toe link, can I replace it without removing the shock and the upper control arm? also, I translated the French message you wrote for someone else. It mentioned that I should loosen the cam bolt while the truck is on the ground, with the wheels facing straight. Should I lift it up and replace it once I loosen the cam bolt? or keep it on the ground?
@mtlcarguy
7 ай бұрын
Ref. question 1: Yes... but the trailing link can be more difficult to fit with the toe link. Ref. question 2: The comment in french was not specifically related to this video. The text was only described for a ''toe in'' or a ''toe out'' homemade basic alignment when the wheels were obviously not aligned. If the rear alignment was fine before you replaced your toe links, the bolts are normally tightened based on the previous cam bolt positions. Most of the people do not perform a homemade alignment, they have the wheel alignment done by a specialist or they simply keep the previous toe settings if they think the rear alignment was fine. Jeep recommends a wheel alignment when the toe links are replaced.
@Souls-iq8to
7 ай бұрын
@mtlcarguy awesome! Thank you for the reply!