Brad, to clear things up a bit...there is essentially only one transfer case that is built for rugged off-road duty, and that's the one with low range or the MP3023 This is a 2 speed unit with a 2:72 low range. It's standard equipment on QuadraTrac II & QuadraDrive II vehicles. The difference between these two systems is that QuadraDrive has an ELSD. The ELSD can transfer torque on the rear axel side to side in essence it acts like a posi rear. All WK2's with a 2 speed transfer case come standard with the Select Terrain system which is a piggy back system onto the standard BLD or Brake Lock Differential system that all WK2's come with, even those with QuadraTrac I. QuadraTrac I is NOT available with SelecTerrain and do NOT come from the factory with a Trail Rated Badge. In order for a vehicle to have a Trail Rated Badge from the factory is must have either optioned Off-Road Adventure I or II. OffRoad Adventure I is now called All Weather Trail Rated Package. OffRoadII gets you QuadraLift & QuadraDriveII. I'm on my 2nd ownership of a Laredo with OffRoad I or the newer AllWeather Trail Rated Package, which by the way are coil spring Jeeps. I chose the coils because of reliability and better wheel travel. All Trail Rated badged WK2's come with front tow hooks,skid plates,2 speed t-case ,full size spare & a rear tow hook. If you opt for a tow package the rear tow hook gets deleted. Jeep has dumbed down and limited the All Weather Trail Rated Package only now availiable on the Laredo trim. That's a shame because it was a great value. I do some light wheeling & primarily use my Jeep for overlanding and I keep up with my buddies lifted & locked Pro4x Xterra & TacomaTRDPro no problem. QuadraTracII is a really good system .Low & slow will win every time, and the crawl ratio on V6 WK2's is better than in HEMI equipped vehicles With a 3:45 rear gear ratio and 4:71 first gear with a 2:72 low range transfer case you get a crawl ratio of 44:1. That's better that a whole lot of SUV's & pick ups out there. The WK2 is NOT a rock crawler but it can do some amazing things Cheers!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great summary!

@kevinwburke1

3 жыл бұрын

What works best for sand/beach conditions?

@TnTTyler

3 жыл бұрын

The rear ELSD also functions exactly like a locker and can be commanded to lock and unlock simply using the selec terrain settings

@HazardSports

2 жыл бұрын

@@TnTTyler Which Select Terrain setting will lock the ELSD? Snow / Mud ?

@TnTTyler

2 жыл бұрын

@@HazardSports Sand mode, Mud mode, ROck mode

I love watching the Grand Cherokee offroad. It makes me look forward to taking mine

Again...no surprise, your comparison was great and the explanations terrific! Bravo, Brad. I watch your videos because besides being highly entertaining they are also highly informative...and in my case, educational. Thank you.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Evan! See you in a couple of months!

@MrKozanitis

3 жыл бұрын

@prodigal Overland...definitely! Really excited about it, too!

Excellent video. Love that Jeep says it can do something, and you prove it. Also, the video shows me what my 18 GC limited is capable of. I won’t be rock crawling, but good to know it can get over some fairly tough terrain!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Well said! Thanks for watching!

Very helpful explanation for me as an owner of a 2017 Trailhawk with hemi 5.7 liter. Thank you!

@ProdigalOverland

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

All Weather Trails pkg on a Laredo is Trail Rated. Just no airbags. Load levelers w/ tow pkg rides great. Great video! Really shows difference in 4x4 and AWD. Bridgeport? Cool stuff.

THANNNNK YOOOUUU !!!!!....MAANNNN.ive been searching for THIS kind of vid for (EEVEERRR) as of 1-22-21 that is 🤣...... Been looking more and more into trckhawks as I have a summit *14 and always wanted hooks n plates! Absolutely appreciate your vids scince stumbling over your channel nearly a month ago! Getting siked for a new ride the more vids I see !👍🏾

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Happy to help! Thanks for the feedback!

Great to know I got the limited and did not know what I had, thanks!!!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

@jimwheeler6094

3 жыл бұрын

Quadra-Drive II is optional on the Limited.

Very informative, Thank you.

Great video, love these comparison clips you're doing. One thing, you can replace your quadra-lift system to coils, after they fail. Not straight forward, but done plenty. Also, there's a nice video by this Australian guy, comparing front lock to back lock to both. Turns out, a front locking capability is better to a back one, according to his findings, but you can also see that in your video, you could have used a front lock. Nice color combo, BTW, blue and yellow 😄

WJ Selec-Trac with Vari-locks and solid front & rear axles is BEST 🇺🇸

Love this channel! Decided to buy a 2017 Overland over a 3rd gen 4Runner. Kind of disappointed it doesn’t have the Quadra Drive, but it’s not the end of the world.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thanks for the video & info! Trying to decide right now which 4wd system we want and how difficult terrain we want to start with off pavement.

I'm glad I have an older model, WH with QDII (WK1 in US), that has an e-lsd in front and rear. Haven't had an issue so far

@jstitan2972

3 жыл бұрын

Its amazing when both diffs lock there is no stopping it.

Good demo comparing the active braking vs elsd.

Amazing video, thanks for explaining. Now I know that my overland has the Quadradrive II, not Quadra trac II as I previously thought. Im willing to bet that my Overland can go places no 4runner or tacoma or even Land Cruiser is capable of going

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Have fun out there!

@shaggyfries

2 жыл бұрын

Was your QDII added as an option? I see you can do that when building a new one Overland, my 2018 Overland has QTII per the sticker and build sheet.

I hafe my Trailhawk 3 Jears and i didnt use it Offroad but you make me hungry to do it ⛰ Greatings from Austria 🇦🇹

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Have fun!

I'm use to watching Silverado Trail Boss videos and they climb those hills with ease that Jeeps struggle with!

@timkincade9763

9 ай бұрын

No they don't. Go move some furniture

The Quadra Drive II ELSD is a very fast-acting device that allows little spin before locking the diff. It is superior to the earlier WK georotor mechanical clutch pack. All 4x4 vehicles with any type of Traction Control require vigorous use of the throttle to engage the control, and require vehicle in motion to become effective. Traction Control works poorly on stationary vehicles - you need forward motion for the computer to determine braking effect on the spinning wheels. A more aggressive throttle brings easier results and more grip. Air suspension allows variable height for offroad, while normal height for everyday driving. A great advantage. Thanks.

great video! i know one guy in Ukraine and he installed rear esld on his QT2 by himself but it works only in 2 modes open or locked diff.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

interesting!

These are great videos. Getting to know my new to me 17 GC Trailhawk V6 in Redline 2 coat pearl. Love it so far. Suggestions on good AT tires for the stock wheels? Thinking 32" OD.

Wow what a difference between the two

Great comparison Brad - exactly what people should see when making a decision between a QTII and a QDII equipped WK2. You can see the tremendous advantage the simple addition of the rear ELSD gives your Jeep over your companion’s vehicle, with nearly all obstacles. Now imagine if you had an ELSD in the front too! I had a 2005 WK 5.7 Limited with QDII, and I now have a 2015 WK2 Summit Ecodiesel with the newer QDII. While my latest rig is a superior vehicle as a daily driver and is quite capable off-road as your videos all demonstrate, my old WK with 2 sets of ELSD was definitely the better off road vehicle, even though it lacked the adjustable height air suspension of the new vehicle. It crawled over most obstacles like a tank, without any wheel spin from the front wheels. I also hope that someday Jeep brings back the front ELSD. The current QDII system should really be called QD1.5 - In my opinion Jeep misled people by calling both generations of drive system QDII. If you ever get an opportunity to compare the two different QDII systems, I’d love to see it!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see it as well. I’ll keep my eye out for one.

@macmurfy2jka

3 жыл бұрын

The old WK also had a solid axle in the rear?

@marcoantoniocasoascanio6905

2 жыл бұрын

I think the old Wk with QDll is much better than the new WK 2.

@totalvet

Жыл бұрын

Till I saw this video I didn't realise that Jeep had dropped the front e-LSD. Makes me glad still driving my old 2011 Overland but only just starting to explore its offroad capabilities.

@davidpowell6271

4 ай бұрын

I'm selling my 2006 CRD Limited QD2 and buying a 2015 5.7 Overland QD2 (QD1.5). The Overland has only travelled 22,000k.

Great video 👍

Awesome stuff!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

WK2 w/ ELSD is absolutely worth it. If I could not have gotten Quadra-Drive II on my 2015 WK2, then I would have bought the 4Runner w/ rear locker instead. All in, WK2 w/ ELSD and Quadralift is a much better "total OEM package" for most off road situations than a stock Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro. The Jeep has better ground clearance and (for me at least) better control off road (or perhaps it's just what I am more used to using when maneuvering through difficult trails in the woods?).

Great video

Most excellent real-world demonstration. I just bought a 2016 4x4 with 33K mi., and this gave me a great understanding of the QT2 capabilities. I don't have the urge for rock climbing in a vehicle I just paid 25K for, but this was still one of the best visuals I've seen. I might run into slippery or icy though, and I'd like to know the absolute best all-season tires to get next? I believe I can also max. up to 275-55-20's. Yeah, I know... 18's are better off-road, but I liked the Overland-style 20" rim upgrade it came with...

@JF-lt5zc

2 жыл бұрын

I run 275/65x18 with 30mm offset (vs55 stock) for clearance. They fit wonderfully. No rubbing, no cutting. Pulled them off of our Laredo when we traded in, and frankly, I think it is a better look than the 20s.

Owner of a Jeep XK 3.0 CRD with quadra trac 2. I am actually surprised with the time it takes to engage QT2 in the WK2 since it is newer than mine. Maybe because I have low end toqrue. Just a tip for quadra trac 2 owners change your brake fluid professionaly by removing your wheels and completely bleeding the system. It accumulates humidity and in my case my rear axle was not even "brake locking" up until I bleeded my system

would love to see someone with a Summit out there - we've got one and we take it on some pretty mean trails out here in CO!

I have a lifted Laredo on 31.5's and i found the trick for me i slightly more momentum and not letting out of the gas too early to let the computer work. That ELSD would be solid!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. That’s the way to do it!

@jackhanson2054

3 жыл бұрын

What lift are you using? I’ve heard the Quadra drive 1 system doesn’t handle lift kits very well

@9aqua_man282

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackhanson2054 I’m on bilstein 5100s with hemi coils. I haven’t had any issues with it. Love my set up. Wish I had a locker though like the trail hawks

QD2 in 2005 JGC 5.7 hemi is the most robust. Keep it simple and I don’t need to overthink it and just focus on my line and proper throttle control.

Love the video. You said an issue was ground clearance for the wk2 limited. Were you in stock ride height as well whenever these scraping incidents occurred? Or was the ground clearance issue just due to the tire sizes?

@Tallnerdyguy

2 жыл бұрын

The limited didn't have the air suspension, that comes with QD2, not quadra trac 2, which the limited had

Hi, thanks for the great video. I'm off-roading with QT2 for 2 years. as you said, the QT2 will work, you just have to know how to drive with it. I think that the QD2 has one down side - you are not controlling the locker (the ELSD is almost a locker), sometimes the result of using a locker is that the rear of the WK2 would slip aside ( I saw this in one of your videos as well), and thins might be dangerous.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comments!

@gady88

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProdigalOverland just look at the video again. You don't have to give more gas. staying with a steady rev speed would give you better results.

@gady88

3 жыл бұрын

... another question - do you lower the air in the tires in this video? (the white jeep's)

Excellent

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Excellent review, Brad! Great to see the 2 systems perform side by side in the same obstacle. Do you think the QT 1 can pull through the same obstacle without the low range gearbox?

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

We haven’t been on the trail too much with Laredos. I know there is times I don’t put it in 4 low. And other times I need it to get through.

@ntg1271

3 жыл бұрын

you could but you'd be using so much momentum you're gonna wind up breaking something. Low & Slow wins all the time, you need to crawl up obstacles not go full RAMBO

@lousoa8745

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I wish someone would do a video on QT1 can’t find anything on GC Jeep off road particularly on sand with QT1 as I like to drive on the beach

@JF-lt5zc

2 жыл бұрын

@@lousoa8745 I had a QT1 Laredo until a week ago. Now running a Limited with QTII. Never much into rock crawling, but the QT1 Laredo did pretty good on heavily rutted and rocky fire road climbs. Slow was the way to go and no low range needed.

Does the Quadra drive 2 system engage the brakes as well to help the lsd when traction is low?

Sometimes it seems for me like QDII system doesn’t have front active brake control,just free open differential there,but i may be wrong! Brad ty for your videos!!))

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

It should have the active brake control. Thanks for watching!

My 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with the 4.0L6 has The Quadra Track 2 with Front And Rear Solid Axle and I put 4 inch lift with 33 inch ×12.50 R17. The Laredo Dose Or Can Be Ordered With Quadra Track 2.

great video. curious where you got your roof rack and ladder from?

This makes me believe that true limited slip would be better. E for effort and thumb up for the video though.

@ 20:05 love have Brad gets out. Didn’t trust wifey much back then. Now she’s the guide!!🤣😂

My '14 limited was optioned with the QDII. Still trying to find what you're using for the bully bar w/tow hook capable

80th Anniversary is a Limited with added optionals and has Quadra Trac II

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. You are correct. They sure don’t make it easy to find this stuff. Thanks!

@ANGU74

3 жыл бұрын

What about 75th Anniversary?

Quadra Drive II is the way to go, standard on Trailhawk and Summit; optional on Limited , Overland and High Altitude!

@paullee1270

3 жыл бұрын

On the Summit and High Altitude models (while being just as capable) serious off roading is not really an option because of lowered front fascia on these models. They also come with 20" wheels and tires. I have an HA with QDII changed out wheels to 18"s and installed skids for better off road performance.

@mr.g3588

3 жыл бұрын

QD- II is standard equip on the Overland

@exoplanetnomad

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.g3588 Quadra Trac II is standard, Quadra Drive II is optional on 2018,2019,2020 & 2021 Overland, High Altitude, Limited & 2021 Summit!

a base v8 trail hawk no opts to keep the price down. but most the ones the dealers order have a bunch bs opts and the price jumps real fast

I am looking to buy a 2021 GC Laredo E 4x4. I am planning to use the vehicle for Overland and camping with the kids-no extreme rock climbing. With bigger tires and a lift kit, how the off-road performance be affected on the GC Laredo E? Any insight would be appreciated.

Does the front left make a bunch of noise under throttle? A few times in snow and mud I’ve lost traction and makes a heck of a noise.

The WK JGC equipped with Quadra-Drive II has ELSD's front and rear.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Like I said in the video the front ELSD went away in 2011, WK went till 2010.

@exoplanetnomad

3 жыл бұрын

Correct!

@jimwheeler6094

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProdigalOverland, I would have liked to have had a 3.0L CRD JGC equipped with Quadra-Drive II but they're quite rare in the US. I ended up with a Quadra-Drive II equipped WK2 Limited that I love on the days that it's not giving me grief. The problem is, is that those days are few and far in between.

@ntg1271

3 жыл бұрын

that is correct 2005-2010 WK Grand Cherokee had VariLok front & Rear Axels ..awesome systems unstoppable.

@jimwheeler6094

3 жыл бұрын

@@ntg1271, I think that I saw a KZread video in which someone was attempting to transplant a WK ELSD front axle into a WK2, although I didn't actually take the time to watch it. Isn't there some sort of control module for that WK ELSD front axle that is needed in order for it to work?

this makes me wonder if the Subaru select split is better. You can manually select 50/50 , 20/80, or 80,20 if i recall correctly and it was available in the 90s. I am pretty sure it was full LSD.

Hey Brad - During the up and down section at the 10:00 mark, what pressure are you running your/his tires?

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

We were at 22 psi

In other words, if you want to off-road in a GC, get a Trailhawk. What tires are you running? It's impressive that a GC can keep up with a 4Runner.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

We have been happy with the Trailhawk! We are currently running 265 65 18, Falken Wildpeaks. We have been happy with them.

You read my mind! I was thinking about which awd system(s) is being offered with the WK2 as I was watching your rig review video yesterday! Lol! Next day, a full video answer! Nice! I have a WK with QD2 5.7hemi front and rear ELSD that actually fully lock along with a locking Transfer Case all at 4L. So you have a triple lock at 4L in a GC WK QD2. I was wondering if WK2’s QD2 have a front ELSD as well as a rear ELSD that fully lock at 4L like the WK’s QD2? Or WK2’s QD2 is only a rear ELSD that doesn’t fully lock at 4L? Thanks

@ntg1271

3 жыл бұрын

WK2 does NOT have a front ELSD only the rear. The previous generation WK had front & rear when equipped w QDII ,an awesome 4x4 system

@thegranddestination

3 жыл бұрын

NTG i watched the video. What a shame jeep stopped offering the locking front and rear ELSD diffs as part of QD2 for the WK2 I have to say, love how capable my 5.7hemi WK is the original QD2. Im confident on any type of terrain or approaching various obstacles. I have owned the first and second generations Grand Cherokees (ZJ and WJ) also a TJ Wrangler and my current third gen WK is the most capable. Jeep needs to bring back the WK’s QD2 back to the next Grand Cherokee platform.

Wouls QuadraTech II work well in loose sand/beach driving or would QuardaDive 2 be best?

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Quadra tech 2 will do just fine.

was traction control on or off in the white GC?

What are your thoughts on the Jeep commander? I have a jeep commander with QDII. Ever see any of those out there?

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t believe I have ever seen one out on the trails

My 2013 GC has only quad1all automatic no low range and somehow it’s like a mountain goat in snow in the forest service’s roads the only thing I put on was Goodyear duratraks

@jackhanson2054

3 жыл бұрын

Do you have a lift on it?

@sheerwillsurvival2064

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackhanson2054 no not yet been looking at old man emu 2lift

@BMTubes

2 жыл бұрын

Good info here. Just sold my overland that had quadralift air suspension and all that and man…. So many problems with it. Just got a new Altitude with the quadradrive (standard 4x4) and put Terra Grapplers on it and I am set.

@Tallnerdyguy

2 жыл бұрын

Don't underestimate the tires.

Hi there, I am seriously looking at purchasing a GC Trailhawk as I do want spend some time adventuring. Thanks for clearing up the diffs between all these drive systems. That being said, is it safe to assume that all GC Trailhawks (2020 year model and up) have the QDII system along with the air lift suspension?

@ProdigalOverland

Жыл бұрын

All Of the trailhawks for the WK2 do have both, but not the new version.

@troydstandefer

11 ай бұрын

The new Trailhawks do have quadra drive. The window stickers say quadra trac II, but if you look up the build sheets they come with a 245 mm ELDS rear end, which as explained above is the difference between the trac and drive.

My limited have a terrain selec but no rock or 4 low. I’ve seen 4x4 without the the selec terrain

What is the difference between Quadra Trak Drive vs Volkswagen 4motion?

I have a 15 wk2 summit with the hemi, anybody else air suspension ride very rough at the highest level, like mine almost bounces if I hit a bump to fast. I have the airlinks level kit on the front. I also put 285 55 20 kenda klever rt's on mine with a 1.25 wheel spacer on stock wheels.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

I can't speech to how your mods may have changed the ride quality However, as a rule yes OR2 is a rough ride because of the airbags are full.

Maybe I missed it, but I have a 2015 with Quadra trac 1 I believe (it’s an altitude). But I was really curious whether or not it’s reliable compared to these Quadra-trac II’s.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Quadra trac 1 is the same traction management system as qt2 minus the low range. Because it doesn’t have the low range transfer case. We actually haven’t been out on the trails with anyone yet who had the qt1 system. But you could look up “trail trooper” on KZread. He had a heavily modified wk2 with qt1.

The QuadraTrac system sounds like a dog burying a bone. Too funny! Given the nature of a Jeep, I’m surprised that the limited slip rear diff isn’t offered as a stand-alone option. As can be seen in this demo, the LSD greatly enhances the vehicles capability. In a Jeep, you shouldn’t have to buy a lot of useless crap just to get the LSD. It’s just a money-grab.

@richiet5914

3 жыл бұрын

absolutely correct. It's a money grab. Even though QT2 is an option on Laredo it's almost impossible to find one on a lot. They want to upsell you to Limited or higher. I wound up ordering a Laredo with QT2 and none of the BS I didn't want to pay for. I would have liked the LSD but not even an option on Laredo. I just had to wait a couple of months for delivery. I do mostly snow and beach driving and QT2 is good enough.

Hi there, this is Stefan from Germany. Just recently discovered your videos and I'm really enjoying them. I'm thinking about getting a WK2 in the near future. Model year something between 2015 and 2018. Now in Germany the 3.0 Diesels are most common, the 3,6 V6 and Hemi are also available but not as much. Anyway I'm going for the gas engines. My question is now, over here a lot of the models do not have that terrain / 4low selector in the console. They are still 4x4 but it seems they don't have anything else. Do you know anything about that or is that an European feature only? best regards

@ProdigalOverland

2 жыл бұрын

In the USA that would be a Laredo trim. You would need a limited trim and up to get a 4 low option

@SpookyMietz

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProdigalOverland Thanks for the quick response! So the Laredo trim 4x4 is just the simplest all wheel drive without any possibilities to change drive modes, do I get that correct?

If there is a 4low and lock button does it mean it is quadra trac II? Lock button locks only rear wheels right? The model is a diesel 3.0 sold here in Europe.

@Tallnerdyguy

2 жыл бұрын

Does it have trail rated badge? Air suspension? If yes, then yes

Did you use the Quadra Lift Air Suspension System while using the Quadra Trac System? Just asking :)

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

This Jeep didn't have the air suspension. Although we were just our this past weekend with an overland that had the air suspension and the Quadra trac 2 system. It was the same story.

Did the white vehicle have Quadra trac 1 or 2?

What if I get QD 2 and just swap the air suspension for coil ? ELSD would still work fine, right ?

@ProdigalOverland

Жыл бұрын

yes it would

Does the tires on the trailhawk make more noise than the regular all season 20 wheels?

@Tallnerdyguy

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the tire specifically. And a 20 is a bad tire for any off road

What system does the 2016 Summit v6 have?

Thanks for trying to layout Jeep's complicated 4x4 systems. It's too bad the QuadraDrive II system doesn't included front LSD. Also, none of the GC systems include locking diffs. I think 4 low may lock the transfer case, but not 4 hi, correct me if I'm wrong. Also, Jeep is vague about the torque distribution defaults, front to rear. For Laredo and SRT, which are AWD systems, they say Laredo defaults to 50-50% and SRT defaults to a rear biased 40-60 or 35-65%. But for most GCs with QuadraTrac II & QuadraDrive II, we don't know. And we don't know how much torque can be adjusted front to rear in given situations. Wish some one could find this out.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

I believe I read somewhere that the transfer case in qt2 and qd2 can sift all of the power to either axle if needed. Then the rear elsd can shift all of the owner to one rear wheel if needed.

Did you guy s air down for these tests? If so what PSI were you at?

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Both around 22

Just bought a 2013 Laredo x

So new quadra drive ii without elsd is worse?

So, I have a 15 renegade limited. I'm looking to trade it in for a 15 and up cherokee trailhawk so I can tow rv trailers at around 3000+ pounds. But now because for the same price, I'm looking at overland grand cherokees. How can I tell it has the quadra drive system?

@RoadieWingZZ

Жыл бұрын

Ask the dealership to provide you with the build sheet to see if the QDII was installed or by looking up the window sticker yourself via this link and modifying the VIN# to match the vehicle you’re considering. Example - www.chrysler.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C4RJFJT5KC642392

It's uses the speed sensor data. One wheel is spinning because it's in the air, the other is on the ground. You have open diffs, what now? The ecu pulls the brake on the spinning tire, power is then sent to the other wheel because that sides being held. You can see the issue with the system, it's slow, and it can really only function in pulses since you don't want a brake applied while your attempting to move forward. The only place the system is better is onroad. It's inferior as it's a bandaid solution. I have a patriot, it isn't an off-road vehicle, it's like for a little trail with no massive potholes, but that's true with most independent suspension vehicles. They fix these yet? I seem to remember all sorts of customer complaints in the last 8 years with these cherokees. Also anyone have a commander? Do you like it?

I’m assuming I have the Quadra Trac1. 2020 Jeep Grand Cherokee Altitude. What’s an easy way to tell?

@Tallnerdyguy

2 жыл бұрын

Check your VIN online

Whats the difference between the trailhawk and the ecodiesel overland model? Mine has the air suspension skids and 18s from the factory

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

If you have the trail rates badge. There might night be any functional difference. Not all overland models have an elsd in the rear.

@Tallnerdyguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProdigalOverland all trail rated diesel do. You can't get the outdoor package and diesel without

I have a 2012 Grand Cherokee 4x4 Limited with the QuadraTrac II System and air suspension. When it is lifted to the 1 or 2 level and I hit a bump I will sometimes here are loud clunk or bumping sound. So, I can be in a field where there are little dips in the ground and when I go over one with a tire, I can hear a bump/clunk coming from that wheel, but I believe it seems to happen with any of the wheels. Is this normal? Do you know what is happening or what the problem is? I've never owned a vehicle with air suspension before. I have owned several 4x4 trucks, but I've never encountered this problem before. Thank you.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

I’m my experience that sound happens more when I’m in off road 2 the airbags are full and when they go from being loaded to unloaded. They snap back and make that sound.

@dustindenson9037

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProdigalOverland That sounds right. It happens more when it is in 2. My mechanic thought it might be the sway arms, but what you are saying makes more sense. Thank you very much.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

@@dustindenson9037 happy to help

I'm sure someone is wonder if you can convert an non-ELSD to ELSD. I have a 2017 WK2 Overland with QT2, Selec-Terrain and Quadra-Lift, so I went to my dealer to find out. They said, no. I would have to change out the axle, u-joint to wheel stud. I hope someone reading this knows more then the dealer. I really want one. Nothing in the aftermarket world either. My other ride is a '96 ZJ with TrueTrac's in both ends. I feel like somethings missing in my '17. Thank!

@Tallnerdyguy

2 жыл бұрын

Quadra lift should make it have QD, as that was the option package. Check your VIN online

Would’ve been nice to see all three.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t believe we have had anyone out with us that had Quadra trac 1. But yes that would be good to see.

4lo mud mode is best for climbing hills with quadra trac 2

Would love to see your setup against a wk with QD2 with front and rear ELSD or a wj QD with front and rear variloks

@rockymountboy

3 жыл бұрын

WJ WD? Did you mean WJ QD (QuadraDrive)?

@SarabLoh

3 жыл бұрын

@@rockymountboy whoops typo. Thanks

@phelandeluna5439

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the real Quadradrive and QDII are the best! The 2011 and up is just Quadratrac II with a rear ELSD

@rockymountboy

3 жыл бұрын

@@phelandeluna5439 Well, to be fair. QuadraDrive is just QuadraTrac II with LSDs front and rear. The WK version of QD II is more sophisticated.

@phelandeluna5439

3 жыл бұрын

@@rockymountboy it's actually front, center, and rear+plus lockers

I bought the upland with quadratrac 2 I would like the rear locker but I would never beat my 40 Thousand dollar vehicle like this anyway. Snow is the biggest obstacle it will see.

Learn so much with your videos. I'm now convinced my '21 Overland with QL has the QD2 system with the ESLD. I'll refrain from the more challenging trails until I install under carriage protection and upgrade the stock shoes. Thanks!

@KaisTheFireWarrior

Жыл бұрын

Yours doesn't say what it is when it starts up?

@my3sonsnh

Жыл бұрын

@@KaisTheFireWarrior No indication on startup... I just went by what I was shown in the video.

@KaisTheFireWarrior

Жыл бұрын

@@my3sonsnh Weird because my 2011 literally says "Quadra-Drive II" on startup

@my3sonsnh

Жыл бұрын

@@KaisTheFireWarrior I wish my 2021 was that forthcoming. Maybe I’ll find it under the “Off-road Pages” menu.

@troydstandefer

11 ай бұрын

You can look up the build sheet and it will tell you if you have ELDS

My 2011 has the Quadra drive system, yet I don't have air suspension

I notice the white one does not have the Trail Rated badge, does that signify the lack of lockers? I have a 2014 limited with the Quadra Lift system with the 4 low and driving modes, it has the TR badge but I don't know if it has the lockers. How would I be able to determine that?

@khondkerjamil39

3 жыл бұрын

Only Jeep Cherokee Trailhawks come with push button rear locker from factory, Jeep Wrangler Rubicon has both front and rear. Jeep Quadra Drive features ELSD beside break lock.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

You should have the rear elsd. And then open differential with brake traction control up front.

@LaSarge

3 жыл бұрын

@@fahdabdulaziz5067 There is a button and it locks front and rear..

@khondkerjamil39

3 жыл бұрын

@@fahdabdulaziz5067 Dear friend, I wrote "Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk", not "Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk".

@fahdabdulaziz5067

3 жыл бұрын

@@khondkerjamil39 sorry bro my mistake. Have a nice day

My 2016 Summit has everything except skid plates. Should I even venture slightly off-road without skid plates? I’m not talking Rubicon style rock crawling, just dirt roads and easy Jeep trails.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

We have taken plenty of folks out off road that didn’t have anything. If you watch our limited vs. trailhawk video. The limited owner didn’t have any skid plating. Came through some decent trails. So if it’s less than this. Then yes. He also didn’t have an air suspension.

@Tallnerdyguy

2 жыл бұрын

Rocks are why they have skid plates (to protect from rocks)

Your description says Quadra Trac. Does the Limited have Quadra Trac I or Quadra Trac II? (Low Range)

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Quadra trac 2

@paullee1270

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProdigalOverland after watching this video I was a bit disappointed with the performance of QTll. (Lots of wheel slipping before the system kicks in) It does seem to get the job done but with more drama than QDII. It also looks like you have a bit more experience off roading. I think you pretty much nailed it in your closing commentary! Great video for sure!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

@@paullee1270 glad you likes it. Thanks for the comments.

Hello someone, do you know why my jeep grand cherokee laredo V6 2011 says back 4 × 4 but it does not have a lever to put 4 × 4 on it, I only know that it works automatically with all 4 wheels. I am confused, I do not know if it is Quadra 1 Quadra 2 or 4 × 4 or AWD someone has an answer I am very confused because the back says 4 × 4 but it has nothing to activate and normally all 4 wheels are working

@ProdigalOverland

2 жыл бұрын

it sounds like Quadra track 1, you don't have a two speed transfer case. No 4 low to shift into. it's always using 4 WD

@centroamericasvr3199

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your answer . If my jeep has a transfer case, that's why I'm a bit confused

I don't see QT1 & 2 being better than any other AWD system in other manufacturers. QDII is the exception though.

I don't understand why they stuck a lsd in the grand Cherokee trail hawk and not a locker like in the regular Cherokee trail hawk don't get me wrong LSD works great thats what I had in my fourth gen RAM and it worked pretty good off road

I have a summit. That’s on air. Which do I have?

Why do the lights flicker ????

Did you both have the same tires?

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Good question. And yes both were wildpeak at3

I think one of the downside to the QD2 system is that you have to force wheel spin before the system moves power around which is not optimal. It works very well but it is not smooth and makes it hard to maintain proper momentum.

@Welsheeyit

3 жыл бұрын

That's not really true at least in the WK. I can't speak for the WK2 but on my 06 It kicks in in a fraction of a second

@jaradderosa3252

3 жыл бұрын

@@Welsheeyit I think the original WK is actually a better off-road system and platform depending on how hard you want to play.

Didn't the WJs with Quadra Drive have ELSD on the front axle ?

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Yes they did.

@wildbill23c

3 жыл бұрын

The WJ's had front and rear varilock differentials, they were hydraulically operated VS electronic. After the WJ they dropped the front limited slip in the WK's...which is now just a rear elsd and trickery with the traction control/stability control/ABS systems to apply brakes on the front wheels to help transfer power....have to remember to the WKs are now independent suspension so your articulation isn't as good as a WJ either. So you will find that you have tires in the air more often with the WK's VS a WJ or a ZJ.

THE naming of these systems only causes confusion. Who's is the rocket scientist behind that

Keep in mind the quadra-trac 2 and quadra-drive 2 both use the same transfer case, the only difference between the 2 4WD systems is the quadra-drive 2 has a rear elsd. Also, these 4wd systems are rear wheel drive based, unlike the old 249 transfer case which had a torque bias towards the rear but was in 4WD all the time, power to the front axle was continuous, these current systems apply power to the rear wheels until traction loss is detected then it will variably send power up front. In low range however, this is a part time 50/50 torque split front to rear as a normal part time 4WD transfer case would be...in all other modes its mostly rear wheel drive based, certain modes however change the transfer case outputs to allow for more constant front axle torque being applied.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Yes sir. Good info

both 5.7s?