Jay Smith, guide at October 2008 Splitter Camp, climbs Incredible Hand Crack, explaining crack technique.
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@trevordustin26134 жыл бұрын
If you ever feel useless, imagine being the belayer.
@crux32110 жыл бұрын
me thinking: "any day now he will place a piece, any day now. . ."
@williammichaelsexton
10 жыл бұрын
EXACT words going through my head.. hahah
@rushthezeppelin
5 жыл бұрын
Hand jams are the best pro.....funny that I say that considering the only part of my rack that is a triple is my hand jam size lol (although it's mostly because there are alot of anchor situations at my home crag that need #2s).
@paulburnett2496
5 жыл бұрын
crux321 c
@bluetifulangel12 жыл бұрын
i can see he's a good climber, but i think i was having heart palpitations waiting for him to place at least one piece of gear.
@logiconabstractions65965 жыл бұрын
" First time I led it I probably put in more than 2 cams in ". That was hilarious.
@badnews93126 жыл бұрын
Jay is a god - I met him twenty years ago when he was climbing Hydrophobia up in Alberta Ghost region - he has to be 65 easy ten years older than me....great to see - a true icon of American Alpinism and rock and ice climbing
@demarchisoft10 жыл бұрын
It's always a pain when they ask you to belay them and then free solo the thing...
@imxd96986 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading these.
@vbuffalini5 жыл бұрын
can’t believe the fuckin’ nerds in these comments. do ya’ll even climb? Jay Smith is a G, who embodies the bold and free spirit of trad climbing.
@jacylyons64236 жыл бұрын
got jams, don't need cams. his confidence is inspiring.
@speak2tone11 жыл бұрын
Great vid! That rock is a visual example of what i try to explain in terms of climbing mentality. Its so smoothe you cant climb it but it has a crack exposing the inner, thats the weakness that makes it possible to climb. The ground's pulling you down, the rocks trying to push you off, but they have every right to becasue your seeking to take advantage of its weakness for your own benifit. A conceptual battle of man v nature but with most climbs the strength and weakness isn't so opposed as this
@brodient115 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is an easy climb for him and he's done it many times. Objective was to show jamming technique, so he emphasized that instead of placements. Please see other video of him doing the placement demonstrations.
@logiconabstractions6596
6 жыл бұрын
These guys don't really know what they're talking about, obviously. Great climb!
@Protains13 жыл бұрын
absolutely amazing
@maxitaxik2310 жыл бұрын
Makes it look so easy and efficient
@wondersoxx14 жыл бұрын
That was a great video! Wonderful climbing, nice and easy, nothing to it (easier said than done I'm sure, haha!)! Great job!
@theopinson38514 жыл бұрын
Was that rain or snow at the end?
@coolcat8315 жыл бұрын
running out the start? i'm sure this route was wel within your abilities, but it would also help to show placement spacing if you could
@BODIKY1116 жыл бұрын
very strong man -technique., power versus age -exelent
@worriedmn11 жыл бұрын
look at how eroded the rock face is from so many ascents, holy shit! I heard the cracks were widening but damn, I dont remember it looking like that 10 years ago.
@ananda_miaoyin Жыл бұрын
What a Master.
@NeillWylie13 жыл бұрын
He so chilled out.
@Brian_Moser11186 жыл бұрын
he's old but he got more fitness than me and i am 24
@NikySportsPromotion10 жыл бұрын
I would've placed 3 or 4 pieces before he put in his first. That was actually kinda scary to watch
@blu3flare25
9 жыл бұрын
didnt look like he had a whole lot
@AlienCollective
9 жыл бұрын
blu3flare25 And whose fault is that? Agreed, that was nerve-wracking...
@DiamorphineDeath
8 жыл бұрын
This is what, a 5.10 hand crack? Most crack climbers should be able to solo this comfortably, at least the first half of the route. Jams are incredibly secure...the safety patrol needs to lighten up a bit here
@AlienCollective
8 жыл бұрын
DiamorphineDeath Okay, great, but he's supposed to be teaching here. Do whatever you want when you're climbing, but that doesn't mean you should teach your students to neglect basic safety.
@DiamorphineDeath
8 жыл бұрын
AlienCollective He's teaching jamming technique, if you did't notice there's another video of him showing proper cam placements. Have you ever done any crack climbing? Because nothing in that video was "nerve-wracking," as you put it..
@agpyo0615 жыл бұрын
it depends where he slips.probably not after the first protection is placed. but this is done with a great deal of technical and mental training.
@MegaThompson2610 жыл бұрын
I wish I could climb with this guy a few times. It would be like hanging out with the gandolf of trad. teach me oh great wizard >.
@CottonwoodDraper12 жыл бұрын
He seems pretty awesome
@DropChop6911 жыл бұрын
4:08 Good job belayer!
@birgitza14 жыл бұрын
boah, respekt, das schaut alles so locker aus. Ich würde das auch gerne können. Bravo!!!!!!
@gimlisrage59 жыл бұрын
i always get problems with my feet when i climb cracks. They hurt so much everytime
@arthurjohnson3438
8 жыл бұрын
+gimlisrage5 put your feet in at an angle, worked for me
@knuckldragger
8 жыл бұрын
+gimlisrage5 You may be climbing in shoes that are too aggressive for cracks. Are you climbing in some really tight sport shoes? this was my issue, and when i switched to a softer shoe, flat lasted, street shoe size, I had virtually no problems
@gimlisrage5
8 жыл бұрын
Nick King yes that was also my problem, thanks ;)
@hogintheskyskysky12 жыл бұрын
totally sounds like his elbow crunches like crazy at 2:00 ("watch my elbow")
@Mattmillerhahaha11 жыл бұрын
inherent risk comes with doing wheelies, the only way to lower the risk is just not to do them. but in the case of climbing, by placing good gear more often you can lower the risk.
@mralex542512 жыл бұрын
he is so ridiculously confident. i want to call that runout but it's not even runout because there is zero gear in until he gets as high as most indoor walls. (funny how serious the belayer is when he is providing no more safety than he would be if he just took him off belay and set the rope down until jay puts the cam in)
@peanutjenner12 жыл бұрын
I swear if u close your eyes you hear Tommy Chong explaining crack climbing lol. The best Ive ever seen. Beautiful climbing
@francovaderno35328 жыл бұрын
The number of protections is absolutely OK!!!!! More is overprotected! Such a crack don't let you fall out - here jamed is jamed! The crack shown here jams so good, the surface of the rock inside the crack is smooth and gives a good friction. (fine grained sandstone) If you moan here your haven't understood how the technique (watch video again!) or you are a Mollycoddle! Later cahnge to cracks in limestone, granite, raugh grained Sandstone, finger cracks, off width - and then a crack like this here you will call 'easy rubbish'.
@knuckldragger
8 жыл бұрын
I disagree. He obviously has climbed the route before, and is clearly a long time creeker. It makes sense that he is extremely comfortable in sandstone cracks, but that isnt the case for the people he is leading. He is teaching essentially people who are new to crack climbing how to climb crack, and he does not mention where you might want to think about placing pro, or what position you might want to have in order to be comfortable enough to get a good piece in. He definitely should have placed more gear. Not just for his own protection, but to be more of a demonstration for the group he was taking out and teaching to crack climb. You even hear him say in the video "the first time I led it I probably put more than 2 cams.."
@marcmongango2 жыл бұрын
Para que la cuerda ?? Si no pone seguros....
@evanvideo11 жыл бұрын
or if you climb well you don't need as much protection. Seriously, how many people bother to place a bunch of gear in a full hand crack??
@paulmitchell53495 жыл бұрын
groove on the left looks a tad more difficult.
@adammattox8949 жыл бұрын
He was teaching crack climbing technique. Presumably, his students already know how to place pieces. You do not recognize true mastery
@constantinosschinas45035 жыл бұрын
when you really trust your friends.
@northaunt10 жыл бұрын
if You know how to jam, it doesnt hurt that bad. Its much safer technique than dufler when trad climbing
@Centrodemasa Жыл бұрын
Amazing skill, you should wear helmet and place more protection gear
@crjanow11 жыл бұрын
you people just dont understand climbing. when your at the level he is a climb with holds like this is like climbing a 100 foot tall ladder. most people wouldnt use a rope to climb a ladder unless their afraid of heights. some all these comments are based on ignorants. not that your stupid you are just misinformed
@larryhazlett17523 жыл бұрын
The route is called Luxury Liner, nicknamed Supercrack. Its first ascent was by my close friends Earl Wiggins, Ed Webster and Brian Becker in the mid 70s. Please call it Luxury Liner. Earl didn’t like super crack!
@trikael
2 жыл бұрын
Nope. It's the Incredible Hand Crack.
@xXxdaguitarfreakxXx9 жыл бұрын
i know exactly where that is
@williamfeasey14869 жыл бұрын
Put some gear in!!!😄
@raganusmc3 жыл бұрын
You know he could have set some gear way be for he did. to make the rout safer no talk on that he even amits it. Good climder though ill admit that
@helgagrams2393 Жыл бұрын
🙈🙈🙈
@Eddiep802 жыл бұрын
Ive done Super crack with 4 pieces. But 3 on IHC is boss lol
@miguelcastorena42934 жыл бұрын
textbook technique
@RideAdventurous6 жыл бұрын
Shit does happen....justsayn...
@HondoTrailside9 жыл бұрын
He's a guide, why should he pretend he is a gym slob. On steep cracks there is a burn factor from carrying extra gear, placing it, and dragging the rope through it. He presumably didn't place low because it wasn't going to stop him hitting the deck, in one of the other vids his belayer was like 10 feet out from the rock. Then say when the pro might have done some good, you still are at a point where you only get coverage for a short while until you are back looking at a gorund fall. If at that point you are bomber, you just keep going. Presumably he placed where the hands where not full on solid, and at points where he had the best ratio of being able to run out some rope without ground fall potential, but no more than that. If he is sane he isn't ignoring his safety he is calculating it.
@Smarflovesthecufjug11 жыл бұрын
May be confident but no need to highball on a crack like that
@tylergeringer379611 жыл бұрын
laser cut splitters rarely see cams fail...and if you dont fall nothing bad happens...just like in a wheelie on a motorcycle....
@ogdemigod12 жыл бұрын
i dont know this guy but i do love him after watching this....NO HOMO!
@sydneydoc15 жыл бұрын
very nice. He certainly travels light ... 5 mins in before placing his first piece ! If he had a grounder at that height a helmet probably wouldn't have helped anyway.
@hickstylez12 жыл бұрын
alex honnold
@flexibleaspect8 жыл бұрын
I don't like how the rope goes behind his leg for a bit at 6:25. If he fell there, he'd be flipped upside down and hit his head on the wall.
@claytonwalker9938
8 жыл бұрын
+flexibleaspect Yeah... but it's Jay Smith dude.
@SirWillOfWeBB11 жыл бұрын
Gah I agree... freaking horrible climbers always demonstrating flawless technique and only placing mental pieces where they need them. or even climbing routes all together without protection thats just poor skill... also I mean People who can solo a route shouldnt hook up to a belayer yea they may get injured or stuck and want to set a piece to bail from but who doesn't commit like that .. WHO
@trentarnold72265 жыл бұрын
I think that after 6:00, if he had taken a fall, that would've been it. The path that his gear was placed in would've slammed him into a mantle
@Mattmillerhahaha11 жыл бұрын
he has some climbing skill. but some skill is also in placing gear, he would have hit the floor if one of those cams failed
@wradford111 жыл бұрын
Climbing cracks is great if your masochist, jaming hurts bad.
@paulmitchell5349
5 жыл бұрын
tape up and learn some technique
@MountaineeringSense7 жыл бұрын
I have climbed with Jay at Super Crack Buttress a few times. The fact he is supposedly guiding is a joke! Reminds me of the old John Long Learning to Climb films. No helmet is just for starters. Jay is a great climber but terrible guide and has been freeloading off his families trust for a long time. Cams Skid even at Indian Creek and people that fall off usually land on or hit their heads. Again, reminds me of the bullshit John Long learning to climb films.
@lazerusmfh12 жыл бұрын
Even the best climbers make mistakes. it only takes one mistake to loose your ability to continue your sport.
@jolllyroger110 жыл бұрын
So have you exceeded the fall factors if you have then if your not dead on this climb eventually the numbers will get you Also why would you teach students or anyone to ignore safety. ?.. I love extreme sports ... flying, skydiving, windsurfing and am now returning to climbing..... Every one of these is our responsibility to promote safety following check lists and staying with In eatery margins This guy isv an ego a silent ego showing off.... Just because you don't yell out look at me Listen to these guys they are impressionable and will emulate you. ?.. And concerning the guys comments about this being like climbing a ladder to him ... so what he is unsafe if he is so great why did he use any anchors at all I have no problem with free climbers but my god don't set bad examples with rope for students
@logiconabstractions6596
6 жыл бұрын
I take it you're not trad climbing all that much yourself? You place the gear you need to make the climb safe. Some climbs you may be forced to run it for long stretches - you either do that climb or not. Of course he could have placed more gear in that case - but he didn't need to given the climb and his obviously very strong technique in pristine rock. While leading on gear, there's basically 2 components - the grade and the protection. You can push your limits on one of them at a time (but never both). Given his technic there, I see no problems in him using like 3 cams in the whole pitch.
@constantinosschinas4503
5 жыл бұрын
he could put one more friend after the first loft. falls where clean, he would not fall anyway, his hands were properly jammed so was not using much muscle power. this is trad climbing where each nut is calculated based on skill and efficiency, not sissy sport climbing with bolt every 2 metres.
@doormat3218 жыл бұрын
Can I say it is not good practice to be teaching people to not place gear. Climbing is not about ego, he has all cams that are fast and easy to place there are no excuses.
@zachdavis9748
8 жыл бұрын
Is he really teaching them not to place gear? No one gets that run out unless they are secure by their skill, and knowledge of the route. The ducklings get top roped.
@mes6276
8 жыл бұрын
+doormat321 I believe it was peter croft that said.. a handjam is as good as a cam..
@NickDangerThirdGuy
8 жыл бұрын
and where is Peter Croft now?
@mes6276
8 жыл бұрын
Climbing somewhere awesome I imagine... because he is still alive.. and still strong as hell... sooooo your point?
@dotadojardiner88938 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or did this guy take way too long to place any gear - especially if you are teaching? After all teaching good technique is pointless if your students take a massive fall and cripple themselves.
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If you ever feel useless, imagine being the belayer.
me thinking: "any day now he will place a piece, any day now. . ."
@williammichaelsexton
10 жыл бұрын
EXACT words going through my head.. hahah
@rushthezeppelin
5 жыл бұрын
Hand jams are the best pro.....funny that I say that considering the only part of my rack that is a triple is my hand jam size lol (although it's mostly because there are alot of anchor situations at my home crag that need #2s).
@paulburnett2496
5 жыл бұрын
crux321 c
i can see he's a good climber, but i think i was having heart palpitations waiting for him to place at least one piece of gear.
" First time I led it I probably put in more than 2 cams in ". That was hilarious.
Jay is a god - I met him twenty years ago when he was climbing Hydrophobia up in Alberta Ghost region - he has to be 65 easy ten years older than me....great to see - a true icon of American Alpinism and rock and ice climbing
It's always a pain when they ask you to belay them and then free solo the thing...
Thanks for uploading these.
can’t believe the fuckin’ nerds in these comments. do ya’ll even climb? Jay Smith is a G, who embodies the bold and free spirit of trad climbing.
got jams, don't need cams. his confidence is inspiring.
Great vid! That rock is a visual example of what i try to explain in terms of climbing mentality. Its so smoothe you cant climb it but it has a crack exposing the inner, thats the weakness that makes it possible to climb. The ground's pulling you down, the rocks trying to push you off, but they have every right to becasue your seeking to take advantage of its weakness for your own benifit. A conceptual battle of man v nature but with most climbs the strength and weakness isn't so opposed as this
Yes, it is an easy climb for him and he's done it many times. Objective was to show jamming technique, so he emphasized that instead of placements. Please see other video of him doing the placement demonstrations.
@logiconabstractions6596
6 жыл бұрын
These guys don't really know what they're talking about, obviously. Great climb!
absolutely amazing
Makes it look so easy and efficient
That was a great video! Wonderful climbing, nice and easy, nothing to it (easier said than done I'm sure, haha!)! Great job!
Was that rain or snow at the end?
running out the start? i'm sure this route was wel within your abilities, but it would also help to show placement spacing if you could
very strong man -technique., power versus age -exelent
look at how eroded the rock face is from so many ascents, holy shit! I heard the cracks were widening but damn, I dont remember it looking like that 10 years ago.
What a Master.
He so chilled out.
he's old but he got more fitness than me and i am 24
I would've placed 3 or 4 pieces before he put in his first. That was actually kinda scary to watch
@blu3flare25
9 жыл бұрын
didnt look like he had a whole lot
@AlienCollective
9 жыл бұрын
blu3flare25 And whose fault is that? Agreed, that was nerve-wracking...
@DiamorphineDeath
8 жыл бұрын
This is what, a 5.10 hand crack? Most crack climbers should be able to solo this comfortably, at least the first half of the route. Jams are incredibly secure...the safety patrol needs to lighten up a bit here
@AlienCollective
8 жыл бұрын
DiamorphineDeath Okay, great, but he's supposed to be teaching here. Do whatever you want when you're climbing, but that doesn't mean you should teach your students to neglect basic safety.
@DiamorphineDeath
8 жыл бұрын
AlienCollective He's teaching jamming technique, if you did't notice there's another video of him showing proper cam placements. Have you ever done any crack climbing? Because nothing in that video was "nerve-wracking," as you put it..
it depends where he slips.probably not after the first protection is placed. but this is done with a great deal of technical and mental training.
I wish I could climb with this guy a few times. It would be like hanging out with the gandolf of trad. teach me oh great wizard >.
He seems pretty awesome
4:08 Good job belayer!
boah, respekt, das schaut alles so locker aus. Ich würde das auch gerne können. Bravo!!!!!!
i always get problems with my feet when i climb cracks. They hurt so much everytime
@arthurjohnson3438
8 жыл бұрын
+gimlisrage5 put your feet in at an angle, worked for me
@knuckldragger
8 жыл бұрын
+gimlisrage5 You may be climbing in shoes that are too aggressive for cracks. Are you climbing in some really tight sport shoes? this was my issue, and when i switched to a softer shoe, flat lasted, street shoe size, I had virtually no problems
@gimlisrage5
8 жыл бұрын
Nick King yes that was also my problem, thanks ;)
totally sounds like his elbow crunches like crazy at 2:00 ("watch my elbow")
inherent risk comes with doing wheelies, the only way to lower the risk is just not to do them. but in the case of climbing, by placing good gear more often you can lower the risk.
he is so ridiculously confident. i want to call that runout but it's not even runout because there is zero gear in until he gets as high as most indoor walls. (funny how serious the belayer is when he is providing no more safety than he would be if he just took him off belay and set the rope down until jay puts the cam in)
I swear if u close your eyes you hear Tommy Chong explaining crack climbing lol. The best Ive ever seen. Beautiful climbing
The number of protections is absolutely OK!!!!! More is overprotected! Such a crack don't let you fall out - here jamed is jamed! The crack shown here jams so good, the surface of the rock inside the crack is smooth and gives a good friction. (fine grained sandstone) If you moan here your haven't understood how the technique (watch video again!) or you are a Mollycoddle! Later cahnge to cracks in limestone, granite, raugh grained Sandstone, finger cracks, off width - and then a crack like this here you will call 'easy rubbish'.
@knuckldragger
8 жыл бұрын
I disagree. He obviously has climbed the route before, and is clearly a long time creeker. It makes sense that he is extremely comfortable in sandstone cracks, but that isnt the case for the people he is leading. He is teaching essentially people who are new to crack climbing how to climb crack, and he does not mention where you might want to think about placing pro, or what position you might want to have in order to be comfortable enough to get a good piece in. He definitely should have placed more gear. Not just for his own protection, but to be more of a demonstration for the group he was taking out and teaching to crack climb. You even hear him say in the video "the first time I led it I probably put more than 2 cams.."
Para que la cuerda ?? Si no pone seguros....
or if you climb well you don't need as much protection. Seriously, how many people bother to place a bunch of gear in a full hand crack??
groove on the left looks a tad more difficult.
He was teaching crack climbing technique. Presumably, his students already know how to place pieces. You do not recognize true mastery
when you really trust your friends.
if You know how to jam, it doesnt hurt that bad. Its much safer technique than dufler when trad climbing
Amazing skill, you should wear helmet and place more protection gear
you people just dont understand climbing. when your at the level he is a climb with holds like this is like climbing a 100 foot tall ladder. most people wouldnt use a rope to climb a ladder unless their afraid of heights. some all these comments are based on ignorants. not that your stupid you are just misinformed
The route is called Luxury Liner, nicknamed Supercrack. Its first ascent was by my close friends Earl Wiggins, Ed Webster and Brian Becker in the mid 70s. Please call it Luxury Liner. Earl didn’t like super crack!
@trikael
2 жыл бұрын
Nope. It's the Incredible Hand Crack.
i know exactly where that is
Put some gear in!!!😄
You know he could have set some gear way be for he did. to make the rout safer no talk on that he even amits it. Good climder though ill admit that
🙈🙈🙈
Ive done Super crack with 4 pieces. But 3 on IHC is boss lol
textbook technique
Shit does happen....justsayn...
He's a guide, why should he pretend he is a gym slob. On steep cracks there is a burn factor from carrying extra gear, placing it, and dragging the rope through it. He presumably didn't place low because it wasn't going to stop him hitting the deck, in one of the other vids his belayer was like 10 feet out from the rock. Then say when the pro might have done some good, you still are at a point where you only get coverage for a short while until you are back looking at a gorund fall. If at that point you are bomber, you just keep going. Presumably he placed where the hands where not full on solid, and at points where he had the best ratio of being able to run out some rope without ground fall potential, but no more than that. If he is sane he isn't ignoring his safety he is calculating it.
May be confident but no need to highball on a crack like that
laser cut splitters rarely see cams fail...and if you dont fall nothing bad happens...just like in a wheelie on a motorcycle....
i dont know this guy but i do love him after watching this....NO HOMO!
very nice. He certainly travels light ... 5 mins in before placing his first piece ! If he had a grounder at that height a helmet probably wouldn't have helped anyway.
alex honnold
I don't like how the rope goes behind his leg for a bit at 6:25. If he fell there, he'd be flipped upside down and hit his head on the wall.
@claytonwalker9938
8 жыл бұрын
+flexibleaspect Yeah... but it's Jay Smith dude.
Gah I agree... freaking horrible climbers always demonstrating flawless technique and only placing mental pieces where they need them. or even climbing routes all together without protection thats just poor skill... also I mean People who can solo a route shouldnt hook up to a belayer yea they may get injured or stuck and want to set a piece to bail from but who doesn't commit like that .. WHO
I think that after 6:00, if he had taken a fall, that would've been it. The path that his gear was placed in would've slammed him into a mantle
he has some climbing skill. but some skill is also in placing gear, he would have hit the floor if one of those cams failed
Climbing cracks is great if your masochist, jaming hurts bad.
@paulmitchell5349
5 жыл бұрын
tape up and learn some technique
I have climbed with Jay at Super Crack Buttress a few times. The fact he is supposedly guiding is a joke! Reminds me of the old John Long Learning to Climb films. No helmet is just for starters. Jay is a great climber but terrible guide and has been freeloading off his families trust for a long time. Cams Skid even at Indian Creek and people that fall off usually land on or hit their heads. Again, reminds me of the bullshit John Long learning to climb films.
Even the best climbers make mistakes. it only takes one mistake to loose your ability to continue your sport.
So have you exceeded the fall factors if you have then if your not dead on this climb eventually the numbers will get you Also why would you teach students or anyone to ignore safety. ?.. I love extreme sports ... flying, skydiving, windsurfing and am now returning to climbing..... Every one of these is our responsibility to promote safety following check lists and staying with In eatery margins This guy isv an ego a silent ego showing off.... Just because you don't yell out look at me Listen to these guys they are impressionable and will emulate you. ?.. And concerning the guys comments about this being like climbing a ladder to him ... so what he is unsafe if he is so great why did he use any anchors at all I have no problem with free climbers but my god don't set bad examples with rope for students
@logiconabstractions6596
6 жыл бұрын
I take it you're not trad climbing all that much yourself? You place the gear you need to make the climb safe. Some climbs you may be forced to run it for long stretches - you either do that climb or not. Of course he could have placed more gear in that case - but he didn't need to given the climb and his obviously very strong technique in pristine rock. While leading on gear, there's basically 2 components - the grade and the protection. You can push your limits on one of them at a time (but never both). Given his technic there, I see no problems in him using like 3 cams in the whole pitch.
@constantinosschinas4503
5 жыл бұрын
he could put one more friend after the first loft. falls where clean, he would not fall anyway, his hands were properly jammed so was not using much muscle power. this is trad climbing where each nut is calculated based on skill and efficiency, not sissy sport climbing with bolt every 2 metres.
Can I say it is not good practice to be teaching people to not place gear. Climbing is not about ego, he has all cams that are fast and easy to place there are no excuses.
@zachdavis9748
8 жыл бұрын
Is he really teaching them not to place gear? No one gets that run out unless they are secure by their skill, and knowledge of the route. The ducklings get top roped.
@mes6276
8 жыл бұрын
+doormat321 I believe it was peter croft that said.. a handjam is as good as a cam..
@NickDangerThirdGuy
8 жыл бұрын
and where is Peter Croft now?
@mes6276
8 жыл бұрын
Climbing somewhere awesome I imagine... because he is still alive.. and still strong as hell... sooooo your point?
Is it just me or did this guy take way too long to place any gear - especially if you are teaching? After all teaching good technique is pointless if your students take a massive fall and cripple themselves.