I dont remember Nicola Bulley being a violent criminal

@ziggarillo

14 күн бұрын

Lots of nasty things were posted on social media, by inconsiderate people, about her too.

@paulawilkinson6341

14 күн бұрын

It was a strange case how her body turned up after the police divers had spent days searching. It was a really sad ending for a beautiful mum ❤

@Tatti349

14 күн бұрын

@@ziggarillothe majority of people cared about Nicola a law abiding hard working citizen, wife and mother. Her case is completely different to this one

@goldeneddie

14 күн бұрын

@@ziggarillo Have you even bothered to inform yourself of his crimes? Don't you feel that you are being inconsiderate towards his victim? Do you have the same 'compassion' for the lad whose head was split open by Jay Slater and his mates wielding machetes, axes and golf clubs?

@theeyebrowsofcharlesbarkley

13 күн бұрын

@@goldeneddie do some research on Tom Hilton, his dangerous background and where he is now

SORRY..! I don't remember Nicola Bulley attacking anyone with machete....YOUR remarks are highly ignorant ......

@ziggarillo

14 күн бұрын

People said unnecessary things about her too. People are nasty. They are both examples of human beings who didn't get help when they needed it.

@ziggarillo

14 күн бұрын

The both had nasty comments made about them, by inconsiderate people, whilst the search went on. Why people want to punish the families of these people, is mystery.

@Tatti349

14 күн бұрын

⁠@@ziggarillohow is people stating jays recent criminal history which is facts “nasty comments”?

@paulfitzpatrick3090

14 күн бұрын

What is being referred to is the response of the mass media not the individuals

@alexthorne6996

14 күн бұрын

The conspiracy theories I've read are wild and damaging. Alot are attacking the mother and family. So there are similarities.

Drug dealers have dealt with him

@paulawilkinson6341

14 күн бұрын

Most definitely to do with drugs . He’s a dealer back we’re he lives I believe. Seen a local from his area posting

@dejavugodssonxrp6624

14 күн бұрын

He was probably kidnapped by a cult and taken in the mountains and satanic ritual abused

@luckystone2293

12 күн бұрын

So is Lucy

@12tribes61

11 күн бұрын

Why would they go out to Spain to do him over?

@duncansmith7562

10 күн бұрын

fingers crossed

No, it is now foul play, he went looking for trouble and he found it. He never had intentions of a fun holiday with friends, he went looking for drugs, he met with the criminal crowd, his demise is of his own undoing. Remember DON'T DEAL IN DRUGS anywhere.

@alanbeaumont4848

14 күн бұрын

So, you think there is a shortage of drugs in Britain...

@2kool4myskool

14 күн бұрын

@@alanbeaumont4848 Of course not, he is in Tenerife of his own free will, my theory is that ,if they can't find the body, it's because it's been dispossed of.

@liamjones9115

14 күн бұрын

​​@@2kool4myskoolwhere is this assertion 'he went looking for trouble' and he was dealing drugs coming from?

@2kool4myskool

14 күн бұрын

@@liamjones9115 He didn't go to the otherside of the island looking for chocolate chip cookies.

@liamjones9115

14 күн бұрын

@@2kool4myskool No need to get sarcastic fella. I was asking a genuine question, subsequently done a bit of research and seen he's a wrong 'un. And the Immediate GoFundme sounds suspicious as well.

real reporters would investigate the stories that are being repeated online instead of dismissing online sleuths , but they are all stuck in the same safe blinkered gutter

@Real_Ivan_ooze

14 күн бұрын

Calm down armchair detective

@paulawilkinson6341

14 күн бұрын

💯 he’s either been picked up by a dangerous person or he’s walked into the deep no go mountain area ! Don’t think this kid is alive 6 days an nothing

@Gimenez528Hz

12 күн бұрын

​@@Real_Ivan_ooze Eh you she's only making a point Shes allowed isnt she

@Gimenez528Hz

12 күн бұрын

Stella, I agree. They would be wise to follow some of it up

Poor lad first holiday abroad without his mum and his machete.

@liamjones9115

14 күн бұрын

Machete?

@MelMumeni

14 күн бұрын

​​@@liamjones9115 He was part of a group of lads that used to run around with axes and machetes and they attacked some guy with a machete. It's on Google. He got community service. It was 5 years ago

@LauraLouise-he6um

14 күн бұрын

@@liamjones9115Google jay slater machete

@crazyhai8155

14 күн бұрын

​@liamjones9115 Machete. A few years ago, he (and 7 other teenagers) attacked a 17-year-old with a machete. The victim ended up with his skull exposed. Despite even the judge saying they had no remorse and were laughing in court, they all got community sentences. Plenty of mainstream papers published about it at the time. You only need to google them.

@Jamiejanes926

14 күн бұрын

Bitter

I think one of three things are possible. 1. He set off on foot without water, maybe fell maybe not, succumbed to the terrian and the heat and has died. 2. The stories circulating online about possible involvement in drugs are true and he's being held or has been disposed of. 3. He's hiding out somewhere so the GoFundMe can get to a nice juicy level and all of a sudden he'll appear or "be found". The grifting is the most suspicious piece of this puzzle for me. What's it for?

@paulawilkinson6341

14 күн бұрын

I would lean more towards no 2

@richardcoats6430

14 күн бұрын

Out on alimb and go with option 3.

@goldeneddie

14 күн бұрын

The grifting could plausibly be to raise money to pay his suppliers if he deals in drugs. He may have gotten in too deep, and owe a lot of money to dangerous people.

@morrisizing

14 күн бұрын

The 'gofund me' campaigns on things like these are usually scammers with nothing to do with the case. Similarly those asking for ransoms etc from the family

@Israelipropaganda

13 күн бұрын

or you could get a life?

I understand the need to be respectful to his family, but the false presentation of Jay as a lovely mild mannered, nieve lad on his 1st trip on his own & not the violent criminal that should have been serving a long sentence for his crime not away partying abroad. It is conspiracy worthy that someone can be part of a vicious armed attack with probable links to class A drugs and not do time with a lack of investment in new prison spaces and lenient courts. The media & police could have been more open with a statement along the lines of 'at this time his disappearance is not believed to be connected to his past criminal activity'.

@robertbones326

13 күн бұрын

Your account has no subscribers. You have no experience investigating stories. You haven't interviewed anyone. You just typed a story from behind your keyboard. No sources what so ever. Why do you think this little story you've typed up is significant? Why don't the press think it's significant? Why don't police looking for him think it's significant? Like, you're literally no one. You haven't even identified yourself. Do you not see how much of a troll you are? You could be an lonely and bitter old man for all I know. Why are you trying to be some sort of keyboard investigator? You're not the press mate.

@maggieedwards3951

11 күн бұрын

I hear you loud and clear and I read up on his past however on a human level if you care nothing about him think what his family are going through seriously ,he is still young lad ,and these nonstop comments are soul destroying and i don't even know them ,people need to just calm down and find a level of humaness ,it's really not right .

There’s only this Lucy’s word for it that he was lost , cut , thirsty and was gonna walk and she keeps changing her story !! Also in her interview she said called 911 to report him missing … she’s spent loads of time in Spain yet doesn’t know the emergency number is 112 ????

@margaretmorrissey4540

13 күн бұрын

Yes exactly if you don't know exactly where you are why ring a friend when your battery is low and no water the first thing would be the emergency service and apparently this same girl set up a go fund me for him

@lisapinfold506

12 күн бұрын

Telling porkies 100%. Needs to be investigated properly

nothing like nicola bulley

@SL-ud7tf

14 күн бұрын

Agree. Read some comments about how it's similar to the Karen Matthews story. Sad if it is.

@hedgehogwildlifejunction9119

14 күн бұрын

so agree nothing.

@ziggarillo

14 күн бұрын

They both had nasty social media comments made about them, presumably to upset the families, whist the search was in progress.

@12tribes61

11 күн бұрын

It will end the same way

Hes been abducted by aliens

@Israelipropaganda

13 күн бұрын

All that probing, he will sure walk funny when they drop him back.

I didn't know that Nicola Bulley had criminal past.

@lukebarton5075

12 күн бұрын

Well that’s ignorance for you!

It’ll be the same as the Shannon mathews case, a financial incentive

Karma is a machete.

I can’t help thinking his recent violent drug crime past has got something to do with this. Guess that makes me an unhinged conspiracy theorist troll.

Is he the bloke that attacked someone with a machete, and was after drugs when he went missing.?

what is the difference between this case and the one with Dr Michael Mosley? NOTHING. He went off walking at 1.30pm in the heat right in very unstable ground similar to Tenerife, he had no phone with him. This young man for some reason decides instead of staying in the house with the 2 guys he met at a rave, would suddenly get up with no charge on his phone, or water and wonder off into the night in a strange place. Dr Mosely it took 4 days to find his body which was like 32 seconds to a bar, and no one noticed him. This young man goes off not knowing how to get back to his digs, and is now lost. I expect he is in plain sight just no one has found him yet. I bet you he isn't far from where he wondered off from. The terrain is dangerous and confusing even for those who know it well. It would have been very very cold at night he was only wearing light clothes. If he fell and his phone showed where his last signal was, where is the phone? The only odd thing for me is where are the 2 guys, and why didnt they offer to take him home safe or at least encourage him to stay? As to bully case i dont see any resemblance to it whatsoever. Apart from the people following the case who still insist she was murdered. The trouble is now we have the Internet and so many sleuths. This is just a simple case, gets disoriented same as dr mosley. Goes missing the same and sadly i think he will be found the same. IMHO.

@t-a2057

14 күн бұрын

I totally agree. The most obvious and simple explanation is usually the right one. Very hot, lost, no water, arid environment.

@schofield4836

14 күн бұрын

You’re deluded …. He got caught by the Moroccan mafia with his hand in the drugs biscuit tin he was selling for them. His “worried friend” has also been arrested.

@crazyhai8155

14 күн бұрын

@hedgehogwildlifejunction. I'll give you a theory, why he went home with 2 strangers. And why he was wandering around so unprepared the next day - and why it seemed a good idea, to attempt a 10 hour walk. Drugs. I certainly don't know for sure, but it's a distinct possibility. He had been convicted of class A drug use when he was 16, in relation to the machete attack (that he was involved in), on another teenage boy. So he was at a rave on Tenerife. Then meets two guys, who promise him drugs at their apartment. Next day he's still disorientated, and starts making silly decisions.

@turkeytwizzler1930

14 күн бұрын

Michael Mosley never attacked anyone with a machete

@EthanLomas

14 күн бұрын

He was probably high on the E and the 4 loads he had taken from the men he met

The very sad Michael Mosley case being used as a blueprint?

I love internet sleuths ❤️ they solved the Gabby Petito case

I think he's with the England squad, they haven't turned up either 😅🤣

@danmcr2884

14 күн бұрын

Deserved more likes that one

@callumnowell22

14 күн бұрын

Facts

I think his past has caught up with him

I'm surprised any of us are still around, quite frankly.

@12tribes61

11 күн бұрын

Why?

What I don't understand is why people still post unsubstantiated stuff online that can be slanderous and libellous. People get sued for what they post online yet I still see people do it. Why would you put yourself in that position? Far too many humans let the dopamine part of their brains take over

@crazyhai8155

14 күн бұрын

Because: a) it's very hard to find them for a civil case. They're often anonymous/using a pseudonym. b) It's very expensive to sue a multitude of people, even if you could find them. And indeed - if you win, and they are ordered to pay up, you'll struggle to get the compensation (if they don't have it). c) His family are distracted by other things. They aren't likely to go pursuing idiots on the internet. d) They'd have to prove the accused KNEW it was a lie/falsehood. You can't win a case for libel, if they honestly believed their theory was a possibility.

The only similarity is that they both disappeared. Nicola didn't do anything that put her at risk, hers was a very unfortunate genuine accident, jay on the other hand was clearly a drug and risk taker who thought he could carry on in a foreign unfamiliar country as he did in the UK

Who’s fronting the cost for this?

@paulawilkinson6341

14 күн бұрын

The drug cartels who pay the Spanish police overtime 😂

@OldSchoolStrength

14 күн бұрын

@@paulawilkinson6341 this

There is a reason Accident & Emergency is called ACCIDENT and emergency.

Watch this disappear very quickly off the news

@tayachting6345

13 күн бұрын

That or be used to push some political narrative.

Why dont you talk out his past?

@ziggarillo

14 күн бұрын

It's currently irrelevant, later perhaps they'll get into that.

@goldeneddie

14 күн бұрын

@@ziggarillo Jay's criminal past Is not irrelevant. It informs the likely reasons for his disappearance. and it also alerts people who might be considering donating to hi gofundme page.

@wattage2007

13 күн бұрын

⁠@@ziggarilloHis violent crime past is far from irrelevant. I think it’s 100% relevant to why he disappeared.

@rugpulled

11 күн бұрын

Nah irrelevant would insinuate no relevance this is not the case here i would assume the professionals need all data everything known about a person to get a clear Insight​ @@ziggarillohow would keeping information out help? Don't understand this point.

Looking for a needle in a haystack here.This lad could not possibly have survived.Recovery is going to be extremely difficult.If they ever find his remains!!!.IMO

He’s fallen down the mountain . END OF

@KINGSLEY-TV

14 күн бұрын

Nah nonsense I think he got kidnapped by a pack of Bigfoot and they are spanking his monkey as we speak lol

@jordanmitchell9742

14 күн бұрын

i was thinking the same thing ans prolly hit the water sadly.

@ForteanResearcher

14 күн бұрын

Why would he be up a mountain ?

@12tribes61

11 күн бұрын

Just like Nicola 🎭

If the media don’t like conspiracies then why air it . Makes no sense people are not going to sit their , be like oh I have no opinion.

@12tribes61

11 күн бұрын

The media is the biggest conspiracy going with their fake news and targeted news they want you to hear.

This guy is really over selling it. 1.) The case is a mysterty getting a lot of media coverage. 2.) The media are not speaking about Jay's past, probably for legal reasons but it leaves a big gap that people are filling with logical and illogical possibilities. That's it.

gossip is the only thing that links these two cases

@ziggarillo

14 күн бұрын

Well yes, and the fact they both went missing, and the outcome may well be the same.

The parallels are that there are drugs involved. Nicola was harmless. Jay wasn't. Nicola was a victim. Jay us the Narcissistic scamming others.

@Laura-we8wl

13 күн бұрын

Do you know jay personally?

@courtneysquill8843

13 күн бұрын

@@Laura-we8wl No but the courts and the newspapers do and the footage of him laughing in court speaks volumes.

Gosh didn't realise he fell in to a river in England like nicola ...what are you on about...

There’s no mystery as to why so many people became actively involved in Nicolas case. A Mum had dropped her kids off at school, she took her dog for her morning walk, around a route she’d walked a 1000 times before. She then vanished in an instant & remained so, despite the best efforts of Police search teams, mountain rescue teams, dive teams, sonar teams, drones, thermal cameras, IR cameras, helicopters, cadaver dogs, 100s of volunteers, dozens of MSM hacks trampling all over the site, until the day after search teams pull out of the river, 23 days after going missing, a psychic & his friend, having travelled 50 miles on ‘a hunch’ find Nicola in the water, deceased. Nothing strange about that, right?

And the point of this video is….?

@springchicken893

14 күн бұрын

Agree

@wattage2007

13 күн бұрын

For self proclaimed journalists to sound informed and important.

It's always been the same but now with social media people say things online instead of just at the pub. No reason why they shouldn't as long as they don't wildly speculate and make accusations without back up knowledge.

You could be forgiven for thinking these presenters are all moulded from a default mould and rolled off the factory floor they all sound the same.

@wattage2007

13 күн бұрын

Totally. Script reading empty vessels, paid to push the message.

@razamughal4582

11 күн бұрын

Such a good point, I think that about the radio channel LBC.

Do your research jay slater wasnt innocent

Online trolls or not. I still believe there was more to the Nicola Bulley case. It was proper strange.

Dont give up your day job mate! Your not a good judge of human nature!

He's definitely in the water imo

This will be a 411 case

@ziggarillo

14 күн бұрын

Of course, that only happens in the US. This is Spain 😂 This is a CNDES case

@SimonWild-xc2kg

14 күн бұрын

@@ziggarillo I'm uk I just watch them .

@ForteanResearcher

14 күн бұрын

@@ziggarilloLook into the number of joggers & trail runners who’ve gone missing on Madeira over recent years. Maybe that might stop you laughing. No guarantees.

The family know what's happened here they should speak out and say what they know what happened during his stay

I remember the friend of Nicola setting up Go fund me for all the wrong reasons as could be said with the slater lad

"bizarre, insensitive theories" as bizarre as searching a wilderness area for 10 days even though there is no evidence Slater ever went there? as bizarre as that?

Whatever jay did....was in his past. The boy lived....survived! He doesnt deserve to die.....it wasnt him alone resonsible. 8 others were involved.

@stellarickhards9500

14 күн бұрын

100%. So bored of seeing 80% of comments on any post about it being along the lines of ‘karma.’ Yea, it sounds like what he did/was involved in was disgusting, but it doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve to live or be looked for…

@JamesMitchell-u9p

13 күн бұрын

​@stellarickhards9500 it does?

People were right to question the bulley case and this one.

Lots of theories

Nicola's disappearance seems to have been a complete accident. She didn't have a tough past.

My friends from Birmingham are really ANGRY as their holiday is being ruined by helicopters flying everywhere. He is DEAD. let him rest in peace

Most important bit of information is where his phone last pinged... He can't be far from there, he would have walked down a road where he saw a light source or civilisation from that point... Not up a mountain. His "friends" are anything but if he called saying he needs water and they haven't tried to find him and get him back. We're not being told everything here. He's either gone back with these two guys for drugs or sex... Possibly both. The fact he didn't stay overnight with them and he didn't leave hydrated suggests this strongly. Those two need serious questions asked of them; they didn't consider getting him home or has he left unannounced? When he's called a friend they've not sought to help him what was the conversation... She must know what he had been up to from that conversation.

The 2 cases couldn’t be more different. Shameless to try & link them.

Karma, live by the sword

Drugs everywhere but Tenerife run not by police

The media do the families no good by publicising these tragedies. Conspiracy theories abound, and are upsetting for them. Let the Spanish deal with it, and all being well the lad will be found alive and well 🤞🏻

@TheCnutofMonteCristo

14 күн бұрын

Well seeing as his mum said herself she thinks he's been kidnapped what does that tell you?

@hb4541

14 күн бұрын

With the 30k he's scammed out of people on that Go Fund Me page

@amywalker209

13 күн бұрын

I'd like to think how his family didn't know the business he was involved with, where the money was coming from and what the risks were. That's not reality though is it?

Yes the the gifting ... Go fund me.. Scam

Being thirsty, the kid probably went downwards looking for water pools or creeks

Wonder if his EMPLOYER is missing him

Really interesting look on the way news is now reported and the different outlets being used…..everyone has an idea or a theory to be told and social media is the outlet for it

The guys he went off with cut their holiday short and did a runner from the Island the same day he vanished without a trace. Everyone knows only the guilty run..

It's more like Michael Mosley than Bulley.

@azillliasmith2734

14 күн бұрын

I don't think he was a violent criminal either?🤔

@ziggarillo

14 күн бұрын

Yes, that's true.

Once the GFM money reaches well over the £30,000 asked for, he'll make a miraculous appearance.

They wanted a world where opinion and fact are interchangeable. What do they expect?

I have to wonder if this video will age well?

Her names Nicola not Bulley ffs.

The only common ground is both were up North. Nicola was a lovely dignified, INNOCENT lady, and JS appears to be involved in crime, apparently dealing abroad. BOTH COMPLETE OPPOSITES 🙄

He is not on the branch of a shrub, take it from me

And the police and firms don't have the power of cctv noooooooooooooo

Nah Nicola wasn’t a criminal Jay was. I hope jays found safe but if not karma proves once again that it always gets its way.

The gofundme appeal will pay off his drug debt, well done all you thick donors !

I find the ‘theorising’ bizarre. It’s like the clammer around Princess Diana’s death. There’s huge amounts of emotional reasoning. My view is that people are often estranged from nature. They don’t compute a person simply being lost in nature. It’s easy to get lost. It’s easy to be a young man who makes a series of bad decisions. I get lost in the Lake District; where I know it well and have maps and compass. People just don’t realise how easy it is to be lost in a place like that.

I dont remember nicola bulley running around with a gang of cretins attacking people with machetes, golf clubs, and axes.

Snobbery

I see no resemblance

What is the Go Fund Me money for if his family are staying in his Air BnB for free? And why has Lucy set it up? Who is in control of this 30k now?

The woman in the coffee shop seen him heading in the wrong direction, she should of went and told him that he was going the wrong way

@hedgehogwildlifejunction9119

14 күн бұрын

must admit i thought it was odd. how did she know he was going the wrong way as well?

@crazyhai8155

14 күн бұрын

​@@hedgehogwildlifejunction9119Because she has only since found out (after he went missing), what his destination was? So she knows NOW, that he was going 'the wrong way'?

@gloriathompson4010

11 күн бұрын

She saw nothing

Why compare these cases. The only thing is thy both come from Lancashire. Period

"Grief Tourist"

as an english man i would like to say this. we need to find jay .regardless of how and why jay is missing, lots of conspiracies, opinions . its an island and unless someone has taken him he should 100% be on that island . the technology we have now shouldn't take this long . i want to send my sorrow to his family but also send my hate to the channels that are taking advantage just like the nicola bully case. absolutely disgraceful. #findjayslater

The weather was hot

Free speech is not allowed here

Don't forget, it was an 'armchair detective' who found poor Nicola Bulley... the real detectives didn't! May she rest in peace. 🌞

@ziggarillo

13 күн бұрын

No, they didn't

@elizabethrawbone4297

12 күн бұрын

A medium found Nicola.

A lot of dependence people rely on the drugs from people

Go-fund me fools

College was alright yesterday

@soccergalsara

11 күн бұрын

?

I just hope there able to find he may of had a past but still as a human being he’s still young

Has anyone just thought that this is eerily similar to some Missing 411 cases? The similarities that link up to the disappearance are pretty common in this.

@tayachting6345

13 күн бұрын

Reminds me of all those holiday makers who go to Mexico or the American deserts and never seen again.

nope nothing to see here

If nicola was in the river she would have been found sooner look into peter faulding and his lies saying he seen her on his sonar .in the river why lie .and fool the public nicola was at no point in the river .all those search parties were not wrong. guys yous know whos running the show and who instructed the police.

More like victor martin teni

And the police work with that very sadly so yes the king should get involved here now

Why are we judging a 19 year old kid on his past or his supposed drug taking? He doesnt deserve to be lost or murdered. His family would be heartbroken if anything has happened to him. Where's the compassion for him? Its sad if anyone gets involved with drugs, especially young boys. I hope they find him. Praying for him ❤

@springchicken893

14 күн бұрын

Stop calling him a kid.

@GiantAnt-lf1ty

13 күн бұрын

Where was his compassion when he was sniggering in court after splitting another boy's head open with a machete! Your stupidity and ignorance is astounding 🤡🙄🥱

@wattage2007

13 күн бұрын

Because he’s not a kid and the reason for his ‘holiday’ was probably directly linked to his violent drug crime activities in the past.

@laremabella

13 күн бұрын

@@wattage2007 i don't care. He's a kid if you're not a gen z brat that understands nothing. He's a kid to me and he's somebody's son. Who doesn't mess up in their youth and gets into things thats bad for them? He doesn't deserve to be murdered or die young. What's so hard to understand about that?

@wattage2007

13 күн бұрын

@@laremabella Play with bull, get the horns. What’s so difficult to understand about that?

Bit of a woolly Bulley connection. Some fair old sham report.

The Young lax thought he was a tough gang member.

Lucy knows.

‘Established news outlets’ 🤣 The people there making sure the truth gets out ? Is that them ? 😏 #YeahRight

We’re all thinking it I’m just saying it……..Bigfoot

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