JAW ANGLE IMPLANTS | Why doesn't anyone talk about them?

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In this video, Dr. Zelken explores the nuances, challenges, risks, and benefits of jaw angle implants. The mandibular angle, also known as the JAW angle or GONIAL angle is both a measurement (i.e., 140 degrees) AND an anatomic landmark. Its prominence can be attractive, and may be enhanced with jaw angle implant placement. But because the operation is nuanced, challenging, and at higher risk for complications- jaw angle implants are relatively infrequently used. And perhaps because of this, fewer surgeons are trained to place jaw angle implants, and so there are fewer surgeons available to discuss this important procedure to the masses. Dr. Zelken responds to one viewer's request for additional knowledge on JAW ANGLE IMPLANTS in this show and tell session. If you are interested in jawline enhancement with implants, liposuction, facelift, or fillers, call (949) 432-4730 and make an appointment to see Dr. Zelken.

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  • @racctor
    @racctor6 ай бұрын

    the real qustion is why there are not more surgeons that talk about custom jaw implants?

  • @GinoOrthodoxChristian

    @GinoOrthodoxChristian

    13 күн бұрын

    Takes money away from fillers.

  • @ubettaeat4303
    @ubettaeat43034 ай бұрын

    More doctors need to talk about this, pro and cons about jaw implants surgery

  • @fibbs6533
    @fibbs65334 ай бұрын

    Very informative.

  • @susanlloyd
    @susanlloyd10 ай бұрын

    Are there before and after pictures?

  • @Cookingcousin
    @Cookingcousin24 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much for talking about this could you do a more detailed video for patients wanting to know if they should get mandibular implants, chin implants or both?

  • @GregoryTheGr8ster
    @GregoryTheGr8ster3 ай бұрын

    Now I wish that I still lived in Newport Beach, cuz I'd pay you a visit in a heartbeat! I have been curious about this exact implant for a while.

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    3 ай бұрын

    We do offer virtual consultations and many of our patients are from out of state.

  • @GregoryTheGr8ster

    @GregoryTheGr8ster

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanzelkenmd Ahhhh, I hadn't thought of that. Nonetheless, I have some other procedures that are higher priority than jaw augmentation; so it will be a long time before I could even consider your work. I will remember you, though!

  • @wintermatherne2524
    @wintermatherne252410 ай бұрын

    Thank you for posting this.

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    10 ай бұрын

    My pleasure. Its easy to make videos about my passion projects.

  • @MarcelloCantu
    @MarcelloCantu6 ай бұрын

    Have you done many of these implant surgeries? I cant find any before and after pics other than one female on your website. I had a chin implant 7 years ago and want to replace it with a full jaw implant.

  • @michaeldro7317
    @michaeldro731710 ай бұрын

    Wow thanks for covering this so quick! Did have another question however. With the Stryker implant specifically, you mentioned it cups the gonial angle (which I assume means it slides underneath and around the back of the bone as well), but how would this impact the masseter muscle and where it attaches to the bone? Doesn't the masseter muscle insert/attach on top of the lateral or outside of the mandible? I would think this would tear the masseter or make it impossible for the implant to cup around the bone, as apposed to the implanttech where you mentioned it sorta sits on the bone. So how does an implant like this work when dealing with the masseter? Also is this a procedure you do often and have experience with? Thanks again for the video and featuring me haha.

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    10 ай бұрын

    The masseter doesn’t really connect to the bone directly. It becomes ligamentous and extends to the backside like a sling. The entire implant is placed underneath that sling without disrupting it. I have experience with this procedure and would like to perform jaw implant surgery more often.

  • @stuartwaterman-fc9pt
    @stuartwaterman-fc9pt7 ай бұрын

    Dr. Zelken, which jaw angle implants do you use the most, and from which company? And do you always use screw fixation, even with MEDPOR? Thanks for this much-needed video!

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    7 ай бұрын

    I use Implantech silicone implants most often and rely on screw fixation most of the time. Especially with Medpor. My pleasure

  • @stuartwaterman-fc9pt

    @stuartwaterman-fc9pt

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanzelkenmd Thanks!

  • @stuartwaterman-fc9pt

    @stuartwaterman-fc9pt

    4 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanzelkenmd The implant you're handling in the video--is it the RZ Mandibular Angle Implant? I'm planning my own jaw implant procedure, and am researching different implant shapes and styles. Thanks!

  • @SnjuSachin
    @SnjuSachin5 ай бұрын

    i want a cheek bone just like diamond face shape people have ..is it possible to get that

  • @stevenmichaeleich9856
    @stevenmichaeleich98563 ай бұрын

    What is the estimated cost of this procedure? I don't see it listed on your website. Thanks!

  • @frasierfrasier1769
    @frasierfrasier17696 ай бұрын

    Is there a lot of downtime and is the swelling a factor.

  • @po54ful
    @po54ful9 ай бұрын

    What do you think about custom implants? Are they worth the extra cost? I am afraid if I go with off the shelf implants, they won't fit well

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    9 ай бұрын

    It truly depends on your anatomy and goals. Remember: off the shelf implants can be customized with a scalpel to some degree

  • @markmcgrath4853
    @markmcgrath48537 ай бұрын

    very good work ! do you do any treatments in england uk ? thank you

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    7 ай бұрын

    I do not, sorry. Someday.

  • @bobbyperu8414

    @bobbyperu8414

    5 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanzelkenmd ever in Europe ?

  • @jamesbauer8516
    @jamesbauer85162 ай бұрын

    Dr. Zelken, Are polyethylene jaw implants capable of being removed after a certain timeframe if the final result isn’t satisfactory once healing is complete? If so, is a polyethylene jaw implant difficult to remove after a potential malposition? I’m a little confused as to the “absorption” part… Does the implant itself essentially become part of the actual jaw bone over time making it difficult for removal? What does the implant absorb? Very interesting video Thank you!

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you. Its not resorption so much as remodeling. And PEEK implants can certainly be removed. The risk of implant malposition is lower with custom devices that “key” in to position.

  • @ohtajeule
    @ohtajeule7 ай бұрын

    hello doctor, Placing implants in the angle and jaw line will pull the soft tissues and have a lifting effect on the jowls and turkey neck? I have a high, short and stiff mandible.

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    6 ай бұрын

    It is certainly possible but you would have to be seen in person to better assess your question and set expectations

  • @markpommett5712
    @markpommett57128 ай бұрын

    What is the probability of silicone jaw implants moving position over time? I'm a bit concerned about having them screwed in case I don't like them but I also don't know how reliable silicone is. Thanks

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    8 ай бұрын

    Unlikely to move over time. Silicone can easily pull free from a screw but it holds things in place while scar tissue secures the device in position.

  • @jinxful2658
    @jinxful26589 ай бұрын

    Could this be used to fix jaw asymmetry, for example if one side is bigger than the other? If so what are the best options

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes to a certain extent- it depends on your bite (occlusion) and other features as well.

  • @Mr-vi1up
    @Mr-vi1up8 ай бұрын

    What are the ramus lengthening limitations with porous polyethylene implant? Is 20 - 25 mm achievable?

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    8 ай бұрын

    If placed properly that would extend the pterygomasseteric sling considerably and may be too much. Of course you would need to be examined first.

  • @mepansur
    @mepansur7 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the information. I have a question please about custom made implants. Once the implant is in and everything is set and done, how long does it last ? How many months or years ?

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    7 ай бұрын

    I have patients who have facial implants that were placed 40-50 years ago.

  • @MegaCosmoVision

    @MegaCosmoVision

    6 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanzelkenmdhow much does the surgery cost?

  • @bobbyperu8414

    @bobbyperu8414

    5 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanzelkenmd would it be possible to reduce an implant after 20 yrs ? ...like bone shave it / grind it into shape ?.... if too big

  • @Soulxter
    @Soulxter4 ай бұрын

    I have a short ramus(not visible tbh)but a relatively long and sharp jawline but i feel like the chin is bit recessed Can jaw angle implants help aslo ig theres a need of chin implants alongside it to match the ratio and facial symmetry

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    4 ай бұрын

    You would certainly need to be examined to make this determination

  • @channel-yg2xc
    @channel-yg2xc3 ай бұрын

    What do you think about bone resorption caused by silicone implants?

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    3 ай бұрын

    I think it happens but is not as big a deal as you might think. Stay tuned for a video on the topic.

  • @Geneattenborough
    @Geneattenborough7 ай бұрын

    Can you do bone (rib) instead of artificial elements?

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes, it’s possible but would take a much larger incision to shape and position the graft, and would not reliably take. Resorption would be unacceptable and unpredictable. Not to mention the donor site…

  • @rachedhaddar9741
    @rachedhaddar97419 ай бұрын

    If someone does it late 20s how the aging effect will be, do they cause harmony issues with aging?

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    9 ай бұрын

    Probably not as it is simply reshaping the jawline for the better.

  • 2 ай бұрын

    do you know of any ways to fix masseter muscle disinsertion from jaw implants?

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    2 ай бұрын

    I am sorry you re dealing with this. I have not treated this complication before. If pressed, I would consider accessing the masseter through a deep plane facelift approach and repairing the dehiscence under direct visualization. Or you could remove the implant and let the tissue contract.

  • @ngalahansel6066
    @ngalahansel60665 ай бұрын

    What if someone has a sort of square looking face and wants a little more V-shape look. How much would that cost?

  • @thedjflawless

    @thedjflawless

    4 ай бұрын

    I second that!

  • @paulshealthfitness7922
    @paulshealthfitness79223 ай бұрын

    you have any before/afters? also what is the healing time?

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    3 ай бұрын

    Hi there, we just posted one on our Instagram page @jonathanzelkenmd

  • @tuxipops
    @tuxipops8 ай бұрын

    Can genioplasty or Orthognathic surgery achieve this wider jaw angle or only with implants ?

  • @Alesedit

    @Alesedit

    7 ай бұрын

    Implants

  • @amandahuber8715
    @amandahuber87152 ай бұрын

    Can this be combined with a deep plane necklift procedure or would it not be recommended to do both at once?

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    2 ай бұрын

    Depends on your physical examination but its possible

  • @amandahuber8715

    @amandahuber8715

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanzelkenmd Thank you!

  • @nvb455
    @nvb45510 ай бұрын

    Finally!

  • @Benjamin-ml7sv
    @Benjamin-ml7sv2 ай бұрын

    Is there a way to make the gonian outward?

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely

  • @edenferriss768
    @edenferriss7682 ай бұрын

    What can one do for hypertrophied parotids due to bulimia?

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    2 ай бұрын

    Neurotoxins like Botox may be a starting point

  • @user-js5uk6fd9v
    @user-js5uk6fd9v2 ай бұрын

    I had jaw angle implants 2 years ago but I don't like them. Is it possible to remove them? They are titanium material implants

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes these can be removed and you are not alone

  • @keepitreal6640
    @keepitreal66405 ай бұрын

    Have you ever done a Jaw implant? I had cancer five years ago that left me without a lower jaw. I am cancer free but at what cost. Talk about quality of life.

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes but it sounds like you are looking at a total mandibular reconstruction. I am sorry for your loss and glad you are cancer free, at the very least. Let me know if there’s anything I can do to help.

  • @MovieTime-AB
    @MovieTime-AB13 күн бұрын

    Is it possible to just widen and not lower the jaw angle? Even if it’s a little bit, I just want to widen the jaw angle and not to lower it.

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    13 күн бұрын

    Yes, although every widening implant has some impact on length, and vice versa

  • @morningmayan
    @morningmayan9 ай бұрын

    Dr. are jaw implants an option for me - a sixty year old woman with minor jowling who is losing bone in her jaw in leiu of a facelift? I'm also have teeth bone issues - thanks for your input

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    9 ай бұрын

    You would need to seen. For the dental issues - it may impact the maxilla and mandible relationship but assuming not, you might not need jaw implants given mild jowling and the prospect of deep fat transfer.

  • @btxteppei7327
    @btxteppei7327Ай бұрын

    😊hi from Brazil viewer

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    Ай бұрын

    Hello

  • @naegleriafowleri2230
    @naegleriafowleri22308 ай бұрын

    Maybe cause is very expensive i read is like $10-15k

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    8 ай бұрын

    Correct

  • @heresmytwocents5977

    @heresmytwocents5977

    19 күн бұрын

    Good to know. Some day, both my daughter and I will schedule a consultation (maybe when we win the lottery 😬). Chins and jaws are almost nonexistent in our DNA. 😒

  • @100XPercentX
    @100XPercentX2 ай бұрын

    Can they be removed?

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes absolutely

  • @cactusjack3059
    @cactusjack30593 ай бұрын

    Sounds extremely expensive

  • @tawren
    @tawren4 ай бұрын

    Please don't add the soft background music it really adds nothing. I'm sure everyone viewing this is totally focused on what you are saying and it just distracts from this.

  • @jonathanzelkenmd

    @jonathanzelkenmd

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the feedback - I will change this

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