The importance of architecture for our collective self-image cannot be understated. Are we a parasite on the planet or a beautifying force? I hope this project succeeds! And that it will be the first of many

Great discussion. Jorjani is so underrated.

@pathkeepers

2 ай бұрын

BTR has kinda become the Jason Jorjani Podcast though.

@ToreMix7400

Ай бұрын

He's been on KZread for at least a decade...

@moormanjean5636

Ай бұрын

@@pathkeepers i wish

wow i get goosebumps listening to jorjani. what a brilliant mind. As an Iranian everything he is saying about geopolitics & muslim take over of europe & Iran rising up to to fight and save the west is true and will unfold

Dr Jason is soo right on this. Philosophy is first in the chain, it is the mind of transformation, but art and aesthetics are second, indispensable, the means of transformation.

@johnnygun85

14 күн бұрын

It’s really the other way around, philosophers have traditionally always got this wrong. Even Heidegger makes this clear, with being prioritised over thinking; Jung also. The artistic memetic comes first in all its abstractness, then rational philosophy. Philosophy is a foundation or framework for all nature and daily political life, but that foundation is build on the ground of a deep experience with nature (physis) and the deepest connection to nature’s raw spirit come through shamanic mysticism, and interaction with natural lived archetypes and spirits. Integrating them into a philosophical framework and a foundation for political life comes after.

@Thomas-sv4ii

10 күн бұрын

@@johnnygun85 i agree with u but id add that art, and philosophy can live in the same space as being first... not everything needs to be binary.

@johnnygun85

10 күн бұрын

@@Thomas-sv4ii simply put, passive consciousness or observation comes prior to active thought or analysis. Which is why children need to learn language and an identity, after lots of experience and observation. And why ego-death occurs for adults trying to reconnect with themselves beyond their thoughts and worldly identity.

I’m sold honestly

"Metal, probably..." Fuckin classic

@readyfuels17

Ай бұрын

Lev with an absolute brilliant question

Prometheus on Alcatraz would be a nice symbol for breaking free.

@faza553

2 ай бұрын

Watch: Short animated film: KINGDOM.

I've been pondering a mythical statue to revivify the American dream and this is such a perfect idea set up by the best man for the job. WOO FIRE ME UP

Mithra in the east. Promethius in the west. Christ in the middle. That's America in a nutshell.

@samrosendahl392

16 күн бұрын

The statue should be of Artemis not prometheus. We already have prometheus in NY

@drewdevlin3345

14 күн бұрын

@@samrosendahl392 why Artemis specifically?

@samrosendahl392

14 күн бұрын

@@drewdevlin3345 it is the one remaining version of the archetype that hasn't been built yet

@drewdevlin3345

14 күн бұрын

@@samrosendahl392 interesting. Can you unpack that a little? I'm not familiar.

I thought Stef did well on this one: he turned up.

@sum1868

Ай бұрын

And kept a straight face for most of the time.

@watermelonmanied

Ай бұрын

I'm not trying to be sly here, it's a genuine compliment. It could be mistaken as sarcasm.

@wijny4222

Ай бұрын

😂😂 sounds like he‘s some misbehaving auitstic kid „today u did well.“

@watermelonmanied

Ай бұрын

@@wijny4222 Well to be fair, there aren't many of us who'd come off as the sharpest in the room next to Prof. Jorjani. So no disrespect.

Combining a trip to Mars and Promethean statue looks like an epic rebirth

Love the talk need more often! Would have loved to heard more about Jason’s thoughts on Robert Sepeher.

@moormanjean5636

Ай бұрын

That would be very interesting to hear

I like how Alcatraz is akin to Elis Island. I hope it’s conserved into a museum showcasing the prison-to-freedom methos.

Oh heck yea! Always the ultimate interlocutors. Been waiting for this.

The Rock was an excellent action movie from the 90's that had a really good plot and themes, not to mention a really good car chase.

@igunashiodesu

2 ай бұрын

Also Nick Cage using Elton John's “Rocket Man” as a one-liner.

NFTs often bear a bad reputation due to previous iterations and the sometimes 'scammy' undertones associated with them, yet they represent a novel technology. This mirrors the initial skepticism faced by Bitcoin and Ethereum. Just as people were critical of these cryptocurrencies in their early days, we can expect similar reactions to NFTs. From my perspective, there's untapped potential in this emerging form. Professor Jorjani presents an alchemical argument for its significance, and there's also the innovative financial mechanisms it offers. Additionally, there's something appealing and poetic in using these new financial technologies to birth the Titan of Technology itself, as if technology is bringing itself into being through 'autopoesis'.

@WHITEWHOADIE

2 ай бұрын

Once they make money off crypto they’ll understand

Bravo! This is truly awe-inspiring and motivating!

Something that just hit me - with the Prometheus statue, if you really want to go wild with it, why not have Prometheus pointing straight up gesturing at outer space? That gives it both warmth and a direction that's not other countries.

Hail Prometheus.

@MikeBeats-di5zm

25 күн бұрын

YOU'RE SUCH A STUPID SLAVE, YOU WEAKLING!

thank god for that $10 minimum

Great project Jason!

Brilliant discussion as always. So much to ponder. 👏👏👏

I went to college in fisherman’s wharf! This would be so dope lol

It was a wild moment hearing Stef talk about Iain, while Jason is speaking about his first book because The Master and His Emissary sits right next to Prometheus and Atlas, among other books on the shelf right next to my monitor. I never necessarily connected the two explicitly but this is just fantastic to know I'm reading in the right direction, not only philosophically but how it relates to us neurologically in a broader historical context.

Get Jorjani drunk or high for the next one. And Neal sober just to flip the script.

So good to get the gang together again! [I'm +1 all the way on this, btw] Funny i woke up listenin to this, today... "Wargasm, wargasm, one, two, three Smutty bloody pictures, ecstasy Blue balls waiting impatiently From Alcatraz to Lady Liberty" San Fran needs help. Asian Culture there could use it, too. A Prime redirect for The Times & mo. +1 all the way Hail Prometheus. Viva La USA & The Humanist Project We represent. Welcome One, Welcome All. lfg! [again: so great to see UberBoyo again!!!] Here's to what comes next 🔥❤ 🥂

What a spectacular vision this is. Exciting discussion gentlemen.

GET JASON ON WITH YARVIN.

Great discussion again .really educational. Also Jason is very inspiring with his ideology of promitiousim .

The future is so close, but so far away!

57:49 - If I get what Jason is saying, a statue has something like the cultural version of software scalability, and that even becomes literal if the statue becomes an Instagram, X, etc. tourist selfie-trap.

@Andrew-xk7zy

2 ай бұрын

It's one hell of an advertisement.

Cool idea! I remember I had a dream about 15 years ago that I had designed a statue on O'Connell st, Dublin. It was a moving statue composed of water. It was a statue of a woman who was dancing while looking up at the sky (holy f×ck, just now I remember that lady who used to dance on that street back when I was a kid in the 90's! Dancing Mary!!! She was clearly the inspiration for that dream.) The statue was huge and made of water which used electricity to sculpt the body of water into a giant dancing woman. And, in my dream, people were amazed that they didn't get soaked n the presence of this massive, swiftly moving water sculpture. When I woke up I remeber thinking how achievable this idea was. That was 15 years ago. Dublin has changed so much now that I doubt any personality such as Dancing Mary would be welcome there. Mary no longer dances in Dublin. We now have children getting randomly stabbed by foreign men. Such a quick change. Everyone talks about the change which has befallen San Francisco...why have they tried to mirror that same destruction in Dublin? Or have "they"? Is it natural or man-made? Is crack cocaine natural? Can anything be classified as "unnatural"? Who are this "they" and why are they waging a (no longer clandestine but open) war against Irish people?

Whose got the timestamps where they discuss the Nordics?

Statue of unity is Walebh Patel in India 😅

@simonjj7397

Ай бұрын

Not China 😮 appreciate the correction given the conversation I'm about to have.

How uberboyo and lev kept a straight face when the chat was spamming JRJ Pokemon Go! I will never know!

2:25:00 - 2:27:35 Wow, so much said with so little words. A large theme in Birth of Tragedy is summed up here.

am a very sad person, this is the highlight of my month, or 2.

He called the Israel Iran shizz

1:08:52 The statue of Unity is the statue of Sardar Patel and is located in Gujarat India not in China.

Great discussion and interesting ideas. I will have prometheism in my mind as a good idea

@majidjon13

Ай бұрын

The artifacts for The Maze should be stainless steel

You guys need to talk to Alex Becker about NFTs

Hail Prometheus and Hail Lucifer.

Should be Prometheus offering the fire down to the viewer /mankind

Lev - I submitted a $10 super chat that wasn't brought up. I understand it was a bit off topic but I'd appreciate it if it was asked on Dr. Jorjani's next appearance or I get a refund. My question was related to the alleged MH370 videos and if Jorjani thinks that might be the US leveraging Tesla's technology.

@breakth3rules

2 ай бұрын

If this was towards the very end, I apologize as I had to cut off the Superchats, but I can certainly ask this next time. Just remind me in the chat towards the end.

@BrazaBryan

2 ай бұрын

@@breakth3rules It was actually the second super chat into the podcast haha. But all good, I appreciate you responding. Hopefully I can join live for the next one.

@555KL

2 ай бұрын

Lev loves his shekels

@serafaus

2 ай бұрын

@breakth3rules why do you keep deleting comments? Censorship my a$$. Guess it’s only a matter of time before you are FORCED to move to rumble, or get a normal job. 🖕🏼

@theelastog1580

Ай бұрын

Do you refer to the videos Ashton talks about

Why not make a promethean video game?

NFTs are such a bad idea.

@baahbyjoe4850

2 ай бұрын

Agreed

@ashtonmilkyway

2 ай бұрын

Why?

@Mztbtc

2 ай бұрын

Big fan of jorjani but i agree

@aselfishimpulse

2 ай бұрын

Agreed, NFTs are a terrible idea - total fake/scammer vibes, need a better idea, they're a joke culturally at this point but maybe Jorjani isn't aware

@nathantinkler1862

2 ай бұрын

There is an element to NFTs that lend themselves to other things then price speculation.

Well done Lev, keep going! About the american civil war thing and red states owning a lot of guns; How are militias armed with rifles, guns and pistols going to stand a chance against modern heavy cavalry and ordnance? We've seen how that goes in multiple wars around the world.. Longterm guerilla warfare and many losses. Besides that, how many americans are fit for combat anyways. Any rational person who wants the best for humankind would be against such a war, since only a small group of devious people can benefit from such a war. Instead people need to be taught in order to work together. That is where philosophy comes in👌

@broosevain8282

2 ай бұрын

I think they'd point to South Vietnam's success against the technologically superior US.

What about the Hebrew idioms parables and parabolic pantomimes in the old and new testaments? Please answer Becky question. Becky #1 philosopher.

jorjani is iranian son of a shekhs and clerics , robert sepehr is a son of a cleric also , thats why they r to savage about each other

Ironically no one is talking about classical greek models and a viable path forward when Prometheus is the name of the movement. How many intellectual flowerings came from the greeks? Classical Greece. Then Greece under Rome continuing philosophy, medicine and science. Then Rome falls and in Byzantium they speak Greek and the schools continue on. Even after Byzantium falls those greek thinkers flee to Italy to spark the Renaissance. Maybe there is something special about the Greek languages, concepts and culture. Maybe returning to a Greek modle would fit the future.

I need 10 million if theres any billis watching right now

What do you do when there's a disagreement between progressive people and traditionalist people? Adopt a progressive tradition. 20:00

Dude. Seriously pronounce his last name correctly, it's a part of respect. Why is it hard for you to pronounce Reza, its his name...

1:25:00 probably should not have said that out loud...😨

San Francisco has historically not been a part of Silicon Valley and has only been considered part of it for the past 15 years or so. The rebuilding of San Francisco, and the recultivating of what made it special, starts with a diversity of industries. Tech is a geographically stratified industry and does not need to oversaturate San Francisco to thrive. The United States is also miles ahead of China technologically and will remain there. San Francisco and Seattle should not be the sacrificial lambs of American cities in the name of a paranoid fear of western decline.

Jason, I'm such a fan, but a Colossus on Alcatraz, Dude...are you smoking crack?!

@agelessbeing8641

2 ай бұрын

Very much needed, we live in cultural decay. I also liked the idea of Trump's garden of heroes.

@tomasramirez4985

2 ай бұрын

So sad that people don't understand the value of the symbolic.

@DerHammerSpricht

15 күн бұрын

No, the President's son smokes crack, and the President sniffs kids, but Jason is lucid as hell, literally.

Jason calls it Archeofuturism to please the audience. I've been following him for years now, and you won't find any perennial aspects in his worldview. He hates Traditionalism with a passion.

@DerHammerSpricht

15 күн бұрын

As does anyone who really tastes the air they breathe...

Steph is wrong [as usual] about his pretended [assumed] Trad Culture's merits, no less its cohesion. But, I love him, dearly. He's real deal. Thus: The Gang I choose, be here. nuff sed.

@theonetruetim

Ай бұрын

united against the woke dorkus hive-mind. yes. +1 [just to be clear] No!!! To phony Trad BS

Uh Jason….

jason talks shit about robert sepehr is ironic

Ubermidwito

this project sounds like a scam

Jorjani cringe posting with NFTs

pretty lame that jason didn't answer the exorcism and demonology question, and the next few questions were people blowing smoke up their booties. lame lame lame

Jason is getting seriously goofy. Civil war 😂.

@bryanutility9609

2 ай бұрын

Only takes one side to start a war. It’s already ongoing. The right just doesn’t know it.

@agelessbeing8641

2 ай бұрын

That's what people are called before every civil war. Often historians look back at a catalyst of a civil war happening before majority of the people at that time knew they were in one. Hope it never happens, can't prevent one if you don't take the possibility seriously.

@ashtonmilkyway

2 ай бұрын

To be fair he did say it would happen if Trump loses the election, but yeah I’m still with you. I don’t think things are that bad rn that would cause a civil war even if trump loses.

@bryanutility9609

2 ай бұрын

@@ashtonmilkyway because the right are fat incel nerds who don’t have the will to win even if the fight was brought to them.

No doubt Jason Reza Jorjani is an original thinker with a plethora of contributions to the history of ideas. But on politics in general, and especially Iran - Israel history and political relations, Jason is at best naive and embarrassingly goofy. There are so many baseless assumptions forming the foundations of his Iran - Israel historico-politico understanding, that his fantastical analysis and claims on the matter are patently false.

@DerHammerSpricht

15 күн бұрын

I wouldn't be able to discern myself if that's true, as I'm a mostly Irish American. But I hear lots of Iranian expats here say he is right about the future of Iran.

Get rid of Christianity with Prometheus. 1000s of years of history for a cartoon Greek Myth. 😂

@bryanutility9609

2 ай бұрын

My Christian neighbors just love Marvel movies.

@monkeymoment6478

2 ай бұрын

Your 1000 years of history mean nothing. History is a chain around the neck of the west.

@Albruna_USA

2 ай бұрын

The ignorance of zoomers boggles the mind.

The Birth of Tragedy introduced by Uberboyo £3.99 Kindle edition