JAME WILL BE FIRED IF VP DON'T WIN AN EVENT SOON / NIKO IS STILL TOP 20 - Hot Take Point Made 24

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Thorin, kassad, and Mauisnake swap hot takes on ESL Pro League results, Jame and Virtus.pro, NiKo, Team Liquid, G2, MAJ3R, and Eternal Fire.
Hot Take Point Made is a Counter-Strike talk show, hosted by Duncan "Thorin" Shields, Alex "Mauisnake" Ellenberg, and Aleksandar "kassad" Trifunović, where each host brings their hottest takes for the group to discuss.
This video was recorded on the 29th of April, 2024.
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0:00:00 - Intro
0:02:15 - If VP don't win a big event in the next 3 months, Jame will get fired
0:15:03 - kassad is one of the best coaches in CS
0:22:55 - NiKo is still a top 20 player
0:38:46 - TL should replace YEKINDAR with malbsMd
0:46:55 - MAJ3R can't be a world-class player
0:56:53 - G2 need to kick TaZ
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  • @KingT_CSGO
    @KingT_CSGO2 ай бұрын

    Malbs use to have an issue with saving - he sucked at it, always had to have one last peek and try to frag. When I pointed that out on Prospects, he actually responded and thanked me for it. The kid is a humble beast.

  • @cd2194

    @cd2194

    2 ай бұрын

    my humble kingt made malbs

  • @KingT_CSGO

    @KingT_CSGO

    2 ай бұрын

    @@cd2194 Haha, I wish

  • @meranonymandig6962
    @meranonymandig69622 ай бұрын

    9:20 Thorin, they already built a statue in Jame's honor in Rio after his major win.

  • @nofluffagain
    @nofluffagain2 ай бұрын

    Even in thorins conception of a modern console, he picked GameCube lmfao

  • @olsaaan

    @olsaaan

    2 ай бұрын

    I mean he followed on by mentioning anyone who is born in 2001 so he’s dead right🤣game cube was my console and I’m born in 2001

  • @Selendeki

    @Selendeki

    2 ай бұрын

    I've heard him more than once say something to the effect of "insane graphics like n64 games". I'm pulling deep, so I don't remember exactly when I heard these utterances.

  • @Einamu

    @Einamu

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Selendeki best of btn where Sam had to dub over N64 with ''Nintendo Switch''

  • @eduardocristaldo6403

    @eduardocristaldo6403

    2 ай бұрын

    to be fair, he is 87 years old

  • @Selendeki

    @Selendeki

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Einamu Good man

  • @evolvedHE
    @evolvedHE2 ай бұрын

    best show in CS is back

  • @uv6821

    @uv6821

    2 ай бұрын

    I wish there was a show like this for all my competitive interests. But they need to be entertaining/deeply knowledgeable/ and unhinged lol

  • @mauriciobetimpaesleme8702
    @mauriciobetimpaesleme87022 ай бұрын

    5:23 I love Thorin going from "Host and nodding accordingly" to "You are out of your fucking mind" in a split second

  • @caged3249
    @caged32492 ай бұрын

    I was praying Kassad would throw out the "are you insane?" reaction when Thorin made the point about Kassad being a top coach. Woulda been way too funny

  • @qBeYcarpet
    @qBeYcarpet2 ай бұрын

    I remember seeing an hltv thread a few months back saying kassad kicked cypher from bleed because cypher wanted to watch demos and kassad didn't :D really sums up the fan logic

  • @Archiexdxd
    @Archiexdxd2 ай бұрын

    38:18 Thorin thinking GameCube is a modern gaming console hahah

  • @EntrEsprit
    @EntrEsprit2 ай бұрын

    i laughed out loud during the "Niko is still a top-20 player" point, you're right Maui this shouldn't be a hot take, and it's not. Niko's stats in last month or last 3 months still show that he is a top-3, top-4 riffler on LAN against top 10 teams, so you know.. that's like more than enough to be a top-20 player

  • @TonyKalashnikov

    @TonyKalashnikov

    2 ай бұрын

    Prolly recorded before last day of EPL

  • @vangod1

    @vangod1

    2 ай бұрын

    Yea I think he just wanted to use the platform to shit on all the people who have been hate training Niko recently.

  • @HaasTheFirst
    @HaasTheFirst2 ай бұрын

    Looking forward to the next episode of G2 take - point made!

  • @sidneyjanicki1313
    @sidneyjanicki13132 ай бұрын

    Perfectly timed for my lunch break

  • @marcelfunke7261
    @marcelfunke72612 ай бұрын

    I am not even through the first point and I am laughing my ass of. hahaha

  • @josephadcock7449
    @josephadcock74492 ай бұрын

    I love how every show they bring up g2 it’s hilarious

  • @gregorbensa
    @gregorbensa2 ай бұрын

    why is this not in the podcast playlist? now i can't find it in YTM...

  • @Motore
    @Motore2 ай бұрын

    forgot to put in the podcast playlist...

  • @PM1_57
    @PM1_572 ай бұрын

    30:50 his name is actually Martin .. 🤣😂🤣

  • @jeremyjacobs3539
    @jeremyjacobs35392 ай бұрын

    Jame is VP. Rooting for you bro. Jame won a major with outsiders. VP should be extremely loyal to him. But still needs to win now and I think he will

  • @minibeech03
    @minibeech032 ай бұрын

    but VP did win a major, are you on smack? Outsiders, Rio? Electronic even said in his most recent interview that him trying igl was a mistake. So you're definitely smoking something.

  • @vangod1
    @vangod12 ай бұрын

    The idea of a twistzz, naf, malbs, reck, and Cadian Team Liquid sounds like it would be FIRE.

  • @Jah017
    @Jah0172 ай бұрын

    Honestly to me they trying turn Niko into 2021 stockholm Niko where he had to carry by himself, he has monesy now ofc but because of nexa he now has to do way more work and he may be Niko but that’s just overkill

  • @paradoxofgodexisting
    @paradoxofgodexisting2 ай бұрын

    I think Taz is not to blame, using a f1 angle, if the rookie gets offered to drive for Ferrari, he will take it, its the fault of G2 that hired him, im sure he is trying his best. G2 strike me as a vibe team, no other reason to keep Hooxi other than the atmosphere he brings.

  • @singular9
    @singular92 ай бұрын

    We all know maui is a bleed fan. He tried so hard to be rational, but on twitch he loses his mind.

  • @grone1778
    @grone17782 ай бұрын

    Still the best show on KZread

  • @eebro65
    @eebro652 ай бұрын

    I think Kassad's Jame take was the first time I saw Thorin legitimately shocked

  • @dari191
    @dari1912 ай бұрын

    What I have been waiting for. This will be fire

  • @Cheezperson
    @Cheezperson2 ай бұрын

    Banger

  • @volify_
    @volify_2 ай бұрын

    the kassad hot take 😂 the smile on his face. great show guys.

  • @Bojesen03
    @Bojesen032 ай бұрын

    Thorin: stats dont matter use your eyes. Continues to base his entire maj3r take on stats

  • @PS3centere
    @PS3centere2 ай бұрын

    Maui cannot get over the Taz Timeout

  • @TomEagle3
    @TomEagle32 ай бұрын

    I spit out my drink at the stavn back to the future joke 30:39

  • @flopsy707
    @flopsy7072 ай бұрын

    m b v poster on maui's door 😲♥

  • @Mauisnake

    @Mauisnake

    2 ай бұрын

    signed by the band

  • @cd2194
    @cd21942 ай бұрын

    the taz point was almost a copy paste of the last episode maui also brought up taz lmao, great episode

  • @varunnarain50
    @varunnarain502 ай бұрын

    I just hope VP start playing Nuke cause now they have one of the best yard lurkers in the business in Electronic.

  • @swag_cs2
    @swag_cs22 ай бұрын

    Kassad just throwing some wild takes for the hell of it

  • @cowboyevan
    @cowboyevan2 ай бұрын

    they have played a single group stage as this 5.

  • @DavidDeCorso
    @DavidDeCorso2 ай бұрын

    malbs take is based

  • @l3v886
    @l3v8862 ай бұрын

    Lets goooooo

  • @0Adnin
    @0Adnin2 ай бұрын

    WIth all respect to Kassad and the show bleed is putting. I reserve to make any comment about whether bleed is good or not or Kassad is the best coach or not until they make it to Tier 1 LAN. Anything will do, From Blast to ESL. But here is what I do believe in, If any org wants to make their Tier 2 or Tier 3 org into Tier 1.5 Org. I would recommend Kassad as He will bring them from Online Environment to Studio LAN at the very least. I rememeber iNtation was valid till Kassad was there and then immediately fell off when he left.

  • @minibeech03
    @minibeech032 ай бұрын

    malbs will only end up with higher rating then liquid members because their already eliminated and liquid will make playoffs and play more games and potentially harder teams. M80 played nothing but betboom and a struggling g2 and sharks. Not to say he wasnt on fire. But i doubt him being picked up by liquid will happen.

  • @DanRobards
    @DanRobards2 ай бұрын

    Someone please buy kassad a microphone

  • @x.nihilo
    @x.nihilo2 ай бұрын

    Who at G2 came with the brilliant idea to replace JKS with Nexa? Everything went downhill after that.

  • @tech4172
    @tech41722 ай бұрын

    Imo instead of malbd I'd rather Nertz

  • @MusicJunkie37

    @MusicJunkie37

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah nertz is more proven but no doubt he has a higher buy-out

  • @nukemcentral3224

    @nukemcentral3224

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MusicJunkie37 malbs has been cooking and performing great. Nertz played ok recently and he's expensive I'd go malbs and you can tailor him to your playstyle easier bc he's younger

  • @cd2194
    @cd21942 ай бұрын

    pre banger

  • @ThinkAboutVic
    @ThinkAboutVic2 ай бұрын

    the simple argument against the MAJ3R point is that the team looked like a mess when he wasn't there. they tried to have XANTARES, woxic, and even imoRR IGL and it just didn't work in the slightest. MAJ3R might not be to the level of karrigan or gla1ve or whatever, but he's the best Turkish IGL around, and it's not particularly close. (and yeah XANTARES is carrying EF, but shoutouts to Calyx for taking the bitch roles and still being able to show off his mechanics, his 1v4 against FaZe on Overpass in the RMR was something else)

  • @ims0ul
    @ims0ul2 ай бұрын

    nexa and huNter out for blameF and Buzz

  • @chef-b3337
    @chef-b33372 ай бұрын

    After the 2021 Stockholm final NiKo said, "There will be more chances,'" regarding winning a major. Since then he's progressively been on a downtrend in form and both Karrigan and AleksiB have won their own majors. It's been 3 years, he's not prime NiKo anymore. If he really wasn't corrosive to his teams then how do you justify the last 3 years?

  • @zettour.

    @zettour.

    2 ай бұрын

    Well, for Antwerp, they got unlucky in Legends and had to face NAVI and Heroic. Overtime losses to both in a BO1. Came down to a BO3 against a comfortable Furia that basically went to regulation every map. After that was a HooXi masterclass.

  • @chef-b3337

    @chef-b3337

    2 ай бұрын

    @zettour. Valid point for Antwerp, but they still lost to Furia with ArT in a Bo3. I don't buy the HooXi hate at all because G2 only gave AleksiB like 6 or 7 months before kicking him out, and they kept JackZ instead of Amanek. You know the players had to have weighed in on this. Same deal with Karrigan in old faze. Either A) NiKo chose to get HooXi over the current major champion and before that he chose to keep JackZ (who suckZ). Or B) NiKo was completely passive and did not say a word about any roster changes that have been done on any of his teams. A player of his caliber cannot be ignored. Either way, he's a fool for talking or for not speaking up, and his individual form has degraded. I just don't agree with him being top 10 and I hate how there's always a scapegoat for why he doesnt have a major. He's not cursed, he's blessed with talent.

  • @zettour.

    @zettour.

    2 ай бұрын

    @@chef-b3337 Eh, it was really close and this was sort of honeymoon Furia after they dropped VINI and just had a Top 4 run at EPL by destroying their group consisting of FaZe, ENCE with Spinx, Vitality, and Outsiders with YEKINDAR. Furia didn't truly become frauds till after Rio. Keeping JACKZ was on huNter actually not NiKo. He obviously should've spoke up, but also he didn't actually make the decision. Same with -AleksiB which was XTQZZZ being a moron and trying to sabotage G2. Like AleksiB said though, NiKo just didn't speak up. Probably due to how the community flamed him for -karrigan despite it being essentially a teamwide decision. Maybe it's because I don't blame him for 2021-2024 even a tenth as much as I blame him for 2017. NiKo and karrigan straight up failed that FaZe lineup. You couldn't find an excuse for that whereas you can find extenuating circumstances from Stockholm onward.

  • @3xceIIent

    @3xceIIent

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zettour. "you can find extenuating circumstances from Stockholm onward" We shall call it Stockholm Syndrome.

  • @lukasmika8497
    @lukasmika84972 ай бұрын

    Gamecube :D

  • @acefromspace4376
    @acefromspace43762 ай бұрын

    VP will win next major

  • @theodorebagwell420
    @theodorebagwell4202 ай бұрын

    -TaZ +sAw

  • @zertbrown4642
    @zertbrown46422 ай бұрын

    kassad cooked too much

  • @SmokeyCS
    @SmokeyCS2 ай бұрын

    G2 + s1mple -nexa

  • @radrussian3289
    @radrussian32892 ай бұрын

    monesy never won hooxi a tournament

  • @conormcfire
    @conormcfire2 ай бұрын

    Its not Zywoo, he's said that he has nothing against the player. Its the idiot fans he hates

  • @iamsadlmao4415
    @iamsadlmao44152 ай бұрын

    Kassads take is wild :D

  • @stayhome4626
    @stayhome46262 ай бұрын

    24:00 Who's the moron saying NiKo isn't top 20 ? Even If G2 doesn't win any events this year NiKo will be top 20 .

  • @stayhome4626
    @stayhome46262 ай бұрын

    Turkish super team = best players from turkey = Still worse than any top 30 player in Europe (except for Xantares) . Thorin "EF is a super team" Also Thorin "3 players below 1.0 rating" (which is a wrong stat by the way go check it out) Maj3r is a good IGL , he has an average support player in Calyx and two inconsistent awper and entry in Woxic and Wicadia , Xantares is just good and not great bcuz he drops off massively in playoffs which is where it matters the most . He made it to a Major playoffs this year with this team and that's a Huge achievement since the 7 other teams all have better players . So EF plays better as a team than the sum of its individual players' abilities , and that's exactly why the analysts at the desk gave him *deserved* credit . He is not a world class IGL bcuz he never won anything .

  • @cm386464
    @cm3864642 ай бұрын

    Kassad.. you are insane 😅 but it's a real hot take 😬🤙 I'm 36 orange man, you're glazing! 😅😂 What an episode 😂 Clap

  • @tech4172
    @tech41722 ай бұрын

    Maui 😂😂 acting like fanatic and saw are great teams, anythinghe says no one takes serious becausehe has no idea wtf hes talking about. I'll say it again VP have always been overrated, they are a team that holds the line for tier 1 entry line. They will Never win anything worth it with this style

  • @rare8567
    @rare85672 ай бұрын

    KASSAD is the best coach in cs rn, name a team thats blossomed like Bleed i cant wait to see them in better events!

  • @se3000
    @se30002 ай бұрын

    How about Kassad will be fired if Bleed don't attend anything better than B-tier events soon?

  • @Kimix003

    @Kimix003

    2 ай бұрын

    Are you even watching his team?

  • @navox933

    @navox933

    2 ай бұрын

    Let’s remind you to watch the first 10 seconds of the show: ITS HOTTAKES

  • @mylesstevens4367

    @mylesstevens4367

    2 ай бұрын

    Bro it's a tier 2 team and they're clearing all the other tier 2 teams they meet. What more do you want from him?

  • @minibeech03
    @minibeech032 ай бұрын

    niko is mentally weak, and until he starts maturing and stops tilting he'll slowly drop out of top 20.

  • @singular9
    @singular92 ай бұрын

    Hot take: Hooxi to analyst instead of Swani who left. Hunter as IGL Bring back JKS

  • @myrinam

    @myrinam

    2 ай бұрын

    .........

  • @zettour.

    @zettour.

    2 ай бұрын

    Cold take, obvious route for non-delusional G2 stans. Though, I feel like HooXi assistant coach and paired with an actual analyst might be better. He can be vibes man and be happy.

  • @d.cirovic1695

    @d.cirovic1695

    2 ай бұрын

    Heavygod instead of jks

  • @marrchy2682
    @marrchy26822 ай бұрын

    kassad is right they will cut jame and they will get booma4. as a new igl/awp and fame will be cut for ax1le and fl1t for perfecto. maybe they even get hobb1t norbert after the overpass mega nerf.

  • @dylanc9173

    @dylanc9173

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah and cloud 9 should pick up Jame, fl1t, fame, and Norbert 😅

  • @burnout2
    @burnout22 ай бұрын

    Hot take: m0nesy will never be top 1 on HLTV, in his entire career (donk sweep)

  • @adityapathania1098
    @adityapathania10982 ай бұрын

    Zywoo living rent free in Thorin's head. He might not have any cultural impact, but even the e-sports historian, is obsessed with him. Good job Zywoo.

  • @miguelprazeres6523
    @miguelprazeres65232 ай бұрын

    456 views in 15 min, fell off

  • @XXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDXXXDDDDDDDDD
    @XXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDXXXDDDDDDDDD2 ай бұрын

    ookk first point is good :D

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