Finally someone to explain one of the coolest pieces of rail maintaining equipment and I can only hear half of what he says 😆

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry you had hard time hearing. The machine is rather noisy, can't help that. I always wear ear plugs while running it. I do have several other tamper vids where the engine is not as loud if you would care to watch any of those. Thank you for watching

Good filming position and excellent commentary thoroughly enjoyed it, wish I was there!!! thank you Dave Sunday mornings don't get much better than this ❤️👌👍👍 Happy Easter

@ccrx6700

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jason for the very nice comment and for watching my friend.

@jonathanhasnip3700

2 жыл бұрын

@@ccrx6700 your very welcome Dave

Computers have really saved the day..When I first started my operator run a mark 3 . He used to have to manually plot the track ...protractor and graph paper ....

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

I never learned to do that by hand, computer spoiled me, always wished there had been someone come around that could have taught me that

Very sophisticated! Wonderful instrumentation!

@ccrx6700

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much my friend for the very nice comment. We really appreciate your visiting with us today and taking in the home movie Laurence.

Dave you explain everything in such great detail making the videos so enjoyable to watch.

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Russell, appreciate hearing that sir

You are a great teacher, you explain things to where people understand things better.

@ccrx6700

2 жыл бұрын

Well thank you very much Rick, do appreciate the very kind words my friend.

Glad you done this video. I have been curious, as an old Tamper technician, to see how the liner works. The early Tamper machines, around the seventies, had a similar plot method expect it was all analogue. In plot, the shadowboard would motor in and out and "hunt" the infrared beam. A drive cable from the shadowboard drive would then drive a stylus on a moving graph paper on the graph table. The resulting graph would be similar to yours with spiral in and spiral out and circular clearly defined. The big difference was that the operator had to then overlay a thin black tape over the plot, similar to your computer-generated blue line. Then at the starting point and in Line function, a photocell would follow the plot and in turn, set the shadowboard where it needs to be at every sleeper. very similar but more labour intensive and dependent on the operator skill. I much prefer your system.

@ccrx6700

7 ай бұрын

That is very interesting to learn that ripkirby. I will agree with you those guys were operators back then and also I prefer this method myself....:-) Really appreciate your taking the time to write in and share that and for checking out the plotting a curve video my friend.

Wow that light to measure the curves so simple and so ingenious I love it

@ccrx6700

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you very much for watching some beach.

I always loved the way a Jackson plots curves. My early yrs.. I ran a Canron Electromatic with a extra 10ft. long beam. AT&SF always ordered their Electromatic's with the long beam. And as you know... Torsion Beam tampers... we had to make our own charts with graph paper... our stations usually were 40ft. Anyways... I was sure happy to do curves with a Jackson. And with the Plassers.. all you do is put down the curve buggy... which was under the main frame... then super elevation was done more with a tie count kind of thing. I didn't run Plassers too much... now these days I find myself a little like Joe Biden... not remembering exactly... LOL. Anyways.... good video !

@ccrx6700

2 жыл бұрын

Great, love to hear an old tamper guy talk, we would talk for days if we could ever get together. Never been around a Plasser and only did a walk around a Mark 4, never saw it in action either. We use the old QNX Windows version 6.10, it's functional and better than the old DOS system we used to have but it's 17 years old too. Sure would like to have an upgrade to Jupiter 2, but not holding my breathe.

Very detail content. This inspire me of wanting to joun the railway party!

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Andy, you're welcome to join our party anytime

Very cool! Always see this on MOW gangs and was always curious about the lights. Pretty neat

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

David, i have several more vids on the tamper, gonna do 1 in the future where i can explain better how the light reference systems work, glad you enjoyed watching, thank you

Always interesting!

@ccrx6700

Жыл бұрын

Very glad you enjoyed Wolf Man. We certainly do appreciate your visiting with us and helping to plot a curve. May you have a most blessed day my friend.

I am a track foreman for a major RR. I been around jacksons, mark 4's but I am very partial to the Plasser . I Like the wire and cords over the light system. Used to have an 07 switch tamper now we run 09 cat tampers both 16 and 32 tool for production tamper.

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! What RR are you with? I've never been around marks or plassers, do have a friend who runs a mark 4 so know a bit bout them from what he's told me

@masskhysteria3311

3 жыл бұрын

@@ccrx6700 I m curious as to what computer program you use. our plasser runs an Aggy prograM while the mark 4 run a jupiter program...The tamper on ouR gang is all Analog while the 2 newer run a PLC. We also have a Kershaw 950 ballast regulator....We use to run a seperate track dynamic stabilizer but our cat tamper has one all ready . spot tamping and out of face surfacing require a first train restriction of 30 then good for normal speed as long track has been stabilized.

Fascinating detail and instruction session here.....always curios how these specialised pieces of equipment operate! You make a good Elmer for people to learn from and follow

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alex, glad you enjoyed. On my channel check out the playlist for more tamper vids if you would care to sometime watch them

@alexmodern6667

3 жыл бұрын

@@ccrx6700 Will do Sir....Thanks

my wife🐝 loves trains, our children and me too, we are happy to know you sir!

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

David, thats neat, take the whole family rail fanning, a great family outing 👍

Love your videos, please more on MOW ! I started in 1993 at age 27 as a labour and in 2002 was recommended for road master. Ran all track equipment except tamper and regulator also ran off track equipment. Hell I even ran a 1950' a speed swing on high rail.

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Michael and congratulations on your promotion! We rented a Petti Bone one time, what an ancient thing that was, I called it a dinosaur, but it did the job and was totally hot that week with no AC in it....Ugh, PS: be careful with 4 letter words, Utube usually doesn't even let them get posted (family friendly channel here), but they let yours get thru

Lot of information.

@ccrx6700

Ай бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day.

What an extraordinary piece of kit! Can I play with it?

Great. Menh

@ccrx6700

8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much Richard, glad you enjoyed this one. Not something that a whole lot of folks ever get to see being done. Very grateful my friend for your taking the time to visit with us and check out the video.

I love figuring out curves, tangent to spirals spirals to curve, elev. speeds I am curious do you use an underbalance

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

Yes sir, 1 1/2 thats what my super chart has built into it. Really thank you for writing in, I don't have hardly ever anyone come around to talk tamping with

So i just watched your second most recent video a few days ago about the Jackson 6700 and now the youtube gods have sent me back in time to here. Just one question. The tennis ball. I don’t think it’s moved in a year :)

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

Lol... my back gets tightened up, so sitting on the ball helps relieve muscles, use it a lot! Although it not priginal Jackson parts... LOL 😉

@FreezerBurn.

3 жыл бұрын

@@ccrx6700 i feel your pain. As a big rig trucker i HAVE to have a heating pad on my back whenever i drive. Whether 10 mins or 10 hrs i have to have it on! I shall assume that there is no cigarette lighter outlet in your machine. If there was you could get a tiny adapter to plug in a heating pad. Makes me feel like I’m 40 again. 😁

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

@@FreezerBurn. thats a great idea, yep no cig lighter in tamper tho. I use tennis ball when im driving hi rail truck too, cig lighter doesnt work in it either 😭

Interesting

@ccrx6700

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate your watching the video Daniel.

What’s the best way to get a hold of you? I have a couple of questions I hope u can answer for me about the Jackson

@ccrx-xu1wc

3 жыл бұрын

TJ, sorry I apologize, just now found your comment, i'm sorry, utube does not always send me comments, Try again my friend, would be happy to assist you

Great video again, we had a 6700 but I never worked it, I worked on Plassers mostly solved many a curve we never used the automatic solve ( the Plasser people thought we where nuts lol). Our engineering department wanted our spirals to match in length . Is your railroad a mine to plant operation without a physical connection to other railroads ? Just wondering

@ccrx6700

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you David, really enjoyed the comment! Have never been around Plassers or Mark IV's, just this old relic and another 6700 short cab that was a dinosaur....LOL Curves on my computer are auto solved always but I usually adjust the transition points to get fairly equal throws. I like that idea of spirals the same length, that makes sense to me, but we got so many curves here that would take a good bit of work to make that happen. But I will remember that for future reference and thank you so much for telling me that. We do not interchange with anyone alas.... mine to a harbor barge 'loading facility. we have 16.8 miles track, plus some sidings

@davidfoubert1493

2 жыл бұрын

@@ccrx6700 thanks for replying , really enjoy you videos your railroad is lucky to have someone with so much knowledge of a large part of the operation of how a railroad should run .

@ccrx6700

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidfoubert1493 gosh, what a nice compliment, thank you 😊

I thought about temperature change effect on the rail, & was going to ask about it... then you mentioned 50° being rail neutral temp. So do you have to adjust your tampering for colder or hotter conditions? What about rain?

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

David, yes I do adjust in a manner of speaking. Once rail temps get around 90 or above I won't line track. When really hot and the tamper is moving it from side to side it can get like a rubber band in a manner of speaking and go haywire on me. Also at temps below freezing I don't tamp cause the ballast freezes so the tools won't penetrate and ballast can get frozen to the ties, this can create a situation where the tamper will lift the rail and the ties will stay frozen in place, thus pulling spikes. Very good question sir!

@davidg5369

3 жыл бұрын

Right, it seems reasonable.

@masskhysteria3311

3 жыл бұрын

@@ccrx6700 And even if the ballast is good and not frozen you could break a rail at very low temps. Now on jointed rail the neutral temp is 50°?I know our neutral temp is between 95°and115° for CWR.

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

@@masskhysteria3311 yep, been tamping 18 years and have broken 7 rails. Sounds like a shotgun going off when they break. Those were mostly caused by internal defects. When rail temps get below 25 i wont tamp unless it an emergency and always leery about doing it. We figure here RNT be between 50 and 70

@masskhysteria3311

3 жыл бұрын

@@ccrx6700 Is most of your tack stick rail? I did see you had a weld or 2 though.

But what are you doing and why?

Just wondering why you have a tennis ball in your cab???🤔

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

Ha Ha Steve, very good observation!! My leg muscles in the back of legs get tight and sitting on a tennis ball helps to relive the tighness, a medical doctor told me to do that a long time ago. Gonna have to explain that in a future tamper vid! Thanks for watching

@stevedrake2031

3 жыл бұрын

@@ccrx6700 I thought maybe it was to distract a wayward dog or arthritis squeeze ball.😑

What system is in that?

@ccrx6700

2 жыл бұрын

QNX Windows it's about 15 years old now

@animalou812

2 жыл бұрын

@@ccrx6700 have you ever heard of Jackson 7 system? Thats what I'm told is in this one I'm getting.

@ccrx6700

2 жыл бұрын

@@animalou812 No sir I haven't. I can't remember what system we had in there before the QNX, that was over 15 years ago. It was an old DOS based computer, I hope you don't get that! But having the word Jackson in it ..... sounds pretty old. Let me know when you find out please!

@animalou812

2 жыл бұрын

@@ccrx6700 I will. The mark 3 and 4s that I ran had the jupiter systems

Jupiter 1 system?

@ccrx6700

Жыл бұрын

Nope, it's an old Windows QNX system Adelaide. Was put in about 17 years ago. Maybe someday I can hope for a Jupiter 2 upgrade, keep your fingers crossed. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch. Quite interesting to me that you would be interested in a tamper video after I viewed your channel and that you would even know what a Jupiter operating system is. You really got me curious.

@adelaideonthemic

Жыл бұрын

@@ccrx6700 where you located?

@ccrx6700

Жыл бұрын

@@adelaideonthemic kirby Pa. Hour south of pittsburgh

@adelaideonthemic

Жыл бұрын

@@ccrx6700 my husband owns a railroad company and was wondering about having you come training on a 6700. 😊

@ccrx6700

Жыл бұрын

@@adelaideonthemic interesting. Have him get in touch with me. Here my email. Peppypetsdaily@yahoo.com

so before computers, was this all done by hand with surveying equipment?

@ccrx6700

3 жыл бұрын

Tamper operators would plot out the curve using graph paper, I never learned to do that, I learned with a tamper that had a computer. Original track building as you say was done with surveying equipment yes sir. Thank you for watching

What is he talking about and please use layman terms lol