As a Finn, this song makes me very emotional every time I hear this. So beautiful song, and lyrics!

@peterarmoton2685

3 ай бұрын

totta.

@soozb15

3 ай бұрын

I get emotional too, and I'm not even a Finn 😊. That performance is fantastic.

@ismopietilainen6480

3 ай бұрын

Got tears in my eyes... :)

@eerohorila1109

3 ай бұрын

Yeah. I dont want to dis Runeberg and Pacius, but this should be our 🇫🇮 national anthem. I'd vote for it.

@nahkanukke

3 ай бұрын

Totta. I was born in Sverige but finn. But back in Finland and two kids. THis is a strong composition from Sibelius. I love it. Respect

Every time in the singing part I get full-body goosebumps and tear up a little. Sometimes even cry uncontrollably, depending on what kind of mindset I am in. Hard to describe the proud and patriotic feeling it creates. It makes me somehow feel connected to the ancestors that fought for independent Finland, and feel forever grateful for what they went through.

@dmariachi

3 ай бұрын

Same. Every time I hear Finlandia it’s like ”Oh shit, here we go again to emotional rollercoaster”

The Finlandia Hymn is one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever!

"Finland, behold, thy daylight now is dawning, the threat of night has now been driven away. The skylark calls across the light of morning, the blue of heaven lets it have its sound, and now the day the powers of night is scorning: thy daylight dawns, O Finland of ours! Finland, arise, and raise towards the highest thy head now crowned with mighty memory. Finland, arise, for to the world thou criest that thou hast thrown off thy slavery, beneath oppression's yoke thou never liest. Thy morning's come, O Finland of ours!"

@mhh7544

3 ай бұрын

Perfect

It describes the history of the Finnish nation since 1809 to the beginning of 1900. This is so emotional to Finns that even big grown men may start crying when hearing this. They know what it is about. Jean Sibelius is considered as one of the best composers of all times

Answer to your question about the intention of this song: To support the Finnish nationalism while Finland was still occupied by Tsarist Russia befor the first world war

@MrZnarffy

3 ай бұрын

Yeah.. And he was Swedish speaking. Which they often neglect to teach due to his connection to Finnish nationalism.... :P

@Vanhapjuuma

3 ай бұрын

​@@MrZnarffy Do they really? A bit of an exaggeration I'd say, to this day I haven't read a book that doesn't mention the connection between Fennomans and most of their first language that was Swedish. This doesn't mean that the Swedish speaking Fennomans weren't heavily invested in preferring Finnish over Swedish in Finland. In addition, many of the Swedish-speakers changed their name to a (more or less equivalent) Finnish one, e.g. Georg Zacharias Forsman to Yrjö Koskinen (later Yrjö Sakari Yrjö-Koskinen). Even though they were speaking Swedish they were pro-Finnish all along.

@anttivirolainen8223

3 ай бұрын

@@MrZnarffy Just so you know, Swedish language and Finnish nationalistic sentiment are not at odds with each other. Finnish and Swedish are both official languages in Finland. During Sibelius's youth, Swedish was the language of the educated elite, as Finnish-language schooling was basically not available in Finland until then. Finnish was the language of the peasants during that time. In fact, Sibelius attended Finland's first Finnish-language upper secondary school (or its equivalent). Most of the representatives of the educated elite who experienced the nationalist awakening in the 19th century were Swedish-speaking. The promotion of the Finnish language began only towards the end of the 19th century (as a means of distinguishing Finland from both Sweden and Russia), and many who previously spoke Swedish switched their language and surnames from Swedish to Finnish in the early 20th century.

@MrZnarffy

3 ай бұрын

@@anttivirolainen8223 Russia disallowed the use of Swedish officially, but allowed Finnish as well as Russian in Russia controlled Finland. It was to deliberately remove the Swedish influence to prevent it from returning to Sweden. And you cannot disagree that Swedish today is a minority in Finland, even though it "should" be equal. How many Finns could refuse using Finnish over there when dealing with every day life, compared to how many refuse Swedish. I'm Swedish, but part of my heritage is from Finland. I have also several ancestors who fought over there against Russia. But if I go there and speak Swedish, people refuse to even try speak Swedish back. I feel dissappointed and sad over that...

@anttivirolainen8223

3 ай бұрын

@@MrZnarffy Yes, nowadays Swedish is undeniably a minority language in Finland. Unfortunately, many Finnish speakers don't master Swedish properly, even though it's taught in schools. They don't master it because they practically don't need it, and language skills aren't maintained. However, during Sibelius's time, Swedish was anything but a minority language. The majority of the urban population spoke Swedish in the late 19th century, while Finnish was spoken in rural areas. Before the rise of Finnish nationalism and efforts to promote the Finnish language in education and administration, Swedish was the dominant language among the educated classes and in official contexts in Finland. Especially during Sibelius's era, speaking Swedish in Finland indicated social background rather than ethnic background.

Purpose of this piece of music in Finnish patriotims and Finlands independence.

@mauronicolo89

3 ай бұрын

Thanks !

@Cypher77

3 ай бұрын

@@mauronicolo89 Also my home town Kuopio in ice-hockey games Sakari Kuosmanen sings Finlandia! Usually playoffs or season opener! There are lyric video of the Finlandia translated in english. There are also now and then talk about changing Finlands national anthem to Finlandia, but at least for now it's all talk. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mIWOxrdtmMjFY8Y.html

@Kuutti_original

3 ай бұрын

​@@mauronicolo89 Also this hymn/score is played as a final farewell to every war veteran of ours in their funeral.

The unofficial national anthem of our beloved Finland. Brings tears to my eyes every time.

As a finn this song makes me extremely emotional, and when the singing part starts, my body kind of sparks continuosly through out singing.

Great performance, almost got in tears here (I'm finnish). Love the powerful lyrics also. Many people think this should be our national anthem instead of Maamme. Thank you for your comments!

Finlandia, Op. 26, is a tone poem by the Finnish composer Jean Sibelius. It was written in 1899 and revised in 1900. The piece was composed for the Press Celebrations of 1899, a covert protest against increasing censorship from the Russian Empire, and was the last of seven pieces performed as an accompaniment to a tableau depicting episodes from Finnish history. Most of the piece is taken up with rousing and turbulent music, evoking the national struggle of the Finnish people. Towards the end, a calm comes over the orchestra, and the serene and melodic Finlandia Hymn is heard. Often incorrectly cited as a traditional folk melody, the Hymn section is of Sibelius' own creation. Sibelius later reworked the Finlandia Hymn into a stand-alone piece. This hymn, with words written in 1941 by Veikko Antero Koskenniemi, is one of the most important national songs of Finland. It has been repeatedly suggested to be the official national anthem of Finland. Today, during modern performances of the full-length Finlandia, a choir is sometimes involved, singing the Finnish lyrics with the hymn section. Lyrics translated in English: Finland, behold, thy daylight now is dawning, the threat of night has now been driven away. The skylark calls across the light of morning, the blue of heaven lets it have its way, and now the day the powers of night is scorning: thy daylight dawns, O Finland of ours! Finland, arise, and raise towards the highest thy head now crowned with mighty memory. Finland, arise, for to the world thou criest that thou hast thrown off thy slavery, beneath oppression´s yoke thou never liest. Thy morning´s come, O Finland of ours

@mauronicolo89

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the explanation and the historical context! Really appreciate it

@lembnic

3 ай бұрын

@@mauronicolo89 No problem, Wikipedia helped me! 😅

@penaarja

3 ай бұрын

Like this translation abd hisrory of this. ❤️🇫🇮

@mauronicolo89

3 ай бұрын

​@@lembnicthank the Mrs for me

When I first travelled to Finland around 2001 My Finnish friends were amazed that I had heard of Sibelius but had also heard his seven symphonies. In Britain where I was brought up going to the classical concerts at the Town Hall I heard Beethoven, Brahms and Sibelius symphonies regularly. The next major piece that Sibelius wrote was his second symphony which he wrote when he was in Rapallo in Liguria, Italy Though the soundscape of the symphony does sound more Finland than Italy. Here is a video of the first movement: kzread.info/dash/bejne/c2Zst8SDiJe_ppM.html (about ten minutes long so might be something you can review) When I was there I learnt a little Finnish and a bio-pic of Sibelius came out in Finnish when I was there and it has a scene where the first performance of the Finlandia Suite was performed. It was a time of Tsarist Russian suppression of non-Russian cultures and this was a musical protest against this. Finlandia is to the Finns much like Verdi's "Va Pensiero" from Nabucco was a song for the Risorgimento in 19th century Italy.

Other Finns have commented already, but I'll join them in saying that for Finns, this symphony tells the story of Finns. From being oppressed and attacked continuously by the eastern neighbour to overcoming it. The hymn part of this song describes the swan-song of Finland conquering the struggles of the past and is given its right to exist proudly. "The darkness has passed and the light of the day has come. Your time has come, oh birthland. Rise up Finland, you showed the world how you banished slavery and didn't give in to tyranny. Your morning has began, birth land." Our de facto national anthem is something we listen and sing during sporting events and whenever Finland is being represented somewhere. This is the one we listen when the occasion truly deserves it. As I listen to this, I couldn't help myself from being tear-eyed. This hits hard. You might be familiar how Finland was attached by the USSR during the WWII. That wasn't unique event, Russia has attacked and enslaved Finns for hundreds of years. Thank you for watching this!

@Gittas-tube

2 ай бұрын

👩🏼‍🌾🇫🇮🎼 "Russia has attacked and enslaved Finns for hundreds of years." Let's stick to the facts: Sweden and Russia (first Novgorod) have fought each other for control of the southern and eastern parts of what is Finland today for centuries, that is true. Finland, as a country of its own, has only fought against Russia (Soviet Union) in the Winter War and the Continuation War. And Finland has NEVER been ENSLAVED by Russia. Russia had serfs, but that system was never imparted in Finland. See info on Finland as an autonomous Grand Duchy of Czarist Russia.

I ❤ Sibelius, and this one of my favorite pieces!

Finally you found that! 💪💪💪Thank You.

Finn, this song makes me very emotional every time I hear this. So beautiful song, and lyrics!

Thank you again for your reaction!

Wow, classical music reaction videos? I never expected that.

We have a lot of disagreements in politics in Finland. Whenever I hear this song I forget all of it for a minute.

@Kerppu68

3 ай бұрын

Not for 10 minutes?

@puhistagram

14 күн бұрын

I must disagree with you about lot of disagreements in politics, sir. We might have emotional minorities loudly disagreeing with something but majority have quite mutual understanding of values and directions we are heading. I think Finland is one of the most stable countries in the west at the moment.

@mlg_iesus8898

14 күн бұрын

@@puhistagram Fair enough. Social media makes it look more civil war than it actually is.

@puhistagram

14 күн бұрын

@@mlg_iesus8898 I agree

What they are singing about: freedom of finnish people. We have a very blody and sad history. So they are singing about that.

I get literal chills everytime I listen this piece of art.

This is the national anthem if someone would ask Finnish people.

@k85

3 ай бұрын

Too awesome. Other nations would be shamed. It would not be polite.

@jussikemppainen7904

3 ай бұрын

This should be our national anthem for sure. Hello from finland ❤

I'm a Finn and this song always gives me the goosebumps.

It is good! Another orchestral masterpiece by Sibelius is the fourth movement (Finale) from 2nd Symphony!

Lovely reaction, Mauro! Thank you so much for being open to different genres of music. I think you would like a piece called The Moldau. It’s another composition that expresses national pride, but this time the idea is to illustrate scenes from Czech life, as a river (the Moldau) flows from its source to the sea. It's by a composer called Smetana, and the whole thing is called Ma Vlast (my country).

@martiglesias60

3 ай бұрын

When that country did not exist at that time. Bohemia exist before and it was not the same.

I can racommend some good Finnish powermetal for children. It is something that adults can enjoy as well. Band is called Hevisaurus and couple songs are Räyh and Liskodisko. If you enjoy of their music I recommend album called Kadonneen louhikäärmeen arvoitus. Thank you for this video.

made me cry, again... this has super patriotic meaning to me. how our grandparents sacrificed themselves for our independency... i think that every time and i hear this song as a story. the start is super sad, like russia starting the attack, and then there's parts where i think Finland was too strong. hard for me to describe. i listen to this every 6th of december and cry like a child lol.

It´s about the war, the stuff we had to go through, and the the new beginning, being very loving to our grand parents and lakes and everything they did it for us. Freedom.

@fillerbunny

3 ай бұрын

Which war?

I think Finlandia describes pretty accurate the process for Finland getting it's independency with emotional level through music. At first the depressed sense something game changing is in the air and we have to get prepared for even worse than current oppression. It's like facing the fact you are totally screwed up but then comes some hope and self dignity gets arisen. Self doubts. Successing with attempting to hold yourself together. Ups and downs are happening. But at the end you achieved something you never could had imagined at first without being persistent. It makes you humble and proud of yourself. You got freedom!

in the beginning it can be felt when war threatens, then war and finally when Finland is forced to rebuild from the ashes again, oh Finland you banished slavery and did not bend under oppression, the day has come, look up. Finlandia is my favorite song

The hymn has taken many forms: "Be still, my soul Hymn (Finlandia) - St Paul's Cathedral". Sibelius composed pieces for various occasions. E.g. pieces inspired by Finland's national epic, which just few days ago was awarded the European Commission's European Heritage Label: "Sibelius : The Swan of Tuonela - Karajan". Here's one of his Christmas songs: "Beautiful Christmas piano music from Finland - J. Sibelius - En etsi valtaa, loistoa | Adam Herd". Here's some talk about him: "Sibelius's Roots: An Interview with Pekka Kuusisto & Ilona Korhonen (Philharmonia Orchestra)". Speaking of Classical and Opera, here's a Finnish Opera Diva Karita Mattila: "Tosca: "Vissi d'arte" -- Karita Mattila (Met Opera)". And an opera festival in Savonlinna: "Savonlinna Opera Festival - World class opera inside the walls of ancient castle Olavinlinna." and "Haastattelussa sopraano Lisette Oropesa / Interview with soprano Lisette Oropesa". Music education is on a quite high level in Finland for the country's size, so Finland is quite big in the Classical music scene. Also in Folk music scene. And choir singing is popular. Couple of A cappella groups: "Rajaton - Butterfly (live)" and "Club For Five - Brothers In Arms". Here's couple of Finnish Classical music names: "Pekka Kuusisto’s hilarious Proms encore - My Darling Is Beautiful", "Reconnaissance - Kaija Saariaho / Aleksi Barrière", "GRAMMY 2024 FOR UUSINTA ENSEMBLE, THE HELSINKI CHAMBER CHOIR AND CONDUCTOR NILS SCHWECKENDIEK", "The Polar Music Prize 2024 is awarded to Esa-Pekka Salonen " and "Esa-Pekka Salonen on Italian and French Masterpieces". Relating to Folk music, Kaustinen's violin playing is included in the UNESCO*s National Inventory of Living Heritage: "Kaustislainen viulunsoitto - UNESCO-hakemusvideo / Kaustinen Fiddle Playing UNESCO nomination video".

@mauronicolo89

3 ай бұрын

Wow, we should create a playlist with all those musical pieces!

@tomi_9212

3 ай бұрын

It is also song in Welsh. Gweddi Dros Gymru (Prayer for Wales)

Thank responding To this.

Hello, Mauro! The conductor is Jukka-Pekka Saraste, one of Finland's much sought after conductors. Esa-Pekka Salonen is another, perhaps best known internationally. It really was a pity that you didn't know anything about the Finlandia. Jean Sibelius, a contemporary and friend of my paternal grandfather and his brothers, and a Finland-Swede like they were, is Finland's national composer. His symphonies and violin concerto are excellent. In most of Sibelius' work you can hear and recognize the nature of Finland and its many moods. The Finlandia was written at the time when many countries in Europe (latter part of the 1800s and beginning of the 1900s) wanted to have their own freedom and be a united nation. It was the time of Garibaldi in Italy, for instance. Since early into the 1800s, Finland had been an autonomous Grand Duchy of the Russian Czars with its previous Swedish laws more or less intact. (Sweden lost its eastern part - Finland - to Russia in a war.) Finland was not an integral part of Russia, but enjoyed freedoms that were way more liberal than those of other parts of the vast Russian empire. However, depending on which czar was in power, there were repressions and russifications. The rise of the national state idea all over Europe reached Finland as well. The theme of Finlandia depicts in music the yearning of the people to become free and to be a nation among nations. The somber mood in the beginning of the music reflects the oppression during the russification periods that the Finns endured. Then, the music sounds as if some change is coming. And, after that the choir sings about all this and of the trust and hope, of the belief that one day Finland will throw off its chains and be free. So you see, Mauro, why this work by Jean Sibelius was, and still is, our most important piece of music. Many Finns would like to have the Finlandia as our national anthem, but it was composed for a very specific purpose and describes a very special time in our history, so it cannot really be used as an anthem, which should be more general. The Finlandia, which originally had no lyrics, can also be viewed as describing a dark and stormy winter, the onset of spring, with ice breaking up and the snow melting away, when rivers and brooks are gushing and overflowing. Then comes early summer, the lark is singing and the future looks bright for the land. If I remember correctly, this theme describing the coming of spring was meant to disguise the real meaning of the music, which was obvious to every Finn. Now that you know about the background of the Finlandia, please listen to it once more and it will give you a much richer experience. If you can get hold of a good translation of the lyrics, even better! P.S. A Finland-Swede - or Swedish-speaking Finlander - is a person whose ancestors moved to Finland some time during the approximately 600 to 700 years, when what is Finland today was an integral part, or the eastern half of the Kingdom of Sweden. The inhabitants of the Åland Islands have always been Swedish-speakers, by the way. There are also people from Denmark, Germany, Belgium, Scotland, the Netherlands and other countries that settled in Finland, and many of these adopted Swedish as their language. Their names were, for instance, Fazer, Seeck, Ramsay, Finlayson, Leineck, Sinebrychoff, Schauman, Reuter, Hartwall, Aminoff, de la Chapelle, and Casagrande!

I 😢 every time here finlandia..

We visited in Garda-lake northern Italy 20 years ago.. There was a amusement park and i always remember. We wear here and before they open the gate they played Italian anthem.

@mauronicolo89

3 ай бұрын

Gardaland , many good memories there growing up 😊

@Lumperi65

3 ай бұрын

@@mauronicolo89 Se on Gardaland ! It was Gardaland. now i remember

@gamerbear84

3 ай бұрын

@@mauronicolo89 Yooo, I remember going to Gardaland! Think it would've been the really late 90s for me.

@mauronicolo89

3 ай бұрын

@@gamerbear84 it was the best time right, that's when i always would go with summer school 😆

Helsinki Music hall (Musiikkitalo in finnish) is best place to enjoy music (any kind of)

Thank you Mauro❤ Finlandia❤

Finlandia tune is also used in Gweddi Dros Gymru (Prayer for Wales) Be still my soul.

@Makemot

3 ай бұрын

That's true. Actually the lyrics of Be Still My Soul were arranged to Finlandia before Koskenniemi made his lyrics for Finlandia. So the tune was sung outside Finland first. Sibelius himself considered the work as instrumental only, but did not mind If someone wanted to sing it.

❤❤❤Upeeta

I am a Finnish person but my mothers father was on his mothers side from Italy... so I am not purely a Finnish person, so I can relate to your mentality too quite easily and in my vacations abroad have had the best time ever with locals both in Italy and Greece and funnily enough I was nearly to stay there as one women had for me more suitable temper and same happened even in Monaco with a French woman. I do love my country Finland very much, but I might be a too different for these women or wise versa. Even today in mediterrian countries, women are women and men are men, at least mostly and you can both see it and feel it. Not as any position in family or so, but beeing what we are. Believe or not, anyone, I have had 3 offers in my my trips to France and Italy and Greece... even one more in Turkey, but as the daughter was introduced it wasn't the way I was used in these situations, but all other situations were pure gold, if only I had LEARNED THE LANGUAGE FIRST... You kinda need that one too for the communication... Unfortunately the last beauty from Greece just happenned to be as I was in a middle of crises even though she promised to me to find me a job and everything and was also very wealthy and owned the Hotel I was living and in real life even today, I haven't ever seen as beautiful woman... ever... Blond with deep brown eyes, black eyebrows and lashes... I feel dizzy even now...:P... God damn me!

@MarkoMakela-kk7qf

3 ай бұрын

I was given three months to make up my mind. I got her home adress and her cellphone number and all, but I was a coward... If life sometimes occationally offers you someting great, you better grab on it.

The choire song of Finlandia is the inoffocial National Anthem of Finland. As is the Verdi's Aida "Va pensiero" for Italians!

Thank you Mauro!

Makes me cry every time. -Finn.

Sibelius - such a great composer.

Your wish is granted: Guarda, o Finlandia, sorge il tuo giorno, la minaccia della notte è ormai scacciata e l’allodola del mattino canta nel cielo sereno ed è come se cantasse tutta la volta del cielo, il potere della notte è vinto dal chiarore del mattino, il tuo giorno è venuto, o terra natale. O Finlandia, alza la testa inghirlandata di grandi memorie; sorgi, Finlandia, mostra al mondo che hai scacciato la schiavitù e che non ti sei piegata all’oppressione; il mattino è cominciato, o terra natale.

Those threatening tones in the beginning are a analog to the threat Russia posed to Finnish identity and language back during times when Tsar wanted to assimilate Finns. While many things have changed, Russian government is still a threat that looms over Finland. It's never gone completely away. All this means it's still a very emotional piece for Finns.

All out national romanticism. That's what it is about. The piece builds up to tell a story about Finland's history. Short said, threatened beginnings under the shadow of the Russian empire, from which the country rises to renown.

For me this is a very Scandinavian sound Sibelius, Wilhelm Peterson Berger, Edvard Grieg

Sibelius is the top composer.

🇫🇮❤🇫🇮

Mauro, questo è un brano musicale composto da Sibelius mentre viveva sotto l'occupazione russa, anni dopo che la Russia aveva invaso e soggiogato la Finlandia, deportando migliaia di finlandesi in Siberia. (Proprio come quello che Putin sta facendo all’Ucraina in questo momento.) La musica parla dei finlandesi che superano la brutale occupazione russa e della Finlandia che riconquista la sua indipendenza e libertà, anche quando non sembra esserci alcuna speranza di farlo.

@Gittas-tube

2 ай бұрын

I'm sorry, Ashley, but your historical "facts" are not correct. They're exaggerated or wrong, and the time period is another, having nothing to do with Finlandia. Russia or the Soviet Union has NEVER INVADED Finland and subdued the Finns. The Winter War was fought along the eastern and southern borders or parts of Finland and on the Carelian isthmus. We STOPPED the invasion of the whole country! Previously, from 1809 to 1917, Finland was an autonomous Grand Duchy of the Russian Czars, not an integral part of the Russian empire. You might profit from reading up on Finnish history from a trustworthy source...

This should be our national anthem, but in a haste after the civil, the new country needed new anthem, and so Maamme Laulu became the national anthem.

Mauro, this is a piece that was composed by Sibelius while living under Russian occupation, years after Russia had invaded and subjugated Finland, deporting thousands of Finns to Siberia. (Much like what Putin is doing to Ukraine right now.) The music is about the Finns overcoming Russia's brutal occupation and Finland regaining its independence and freedom, even when there appears no hope of doing so.

Pls check Karelia Suite by Sibelius

Guarda, o Finlandia, sorge il tuo giorno, la minaccia della notte è ormai scacciata e l’allodola del mattino canta nel cielo sereno ed è come se cantasse tutta la volta del cielo, il potere della notte è vinto dal chiarore del mattino, il tuo giorno è venuto, o terra natale. O Finlandia, alza la testa inghirlandata di grandi memorie; sorgi, Finlandia, mostra al mondo che hai scacciato la schiavitù e che non ti sei piegata all’oppressione; il mattino è cominciato, o terra natale.

@mauronicolo89

3 ай бұрын

Grazie!

As in whole choir

Partof the finnish indentity

I just hoped the OP would kept his mouth shut.

Painful to see that this Italian does not know or care -- that this is the REAL national song of Finland. The most serious piece of music that we know.

Finlandia is more than a National anthem. It is right because nowedays Nathional anthem is using too meny everywear. Ice hockey tournaments and so on 😂 a big leap

For god’s sake, don’t interrupt such glorious music with your inane comments!

Originally there was no choir part. After the premiere Sibelius was asked many times to arrange "the hymn part" for a choir, but he was reluctant for a long time. After reading the lyrics written by V. Koskiniemi, he made an choir arrangement as a standalone piece. It was never meant to be sung on top of the original piece, and this choir part really does feel it was just glued on top. For me, these two are worse of when combined.

WW2 veterans... ask why emotional

I hate how glitchy/pixelated the original transmission is. Ruins the fine performance.

@jattikuukunen

3 ай бұрын

Well the performers botched it a bit as well, especially the entrance of the choir. The orchestra and the choir started out of sync and the tempo went all over the place afterwards.

too much talking over the singing :(

Who cares?