It would be the funniest stuff ever if B42 is released an hour from now.

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

LOL

@curbstompzombiekillerz

Ай бұрын

unfortunately that didnt happen😭

@samuelholt983

Ай бұрын

It’s been an hour. WHERE IS B42?!?!

@graysfang4138

Ай бұрын

maybe at 3 hrs?

@jakabferenc4346

Ай бұрын

3 hours and still nothing 😢

As much as I adore using mods, I fully intend to do a vanilla playthrough when 42 comes out so I can experience what QOL updates the devs have inserted into the base game. Most of my sadness with the delays to 42 isn't so much communication from the dev team or the drawn out hype but rather a lot more personal. The person who introduced me to PZ unfortunately passed away this year and we had previously discussed the excitement of animals coming to the game and how we can experience it together when it comes out. I still am eager for the next big update but I am sad I will never be able to experience it with my friend.

@v-alfred

Ай бұрын

thats unfortunate, may the person be rest in peace knowing that you gonna enjoy & having fun with the build 42 and future updates on behalf of him/her :)

@speggeri90

Ай бұрын

Sorry to hear for your loss. I will keep your friend in mind when playing the b42.☺️

@Squilfinator

28 күн бұрын

Sorry for your loss, friend. They'll be with you when you finally get to play the update for sure.

@PinkManGuy

27 күн бұрын

I'm in a similar boat, but I'm the one who got them into Zomboid. Sadly they're struggling with addiction and I don't know what I can do for them. Sad to think him and I won't be playing Zomboid for a looong time, if ever again.

@vishrrfa

23 күн бұрын

I believe your friend will be happy seeing you playing PZ on B42. 👍 Cheers up mate! 😀🍻 Edit: Damn, talking about PZ bring back all the memories 😭

From the info given in the dev-logs, it looks like they had rewrite a bunch of the code for the lighting, rendering, all on top of revamping the crafting framework. I mean they did admit they bit off more than they could chew with the crafting rework, could have kept more features on the backburner... But on the flip side, the performance improvements, the foundations for the crafting + NPCs with the animal AI; this update is laying *major* groundwork for future updates! I can't wait to see what modders do with the new update :)

@vari_ares

Ай бұрын

Frrr I really see this update like a BIG transition update, with a really good fondation for futures (and faster) updates ! ❤

@sebastianm.9681

Ай бұрын

Mods are going to go crazy with those framework updates

@draganoidept

Ай бұрын

Just what I was thinking. Yes its taking a long while but I am sure the game will feel so diferent when it comes. As if a conpletely new game. Besides rewriting a games code takes forever, not something to be envied. A lot of hard work that will be worth it in the end as a groundwork for future content. This reminds me of Starsector, Unreal or DwarfFortress. Small teams with long Dev cycles however they bring bangers praricaly for free! I will keep following zomboid Devs, I can wait, have a backlog of games to go trought anyways, besides can always go for some more zomboid here and there, its a very replayable game.

@OhHeBustin

Ай бұрын

They may have gotten millions of dollars in funding but my wholesome developers need more decades to finish!

@tubasil8786

Ай бұрын

⁠@@OhHeBustinyeah it doesn’t matter that they have had a decade to fix their spaghetti code and literal tens of millions of dollars they are wholesomorino Heckin small devs let them cook! 😎😎😎

I'm honestly ok with waiting longer for an update if it's quality and not rushed. I think people overlook the modding part of this update, the new framework they are building for the game systems will have a MASSIVE effect on the kinds of mods that can be created from them. So the content for the update might be limited but the mods that will come from it will be all the content you could ask for.

@anthonywolf943

Ай бұрын

It's already a great game with easy mods, people just want free dlc.

@ElusivGaming

Ай бұрын

@@anthonywolf943 Aw yeah for sure but a more advanced crafting system opens up many more possibilities for mods. The new map updates and tiles look awesome as well, so much stuff they have announced is going to just make it that much better.

@DuckButtGoesKwekKwek

Ай бұрын

@@anthonywolf943 Its not a free dlc. The game isnt even done yet hence the moniker "early access"

@vinaobalaseca

Ай бұрын

I've played about "only" (compared to more hardcore players) 450h in Zomboid and I'd rather wait longer for updates packed with novelty instead of logging in every couple months only to see minor changes. I think it's fine to pick other games to play while waiting for cool new stuff to be out.

@anthonywolf943

Ай бұрын

@@user-xr9wp7cs3v expectations vs reality. I think breaking a promise is bad, but unforgivable? Try harder to be upset and get nothing then 🤷

Considering the success of build 41 I did expect that the updates would be released quicker because of an expanded team.

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Fair, but funds don't stretch far when you start planning out wages. They've taken on a few key people from the modding community and I'd rather that than hiring a whole office of people that don't really know the game. That's how lay-offs happen, which is RIFE at the moment in games dev.

@Coolpeeps2

Ай бұрын

@@MrAtomicDuck Yeah I agree, I'm ok with waiting I'm used to it the confusion is a little annoying but I love this game. Thanks for the update.

@FlailofFury

Ай бұрын

I can't find the comment but back when build 41 was released they said they didn't like what the massive wait lead to and wanted to avoid doing that again, only to then do it on the very next release.

@eduardotrillaud696

Ай бұрын

TBF they expanded the team, but also the tasks that team would have to put their hands on.

@lechking941

Ай бұрын

@@FlailofFury im shure they still dont but with the quality they want in zomboid making shure they dont have to remake htings to much. compared too speedy constant can lose such quality.

I have quite a big friend group surrounding zomboid. However, I have seen a pretty significant decrease in playing zomboid and now we basically never play it. It's true that adding one thing at a time in tiny updates doesn't really drive anyone to get back on. But similarly, a big update years after people have lost interest has an even higher ceiling in what they need to achieve to get people to go through the faff of reinvesting. I think a healthy balance needs to be found somewhere between. A bunch of people waiting and wondering why the update is taking long, only to be drip-fed a dev update saying they've added Jpegs of newspaper headlines whenever you read newspapers does not invigorate people's excitement for the wait.

in all honesty im not stressing about mods, im looking forward to a vanilla playthrough at first to full experience the new things! mods will come in time ive always assumed and never been worried about

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Exactly what I'll be doing when B42 drops. Try to do the same every major update! Play without mods again, appreciate vanilla, get used to the changes while mods are being fixed up.

My bet is that they're stuck on something of a technical performance thing (with the lighting thing or something) and everybody else working on it is just waiting for the release as well, but continuing on development on whatever part they work on. And since the release takes so long to come out, more work gets done, new ideas get pitched, and you get scope creep. Scope creep is the road to development hell.

@mateidragne6666

Ай бұрын

This is very likely one of the major issues. Yep.

@Jewls1

16 күн бұрын

they work on Java bro. That's pretty much all you need to know

I wanna come back here once it's out. So god dang excited for b42, animals is gonna be amazing

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Animals are one of the things I'm most excited for too :)

Being one of the ogs, playing the game for the last decade at least, I'm just worried that they lost track of what they are doing a little bit. I remember when B41 was about to come out, they said that it wouldn't take such a long time for the builds afterwards to come out since the graphical update was difficult task that would smooth things afterwards. Almost 3 years have passed and we dont have any concrete news about B42 coming out not even in full swing but as a beta. Could be a month, could be a year. They keep talking about new ideas and stuff they are going to add that was never referenced before and i love them for that but maybe they lost a bit of focus on what they should do. Systems first, overhauls later.

@bingobangobongo425

15 күн бұрын

This is my exact sentiment

I always appreciate your informative videos especially as a noob myself, excited to hear about build 42 as I joined the game right around a few months after build 41 and I just haven't played the game much but yesterday I had such a fun time, running from the hordes, taking them on with my spiked bat and axe all the way to building up my base, barricading windows, leveling up carpentry to build a door that my friend let a zed take down, to the sad moments seeing that my friend was bit and knowing his first ever adventure was over, but we still stand tall!

As someone whose put over 900 hours in the game, loved every moment, and paid like £10 for that experience, it’s really hard to get into the mindset of someone who is legit frustrated at the devs for the speed of updates. I get the suggestion of a community manager or something similar and can see why that would be good. But the guys behind this game have more than enough goodwill from me to be patient about this kind of thing.

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

For sure, I've definitely got my money's worth and that's why I'll never be upset about waiting. At the end of the day, I'd rather have a good game (Which we already have!) than a rushed, half-baked one.

@Time_Ripper

Ай бұрын

​@@MrAtomicDuck id pay more if it got us quicker updates 😅

@DarkChildXXVII

Ай бұрын

@bobit2000 I completely agree!

@savagesquad9870

Ай бұрын

@@Time_Rippercan’t rush perfection

@nerfherder4284

Ай бұрын

1000% agree 👍🏻

The PZ subreddit has become completely censored for any post mentioning the wait time

@Totallynotkyubey

29 күн бұрын

Eh, business as usual. Every couple of years some groups tire of waiting and the mods on steam, reddit and discord go on locking/banning sprees.

@windflier1684

29 күн бұрын

Nothing new, YTB has already become the only place to freely talk about this game, and it's because no toxic mods here.

@Totallynotkyubey

28 күн бұрын

@@user-xr9wp7cs3v You betcha. If you are lucky, you get a 6 paragraph ranting comment and a warning. If not, banned without warning.

@nuudelz3711

27 күн бұрын

Probably a good thing, I only started this year after having it in my steam liveable for years. I had no idea how toxic a community could be about a sandbox game where you can literally play it however you want already with a great mod community. They don’t know how good they have it over here.. trying playing blizzard games for 30 years

@Kalethekill

27 күн бұрын

They are notorious for deleting criticism, even if it's something that would help the game if they listened to. Instead they ignore it until it becomes a huge problem, like when the MP issue happened and took most servers down for months

It’s just crazy how long the gaps between the updates, I remember defending them 5 years ago and 1 update has come out

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Yeah, slow dev cycle, but I'm hopeful it'll be worth it. Rather that than bad updates.

@sziklamester1244

Ай бұрын

5 year for one update can happen with multiple reasons. Dwarf Fortress is an ongoing project which is in the development like 27-30 year also there is a game named UnReal World which is also an indie game which is still in development for 35 years by now.

@holymegadave

Ай бұрын

@@MrAtomicDuck thats the way of thinking that enables them to just keep doing the same shit.. a never ending loop. They are like kids.. they want to be Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead so bad.. but the dont realize the fact that doing that is not possible. Thats why the devs of cataclysm is using tiles instead of better graphics... you cant deliver a game the scope of cataclysm in fully 3D. This is a comercial game not a free game.. thats why there is no problem with CDDA developing it eternally.

@holymegadave

Ай бұрын

@@sziklamester1244 both projects were free games and still are free games with an option to buy them.. different beast. If you are doing it commercially you need to finish the damn thing. I think they are not capable of creating anything else besides PZ and thats why they keep developing it.

@ryvaldoihma2814

Ай бұрын

​@@sziklamester1244thats a really bad comparison

Tbh i just want to be able to put my Dishes on plates and stews and soups in bowls

@olapapi5486

Ай бұрын

Stews and soups do go into bowls? but yea the plates are just for show right now

@0neLoneClone

Ай бұрын

There's a mod for that js

@jfk7086

Ай бұрын

@@0neLoneClone THERE IS?!

@jfk7086

Ай бұрын

@@olapapi5486 I’ve tried to put them together and it didn’t work maybe i did it wrong idk

@0neLoneClone

Ай бұрын

@jfk7086 yeah man, I forgot the mod name but yes there's a mod that makes plates usable to have a plate of food

I think a lot of the community believed that b42 was going to be released by june but we all forgot that it was planned, and plans can change for any reason. Ofc it'd still be great if indie stone would have said something to clear up the confusion.

Considering I started playing in build 32 I knew about the game dating back to the baldspot tutorial alpha game, I can wait!

As someone who's worked on projects, some features tie into other features. It's like building a 2nd floor of apartments before completing the 1st floor w/ utility demark. 2nd fl w/o power and water would just suck and not "work properly." To give big features, sometimes you need to hold off on the smaller dependent ones. Before you say some don't depend on others, so release those... sometimes they are dependent in the background in ways you'd not expect. This isn't to excuse anything, just remember that unless you're developing this game, you do not know all the details or exactly how their process works. But I do definitely agree on one thing, consistency in constant communication with the community would probably help. EDIT: Comment was made mid-video lol.

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

For sure! This is a really well worded way of explaining it. Thanks for sharing.

Good video! Thank you for posting. This was very useful information. I really like this game, but it's one of those that I don't play ALL the time. I look forward to all the stuff in the next update, but I know the game will be there whenever that happens. I have a ton of other stuff to play in the meantime, so I'm OK being patient! :)

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Me too, a little patience for a great game is no problem to me.

also also, new lighting and view cone system is amazing imo and i can not wait. I'm such a huge fan of these new features that I barely play B41 in anticipation of B42.

Doesn't matter if it's a formal post, or an employee posting anywhere online. The only difference is, the company should be firm with their employees about what is posted regarding upcoming projects. And if there is a slip, they should post a correction. As a consumer, it's our responsibility to never believe anything that isn't out. But this is still on the company most. And yes, you read assumptions into the posts. Reasonable assumptions, but still not good to do assumptions without mentioning things being assumption vs fact in every instance mentioned. I get you know this, my main point it the irresponsibility over accountability for all employees actions when related to your company. I still don't care when anything comes out. I still don't want release dates for any entertainment media over 2 months out. I'm surprised it's a huge fuss. I'd like it sooner than later. But whatever.

I enjoy the current version but i have a problem when devs promise something and tease it forever, everytime it happens I'm reminded of Yandere Simulator

@vishrrfa

23 күн бұрын

Yeah for real 😂... This is the reason I started supporting Indie devs and play pirated AAA games 😂

im super excited for b42, one of the main things im excited for is that someone said that roofs are getting reworked so you dont clip through etc, me and my friends always found that super annoying when building on roofs

One thing I wished they'd update us on, the fire rework they talked about ages ago. I haven't seen anything else on it, I hope that it wasn't just forgotten. And hopefully this new, grapple tech? Whatever it's called that was talked about not long ago doesn't go down a similar path. But we'll see! Anyways, side from that, great video! Thanks for this one, I was under the impression build 42 would be out in early 2025 and the unstable build with be out by now, glad that got cleared up

@SneedsterSpeedster

11 сағат бұрын

The fire rework got pushed back indefinitely, and the grapple tech showoff was purely a "look at this cool thing!" post and isn't close to being finished or ready for B42 according to the team.

Fewer larger updates is way better for modding, and with a number of mod devs coming onto the team, this fact is also probably a component of the new behavior from the devs.

@rekohart

Ай бұрын

People need to look at how rapid micro updates fractured the Minecraft modding ecosystem.

@svijj_

Ай бұрын

Yes, I think it would be good to look at another publisher whose games are highly moddable - Paradox Interactive. In most of their games, updates are indeed fairly regular (2-3 major ones per year). And yes, this schedule, although good for the games in the long run, is the source of many laments on the mod devs' discord servers. But I think the updates are still spaced out fairly well, which always gives them some working room. By contrast - Project Zomboid is great for modders, with modding itself being one of the main reasons the game is so replayable

@rbad6215

Ай бұрын

@@rekohart tbh i dont think minecraft applies much there, most people settle into one favourite major update QUICKLY, i mostly use 1.7.10 for modding, all my mates use 1.20.1

I saw you asked about the source for the quote "no build will ever take as long as Build 41 did" in another comment I looked it up, and it's stated in the devblog "2022 and beyond", and repeated towards the end of "The Zuckerverse" :) Disclaimer: I'm only posting this to help out Duck with his question. When I first read the statement, I took it with a grain of salt, and I don't find it upsetting whatsoever that it took long, considering the size of the update.

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

I think that after this update the developers should expand and develop the lore of project zomboid lore, they can do an even more interesting lore with things which are currently in game and that people don't pay almost any attention to like why are all the crops dead? What was the military test that is sometimes mentioned in some ads on the tv as well as some toxins in the forest and some unknow event regarding fossoil. There is also the Raleigh event which I think is a very interesting thing that not many people know about.

been waiting on this video!

Why couldnt the bike stand upby its self? Because it was two tired

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

I hate that I laughed

@Eevee64Lover

Ай бұрын

@@MrAtomicDuck i had this same thought lmfao like he got me

@MsHojat

Ай бұрын

That's pretty good. Particularly because it's true too.

A bit annoying that they don't make a proper announcement and allow this confusion

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I do understand their stance about not making a release announcement, but with all the confusion I think it should have been cleared up. Still, I had a part to play in that and I accept responsibility.

@johnmcconnell7052

Ай бұрын

@MrAtomicDuck you owning up to your mistake is a good practice I just see their issue and I'm like well this explains why we all thought a date and then some lost hope.

@restanco

Ай бұрын

3 years with zero updates.. frustrating not annoying

@jonr9467

Ай бұрын

They probably don't even know themselves yet, that's why they had to drop some features. I doubt they're gonna make it this year, and I think they know that but don't want to admit it and disappoint the fanbase.

@mixasfox1334

Ай бұрын

just like in zomboid TV programs, lie and cover up truth about virus till its too late

to me a long wait is acceptable as long im still fed information of whats going on, not bi weekly then ghosting, half the time the info isnt really much

Amazing video and talk on the subject considering we dont get much news from anyone! Really appreciate the news as well as accepting fault, I respect that a lot, even how small it may be. Where is this base on the map?

As pumped as I am for this update I didn't even notice any release date miscommunication. At this stage I think of the devs as deeply engaged artists. Their process has turned out gold over and over and I have no worries with the schedules

@LilGameb0y

Ай бұрын

Same. I really don't want the devs to feel rushed and instead release the update when its ready. I love Re-Logic for their slow, but meaningful updates so I have no issue with the development of Build 42.

@voxii_13

Ай бұрын

@@LilGameb0y It's been 3 years for a small update. They aren't rushed. They need to release something. Early access and 3 years since the last patch is fucking sad.

@shumpiremadness2372

Ай бұрын

​@@voxii_13 Average cod kid mindset I suppose

@voxii_13

Ай бұрын

@@shumpiremadness2372 What does CoD have anything to do with PZ ? I am also not a child. Average low IQ reply.

@Alucard-mj6yj

Ай бұрын

​@@voxii_13 sounds like you missed the point of early access

I really don't think development schedules had anything to do with the success of Project Zomboid in December 2021, but rather they mostly were the beneficiaries of hype about the update through the tail end of the various national lockdowns, that saw a large bump in gaming in general. I've been waiting since 2014, and I'm happy to keep waiting for as long as it takes to get it right: Each update has added something more to the game, given me a few hundred more hours of fun, and I'm perfectly happy to continue in that cycle. Roll on retail release circa-2032.

Cheers for the rectification

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

You got it. Apologies for the confusion!

man i really like your videos, i remember watching your videos in the time i didn't have a good pc to play PZ just to kill the will to play it haha, now i can play the game and i still watch your videos while i play zomboid, keep up doing the nice job you do. (sorry for the trash english, still learning hahaha)

As someone who was part of that 41 influx I am fine tooling around waiting for the game to *fundamentally change* but zomboid plays are something I rove in and out of between other activities. I think the large drops make the most sense to not leave us weakening out own community through mod support and constant server issues every change. I would hope that continued success allows the team to continue to grow which results in either these updates being bigger or being more solid when they drop, but with the state of how the larger game development is going I would rather the team stay strong and within their means than rush to a quick death. But, I am used to following things like Dwarf Fort, Banished, Manner Lords and other groups that take literal decades, but are built on solid gameplay systems as pull. A lot to say, I am okay taking their time, because this sure as s--- ain't vaporware.

I think I'm in the minority, but I've never gotten bored with this build. Between the current build and all the unique mods, I've found this game already near perfect. If anything I'm nervous about how crafting changes will make Zomboid feel more "gamey" than I like. Don't get me wrong I'm hyped as heck for the map updates and enemy AI, I'm just already so satisfied.

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

That's awesome! Keep doing you. As long as you're enjoying it, that's all that matters.

@churros724

27 күн бұрын

Hell no id anything I myself want it to be a lot more gamey I get bored really fast and having progression with crafting and in the future with noc questgivees is gonna be a lot bette

@littlespittle9502

23 күн бұрын

This is how I feel fr

Can’t wait

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Hopefully not long left!

We can't get upset with you. You work hard to update us with your videos. Many of us are disappointed but yes. My big fear is some new game will come along to wipe Zomboid off the map before its finished. The updates just take so long it feels like only a mater of time before another game matches it.

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

I don't think there's much risk of a similar game coming along, it's a very niche topic area, especially nowadays. Yeah there's always gonna be more zombie games, but with Zomboid's view perspective and level of detail? Not likely. Thank you for the support!

@forgenorman3025

Ай бұрын

@@MrAtomicDuck Actually there's a game called Vein that's like a 3D PZ game, they're still working on it but it could meet or even beat PZ.

@sirnuggets9666

Ай бұрын

@@forgenorman3025 not if you're taking the modding community for PZ into account, it can't even touch PZ yet.

@sziklamester1244

Ай бұрын

I do not think other similar games can beat project zomboid because this game has a lot of interesting systems and elements what makes it unique. Only thing can ruin a game is it's own developers with bad marketing or messed up content. For example there are like 15-20 dino survival game on the market but 3 major game exists yet and there are 2 serious contender to grab playerbase but the overall genre is a niche market with fewer players. Also trends always changing and some game slowly become less interesting while other ones becoming popular. Developers also following trends but in my knowledge the PZ is a long timer game, along with Starsector, Kenshi, and some other ones but no other games really covering these niches what these games govern.

@johnyprigioni859

Ай бұрын

It already happened a while ago. Game became too stale, everyone downloaded 200 mods and still dropped the game.

I think what you've got here is a pretty fair and decent assessment of the situation, I also think you don't have any reason to apologise to use, Mr Duck, but I appreciate your candor and I completely understand why you feel like you should. You can only report on the news TIS puts out and that's what you do (in your ineffable waterfowly ways) no harm, no foul, no knickers twisted so to speak. I think the fault with the misunderstanding over potential release timing falls squarely at their doorstep, they could have said something earlier to better explain what was meant once they saw the confusion (as I'm sure they keep tabs on the community at large). They didn't and that's ok, water under the proverbial bridge and I'm certainly not upset about it, everyone makes the occasional gaff, no big deal. I do like the detail they've been putting in the dev-blogs of late, I do think they've been trying to explain a bit more of the process as well (maybe to make up for the blunder) and it goes without saying that I'm absolutely buzzing for B42 when it gets here. I do get the feeling that developmental things might have snowballed on their end in terms of how much work it's going to be to actually do everything they're planning, I mean let's be honest it's looking like B42 is going to somewhat of a major overhaul of the game mechanics and engine. As far as release schedules in general go I'm perfectly fine with either option, I have a feeling what we're going to see is a hybrid version. We're currently in the long delay / big release phase for B42, but given what they've been saying and hinting at recently I think once that drops we're likely to see a switch to quicker / smaller updates for a period of time so they can release all the additional features and extra bits that don't make it into the initial release. Then settle back into a longer delay as they work on the core of Build 43, whatever that may be. I've been with PZ since 2013 so I've been through a lot of this before in some ways, I may step away from time to time, try other zombie games, but I always end up getting drawn back in. Build 42 will come out when it's ready and I'll be here to enjoy it when it does! Cheers Mr Duck! And thanks to anyone that waded through this unnecessarily wordy post! 😁

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Appreciate the support! I'm inclined to agree with a lot of what you've said here. Personally I've a preference for big content drops at a slow schedule. I don't think folks realise that the alternative won't keep them busy for very long before they get bored again.

@Feldynn

Ай бұрын

@@MrAtomicDuck Spot on mate, good lasting content will always take Devs time to produce, it's easy to forget that sometimes more quicker update release schedules may not even be extra content at all and simply bug fixes, polishing existing features and unseen groundwork for future content. I can't wait to just mooch around and explore things again, with the new lighting, sound, basements and wotnot there's going to so many "omg squirrel!" moments experiencing things again with a new found sense of discovery, and a liberal smattering of Emergency Pant deployment scenarios from that one zombie crying in a basement or the echo of banging it's head in a tunnel.. glorious!! 😁

I've got 700 hours in on a 20 dollar game, it's easily one of the greatest value purchases in my game library. I couldn't imagine complaining about a free update to game I've gotten so friggin much value out of.

I JUST WANT SITTING IN VANILLA

I used to follow 7 Days to Die all through alpha and eagerly awaited its updates. 10 years! Now I'm tired of the ambiguousness of it all and their final is out or coming out and I could care less, havnt played it in 2 years, and so I found other cool ideas to explore. I considered myself a loyal fan of the game like a lot of people posting here...but I did eventually give up waiting so I can play for a few months and then wait another couple of years for the next tiny bit of an update. Sometimes it just feels like these game companies are milking more money out of alpha releases and don't want to finish it.

@Robot_Joe

16 күн бұрын

how are they milking money out of the game when it's a one time purchase, this makes no sense. It's not a live service, there is no dlc like what lol

@doriangoodwin3108

16 күн бұрын

@Robot_Joe milking to get money before its finished. not entirely bad but...once you've got something your providing keep it up....slow down too much like The Fun Pimps did with 7 days to Die and people just drop and the final product doesn't show...calculate alll the expenses the company incurs by expanding a dev project 10 years for something that is 4 yrs

I do think they would benefit from a slightly faster release cycle, but another reason they aren't keen on a new release every two weeks is the absolute hell that would turn the mod scene into. Now, a new release comes out every couple years, and it takes a week for the more popular mods to all update, with a long tail of mods we wish would update and don't, and then they get forked or rebuilt. Imagine that process starting every two weeks... But a fixed release schedule, say once a year or maybe even every six months, would help them avoid biting off more than they can chew, a problem they have run into over and over again. It costs them extra time when they get closer to a theoretical release date and they need to start cutting things back out for stability and consistency, the way they're doing with some of the features in 42...

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

For sure, the modding scene is important to PZ and pushing out updates that potentially break mods every couple of months would be a bit rough. Fixed release schedule is interesting, but would it give them enough content in each one to draw players back?

@entire9694

Ай бұрын

The problem with waiting 2.5 fucking years for an update is that probably a good portion of mod makers just quit the game.. b42 will see a lot mods not getting continued.

@dh8203

Ай бұрын

Yep, I'll take fewer, bigger releases over having frequent releases and constantly troubleshooting my installed mods every time!

@johanjohansson3305

Ай бұрын

No need to imagine, just try stormworks build and rescue..... Yeah the space DLC update caused quite a few issues...... It's a great game but sometimes features get borked and fixed by half messure bandaids that can last for months.

@samuelsilva8364

Ай бұрын

I think everyone (reasonable) agrees that they can't be putting stuff out weekly or monthly, but three years is crazy long time. That can also have an impact on "casual modders". Some people make a lot of them and will be working to fix their stuff, but why people who made one or two mods would come to fix that fun stuff they made years ago anyway?

found that home your in, the first house in the top left corner of lake cumberland AWESOME HOUSE!!! did you find saul in the cage?

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

We did!

@ChadLaws

Ай бұрын

My friend made that for our faction :D Its the NPC Motel to us but glad you like it. Saul is supposed to stay the cage. DO NOT LET HIM OUT.

@GrenadeDave

Ай бұрын

Bigger question is which one of his enemies put him in a cage during the apocalypse O.o

I'm another one of the 10's of thousands of players waiting for this update...that has gotten the whole community so excited (and has given the devs so much work lol)! Just wanted to thank you for supporting this wonderful game...i really love it! And for giving us useful information about the game ofc. God bless!

This should be fun. I'm hopeful but realistic. They're a small team, and they deliver quality. Don't be surprised if it takes longer than expected.

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Yep, good sentiment to have!

@lamariselite729

Ай бұрын

​@@rocketdock11what?

@lupus_vesuvius6859

Ай бұрын

​@@lamariselite729just a doomposter, just ignore them

@Its_another_bird

Ай бұрын

@@rocketdock11but they routinely hire the modding community onto their team LOL

@F2PMegaGod

Ай бұрын

Small team? According to their website, the picture that "sadly lacks our Canadian, Russian, American and Australian contingents" alone has 10 people on it. When is a dev team not considered "small"? Especially when the majority of content comes from mods?

Good luck with future vids, nice channel! I hope to make zomboid content one day!

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Good luck!

On the mod part: some QOL features will be included in the build itself. I have seen a modder explain on his page that this specific mod would be doscontinued because it would become a feature. Forgot what it was

Everything you said makes perfect sense, as someone who just got into this game like a month ago I can say that I already cannot wait for B42 to drop, it sounds amazing and really shows the epic potential this whole project holds for the future... to actually have good, functioning NPCs in a setting that is already incredibly immersive and realistic is a pretty tall order, so its more then understandable that they want to take their time with it, and from what Ive seen so far, it is well worth the wait.

What happened to lemmys post that was pinned ?

@BlastingXNP

29 күн бұрын

I assume it was deleted. It wasn't good for TIS to have it sitting there. You can still find it in other people's videos though.

Fun fact. Lemmy replied in a comment on the Zleigh Ride post on reddit stating "No, first half of 2024 for sure. At least for the public beta." This was a reply to someone saying it'll be out in 2025. It wasn't a one off mistake in communication. Edit: I forgot to include the second quote. Second quote is "No, 2024, and unlikely the back end of it." In response to yet another 2025 comment. Edit2: Another quote since I'm actually going through history now. "Me. First half of next year at least for public beta."

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

This was the comment I was referring to in the video I think? Unless I showed the wrong one on-screen. Just comes down to a bit of over-eagerness imo.

@manitoba-op4jx

Ай бұрын

yall get more communication from the indie stone than tf2 gets from valve, be grateful

@mort2034

Ай бұрын

Honestly, I get sad when people complain about missed guesstimates. I get why, but I also know the devs are less likely to give them next time, and I personally appreciate them. In any case, we know the build is at least somewhat close to a beta release because of this guesstimate.

@Retanaru

Ай бұрын

@@MrAtomicDuck forgot to include the second quote. edited the initial to reflect that. I also fully agree that it's just Lemmy being Lemmy.

@Retanaru

Ай бұрын

@@mort2034 The problem comes when the community and the devs focus on doing things right the slow way and not talking about dates. Only to do it anyway.

1:05 how to build walls like that? i always right click on the frame and then select the level of the wall

@dnsvls

29 күн бұрын

Easy. You right click on the frame, select level of the wall, and never cancel your chosen option. It stays locked on your mouse until you cancel it anyway with "Escape" button for example.

@royalrumble7185

29 күн бұрын

@@dnsvls thanks buddy 👍🏻

@dnsvls

29 күн бұрын

@@royalrumble7185 hey anytime friend!

what is the mod you are using that has brand names? The coca cola vending machine.

I think working on the game can take as long as it needs to take, but they should never have led people to believe b42 was coming out any time soon.

I don't mind release date. I want NPC. I want quest. I want them to be good. I've wait for years. I can wait a few more.

@mmd3585

Ай бұрын

I can wait if their focus is that. I have waited for 10+ years for the NPCs, and instead we get all sorts of updates, spaced between years, that has some cool stuff aligned with some useless features that should be added AFTER the main features of the game are done.

@holymegadave

Ай бұрын

NPC with Quests.. im waiting since 2013 keep waiting mate..

I just saw u did some video on tarkov about 5y ago, I was wondering If u tried this wipe or if u still play the game. If u did, I would love to see a tarkov video from u also ty for this quality content

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Nah, left Tarkov a long time ago now, just not really my thing anymore :) Thanks though!

I feel like the b42 release date misunderstanding was widespread enough that the developer should have noticed and corrected expectations in a more official announcement. Even a non-comital response of "we might release it then but we might not". That said I don't really mind their snail pace of development because they've never asked me for more money. I'm not really sure how they are even affording years of additional development - I guess they must just still get a steady trickle of new players or a spike around releases maybe.

Tbh, I quit playing. The game is great. Mods are fantastic. All that being said, the base game of just surviving gets old. NPCs are a breath of needed air. I will play it went B42 comes out. Until then 🤘

@PK-se2jh

Ай бұрын

sameee

@jwb_666

Ай бұрын

basically, I'll still jump on to f around but yeah this

@kensvideos1

Ай бұрын

Try not killing the zomboids!! I make it so only crawlers can get under a car and cheese cars between tall fencers. There is nothing as scary as shopping at the gigamart while your infected buddy follows you up and down the isles. Push him on the ground and stand on his chest while you grab that orange soda.

@direthered1260

Ай бұрын

NPCs will add alot... That said build 42 will only be animals. Human NPCs we will probably see in a few more years...

@planisphere9

Ай бұрын

@@direthered1260probably never, more like.

Didn't they also say that the animal AI was a stepping stone to the NPC AI? From what I've seen the NPC's should be pretty interesting if they can pull off what they'd like to

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Yes, correct!

whats the mod that adds the coke vending machines? adds a nice touch

To be honest, at this point in time since I've already waited long enough, I'll take what I can get. Hopefully that includes the animal NPCs, Basements,more crops, and Map/Lighting updates. Other than that, some more craftings are just extras for me.

Tbh I've always generally preferred the, "big updates that take a long time" approach to Development. Since it works better with how I play Videogames in general. Rather sinking my teeth into a game for weeks to months and then moving on to another one.

I feel disappointed, when B41 came out they said it wouldn't take as long for future updates to release. Then they mention the crafting system multiple times as one of the main pillars for B42; now, aware of the fact that beta is not coming out on the first half of the year, they still need to release the crafting system incomplete so that, according to their own 2024 release statement, it won't get pushed back even further. So that means that if they were to release B42 as they had envisioned 2 years ago it would've presumably (from their own official statements I already mentioned) gone further than 2024. TLDR I feel they now have to cut crafting system content from beta because otherwise it would probably release on 2025, basically taking as long to develop B42 (Dec. 2021 stableB41 - 2025?) as B41 (Oct. 2018 stableB40 - Dec. 2021) did.

I'm brand new to the game and I know I can wait longer than other people with no stress on it, however, I do wanna stres to the devs and others that as I;m sure were all aware... they're still people doing this all for us the community. I'm so thankful to have found this game... A true gem in the state of gaming today.. Taky your time and keep up the FANTASTIC work everyone. Much thanks and love! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

I also love big updates yearly or every couple years because it gives time for modders to release stuff. and not worry about patching things EVERY month for some small hotfix.

They honestly gotta get good community manager and if they have one now they need to replace/retrain them

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Nah, not on the CM. Nasko is a great chap and does good work. They aren't in control of what goes in the blog, nor what's posted on Twitter or Reddit. Nothing to do with the CM in this case, rather management identifying that a public statement was needed.

@TheZamphire

Ай бұрын

@@MrAtomicDuckthe CM is the one who is supposed to tell management that they need to make a statement. so yeah it’s either be the managers above the CM not listening to the CM and players or the CM failing at their job either way it needs to be fixed asap

@Godly_Nose

Ай бұрын

id agree if they were a bigger company but id rather have resources go to more important things.

@Deplorableprogressive

Ай бұрын

@@MrAtomicDucksounds too corporate is all. Hopefully they see this and understand there is nothing wrong with a little hype. The CM needs to be able to take some wins to the players😊❤

@Torkkar

Ай бұрын

@@MrAtomicDuck Strange the community Manager doesn't Mannage 2 platforms that are hot beds of community activity lol just bustin bricks here.

Finally, excited to see what you think :)

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Let me know how you feel!

@K3nn4rD-S

Ай бұрын

@@MrAtomicDuck I think that was a very good and down to earth in depth video on the b42 situation, thanks!

Been around since Desura. I now just tell myself they figured out a one studio one game strategy.

Yeah it honestly seems like everyone is just tired of waiting and heard what they wanted to hear. 🤷 really doesn’t seem that big a deal to wait a a little bit for a massive update

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Yeah, the wait for me isn't an issue at all. It's a hard truth that many people, especially younger gamers, aren't used to the time it can take indie devs to release substantial updates.

honestly the level of care took to recount false reporting in this world is refreshing

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

:)

I am to state my opinion on the length of the update. Nothing bad, just the thought process behind is it a good time frame or not. (This is going to be a long one.) I think that the update is taking too long, but only by a little bit. I understand all the work going in and I don't want them to rush it. I also know that the last update took about 3 years and so it isn't out of the question, but there are some reasons that I say its taking too long by a little bit. When the multiplayer update came out was when I got into the game, I also ended up buying about 5 copies for friends because of how much I loved it and just wanted people to try it. It also marked a large influx of players and thus more copies sold and as we know more copies so means more money and more money means more employees. The increase in employees is something that throughout the thursdoids they have pointed out as well so that should have a positive effect on turn around time. If you mix the amount of work they are doing, the problems that arise when trying to integrate the features with the coding and well the new coding itself I do understand the wait, not to mention their statements themselves about how build 41 was their longest update and that they weren't going to do it again (not those exact words). So when I was reading the thursdoids, seeing the new recruitment's, seeing the development roadmap, and the earlier statements on how they didn't want to spend as much time as build 41 I truly expected sometime in the late 2023 maybe early 2024 time frame for such a major update. So it seems just a little too long. This leads nicely into my next 2 points. Build 41 brought a lot of people in and the roadmap suggested more frequent updates. I think the long development time leads to 2 issues that are going to be difficult for the indie stone to overcome. The first being how many players have stopped playing, don't get me wrong they seem to have stabilized around the 35-40 thousand mark and that is still really good, but that is still a loss of about 1/3 from their highest point. If they would have have smaller and more frequent releases (like once a year, not a month or a few months between) then, I believe, that would have had more people talking about the new things added, people would have come back more often to check out what changed and they could have possibly had more growth in the steady players over time. But that is a matter of opinion and not a matter of fact. But I can draw a correlation to another game, one that the Indie stone team as said they tend to draw inspiration from Minecraft. The yearly updates tend to bring people back to play yearly, even for me and I don't pay attention to the updates. It is almost like I am conditioned to want to play Minecraft once a year for a good amount of time and then just stop. That is not to say that Indie stone has the same capital or employees to do such a thing. But even just adding features as they go would be a good draw for people to check back in regularly. (But this also mean that people would see the HUGE change that is going to happen when a big update comes. So positive and negatives, take that how you will.) The second issue is that now that roadmap looks a lot different. What looked like updates that would take 5 to 7 years is seeming to look more like 15 to 20 years and that doesn't seem viable from a developer stand point or a "longevity in player base" standpoint. There is be a lot of people who will change dramatically in the time it now looks like and I think the core playerbase that they have cultured will be fractured if that is what the future holds. A lot of player finding something new, changing interests, and just growing out of gaming may lead to a lot of the players not getting to see the end vision. I mean think of this, the image they gave means that the first npc update will not be done for another 1 1/2 to 2ish years after this update which means about 5 years since they announced it and that's just the initial npc update. That is a long time and brings a lot of worry to someone like me who has been hyped about that update for the entire length build 42 has been being worked on. To put it into perspective, I am worried that I will be in my late 40's before the roadmap is finished and that.... is not good. Again, these is an opinions and have no ill will intended in them. I personally am not angry or frustrated as much as concerned. With that said this is their game and I know it's a passion project so far be it to me to ell them how to do it or to criticize them for how they make it. You keep doing you Indie Stone, I will be cheering for your success until I no longer can. TLDR; (By paragraph) 1. I expected a long development but I expected about a year less time due to the increase funding (from the success of build 41) which led to more employees. (Proud of you Indie Stone, you guys deserve the success) 2. I think releasing smaller updates more often would have led to more players and more consistent player even though they haven't done too bad in that department. But, with that said the longer larger updates are going to lead to players "seeing" the big changes all at once. 3. With the length of build 42, it makes the development roadmap look to the games detriment rather than it's benefit in the long term. Note: This is Indie Stones game and I know the passion they have, I know they have a vision and I want them to take it at their pace. These are more observations and concerns and if Indie Stone reads this don't let any criticism change your view. Just keep the passion, keep loving what your are doing, and it will shine through your work. I wish all the success for the dedicated team that built and is still working on my favorite game. Edited to add this: I think this video did a good job on explaining thought processes and the understanding about the development process that makes it hard to just focus on once feature and the negatives that would come with more frequent updates and there is large amount of examples that show the section of about mods to be true. I just wanted to give the props for the video itself.

small frequent updates are nice, but what can you manage in this short time? a new vehicle. a few new weapons or new clothing models. plus a few fixes and balancings. nice, but mods will do that better. (sometimes even fixes) that is why big updates with komplett overhaul.

I'd rather wait to get a better product. And all that entails. Cheers.

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Good stance to take.

to me it seems kind of dumb to try and push such a huge update in one go it would make it a nightmare for bug removal

Its cool that i know only the unstable build would release this year i just thought that it would contain the all the good stuff based on your vids, then the sad news came. Better coms for both parties specially you i always watch your vids first and then i skim through the blogs haha.

I'm trying to get the perfect mod list ready for build 42

We can only work with what we have in frount of us, and when what we have is imperfect, we can only do our best and stay transparent about the process. That is the mark of a pro. Hay man, as an educator and communicator in the IT space for an old man's length of time and as a pz player of 8or 9 years, I love and appreciate ur commentary. Espeshaly these updates! You do a fantastic job. Cheers!

@MrAtomicDuck

27 күн бұрын

Thank you!!

Very well said! 🍻

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Appreciate you ♥

Good on you for accountabiloty. I know updates come down to patience. As such, I am glad to be new to the game. I jus barely got another buddy of mime to start playing. The devs deserve all the time they need. We need to keep the fire going so they dont run out of steam.

I am psyched. Let them take their time and make it great. I have played since early on and we already have much more than back then.

I'm getting a bit frustrated, but everything you've said makes sense. I think once it does drop, we'll mostly forget about the wait and just focus on exploring the new content and features.

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Oh for sure. It'll be a thing of the past for a year or so, and then people will be looking to the next update and we'll see it all over again 😂

Project Zomboid is one of these games where if all development would stop in one hour, it will always be the great game that will likely never die

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Agreed, it's already an incredible game.

@Ienteredmynamecorrectly-lt3nu

Ай бұрын

Well they said that about Minecraft as well, and one shitty update later people think the game's on the verge of dying.

@BlueSky_fur

Ай бұрын

@@Ienteredmynamecorrectly-lt3nu that’s a people issue then tough. No update pleases everyone in the end

Clearly they are an awesome team with only okay/not great management. But we knew that already.

8:12 From a software development perspective, there is also *significant* overhead to releasing. Each small release would require additional QA time, bureaucracy to submit the release to Steam (and get it approved), splitting off a release branch which can pause the development of certain features, possible post-release emergency bug fixes, etc. Longer waits between releases mean longer cycles of uninterrupted development, with all the dev flexibility that comes with it. We'd get a bunch of tiny features but all the big ones would take longer to come out.

I don’t think they should break mods every month with small updates but 3 years is insane. A healthy medium of maybe every year would good for everyone. Just my opinion

@holymegadave

Ай бұрын

They want to do everything Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead is doing but commercially.. development will never end.. an eternal alpha that will never get balanced or finished. They literally are copying CDDA.. but with isometric view and animations.

@alistersinclair4600

Ай бұрын

Last update was 1.5 years ago, not 3?

@kmoe2813

Ай бұрын

@@alistersinclair4600 it was 3 years from build 40 to 41 and now going on 2 years for build 42

@malcolmmorin

Ай бұрын

@@alistersinclair4600 Build 41 released in December 2021. That was the last major update.

@Ienteredmynamecorrectly-lt3nu

Ай бұрын

@@holymegadave At least CDDA has an experimental branch and multiple forks.

I still can’t get my port forwarding to work. Pretty sure it’s my isp provided router but idk much.

ngl... i was clinging to that 1st quarter comment. this one hurts a bit. would love to get back into PZ again. I'll keep waiting.

I will keep repeating this, the devs need to prioritize core elements of the game first, the game is already worth the money, completing it would be cool ... Lightning system? They can do that after implementing all the missing core elements like NPC.

@MrAtomicDuck

27 күн бұрын

Yeah we'll just get the people working on lighting and map design onto programming NPC's. I'm sure those skills are transferable, right?

@ABC-jg3pv

27 күн бұрын

@@MrAtomicDuck Yes, just like how the devs hired Aiterion, who was working on a PROMISING NPC mod and once he got hired they made him work on a fishing minigame, checkmate ;)

@bingobangobongo425

15 күн бұрын

@@ABC-jg3pvcoming out with the bantz 🍀🤞

I'm just worried that this update is going to be the way of things going forward. I understand they are working on a huge amount of things for this update, but things like NPC updates feel like they will be even bigger. How long can we expect the npcs updates to take? 3 years each? 4? If they are given this huge success with each huge update, it feels like they may just get bigger and bigger, and wait time longer and longer. They say alot of this is stuff that is needed for the npcs and alot of the systems are pretty complex in this current one but i just don't know if they have a huge grip on what all is going to be in each update. Scope creep seems kind of out of hand on an update to update basis.

@bingobangobongo425

Ай бұрын

The updates have basically been this way, it’s horrible. It’s not the way going forward, it’s the status quo.

@AbsoluteLambda

Ай бұрын

Look on the bright side, them making animals in build 42 only provides clearer framework into the future of zomboid with NPCs, build 42 is literally labeled in the roadmap as npcs version 1 or something. I think with each update and as that framework gets better, it'll hopefully shorten some wait, or take a load off the devs.

It's almost July 9th, 9 am.

Do you have any contact with indie stone developers or anyone social media wise, just wondering cause you seem like a great creator and a big influence for getting info out about updates and such and if they worked with you a lot of info could be given out to the player base or cleared up. Great video!

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

I talk with a few folks in the team from time to time :) I think it's important that I remain outside the team though. I'm a big supporter of theirs, but I have other interests in gaming and don't want to feel like I'm restricted or my opinions are "tainted" in any way by being part of the team directly.

@redlinerush6568

Ай бұрын

@@MrAtomicDuck Understandable, would be nice to create hype if you got a early build though! cant wait for the videos to come

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

I did a similar thing for Build 41's multiplayer, so I'd love the opportunity to play early, but that's up to the devs at the end of the day :) Fingers crossed.

I hope that The Indie Stone sticks to their guns and doesn't get discouraged about the interwebs losing their minds. Build good things - that's why the title is beloved.

@emptyforrest

Ай бұрын

yes and no. its been over 3 years since 41. they need to make a change in how they operate. 3 years for a major update to game still in EA is not ok imo. i want it to be properly baked but there needs to be balance. either cut the update into smaller pieces so we actually get stuff regularly.

@voxii_13

Ай бұрын

@@emptyforrest Exactly. 3 years is alpha stage for a brand new AAA title game. All we are getting this update is a few animals, new crafting rework, and engine changes. that's it.

@shumpiremadness2372

Ай бұрын

​@@emptyforrestI mean, I'd wait however long the devs need to push out an amazing update rather than rush.

@BoyBacon5051

Ай бұрын

​@@voxii_13This is not a AAA game. This is an indie game. They don't have the resources to deliver updates as fast as you want.

@voxii_13

Ай бұрын

@@BoyBacon5051 Please go do your research. I did it for you in another comment on this video, I suggest you go find it. I believe it was 127.4 million dollars they have made in copies sold. they have enough to expand and hire devs, they refuse to do so. 3 YEARS is too long. indie game studios put out 3 month patch cycles OFTEN. and they are JUICY in content. No excuses.

as a tf2 fan im just glad indie stone talks to the zomboid community

@genericdevtexture3661

Ай бұрын

Same tf2 fan here aswell. I'd wish we'd also get monthly blog posts about major updates coming 🥲

It takes as long as it takes . Really looking forward to it though. Fanx for the vid. Chill mate.

@madaime3562

Ай бұрын

they're are alot of people theorizing and assuming its gonna be coming out in July 30 idk tho but i also believe this considering the amount of progress they're doing

hey funking up is ok it happens that you made a point to bring it up and own it i respect that

I joined this community in November of '23, so I know no better than to wait. Honestly, I prefer they take their time, it's not like the game is unplayable, far from it. Hell, I'm playing it right now and having a fantastic time 😆 All that's to say, I'm not worried.

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Good stuff. As long as you're enjoying yourself that's all that really matters!

It happens man, I was all over the place trying to track down info about Silksong forever, development can take a while.

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Appreciate the understanding and support :)

Glad to finally see my ducks mod show up in a video. Made that mod for my now GF and we laying on the couch watching your vid and I saw them and yelled "Babe!!! My ducks!!" 😂

@MrAtomicDuck

Ай бұрын

Haha! We run it on our multiplayer server every month :D