It's time to replace my 300 Blackout brass

A quick discussion on 300 Blackout brass life and a look at some new Gemtech brass.
UPDATED 09/27/2018 - All links have been removed to comply with KZread content policies.
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  • @mattlord2906
    @mattlord29067 жыл бұрын

    also with everglades ammo, you should watch the credit card you used. the first time I was not sure if it was their security because I used my card with other vendors. this time I used a new card and only bought one thing which was the 300 blackout brass. few days later someone was buying I tunes. 14 diffrent transactions. I guess family owned business don't have the same security as a large online store would

  • @JohnnysReloadingBench

    @JohnnysReloadingBench

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've been down that road a couple times before. I will keep a close eye on my card! Thanks for the warning!

  • @havocsquad1

    @havocsquad1

    7 жыл бұрын

    If your credit card company gives you the option/feature, you may consider using their online generated temporary credit cards that allow you to specify a total hard limit on the amount charged, a much shorter expiration date that can be changed by you, and it does not use your physical credit card number. A good idea for use on uncertain single transaction credit card payments. The only problem with these temporary credit cards, is you probably can't associate them with 3rd party payment companies (Paypal, ApplePay, AndroidPay, etc.) where the credit card number and account is scrutinized to avoid fake or temporary credit cards that might be bogus.

  • @EvergladesAmmo

    @EvergladesAmmo

    6 жыл бұрын

    Matt, Please know that data and credit card security are very important to us. We can’t afford to lose the trust of our customers, many of whom are very loyal and long-term customers. To this end, we do not store credit card data on any of our electronic systems. This data is immediately handed off to our card processor and not retained by us. We tried to reach out to you via email to find out more information about your concerns and provide a detailed explanation of the security practices we employ to keep all of our customer data safe. We did not hear back from you. To sum up what we sent you, we are not aware of any data breach in our systems. Additionally, if this were to occur, there is no stored card data to be compromised. The two transactions you referenced were over a year apart so it may be hard to draw an accurate conclusion as to how your data was compromised, especially considering all of the well-publicized data breaches of large companies that do store card data. If you would like to follow up with us on this, please reply to the email we sent you or contact us so we can discuss the issue. Thank you, EvergladesAmmo.com

  • @geraldbondoc5974
    @geraldbondoc59747 жыл бұрын

    Suggestion: Instead of throwing them away or recycling them, you should frame small batches & send them to your loyal viewers, subscribers, etc. I feel like we have a great JRB family here!

  • @Thorsaxe777
    @Thorsaxe7777 жыл бұрын

    If you don't mind, I would like to say something in the passing of the 300 Blackout unit. Genltilman, Some were injured beyond help, some were just plain lost, However, countless campaigns and the repatriation of much empty ammo boxes they will live on forever in these videos, many battles were fought in Mass confusion, However, they served with dignity and respect to their missions. truly a unit remembered in our history and we salute their service.

  • @Thorsaxe777

    @Thorsaxe777

    7 жыл бұрын

    Johnny, One thing you have to watch for is the dinging or Gooners that you get on the necks, that will create at a fold in the brass, a weakening by work hardening. Sort of like folding a thin piece of sheet metal over and over till it brakes in half. this mostly happens on ejection and the brass hitting the side of the receiver .45 auto is famous for this. Just some advice, However, there isn't much you can do about it. Dave.

  • @AgileK9TopDog

    @AgileK9TopDog

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thorsaxe777 You can get rid of that on 45 ACP brass by opening up the ejection port. On the AR platform in 300 BLK, I've noticed that if you get the gas right the dings go away. I never see them on subsonic rounds.

  • @FortuneCookie45LC
    @FortuneCookie45LC7 жыл бұрын

    That brass did serve well though...long live the new brass..!!

  • @deanmoloney5059
    @deanmoloney50593 жыл бұрын

    I realize this is an old video but I converted random 223 /556 brass into 300 blk and primer pockets were the first failures for me. All supersonic ammo and I pushed it fairly hard , I did have a few neck splits. I did anneal regularly every other firing and the case life was around 15 loadings . Enjoy your video's and your own spin on things . Keep up the good work and happy new year

  • @mattlord2906
    @mattlord29067 жыл бұрын

    I bought the same brass, they did not look sparkling clean new like some others, but I am getting ready to load, made my first dummy load for OAL using your method of cutting the case head putting the bullet partially it and sliding into my PSA rifle.

  • @nycreloader
    @nycreloader7 жыл бұрын

    Johnny I'm a longtime fan of your videos and would never say my system is better than anyone else's but I anneal every other reload time before reloading. So far I've reloaded my original 1000 lake city 5.56 once fired brass cut downs to 300 blackout rounds over 20 times. So they have been annealed ten times and still show no serious wear. If I start to get some neck cracks I'll report back. Keep these video's coming.

  • @gtcam723
    @gtcam7232 жыл бұрын

    Your voice reminds me of a supervisor I had at a big airplane company.

  • @m96jay
    @m96jay7 жыл бұрын

    I'm so looking forward to seeing some testing with that barrel. Same one I put in my my sbr. I haven't done any accuracy testing yet. Just have a red dot on right now.

  • @o2wow
    @o2wow7 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like you got pretty good service from that original lot of brass. It may have lasted longer with periodic annealing, but IMO, the balance of time/labor/costs favor replacement brass over and price of an annealing machine and the time to run brass through the machine.

  • @plow9133
    @plow91337 жыл бұрын

    as a Soldier from way back in the 80s, when I heard taps I want to stand and salute, sorry to hear about your brass

  • @tjarmand
    @tjarmand5 жыл бұрын

    lololol love your videos man I really do I watch them a lot while reloading lol

  • @jonjames4281
    @jonjames42817 жыл бұрын

    I got 1000 gemtech cases from everglade and found them to be outstanding, around 10 pieces with slightly dented necks. (maybe the packaging) Much nicer than the 1000 pieces of LC converted I bought. No doubt the case flaring is the primary cause of the neck splitting. Annealing them will prolong the life and is easy to do but at 10+ firings anyway, who cares.

  • @jacobywestern
    @jacobywestern7 жыл бұрын

    I was sure you were going to show Starline's new offering of 300BLK brass. Thanks for sharing that Gemtech brass is good quality.

  • @JohnnysReloadingBench

    @JohnnysReloadingBench

    7 жыл бұрын

    I will eventually get some Starline to test. No doubt about it.

  • @johnbarton1878
    @johnbarton18784 жыл бұрын

    I was having the same problem converting LC 7.62 to 6.5 creedmoor . Started using my AMP to annel, problem solved. Now if I could figure out how to save my primer pockets. Lol.💥

  • @archersfriend
    @archersfriend7 жыл бұрын

    Starline makes 300 BO stamped as such, not from 223 brass. After making 300 BO from LC brass and all the trouble and time, I found the Starline and solved the problem. I think your problem is making your own. When I was shooting IHMSA with 7mm TCU, I made it from 223 brass and I had short brass life.

  • @4x4le
    @4x4le7 жыл бұрын

    I personally would save them to load one last time and use as "throw away" brass. I would use them for training classes or hunting or just in the event you want to shoot somewhere that picking them back up would be a hassle. Hell, if you dont want to do that let me know how much you need for shipping and I will make use of it and give it one more time out.

  • @legendsofabhaile
    @legendsofabhaile7 жыл бұрын

    they will be missed

  • @agrippa2k469
    @agrippa2k4697 жыл бұрын

    Surprisingly "new brass" is 1.358, and doesn't get longer when resized (before loading). Best practice is to resize to 1.365 after first firing (not to resize back down to 1.358). Subsequent firings will stay at the correct size (check 'em anyway). Factory ammo tends to be at SAAMI spec 1.368. For consistent loads longer is better for neck tension. However you will need to use an adjustable case length tool like the Lee Quick Trim.

  • @apneaman3084
    @apneaman30847 жыл бұрын

    After 2 yrs. (15? reloads) of mixed 223/5.56 brass and all supersonic from 110gr. to 165gr. I am just now starting to see neck cracks. I have some 300blk brass from store bought remington ammo with very loose primer pockets.

  • @cpt429
    @cpt4297 жыл бұрын

    I have not experienced split legs in my 300 Blackout brass converted from LC /Federal /WCC/ PMC with no annealing only loose primer pockets about 10 -13 loadings of super with 150 fmj and speer 125 gr tnt. keep up the good work brother

  • @AgileK9TopDog

    @AgileK9TopDog

    7 жыл бұрын

    cpt429 How do you like the TNT bullets?

  • @cpt429

    @cpt429

    7 жыл бұрын

    AgileK9TopDog fairly accurate about 1 1/2 MOA at 100 out out of my rifle 14.5 1 in 7 pistol gas out of my 7.62x40wt sub moa form bulk pack, 500 it's pretty accurate inexpensive bullet

  • @huntfishcreatehenrich4602
    @huntfishcreatehenrich46027 жыл бұрын

    If there is no tear in your eye, you have no heart.

  • @Bob-hh1it
    @Bob-hh1it6 жыл бұрын

    New to reloading how many times can I reload supersonic safely? I do know to look for damage on the cases but needing a safe reload count

  • @dans5534
    @dans55344 жыл бұрын

    I know im 2 years late, but...Im sorry for your loss.

  • @SAColicious85
    @SAColicious857 жыл бұрын

    About time you move to a 1:7 twist.

  • @elwhastrummer
    @elwhastrummer3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, and that's nothing bad to say about Everglades, either. I've bought .223, 9mm, and .308 bullets from them, they are awesome and really well priced.

  • @zacharyroach1990
    @zacharyroach19907 жыл бұрын

    you definitely got you efforts worth out of that converted stuff, that is for sure.

  • @martinandrews8496
    @martinandrews8496 Жыл бұрын

    I'm fuckin crying over here. I've gotta go home and sgow my brass more appreciation and love for them. I've been taken it for granted

  • @Boringunguy
    @Boringunguy3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t do anything but cut, prep and load. I get about 10 loadings out of supers. Subs have not seen any case issues yet.

  • @hkmp5kpdw
    @hkmp5kpdw7 жыл бұрын

    Have you tested the 125 SMK HP(2121) with 296 for 300BO?

  • @elwhastrummer
    @elwhastrummer3 жыл бұрын

    I know this video is a few years old. Still, hard to believe the condition of that "brand new" brass. I just bought (6/2021) 250 pieces of brand new Starline 300AAC brass, for $57.00+ shipping. It came in a baggie, in a box, shipped from Missouri to NW Washington. Every piece is perfect, clean, round...could probably just load it up and shoot it, even though I will resize it regardless. And 300AAC brass is HARD to come by right now.

  • @reelamor9950
    @reelamor99507 жыл бұрын

    I purchased 1000 300bo brass from Everglades and did'nt have an issue from my card until. 3 months later with iTunes . Didn't tie the 2 together , I will keep an eye out next order . I do like the brass they provided . Thank you for the heads up. I have the LC reformed and love it, may order another batch from them.

  • @blackbirdtactics8250
    @blackbirdtactics82507 жыл бұрын

    Not sure if you already have a video on this or not, but as someone who is about to get into reloading, it would be awesome to have a video of what's considered "normal" wear on brass and what shouldn't be reloaded. When I pick up my brass at the range and it has certain marks or dings, I often wonder if it would be alright to reload it or not. Just a thought. Thanks for the awesome videos.

  • @dvfd1874
    @dvfd18747 жыл бұрын

    FYI starline has 300 blackout brass now its a little more expensive but I'm sure it will be better.

  • @ZERO_42069

    @ZERO_42069

    7 жыл бұрын

    Daryl Guyton starline is great brass i have some of their 10mm brass

  • @madreamer
    @madreamer4 жыл бұрын

    I think grade 2 is converted and then once fired as 300 AAC

  • @chrislg1957ilovespam
    @chrislg1957ilovespam4 жыл бұрын

    Would it have helped to anneal the necks every 4 or 5 firings ???

  • @randlecarr3257

    @randlecarr3257

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s my question too

  • @avidhuntr
    @avidhuntr7 жыл бұрын

    R.I.P lake city brass, I'm sure you did well with JRB on the the trigger. Thanks for sharing JRB. When's the next live KZread event gonna be?

  • @kipkleimenhagen8434
    @kipkleimenhagen84347 жыл бұрын

    JRB have you tried Starline's 300 brass? I've had nothing but good luck with their pistol brass.

  • @JohnnysReloadingBench

    @JohnnysReloadingBench

    7 жыл бұрын

    That was my original plan. I couldn't wait any longer so I went another direction. I am a big fan of their brass and I am certain the 300 BLK will be a winner! The gemtech is a good bit cheaper, though.

  • @iinRez
    @iinRez7 жыл бұрын

    Is there no company out there that'll buy or take brass to melt it down again?

  • @rogerkk4znuraywwf396
    @rogerkk4znuraywwf3966 жыл бұрын

    Just ordered some from midway on sale for 77 bucks for 500 rd.

  • @eagleviewhd
    @eagleviewhd4 жыл бұрын

    I have 1000 fully converted 300 AAC Blackout cases available. They were converted from .223/5.56 and are polished, formed, and measured to make sure they meet SAMMI specs. Lots of Lake City cases. Anyone looking for some at a great price?

  • @TrevorSpencer
    @TrevorSpencer7 жыл бұрын

    Is the 110 Tac-TX from Barnes still the king of the hill for personal defense in 300 blackout?

  • @JohnnysReloadingBench

    @JohnnysReloadingBench

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I would say so. The 110 Tac-TX, the 120 Tac-TX and the 115gr Lehigh Controlled Chaos Copper would be my first recommendations. The Lehigh is half the cost of the Barnes bullets, though! If you are worried about too much penetration with those bullets, I would consider the varmint bullets in that weight class like the 110gr V-Max/Z-Max and the 125gr Speer TNT. They would expand a bit more explosively.

  • @johnblood3731
    @johnblood37312 жыл бұрын

    HOW ABOUT triming them to 380 acp length and see if they work out? just a thought.

  • @doubledranch871
    @doubledranch8715 жыл бұрын

    No need to totally retire them. They can still serve a while longer. When my 223/556 get neck cracks, but otherwise OK, it becomes 300 BLK. When the 300 BLK gets neck cracks, it continues life as 7.63x25. My Tokarev is very pleased with the "Hand Me Downs"........... Now that's true "recycling". If only the TOK cases with cracked necks could be cut down for another caliber!

  • @doubledranch871

    @doubledranch871

    5 жыл бұрын

    OOPS. 7.62x25!! Darn keyboard keeps moving the keys................

  • @lushdog1984
    @lushdog19844 жыл бұрын

    Guess you didnt anneal the brass after you trimmed and sized it. That would ahve made them last alot longer along with periodic annealing.

  • @skepticalshooter3499
    @skepticalshooter34997 жыл бұрын

    Have you considered the "M Die" expanding plugs that NOE sells for use in the Lee Univ Expander? I wonder if they aren't gentler on the brass.

  • @TwistedMetalsOfTexas
    @TwistedMetalsOfTexas7 жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @leb900
    @leb9007 жыл бұрын

    Have you reloaded 225 gr Hornady ELD? If so what seating depth have you gone with? I'm having issues with getting it to cycle properly. My first loads were 8.5 gr of lil gun at 2.250" they would fire but not cycle the bolt far enough back to chamber another round. So my second try was 9 gr of 2.250" and they would cycle each round perfect just not lock back when empty. I'm running a 10.5" barrel AR pistol. Pistol length gas system. My next try was going to be 9 gr of lil gun at 2.240" and try that. My issue here is I want reliable function without going into super sonic loads. My first load of 8.5 at 2.250 was spitting out an average of 1092 FPS...

  • @AgileK9TopDog

    @AgileK9TopDog

    7 жыл бұрын

    Gunman1500 Have you tried Hornaday 208 gr? They are reported to be (and in my experience are) too weak to cycle or lock back. Of all the things I tried nothing worked to give me both super and sub unsuppressed function until I checked my has port size. It was just too small. On a short barrel (under 10") with pistol length gas you need .105" to get enough gas for unsuppressed subsonic function. Not just my experience. Others have published studies on gas port sizes vs has length / dwell time.

  • @leb900

    @leb900

    7 жыл бұрын

    AgileK9TopDog I've tried and I'm still testing the Hornady 208 gr. My next move is to seat them deeper. I'm working with 9 grains of H110 at 2.250 seems like the subs at the book recommended seating depth don't want to work at least with trying to keep them under the 1100 mark. I'm running a suppressor on the gun so I'm sure they won't function proper without it on either. So my next round of test loads (maybe tomorrow if I can get time) for 208 will be 9.1 grains of H110 at 2.240" medium crimp. And see how that functions. And then for the 225 grain bullets I'm gonna use 9.1 grains of lil gun at 2.240 and see how this goes.

  • @AgileK9TopDog

    @AgileK9TopDog

    7 жыл бұрын

    I haven't reloaded any subs yet but all the feedback is that you need to use Accurate 1680 for subs to function. The fast pistol powders just aren't optimum for subs even though they work great on supers. But check that gas port.

  • @leb900

    @leb900

    7 жыл бұрын

    AgileK9TopDog yeah I'll look at that gas port. I've heard 1680 is the way to go but I haven't been able to find it where I live. So I try to use what we have over here. And I'm not really wanting to order online and pay hazard fee

  • @OzarkSpirit
    @OzarkSpirit7 жыл бұрын

    Try annealing the old brass and see how the necks soften.

  • @JohnnysReloadingBench

    @JohnnysReloadingBench

    7 жыл бұрын

    The old brass is probably already compromised so I doubt annealing would bring it back to life. I think I will occasionally anneal this new batch, though...now that I know how long my first batch lasted I've got something to compare with.

  • @blancs3030
    @blancs30307 жыл бұрын

    Alot of my gemtech 300 brass needed to be trimmed too

  • @JohnnysReloadingBench

    @JohnnysReloadingBench

    7 жыл бұрын

    I will keep an eye out for long ones. Thanks.

  • @blancs3030

    @blancs3030

    7 жыл бұрын

    I found out after I loaded them. They wouldn't load in my bolt gun. I didnt check how they would do in the AR platform

  • @blancs3030

    @blancs3030

    7 жыл бұрын

    Big fan your channel. You need to do yourself a favor and get a 300 bolt. With it being suppressed it's my favorite gun to shoot. Shooting it at 400 yards steel, it's just so quiet.

  • @ghostshadow9046
    @ghostshadow90467 жыл бұрын

    if you anneal your brass every so often it lasts longer before you will get any cracks in the necks.

  • @dugger-zm9ij
    @dugger-zm9ij5 жыл бұрын

    Just found you and subbed. I have reloaded various calibers of rifle/pistol since the 70s. I noticed in your section on the LakeCity conversion brass, you didn't mention annealing the brass after so X number of reloads, which is actually a good idea for reloading. You did mention that you didn't keep track of how many reloads they got so... I guess it's a wash but being a roll your own guy you know this already. Thanks for good vids.

  • @tylers.4506
    @tylers.45067 жыл бұрын

    Rest in Pieces Lake City Brass. I like the GemTech brass. I have about 100 pieces of it from factory loads my buddies bought to shoot out of my gun. Did you ever anneal your Lake City Brass? I am at about 14-15 reloads with some of my LC converted brass, with no detrimental signs of wear. I was thinking about going ahead and trying to anneal them before I toss them out.

  • @JohnnysReloadingBench

    @JohnnysReloadingBench

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure I did anneal them right after they were formed. I don't know if I did it correctly, but at least I didn't harm them.

  • @sololukmanchannel4578
    @sololukmanchannel4578 Жыл бұрын

    Show me how to make those brass tubes, sir

  • @captainpegs0740
    @captainpegs07407 жыл бұрын

    I thought Lake City was the thickest brass around. What brass is to be avoided?

  • @AgileK9TopDog

    @AgileK9TopDog

    7 жыл бұрын

    Captainpegs07 LC brass is AOK for 300 BLK. Take a look at this page for brass too thick for 300 BLK. www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88599

  • @morganlove4379
    @morganlove43794 жыл бұрын

    I had primer pockets become to large. Made a pocket checker with a cleaned out primer an bolt / j b weld. I don’t like taking the chance finding loose primers and powder in the action.

  • @minutemanqvs
    @minutemanqvs7 жыл бұрын

    Hum annealing looks just fine on your video.

  • @makodra
    @makodra7 жыл бұрын

    Did you anneal the brass?

  • @JohnnysReloadingBench

    @JohnnysReloadingBench

    7 жыл бұрын

    One time immediately after forming. Nothing since.

  • @shanescott3168

    @shanescott3168

    7 ай бұрын

    @@JohnnysReloadingBench It would have been good if you mentioned the converted brass had been annealed after forming. I was thinking the unannealed brass lasted a long time and was considering converting my own but don't have an annealer.

  • @geraldf.1222
    @geraldf.1222 Жыл бұрын

    MAYBE ANNEALING AFTER EVERY 3RD LOADING WOULD EXTEND CASE LIFE?

  • @mikestennett6495
    @mikestennett64952 жыл бұрын

    All that brass would have been great for 7.62x25 conversion.

  • @marvinbrock960
    @marvinbrock9607 жыл бұрын

    .277 Wolverine... please give it a few minutes of your time. Same as 300 BO process, more shoulder, more velocity, wayyy more accuracy.

  • @benjaminnevins5211
    @benjaminnevins52116 жыл бұрын

    The Fiocchi (GFL) 308 brass is the worst I've ever seen for off-center flash holes. Really annoying if you are trying to use a lee trimmer.

  • @FT4Freedom
    @FT4Freedom6 жыл бұрын

    Blackout gets less stress than 5.56.

  • @kttatortots4293
    @kttatortots42937 жыл бұрын

    Hey I can I get some help from someone? I'm looking at getting my very first reloading book (YAY!!!!!!) soon but I don't know which would be good for a newbie. I will be using it for .308win and .30-06 at first and then .223. I will be wanting to try out different brands' of bullets if that makes a difference.

  • @JohnnysReloadingBench

    @JohnnysReloadingBench

    7 жыл бұрын

    +patton guy All of the major bullet makers have good manuals. They include sections at the front that cover the process of reloading in very good detail. Since you are loading for very common calibers and nothing weird, they will all have extensive load data. You will also find a metric shit ton of data on the powder manufacturers' websites. My suggestions would be Hornady, Lee, Sierra, Nosler, Or Lyman...in that order.

  • @kttatortots4293

    @kttatortots4293

    7 жыл бұрын

    Johnny's Reloading Bench ok THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!!!! I will check out my local store and see what they have of those. THANK YOU!

  • @JamesSmith-su3oz
    @JamesSmith-su3oz3 жыл бұрын

    Yes im late with this comment but y not covert the cases to 9mm? They should some life left.

  • @traviscarter9300

    @traviscarter9300

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've never heard of this converting 300 to 9. I will have to research this. 👍

  • @paul36420
    @paul364207 жыл бұрын

    I don't think you should played Taps for brass.

  • @No1JetDoc

    @No1JetDoc

    6 жыл бұрын

    I agree. Not appropriate. Think of the many who have listened to Taps and jumped at the crack of the 21 gun salute as their friends or family members were buried. Not cool.

  • @FT4Freedom

    @FT4Freedom

    6 жыл бұрын

    Taps is beautiful in its own right. Who cares when it's played.

  • @woodysapper7

    @woodysapper7

    6 жыл бұрын

    When TAPS was played I though of the 500+ funerals that I have had to present the FLAG to there Love ones....

  • @danielbromley1410

    @danielbromley1410

    5 жыл бұрын

    I agree - just not the place and time.

  • @backlash00
    @backlash002 жыл бұрын

    Taps for brass! Shame on you.