It’s Not Looking Good for Ellie | The West Wing
“See the doctor, get a lollipop.”
Season 2 Episode 15: Ellie
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When Josh said...."You serve at the pleasure of The President"....The Good Doctor did not hesitate when she said I will continue to serve until I am fired! Game Set Match
Reminds me of Dr. Joycelyn Elders, Surgeon General during the Clinton administration. She was also outspoken about drug legalization and sex education, and was later forced to resign.
Medicine and science should never, EVER, be at the mercy of politics.
When C. Everett Koop was the surgeon general in Ronald Reagan's administration conservatives pressured him to say that abortion represented a serious risk to the health of women. Putting aside his personal beliefs as a conservative he refused to do so because it was not medically true. Wow the polling changed on the legalization of marijuana since this episode first aired. It is legal and easily to obtain here in Canada. There is a cannabis shop around the corner from my home. I don't use the stuff, but I'm agnostic about the subject.
@AJ-sm1cm
Ай бұрын
What does believing that nothing can be known about god have to do with weed?
@seanwebb605
Ай бұрын
@@AJ-sm1cm You are confused.
@kenle2
Ай бұрын
@@seanwebb605 Somebody is.
@seanwebb605
Ай бұрын
@@kenle2 Okay then.
@StumpyVanLife
Ай бұрын
@@AJ-sm1cm While the main definition of Agnostic applies to Religion , an alternate definition does exist. 2 : a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something political agnostics
sorkin centrism in just over 4.5 minutes!
Medical Marijuana Legalization: Beginning with California in 1996, numerous states have passed laws permitting the use of marijuana for medical purposes. As of now, a majority of states have some form of medical marijuana program. Recreational Marijuana Legalization: Colorado and Washington became the first states to legalize recreational marijuana in 2012. Since then, several other states, including California, Oregon, Nevada, Michigan, and more, have followed suit. Decriminalization: Many states have moved to decriminalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana, reducing or eliminating criminal penalties. At the time the episode "The Warfare of Genghis Khan" aired on February 11, 2004, the stance on marijuana in the United States was significantly more conservative compared to today.
@SiavashAgharazi
Ай бұрын
I believe this episode called "Ellie" and it's from season 2, which would have aired in 2001
@seanwebb605
Ай бұрын
Medical marijuana was sort of a misnomer. Just as there is little evidence to suggest that Refer Madness was credible there is also very little evidence that marijuana has any real medicinal applications. At best a mild pain reliever that can help increase appetite. With many viable alternatives. But it is relatively harmless, people were doing it anyway and now there is little moral stigma associated with using it here in Canada. People want it and I don't care much either way. Obviously it was a mistake to lock people up for small quantities.
@B2Roland
Ай бұрын
It literally says what episode this is from in the description... What kind of shitty bot are you?
@petera4985
Ай бұрын
@@SiavashAgharazi well corrected
@cf_spacetime
Ай бұрын
And would you look at that, the stance in the medical community is pretty much exactly the same 20 years later. What's that conservative phrase? Facts don't care about your feelings?
Good for the SG refusing to resign. Not all things are about politics.
@seanwebb605
Ай бұрын
Later in the episode she resigned.
@untexan
Ай бұрын
@@seanwebb605And Bartlet refused to accept it
It's now making sense.
Mary Kay Place rocks!
The source episode for the key line from Hamilton: “So long as you come home at the end of the day, that would be enough”
The polls and politics have changed dramatically
Bob Marley and The Wailers
Times have changed
@oo7warrior
Ай бұрын
About time!!
This didn’t age well.
@NiceTryLaoChe
Ай бұрын
It was pretty silly at the time, too. I remember it.
@Bariom_dome
Ай бұрын
@@NiceTryLaoChe Well, the most vocal opponents of the policy at the time happened to make the biggest fuss about it. They were silly, but not unimportant.
@skribeworks
Ай бұрын
Neither did their stance on gays in the military. On some issues, the Bartlet admin was far more conservative than their real life equivalents.
@seanwebb605
Ай бұрын
Oh it has aged incredibly well. it's a really good time capsule for the issue and how it was being debated at the time.
@seanwebb605
Ай бұрын
@@skribeworks I would say that the administration was idealistic but pragmatic. They had an agenda and understood the obstacles in their way.
"The Allman Brothers, Josh" What?
@rocketman544
Ай бұрын
A reference to the top of the episode. Dr. Griffith was on an interview in which someone asked if Marijuana can cause cancer. She mentioned in her reply that he should 'put the bong back behind the Allman Brothers albums where it belongs.'
Whoof that didnt age well
the more i watch these reruns the more i realize what an abusive prick Sheen portrayed the president as. He comes in screaming at CJ and threatening people's careers instead of just asking "how did this happen?". actually the more i watch the reruns the more i see how deplorable some of these characters were. namely Josh and Tobey, they were smug self righteous condescending dbags
@SaiSivakumar
Ай бұрын
So... they were people?
@peters764
Ай бұрын
@@SaiSivakumar if that is your definition of a "person" I definitely don't want to meet the people you associate with
@SaiSivakumar
Ай бұрын
@@peters764 people aren’t whole perfect paragons of virtue…
@peters764
Ай бұрын
@@SaiSivakumar no but they also shouldn't be raving jerks who don't care how they treat people
@Dan210871
Ай бұрын
@@peters764 Are you always offended by the honest depiction of human behavior during stressful times? If this is not your speed, go find a re-run of Stairway to Heaven or something equally inane.
He is right though. She had no business commenting on laws
@raldenvcs
Ай бұрын
Why is that? Should experts in a field not be able to give their insight on legislation?
@MIGBMWLOVER
Ай бұрын
@@raldenvcsIs she part of a committee about the legalisation of said substance? No. She is the primary physician of the president of the USA . I am a legal expert but I don't open my mouth for medical issues unless I am employed as an expert on some sort of forum.
@seanwebb605
Ай бұрын
She was being asked direct questions about the relative harms of marijuana. She gave her expert opinion based on the best evidence of the time. She took no position regarding the law regarding possession, use or study of marijuana.
@varunhebli
Ай бұрын
@@raldenvcs qualifications in any field does not make you a scholar on public opinion and how that affects policies. You're a doctor, stick to just the medicine.
@kanderson-oo7us
Ай бұрын
@@MIGBMWLOVER The Surgeon General is *not* the "primary physician of the President". The Surgeon General is an official of the US Government, advising on & addressing health decisions. She wasn't Jed's doctor.
*"As a doctor I have an obligation to tell the truth..."* Someone should have told Fauci that.
@gheller2261
20 күн бұрын
Grow up. Stop with the nonsense.
@obbzerver
20 күн бұрын
@@gheller2261 Show us on this doll where the truth hurt you.
@diane8885
16 күн бұрын
He did. Some people are stupid. They think they know more then doctors. Like I said. Stupid people.
Due to their relationship Ellie did that for attention and got it.