By far the stupidest thing about German BBs in this game is that historically THEY WERE ACCURATE.

@solace6633

Жыл бұрын

Yes and no. They had very good comparative first accuracy however due to their rangefinders being so small, especially compared to Britian, they struggled at adjustments. So wargaming making them inaccurate is far more historically accurate than you think.

@Choukai_Chan

Жыл бұрын

​@@solace6633 Meanwhile Scharnhorst and Warspite share the longest ship to ship hit at a range of 24km. Warspite is accurate in the game,... while Scharnhorst is a tragedy for herself. Shows that some things aren't that accurate imo.

@yamazakinozaki9804

Жыл бұрын

@@Choukai_Chan because the devs are russian after all, maybe they are still angry at the germans.

@Riaining7

Жыл бұрын

@@yamazakinozaki9804 From what I understand, they "used" to be Russian, until they were disembarked over the whole Ukraine social justice stance. Probably one of the worst decisions they could have ever made. History will not be kind to people (and corporations) who make massive investments or divestments based on propaganda and fake news.

@derrickstorm6976

Жыл бұрын

​@@solace6633yea well there wouldn't be a Soviet tech tree either if we weren't picking and choosing historical accuracy

building the main German BB line for accuracy is probably better than building for secondaries these days anyways. if you want secondaries, the battlecruisers exist.

@AllAhabNoMoby

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Preussen especially has such excellent firing angles when kiting - which also makes her tanky - that it's a much more viable build.

@michaelray3865

Жыл бұрын

Strongly disagree. Skillful deployment and a little luck let’s me get in range to put the secondaries in action far more than I ever get out of the main battery. Plus, you put Lutyens in there…

@atpyro7920

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelray3865 see, the fun thing is that even i you don't build into them the secondaries are still decently long range and accurate, but you also get better accuracy on your main guns and better stealth to make getting into a position to use the secondaries easier and more common. it's part of why you build schlieffen for both stealth and secondaries. is it the same build as every other BB? sort of, but i haven't had anny issues or less fun running it like this.

@indigogorge3585

Жыл бұрын

(I am a fairly new player) I only use FdG for brawl, so should I build it for secondaries or main guns/accuracy or both (hybrid?) I also just got Preussen about 1 - 2 months ago, and I've only a few games with it. Could you perhaps give some tips on how to play her? And also some more important info on the build, etc. I'd really appreciate it!

@atpyro7920

Жыл бұрын

@@indigogorge3585 if you're only using it for brawls, then build it for secondaries. you'd drop concealment for manual secondaries and take long range secondaries with AR as your 3 pointers and put in the secondary mod in slot 3 instead of aiming systems. for randoms, you would build for accuracy. Aiming systems mod in slot 3, and a normal battleship build. what I do is I run steering gears instead of propulsion in slot 4, but that's mostly down to how you like to play it. captain build looks like PM/GF for 1 pt, GtG for 2, AR for 3, and conceal, fire prevention, and ERE for 4 points. I personally run brisk and PM for my last 3 points (i take both PM and GF), but most players will be better served taking basics for 3 points instead.

Thanks for committing to an honest and genuine representation of the game. I like that you don't complain the whole time, but you also show your frustrations and highlight what you don't like. You give a very holistic and genuine representation of warships showing the warts and the fun of the game. I appreciate that your stuff doesn't feel like click bait but legitimate content even if it's not always the best way to grow you channel. I appreciate your approach to this channel and the example you provide.

@Riaining7

Жыл бұрын

100% agree. This is why I follow and watch everything PQ puts out. He's pleasantly authentic to hear talk about the game we 'would' like to enjoy! :)

Love the Preussen. It was my second choice of BB after unlocking Vermont. It's better than people give it credit for. I think I'm going to have to give that 7% dispersion mod a try. Btw it was a pleasure playing with you today when you were in one of my games as you played VII Blyska; I was the CV Lexington. o7 keep the vids coming! Would love to see you play the IX Agir.

Its actually one of my highest performing bbs - 150k avg over 20 games. Idk if I got lucky in those games but the guns and tankiness are very good

@Brettcroese

Жыл бұрын

I build 0 for secondaries

@jackcasse

Жыл бұрын

I did a hybrid build. Averaging like 100k damage. Which is really good for me. I might respec, though. I feel like I hardly get into secondary range with her anyway. The 20 second reload with those big guns helps more in a close firefight anyway.

@Brettcroese

Жыл бұрын

@@jackcasse Ya the DPM with the guns is very impressive, totally worth to build into

@10kchallengewith0video

9 ай бұрын

​@@jackcassecan u pls share your build

The thing is: if your preussen isn't working it's because its a fundamentally different ship from the GK: my full tank accuracy (yeah yeah no sec fun I know) is actually working exceptionally well. It's a true flanker because with stealth and tankiness you can actually really annoy other teams

I can only repeat my recommendation to use the range mod combined with the accuracy mod in slot 3 to get better dispersion. Believe it or not, but it works. You wont get a long range sniper, but in the usual combat range of 15-22km it works fine (for me) Btw... it's not the same as using the spotter plane to increase the range. Also, usually shoot while you are angled and not in broadside. Not because of the enemy who would hit you less, but because your guns are closer together (/// /// better than ||| |||) because the ship length shortens in the firing direction when you angle. The value of dispersion is only a value when firing in 90° from your broadside and it shrinks, while you are firing from 45°. Well a native speaker could probably give a better description... As for the healing. You not only get a 5th heal, but also 10% more each heal. So instead of a potentially healing for 71008 (4x) you can potentially heal for 97636 (5x +10%) and that makes a difference. Especially with the Preussen, I had a lot games where I needed the 5th heal and the Preussen is also one of my better survival ships.

@Nitrecz

Жыл бұрын

Bro is a genius 💀

@kr4ftt

Жыл бұрын

at this point then why play preussen anyway? get a republique -.- it has tradeoffs, good armor for bad dispersion, if you are trying to add the range mod you are sacrificing what makes this ship good, good armor. Here PQ uses his armor the entire game, the first one he tanks the des memes and other bbs, the second one he tanks the invi because he's utilizing the best the ship has to offer, good overmatch and armor... adding range mod is just a waste of a perfect 21 sec cd

@zagareth4604

Жыл бұрын

​@@kr4ftt you get worse turret rotation and worse dispersion for only 3 seconds better reload, while you get more citadels during a battle with range mod, because you hit more accurate. All in all Im more satisfied with a range mod, than with reload. Range mod doesnt mean you have to be farther away from the action, BUT you can hit target farther away AND you hit closer targets with a little bit more accuracy

@kr4ftt

Жыл бұрын

@@zagareth4604 it's not more accurate, although it says it improves the acc, it's because of the added range, it was proven again and again that range mod does not improve the acc. The added acc is at range, not at all ranges, otherwise everyone would be using it don't you agree?

@zagareth4604

Жыл бұрын

@@kr4ftt what "everyone" forgets is, that the range improves, the cone of fire gets wider (dispersion value increases) BUT the sigma stays the same. In case of the Preussen, the dispersion goes up to 299m at 23.90km from 266m at 20.60km. In other words, at 23.9km it has a dispersion of 12.51m/km range and at 20.6km (w/o Range Mod) it has a dispersion of 12.91m/km range. So using the Range Mod decreases the dispersion from original 266m at 20.6km to 257.72m at 20.6km. So for those who don't know, it is more accurate at the same distance and w/ the same sigma. And now you know, why I use the Range Mod, while everyone else stays with the things other people recommend...

So, is it just me or do battleships, even ones like the Preussen with terrible accuracy seems to just get better grouping and accuracy when shooting destroyers? as a destroyer main, i find battleships are the ships that do the most dmg to me(in one hit).

@AdalbertSchneider_

Жыл бұрын

you are not alone. Its so obvious last more than a half a year to see, how better the dispersion against the smaller targets is.

@Flayrr872

Жыл бұрын

Yup, that's what I've experienced too as a BB player. Of course, you still can have awful shots, but I think on average salvos are more accurate against DD's

@Skerra-kk6sm

Жыл бұрын

Definitely. If I had the grouping I get against DDs, against BBs. I'd be getting insane damage.

@Sky_Guy

Жыл бұрын

You guys do realize that in cases when BBs are shooting DDs, you are often _literally closer_ to the target? That's why you feel it's "more accurate."

@franzhollywood

Жыл бұрын

@@Sky_Guy Don't burst their bubble ;)

Currently grinding for preussen, the tier 9 secondaries and tankiness are great but GOD DAMN the fiering angles are AWFUL even when kiting away.

@gothia1715

Жыл бұрын

FdG works quite well with maxed out rate of fire. 406 guns, 3 million reload mod, adrenaline rush and maybe even close quaters expert combined with a secondary/fire prevention build lets you shoot so often which makes up for the bad accuracy.

One question: what is the name of this mod on the left side which shows the angle of your ship an the target ship? Thx

Hey "Average quality potato", at 11:28ish the music sounded like the ending them of the old "British" TV show The Avengers.....thanks for the review....🏹🤠👍

I don't have a 21 pointer yet on Preussen but I will forego the secondaries and take the extra heal. Otherwise, perfect build for me.

what mods do you have? specifaically for the bottom left corner where it tells you angles of the ships

The ship that many players do not want to play. It's a pretty fun ship.

u either have good dispersion or good reload - u know if u keep throwing so much shit at the wall eventually some will stick

I believe they buffed the accuracy of this ship. Mine does quite well I have a main gun build tank build now. love the overmatch !

Slightly unrelated, but are you planning on doing a video on the Venezia leg-mod/UU?

I really like this ship. Better than GK for me. But it just doesnt fit this broken random meta.

Preussen charging cap point: Queue in "Erika"

Honestly this thing is way more manageable than Hannover. You can at least get out alive in Preussen, as seen with the first game, but Hannover, god you get killed on the turn out almost every time. you get even remotely stuck in Hannover its game over for you.

What crosshair are you using?

What sights are you using?

I see plenty of Schlieffens and GKs and almost 0 Preussens

@ihadalifeb4this241

Жыл бұрын

The extra guns on GK make it feel better than it actually is.

Played one game watched the shells completely miss at 5km sold it and stuck with my GK

haven't seen a good Georgia game in a while. What about a Georgia one take ?

what is the commander build?

Can someone tell what Mods does he use? The one with the teams and torp range from all the ships and the one with the angles?

@EvoraGT430

Жыл бұрын

Hakabase side panels and Battle Expert from Aslain's

Maybe it's because I don't actually know what I'm doing, that this is one of my better performing ships?

@Riaining7

Жыл бұрын

Watch PQ's Unicum aiming guide. It'll teach you a lot. You gotta confirm your aim on the mini map for every shot. Most people don't do that, and therefore are wildly inconsistent. His aiming guide is a Godsend. We're so blessed to have him share his knowledge and mastery.

@jackcasse

Жыл бұрын

@@Riaining7 I've watched it. It's the reason I use smart horizon. Really helps with leading long range targets. Never thought about "confirming" aim though. Probably why I seem to miss angled ships so much. I'll check it out.

@Riaining7

Жыл бұрын

@@jackcasse Yeah, I don't think he completely says how to use the bubble. But I have watched him play enough and pay attention to how he aims his shots, to see that he's basically using the bubble to aim at the line of the target-locked ship, or he moves it just above that line or below, depending whether the ship is turning out, or turning in. Hope it helps improve your aim. It did for me. Though there are still aiming bugs in the game where shots fall short on broadside targets.. those inconsistencies in the game really suck.

"he should die" Ha Nope that doesn't happen anymore

The standard matches don’t really lend themselves to Preussen’s strengths. Really good in Convoy or airship escort.

Can you play the Congress?

I have the feeling that this build is a bit of a Ohio cosplay^^

One thing I love about American BBs, is that I can still get secondaries to full ranges without losing accuracy. Longer range secondaries really keeps some open water gun boat dds always.

literally just finished the FdG grind (for the second time) so this is quite timely.

Great vid.

8:07 The level of irony of complaining about the dispersion then hitting 6 of 8 shells at 18km. Real talk though, German dispersion is actually not that bad, it's basically American/French Dispersion, it's only really the Sigma pattern that's bad, and even then it can be worked with. Most people just forgo the dispersion mod in slot 3 and thus have a 7% disadvantage over French BBs, and a 11% disadvantage over T9+ American BBs. It's also very much a mental thing where everyone is convinced German dispersion is bad, so when you have normal hit rates it feels bad, but then people go on about how accurate the American BBs before T9 are even though they are working with the same dispersion as a secondary build German BB. Honestly these days the German BBs aren't even all that bad, 1.8 sigma the entire line meaning once you learn the accuracy you have it figured out, and with the American dispersion and dispersion mod it makes them actually decently consistent main gun ships. Though the temptation is always there to run them as secondary boats because of the enhanced secondaries. At this point I'd almost call the secondaries a noob trap.

@clmwrx

19 күн бұрын

German ships are kind of noob traps in general lol

What graphics card do you have?

@someoneoutthere3476

Жыл бұрын

intergrated graphics lol

Toxic chat is awful in this game. Coop is nice sometimes =)

The dispersion on this ship is utter trash. At like 8km i get 3 hits out of 8 guns...

SHELLBACK_2 is second LOL

that johan got deleted two times over poor thing

I really need to start grinding Freddy again. The ship looks fun but I'm still a BB player who likes to push in. Haven't played in a while, and I mean a while. This stay back meta is just so boring in my opinion. I guess I'm just not tactical...

Doesn't have good dispersion... Going back to watch yuro who lazer fired the preussen

I only get citadels in this ship when my aim is garbage.

me when commnenting

lmao 27:57 chat

Should report the border huggers using it to fk over the games aim system etc.

I bet 94% of the people youre playing against dont even know you...

I can't believe there's someone who thinks heal buff in Armsrace is worth anything Though he used hydro after eating torps so what do I know

@clmwrx

19 күн бұрын

Heal buffs in arms race are great. Especially for dds that don't have heals normally

I don't get why WG did the German BB's like this. Irl the Bismarck was actually one of the most accurate rapid firing ship of it's time, so this dispersion on German BBs I don't get, especially if they want to be historically accurate.

@ryanbrochu3336

Жыл бұрын

It's because WG is a Belarus/Russian company and they hate the Germans.Granted, they wanted to make German BB's different, the game was much younger when the German BB's were introduced, back when WG actually kinda cared about game balance. So they created a line of brawling BB's with solid secondaries. They then "balanced" it by making the main guns terrible, because we can't have ships that are effective at all ranges. Then, when the player base DARED to make German BB's popular with secondary builds, they punished us by creating ships that exploited German weaknesses (HE spam) and nerfing secondary effectiveness.

@Cesp43

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanbrochu3336 in other words German ships too op must be nerfed for game balance

@Sfirodrepanoskarxarias

Жыл бұрын

@@Cesp43 No, just a balancing issue. German bbs were supposed to close in, use their good hull armor and their secondaries to brawl at medium-close ranges. At 11-12 km you don't really need great dispertion. The problem is that brawling as a concept in the current state of the game is problematic. German BBs have been powercreeped by other , newer ships, not to mention CVs or subs that make pushing even at mid game extremely risky, even for Kremlins (to address the silly "Russians hate Germans" argument. Anyway according to you people Russians hate everybody and their hatred is their only motive, so....yeah).

@Cesp43

Жыл бұрын

@@Sfirodrepanoskarxarias I agree. To add on one easy way to make German BB's great again would to give them great AA. Again using the Bismarck as an example, it was attacked by obsolete swordfish, planes which did not detonate the ammunition fire at them, and couldn't be tracked, and yet the guns on the Bismarck managed turn most away, some with severed damage and bullet holes in the hundreds breached the haul of the Biplanes. Giving it great AA would not only help with brawling as CV's are no longer a threat, it would also be historically accurate. Honestly WG seems to focus too much on new ships and not enough on how they will interact with the old.

@Sfirodrepanoskarxarias

Жыл бұрын

@@Cesp43 You should really, really stop using historical facts to judge a video game. Believe me, you wouldn't like a historicaly accurate game at all. It would be like a billion times worse than it is today and totally not fun or balanced, which are the 2 main things people should judge games by.

What I found is that basically i prefer to play FDG over the preussen. Both have amazing Hull armor, both have hydro, both have enormous superstructure which eats full pens etc. Preussen has just those 457 with overmatch, but what I found is that you won't overmatch what you won't hit and because those two have so bad dispersion i just don't see many instances when overmatch made me hit something- you just miss shells on angled targets, you still seek those juicy broadsides and for that 406 of FDG are enough and for me it's better to take IX place when you do the same that you would do as X

@suriles4652

Жыл бұрын

Most of what you've said here contradicts itself. The Preussen has 3m worse max dispersion, that is unnoticeable at range. If you want to be smashing broadsides, position better. Preussen's 457 can deal 15k dmg per citadel, FDG (With the 420s, why tf are you using the 406s?) can deal 13.5k dmg per citadel. In my opinion, tier 9 is the worst tier because you can still fight supershits as a bottom tier ship.

@Pentagram666mar

Жыл бұрын

​​@@suriles4652 i didn't say FDG is more accurate, but basically when you position to smash broadsides it pretty similar when you play FDG and Preussen. Ofc tier IX is worse, but you take queue spot of IX not X and if you still need to push in right time, catch broadsides and you can do it with your IX and X similarly, for me it's better to take tier IX, but maybe it's only me... moreover both of them die mostly because of HE spam, as fire is percentage based i really don't feel preussen to be that much tankier too. Last thing, being the lowest tier only pushes you to seek good opportunities, i fall for being too aggressive in preussen. Plus sometimes you end in tier VII game and then in FDG it's basically smashing W whole game. P.S. 406 has lower reload time, better guns

Like Flamu said, the game seems to shit itself, if you have double-barrelled guns. guess what all german bb/bc get?

German battleships have exactly the same dispersion as the American and British, and slightly better than Italian and French. 1.8 sigma sits in the middle of the pack too.

That incomparable at the 2nd game. I bet his stat is below 45% and maybe only 35k avg

You STILL can't play a game without crying! 🤣🤣🤣

First

I would like to watch your video but there are too many commercials now.

What panels are you using? the autospy ones stopped working

@EvoraGT430

Жыл бұрын

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