Love your channel bro! My brother used to street stock and my uncle Bob Bradford from Tomball, TX, he still roundeerounds. Anyway, if your car runs hot without the thermostat, put a restricter in it, or even knock the center out of an old thermostat, something to slow down the flow and let the radiator work. Keep on keeping on my friend.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Go to a place that sales hydraulic hoses. Get either the green stripe or red stripe. Yes, use a hydraulic hose for your top radiator hose, they’ll cut it to fit, whatever length you need. We’ve races for 43 years and have used hydraulic hose for the top radiator hose for the last 10 years

@briancardwell7494

4 жыл бұрын

I want to say the one we use now says (petroleum and it’s red stripe)

Good luck tonight y'all.

Tim, a trick that the speed shop here said is to put a clamp in between the hose to keep the spring from moving. I had the same problem my self with the spring.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Just did that actually

Now go and win

Good luck this weekend

gmdexcool in grey gallon jug its a orange color antifreeze much better than the green. don't need anything else. use the number 2 restricter in your thermostat. good luck with your weekend.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Perfect, thank you!!

Good luck tonight. Have fun

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

Parker E-Z Form GS Suction Hose

You should make a restriction plate to put in place of the thermostat water needs time to cool down

Y'all done good . You may want to carry a 180° washer for the water neck incase it runs to cool , cooler weather is comming 👍👀🏁

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Will do!!

Tim you need a restriction washer where the thermostat went if your water flow is to fast it will still over heat. If you can you want as big as possible water pump pulley you got to slow the water flow down so it has time to cool otherwise you will have over heating issues for the water flow is to fast to allow the radiator to cool it down. When we ran our modified we had as small of pulley as possible on the crank and big as possible on the water pump fan shroud four core radiator and a restrictor in where the thermostat went and burned alcohol and never had over heating issues. I don't remember exactly but I think the restrictor had a 1 inch hole in it. Also we was told to never run a thermostat they can stick and cause overheating issues. By the way you will need something to put in front of the radiator to help the car warm up on cold starts when you get that thing to cool correctly.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Yep! We have the restrictor on the trailer and will be watching the temp. I have a block off for the front of the rad to get it up to temp, thanks for keeping me in line, y’all rally help this team out. Thank you!!

@threeaxis359

4 жыл бұрын

@@OldNo7Garage you are most welcome brother go get them and get a win for us. wish you the best. When the opportunity arises would like to come over and meet you all in person. Working 2nd shift and being on OT makes it a little rough to make plans sometimes.

We never used a thermostat but we did use a 5/8 hole restrictor in the thermostat housing because the water never had enough time to cool off in the radiator

Good luck out there

I was always told antifreeze doesn’t help on cooling. We always run Napa cool in our stuff. The radiator hose with the spring made inside we order from motorstate.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Ok thanks!

go with braided line for the radiator.

Good luck tonight timmy, we have to back wash our radiator every race, i realize you had a hole, i heard good stuff about the your additive. We still run antifreeze, good luck

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Y’all too!!

Allstate performance as well part # ALL30206

Ya I know how to use it

you need to put a restrictor in place of the thermostat if you dont have a 5/8ths resistor the water moves through the system so fast it doesn't have time to cool properly

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Ok I’ll put a restrictor in there

hey guys, you need to run a restrictor plate ,or you still get hot, if don't nothing it flow water to fast. anther thing is use pipe to shorten your hose, i get mine at speedway. and i use silicon hose. keep up the good work..

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

Tim water is all the same. If u still have overheating problems u might want to look at the size of the Pulleys and slow the system down or speed it up. And u might need to install a spacer where is the thermostat was with different size holes if you need to slow down the flow before changing pulleys.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

We have an assortment of the reducers on the trailer and will be watching it all night, thanks for the tip!!

Used the zip tie trick all the time on our motor.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Cheap and easy way!

On the radiator just get a 1. 1/2 piece of aluminum pipe that this is straight and just use a small piece hose to connect it to the radiator and outlet on the engine

@OldNo7Garage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Had the same problem with the hose in our latemodel. We drilled a small hole in the water inlets and hooked the wire through on each side then double clamped havent had a problem since. Could always use a braided hose

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds good, thank ya!

Also if u have to put Thermostat back in because after it gets up to temp and runs warm, instead of drilling holes in the nose drill like small holes in the thermostat itself

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

10-4

Trouble with pulling out the thermostat is that the water will flow so fast that the radiator won't have time too cool it.

@skoalbandit8843

4 жыл бұрын

I was just about to comment this lol. Tim if you're not gonna run a thermostat make you a restrictor plate to put in there. Gotta slow that water down so it'll cool properly. Good luck this weekend.

@arkansaslogan1084

4 жыл бұрын

Washers. I had to use them alot, because I was to poor to buy different thermostat.

@thebloogs4233

4 жыл бұрын

We'd got the thermostat by cutting off the tower and taking out the button and the spring.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you to a point, here’s my argument. I run a double pass radiator so basically I’m putting twice the restriction in the cooling system that I would with a single pass. I think that is enough restriction to properly cool the engine. Now, on the other hand if it isn’t I will definitely put a restrictor in it. Guess we will find out tonight!

@MosinMan76254

4 жыл бұрын

@@OldNo7Garage Let us know how you fair out please. You've got a package from Amazon waiting at your post office. I got an email saying it was delivered. Lastly, I'm soon going to think you threw away my previous package lol.

you need a restrictor for the thermostate housing water will flow too fast and wont cool

@OldNo7Garage

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, we have one in it now

Check how much of your fan blades are in the should there is a exact measurement for this,I forget something like half in and half out

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Ok I will thanks!

They do make performance thermostat. I was gonna say in the last comment that they make performance coolant but looks like you found the secrete. Now go put that car in victory lane brother

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Will do man!!

I think you cut a little too short on the top. Looks good though bud.

I used to use exhaust pipe for my bottom hose.... the bottom hose is the one that will suck together....also, put a 1 gallon overflow container on it...that way if it pushes water out, it will be able to suck water in. edited : You need some restriction in your gooseneck or the water will flow too much and not collect the heat out of the block. Use window screen in front of the radiator... it will catch a lot of dirt....and you can shake it after each race to get the mud off of it. I raced dirt cars back in the late 80's thru the late 90's.... Riverside Speedway in West Memphis Ar....Memphis Motorsports Park....Caruthersville Missouri.... Dyersburg Tn ...and a lot of tracks that don't exist anymore. The first track I ever raced on was El Paso Speedway in Ar..... it was a 1/2 mile.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

You raced in a great era!! My dad raced from the 80’s thru 2005. I loved those times. And yes, the window screen will be implemented!! Thanks for watching!!

@JohnBoy

4 жыл бұрын

@@OldNo7Garage I just found your channel a week ago ...I love dirt racing...by the way, my first car was a 68 Camaro and my last car was a 69 Camaro .... everyone at the tracks were upset with my choice of cars....lol

@JohnBoy

4 жыл бұрын

@@OldNo7Garage p.s..... I wish you well at the track.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

John Boy lol I remember my dad pulling a 68 firebird into the race shop on a tow truck, It sure was a pretty racecar, but I’m sure a few were upset as well.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

John Boy thank you my friend!

Give em hell man....

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Hammerdown!!

Hey man love the new intro and we’re is the lethal

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

She’s getting ready for a heart transplant!

You shouldn't need a spring in the upper hose the lower hose is suction and the only hose that needs one

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed!! Don’t know why the upper had a spring....

Since you took the thermostat out you did put a washer in its place? 1/2 ,5/8 hole for resistance ?

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

No washer, but we have them on the trailer if needed.

When are you coming back to crowleys ridge raceway

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Before the years over. We will make sure to post when we do

If you can't find that hose you can straighten out the ends of the wire spring and bend a hook, that hooks on the outside of the end of the hose, then double clamp (one clap over the wire hook), the other just on the hose. The hose will seal around the wire being double clamped. I've had a friend do this for years on his race cars and no issues.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely a good idea!

Bro just order from fragula problem salved

Good luck tonight... bring home the W... all that hard work is gonna pay off.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

I hope you’re right, we’re DUE

Check with your local farm implement dealer for the hose with the spring built into the hose. Sprayers use those for high pressure situations.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Perfect! You guys have been really helpful thank you

We're u going to race at

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

St Francois county raceway

What is it ya'll do for a living up there

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

I’m a heavy equipment operator/jack of all trades, B is a machinist

Agreed, we use to restrict our thermostat delete with a 3/4" inlet/ spacer. Found we couldnt get enough heat in the motor...not too aware about the double bypass radiator...but you onviously know ur doing...love the vids...good luck! (In Canada we had water wetter, simlar maybe to cool ade???) Go get em this week end

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, same kind of stuff, thanks we will send it!!

@jongolliher3806

4 жыл бұрын

I always used a 3/4 id flat washer for the same reason. Anything to restrict the flow to the same total amount works.

Great job on your videos man huge fan keep up the good work 👍

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

During one of your videos, can you explain some racer terminology? I hear driver interviews say "The track rubbered up" or "The moisture was here" I don't know what they mean. Also, race car drivers can't work on crate motors, due to rules, but open motors can be "claimed" ? (I go to a couple local tracks here in Iowa, who run IMCA. I don't know if that makes a difference)

@OldNo7Garage

3 жыл бұрын

Well when you see a black race track, that’s from the tires putting rubber down. At a certain point that rubber created grip, or becomes “rubbered up” that usually locks the track down to one lane. As racers, we look for the dark colored dirt or the dirt with moisture. Why? Well that’s traction!! Per the rules correct crate motors are sealed. Open motors can be claimed, yes but I’ve not personally seen it done around here.

@beegekhaos3171

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh okay, interesting! So is the black rubber "Slicked off" ? Because I hear that term sometimes too - And you run a crate motor (if i remember right) so you've got to have someone else repair it, or make changes to it then? Where as someone with an open motor can make changes to theirs (within the rules of course)

@OldNo7Garage

3 жыл бұрын

Beege Khaos yes when it’s black we call it dry slick. As we keep racing on it it will ”take rubber” you’ll hear a driver say, “ I found the rubber” that means a certain part of the track rubbered up and there was lots of traction because of it. We run open motors actually so we are free to fix/repair on our own

@beegekhaos3171

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know! Thank you. I really appreciate your videos, i like seeing all the behind the scenes work that goes into it!

What kind of water pump do you run?

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Edelbrock

The spring is designed for the lower hose. The upper hose should never collapse unless your spinning the water pump backwards. Lower hose is suction side.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Right!! Really don’t even need it

Napa

Idk if this is a dumb question but wouldn’t the motor run better when it runs a little warmer and without a thermostat

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

I just want it to be 180-200° so whatever we need to do to achieve that

It will usually run hotter if u take the thermostat out cause the water will flow so fast it won't cool. I cut the valving out of the thermostat. But u can get different size washers to put in place of the thermostat

Glad to see the Boss supervising you and the hoodlums lol! Good luck this weekend!

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

She does a mighty fine job! Thank you

That's great you got your camera back, that was some good racing. And you got some free shirts too, must be nice to be famous. We will heading your way after I get of work. We we'll swing bye and give you a holler. Good luck and be safe.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds good!!

Tim you and your guys remind me so much of when I was working on a NASCAR grassroots team as a tire/body/ anything anyone needed expert and general troublemaker for the other teams lol. I got paid in beer and fried chicken. You need to pay B in more beer and some damned good fried chicken then you may get that late-model soon.

Take a thermostat cut the center out put it in green line a yellow line hose at Napa

Go Getter done Tim. That car was made for hangin it out while throwing a dirt rooster tail in the wind. I would call your car “Tazz, The Dirt Devil”

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

We nicknamed the engine TAZ, The cars named Deja-Vu

Take the valve off of the thermostat and just use the disk from the thermostat as a flow restrictor.If the water circulates through the radiator too quickly it will not shed enough heat and will boil over guaranteed.

@shanedevlin6097

4 жыл бұрын

When I used to race we would make up some washers the same OD as the thermostat housing and drill different size holes 5/8 , 3/4 , and 7/8 of a inch you need some restitution to slow down the flow so radiator can do work

We got 2 radiator hoses with the spring made inside of it this week from advanced auto parts.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Great thanks for letting us know!

yeah they will suck shut good thing it is flex I think they don't have near the tendensy to suck shut.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

One day when I slow down I’ll get with ya on you know what man!! I haven’t forgot about ya!

@threeaxis359

4 жыл бұрын

@@OldNo7Garage Ok brother I sent you an e-mail not sure if you read it yet when you get the time don't feel rushed.

Take your thermostat with you if she overheats in the 1st heat put it back in. good luck nearing 10k subbies!

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Heath! You betcha, we will throw it in the trailer and have it in case of emergency.

Hey, when you mentioned that you no longer run a thermostat in the cooling system it reminded me of a conversation my dad had with some wise old racers about over heating. They said they kept having over heating issues and so they took out the thermostat and got bigger and bigger radiators but nothing helped. Well they figured out that if they put a big washer in where the thermostat goes it slowed the coolant flow down enough that it stayed in the radiator longer to get cooled more and wasn't just rushing through so fast it wasn't getting cooled down enough before it went back into the engine. So if you still are having over heating issues, you may wanna try that, would be the cheapest thing you could do so far and it just may help.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

We have an assortment of the washers you mentioned, I’ve had a lot of comments about them, so they’re on the trailer. Thank you very much for the advice!!

@jongolliher3806

4 жыл бұрын

haha, exactly what my dad went through when he started racing with a hot flathead and that worked. It makes sense when you think about it.

7/8 restricter instead of the thermostat. Gotta slow that water down to cool in the radiator. At the track you can cut one out of the body aluminum and drill a hole that size. We found turning them motors 8-9 thousand that was the best size hole. Or gut the thermostat at least at the track . Got were I never had to look at temp gauge when racing, just on a caution. Good luck

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the tip we have everything in place as you stated and will use what we need to do to keep her in check, thanks

To get the hose with the wire made inside, more than likely you’ll have to visit a farming type store or a heavy equipment place. I had to replace the top hose on my bull dozer & got that type.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much I appreciate it I will look at my local farm implement stores today

You definitely need some restriction from the thermostat. I would remove the valve & spring from the thermostat & run the disc from it.. Good luck!

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

Try 1 800 Radiator for the hose. They make a funnel, I use to get all the air out. It's about 15.00 at AutoZone and works great.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Great, thanks for the tip!

why did u take the thermostat out and why are u running water? any freeze runs so much cool and lubricates ur water pump

Hose clamp on the middle of that upper hose should keep that spring in place

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

I will definitely do that tonight thanks

I made a upper radiator hose for my car out of aluminum I can send you a picture on Facebook is you want

@OldNo7Garage

2 жыл бұрын

Sure oldno7garage@gmail.com

Have you thought about going to the stainless steel upper hose? Also I had an issue keeping a race car cool and had an old man tell me to cut every other fin off the water pump to slow the flow to let the radiator have time to cool the water. It worked.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I have thought about going with the stainless, a N style hoses just haven’t pulled the trigger.

@jongolliher3806

4 жыл бұрын

Matt, cutting half the fins off is another old flathead trick that works too.

@MattS-ru1ys

4 жыл бұрын

Good to know John. Flatheads were before my time so I’m glad u filled me in on where that came from.

Hey man. Take it easy havin to work and edit these videos. I know it had to be stressful. 2 jobs for sure

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh, just one job this is an absolute dream to be able to do this type of stuff man

The hose your speaking of are hard to find and spendy. Cut some old hose and wrap around your new upper. Then hose clamp it. Haven't had any issues. Keeps spring in place

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

I will do exactly that before we head out tonight to the races thank you!

@darenolney41

4 жыл бұрын

Good luck tonight!

I am sure it wouldn't hurt to put the entire bottle into the radiator. However, I would suspect that you have to drain the old coolant out of the block.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Yep almost every bit of coolant was out of the engine we drain the block and the radiator.

Sounds like you will need four or five separate radiators if you are running two cars. Needless to say, I would have recommended changing the radiator out at the track. Although for a weekly racer, it is just to much to do in a short amount of time. From a heat to a feature. Yet for a special event race that pays 5000.00 or more to win. It is worth it provided it is at least a two night show,. With the first night being the qualifying night and the second being the feature. The 5000.00 or more to win, provided the payout through the field is decent. Is what I was recommending to the Minor boys on whether to use new tires, or to flip tires. Or possibly cleaning up the original grooves in the tire. That way they have a sharp edge again. New tires are a huge advantage for you in a big money race. Although I would check the payout back through the field is reasonable to make that type of investment in new tires. Nevertheless, that is some of what I would recommend after 40 plus years being apart of motorsports.

@OldNo7Garage

4 жыл бұрын

Your insight on Racing is spot on! I really appreciate the tips and ideas you have, and will definitely keep them in my back pocket when I need to use them I will silently thank you

Don't never run antifreeze in your cooling system and run distill water ! Just food for thought and no thermostat !

@fanoflakespeed9460

4 жыл бұрын

Why?