And Bill just ignoring her the whole time. This is a good glimpse into their dynamic. He doesn’t mind so much that she’s having a good time with her friends and garnering flirtation from other men, so long as she’s always there when he calls. It’s like he expects her to never leave him. And it’s Nancy who walks after him by the end of the number. He doesn’t even turn around because it’s understood she’ll follow. I think she feels trapped, knowing he takes care of them & gives her a decent place to stay, keeps her off the streets or in a worse living situation. Nancy’s very independent, but she’s not naive enough to think she can make it on her own as a woman in that time period. I’d be interested to know their origin story. I can see Bill being kinder and more loving to her in the beginning, but as time went on, and he knew he had her, he stopped and grew colder. Nancy mourns for the man she once knew and fell in love with, hoping one day they can go back to how they were. It’s partly why she stays and puts up with him. Bill seems to be fond of her, in his own way. It’s the little ways he smiles and nods to her in the beginning of the scene, the way she beams and seems to light up. She lives for those little moments, because it’s remnant of who he used to be. Those moments may be partly genuine on Bill’s end but also partly manipulative, to keep her with him. Subtle love-bombing.

@biggiouschinnus7489

6 ай бұрын

Never thought of it like that, but you're right!

@ColleenMcShea

4 ай бұрын

Smart & well written analysis. Just wonder if the novel supports it (??)

@Shan_Dalamani

4 ай бұрын

@@ColleenMcShea It's been a long time since I read the novel. There's a lot in it that either didn't make it into the musical, or it was altered. Dodger ended up being shipped to the penal colony in Australia, for example. Bill Sikes was an abusive manipulator, plain and simple. He knew how to make Nancy think that any violent actions on his part were her fault, and how to make her think he still loved her.

@elianne4753

4 ай бұрын

@@ColleenMcSheahaha probably not, i just like speculating my own backstory

@ElizabethS.Lowell

Ай бұрын

Wouldn't be surprised if Nancy was also still on the streets--and picking pockets--to bring in a second income. Which Bill would take for granted.

I think Charles Dickens would be pleased with Oliver Reeds performance as Bill Sikes I have heard from the cast that he was a big man which was intimidating and he could be frightening but never hurt them but he was a great motivator getting them moving during scenes! Shani who plays Nancy says she got the part because she could do a really good cockney accent and this was her favourite scene to film during the movie as it was fun! It would have been sad in those Victorian days if you were poor it was a hard life from food,clothes,jobs,places to live and how the rich treated you! I like in this scene how Nancy is singing and flapping her petticoat while Bill is just focusing on himself and bulls eye. I also like that the only words you hear from Bill are at the end of this him in his deep voice calling for bulls eye, Sir Carol Reed did a great job at directing this and no remake would ever beat his version it's timeless! This movie Will continue to be watched and loved by many generations to come!

Noticed a few things about this scene Bill never says anything but he does things with gestures and that he doesn’t like to touch people. He doesn’t outright ignore her, but he seems to give Bullseye more attention than to her. Nancy sings about how fine her life is even if you have to go without things. Even how Bill treats her in this scene speaks volumes, like when she pours drinks for herself and Bill and he stops her from even having a drink with him.

The beautiful and extremely talented actress, singer, dancer, entertainer and performer Shani Wallis should have received the Golden Globe Award, the BAFTA Award, the Screen Actors Guild Award, and the Academy Award for best actress in a motion picture for her brilliant and excellent portrayal of Nancy in the 1968 classic movie Oliver! It should be Dame Shani Wallis! Shani Wallis is the best and one and only Nancy ever! The 1968 classic movie is one of my favorite movies of all time! I was born in late fall of 1978. This movie musical number is fantastic! Thank you for posting and sharing this excellent movie musical number!

I first watched this as a kid and was completely enchanted by Nancy and her voice. Her death was so shocking I still think of it to this day. What a powerful character !

Brilliant movie

“Who cares if straightlaces sneer at us in the street? Fine airs and fine graces don't have to sin to eat.” (Looks at the harlot and sailor.)

I love the thumbnail 😂

2:47, I think that's the closest Bill has ever come to actually being nice.

Argh I loved Oliver Reed! From the moment I first watched this film

Though you sometimes do come by The occasional black eye You can always cover one 'Til he blacks the other one But you don't dare cry!- Sing it louder girls!!!! LOL!

Man it's so weird that when I was a kid, this seemed like such a happy, joyous song, but as an adult it kind of makes me sad... Don't know if that's because I'm listening to the lyrics properly, or because I understand the subtext of the scene better, but it's very strange.

It looks like Oliver Reed is still trying to forget the filming experience of The Trap. Who can blame him anyway?

@Shan_Dalamani

4 ай бұрын

He's been in some pretty bad movies. He's also been in some good ones, like The Three Musketeers.

Brilliant Movie and Performance! Shani Wallis is Brilliant as Nancy! Nancy is a tragic figure! Nancy is a good person! Bill Sikes is a cruel murderer and robber! Nancy and Bet are best friends! In the novel, Oliver Twist, after Bill Sikes brutally murders Nancy, Bet is hysterical and unconsolable. In the novel, Bill Sikes is haunted by his heinous brutal murder of Nancy! Bill Sikes in the novel and in the movie is brooding and evil! Nancy is the only person kind enough to love him! The 1968 Classic Musical Movie, Oliver! is superior to the classic novel!

Movie producers had chutzpah in the 1960's.

Leah Glaser

No one ever mentions her sister Bet 😢

@ElizabethS.Lowell

Ай бұрын

That was Bet in the shawl, who Nancy was dancing arm in arm with. Either her sister, or her best female friend.

Robbie Hagberg do you want to go to the store tomorrow morning if that works for you to come over and get it tomorrow and get the car back to the store and then go to work and the other