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@mattryan6886

2 жыл бұрын

Sweetwater is the best!!! They bend over backwards to make sure you are happy with your purchase, willing to help with any technical questions or troubles. Have very friendly knowledgeable representatives. The free candy included is always a plus when unboxing brand new sweetwater boxes 📦!!!!!!!

@stevea2488

2 жыл бұрын

Trogly doesn't return emails

@DavidHBurkart

2 жыл бұрын

I think the routing for the P90s are an improvement for the player even though not era correct. The overall vibe of this guitar is attractive.

@jnelsongf

2 жыл бұрын

Watched this video. Went to demo shop and bought the black deluxe les Paul Thanks trogly

There's something decidedly NOT punk rock about a $10k guitar.

@clifisboring

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@TheMerc1950

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@cartoonsandcannabis

Жыл бұрын

😂 the gtr he probably used to hock for H and now copies of it are $10,000

@0utlaw13

Жыл бұрын

Even Mike Ness said in the early 2000's that he became what exactly he used to fight against in the beginning of Social D. However, I still love Social D. For a $10K Goldtop I expect it to be in almost perfect condition and no stickers 😆 I do have one for 1K. But my Gibson rip off is pinstriped 😆

@Richard_Lush

Жыл бұрын

Yep I’ll say. Is the decal worth 4K? Couldn’t get the case right?

I don't know exactly why it makes me happy that Trogly sold Mike a Deluxe, but it does.

@brettc6132

2 жыл бұрын

Dude, I know exactly what you mean lol

@thrashinwebster

2 жыл бұрын

It’s because that’s fuckn rad haha! ✌️ also thanks trogly that was a really good review’ as they all are’ try and check out Jansen guitars like I mentioned on my l comment on the last video’ preferably the Jansen invader strat style guitar’ I think Uighur quite like it….. hopefully’ take care and thanks heaps for all u do 🤘🎸🤘

@gayrambo4529

Жыл бұрын

I sold a Mustang body to Ace from Sloppy Seconds probably 20 years ago. A few years back, I saw them live and asked him about it. He got all excited and showed me a bunch of pictures of it on his phone. Really nice guy!

I understand that this guitar is meant to be a replica of mike ness's specific guitar, so it has a bit of an exception, However I find it very interesting that guitar collectors Will pay a lot of extra money for a brand new guitar that has been artificially aged and worn, but yet when guitar collectors see a true vintage guitar with wear and tear from age they see it as players grade and undesirable and it becomes a lot less valuable, to me its just strange way of thinking,

@shawnawesome7770

2 жыл бұрын

I think besides the price, the aging is a big no. Instead of aging them they should just sell mint condition with stickers ya know?

@Paul_Lenard_Ewing

2 жыл бұрын

Yes a mint condition 50's Gibson is worth 10 time one with even a small scratch or two. Personally I think all this literally damaging a guitar is a fad. In a few years no one will pay a premium for used ones but less as they have no way of knowing whats real damage and what is fake. Add to that and you will soon see a glut of Asian guitars reliced which will kill any cool factor in having one.

@mattriley3550

2 жыл бұрын

Hot take.

@BizarrePudding

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree...Makes no sense at all to me...

@philfrank9226

2 жыл бұрын

The whole business is strange. Now this Norlin junk with 11lbs gets vintage status and the prices rise. In 2000 you got this guitars for 15oo.- .And all this copying.The best they can is public relation.

My best friend's grandpa is Clay Smith. He invented that woodpecker design. It's based off of his nickname. He was a racecar driver and mechanic.

@martywatson876

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome. I just bought a bunch of those stickers online

@dusdincobain1191

Жыл бұрын

Yes it’s weird people not knowing what the sticker actually is. Lol my dad has plenty of mr. horsepower stickers and signs around his garages. Grew up in a Motorhead family.

Beautiful guitar, but nothing says punk rock with a $9,000 custom shop

@cripmeister9104

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing says punk rock LIKE a $9,000 custom shop dude

I opened for Social Distortion in 1984 and he stayed with me for a week. Great guy.

I actually played the original one briefly during a soundcheck in '96.... Great memories...

You shoulda tuned down to E flat and then put a capo on the 2nd fret!!

@scottcalloway4630

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@ryj44

2 жыл бұрын

And never use index finger. Ha!

Hell yeah! This is SO sweet! As an Orange County California native and big Social Distortion fan, I gotta say this is KILLER! Mike Ness is THE MAN!!

Can’t believe how affordable this guitar is. I bought 3.

@mikegreen2417

2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

I purchased a brand new Les Paul Deluxe back in 1977, with HSC the cost was a staggering $565! I played that LP Deluxe through my then brand new Fender Twin Reverb, cost of that amp brand new was only $400. I miss the 1970s.

@johndef5075

2 жыл бұрын

Im waiting for the NFT version. Nothing like looking at a picture of something really expensive that you dont own❤😅

@kevinalfrey2633

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@mkenific

2 жыл бұрын

A reissue of a Norlin era guitar? They suck.

As a player of close to 30 years hearing the phrase "or are you a collector?" makes me want to throw up a little bit on the inside

The green aging on the edge looks more like it was painted on with an airbrush rather than the patina of copper in the paint.

@fpeynet

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It looks fake.

@sometimelater

2 жыл бұрын

yea, they couldn’t do it. the first prototype they gave him was even worse. the prototype wasn't even a playable instrument, he sold it day 1. total trash. i can't believe sweetwater pays for this. they pay for someone who ain't even a guitar player to promote products that don't need to exist. this is mind boggling.

I love my “boat anchor” goldtop. The P90s can sustain ridiculously long

So basically you seem to get first dibs on these kind of guitars, make ad revenue for the demo, then resell them for a profit on reverb due to short supply? I really enjoy your knowledge of the vintage stuff, but this is dangerously too close to sneaker reselling channels.

@shortyyy4321

2 жыл бұрын

He typically resells for what he paid if I’m not mistaken

@slagmaggot

2 жыл бұрын

@@shortyyy4321 you are mistaken

Thanks for the coverage on this! I honestly wouldn't have given this model a second thought because of the typical 70's weights. It is great to see Gibson using some lighter weight mahogany for such a high-end model.

Hi ya Trogly- so cool to see you Demo #79. The same morning you bought it I got that Sweetwater email with the 4 choices and 79 was there. I was contemplating #79 (graduated HS that year) and #86 cuz #86 had a nice very appealing goldtop look (possibly the most gold of the 4) and it was 8’13” so I liked that weight a bit more. I also thought if his is a 76 then you add a perfect 10 and it’s an 86. Needless to say when I refreshed the page #79 was gone (now I know where) so I quickly bought #86 Loved your demo and I’m hoping mine is just as killer. I compared the aging and I think 86 has a killer relic job just like your 79 As always thanks for the killer demo. It gives me confidence that the $9k was money well spent

I wouldn’t get rid of the 79. They started in 1979 and that number is on quite a few of their releases and merch. Of course the #1 is the most desirable but number #79 is going to be the number two. One of their mottos is since 1979 and may even explain why that one was aged better. Edit-are you sure they all aren’t #79? As a lifelong social distortion fanboy that wouldn’t be weird for him to do.

I saw this on Gibson’s KZread channel. I thought to myself, ‘I want it’. Went to the website and saw 10K and I couldn’t justify that. At 5-6k I would already have mine. First world problems….lol

@mraycgz

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@MolliOlli182

2 жыл бұрын

I guess it's the amount of work they do to get it looking like it's been to hell and back. I'd be happy buying a 500 Epiphone with no wear and tear and then beating the guitar myself at gigs.

I think one would have to be slightly psychotic to pay 9 grand for a mid 70s, pancake body Les Paul. Not drinkin the Kool-Aid on this one. I’ll go another thousand and buy the Korina stuff or a Murphy if I’m spending that much money on a guitar. Love your show all the same Trog!

Those reissued Gibson chainsaw cases are great. I always switch to that case for more protection when I take one of my standards out to go somewhere

I had a 1977 Les Paul Deluxw back in 1977, it didn't have the pancake body or the large headstock. It also had a mahogany neck, I miss that guitar, sigh. The reissue is pretty great looking, I like everything about it except for the price. Some day I will get myself a Goldtop (the Deluxe I had was a Cherry Sunburst). Very cool guitar and a great Demo,m Thank You Austin.

Out of all the Norlins I owned, the best was a 76 gold top. The maple necks always seemed a but more snappy than the mahogany ones to me

Mike Ness deserves this.

Fun Fact.....Social Distortions logo was designed by King Buzzo's wife

I first saw Mike in 1985 playing a beat up 60s Melody Maker. I never thought back then that one day he would have his own $9000 dollar signature guitar. Good for him 👍

A buddy of mine bought Mike's Les Paul from the album cover, Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell and Loans it out, from time to time, to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland Ohio.

That bird is "Clay Smith Cams" logo. Thrush mufflers copied it later without the cigar and bent beak. Cool old car culture decal from the past!

@koDaffi

2 жыл бұрын

Thought that too. Like Mr Natural stickers that said Keep on Truckin.

Also my 76 lp standard tobacco burst is heavy like I like them. I don't like weight relief guitars

@MyName-nx1jj

2 жыл бұрын

Man

I worked for Gibson and find it interesting that Les Pauls are still so popular. I mean, how many of them exist? Millions? Billions? It's not like they are special anymore, is it?

@chrisghiardi117

2 жыл бұрын

Guitar model popularity ebbs and flows with what bands and styles of music are currently popular. In the 80s up until G&Roses you could pick up used Les Pauls for a few hundred $.

@k_dawg7475

2 ай бұрын

I'd say they are simply timeless beauties

The kids can come up with that last year for college right?

That sticker was the mascot for hush thrush mufflers and exhausts way back in the 70s. My traditional has a 60s style neck but that thing is so weighty it's a beast even sitting. You must have really enjoyed that guitar. You barely even touched your normal run through on a guitar.

@cjw3129

2 жыл бұрын

Thats not the thrush logo that is the clay Smith cam shaft logo the thrush woodpecker does not have a cigar look at the cigar wrapper it says clay Smith an Mr horse power it is a common misconception

@clarkbabin9799

2 жыл бұрын

@@cjw3129 all they did was add a cigar to it. I had that exhaust on a car. It came with a sticker that went on my bumper except for the coat it was the same bird.

@cjw3129

2 жыл бұрын

No the bird is different the thrush birds teeth are not gapped has a cigar and a snear an its feathers are pink not red I know what thrush logos look like I've been a mechanic and drag racer for 30 years Austin did his research well he is right

@clarkbabin9799

2 жыл бұрын

@@cjw3129 it existed since the early 70s at least if not late 60s . Thit evolved from.its original look since the company didnt want to be mistaken for woody wood pecker. Before the black of the eyes were smaller and he was was a different color.. there was a lue banner that said hush thrush with the picture and mufflers written on one side and headers on th her other. It didnt have teeth drawn in or a cigar as I said before. Later the black of the eyes became bigg err and the hair or feathers changed to what we now see it as.

@cjw3129

2 жыл бұрын

@@clarkbabin9799 i am well aware of the history of thrush mufflers and clay Smith cams an thats how I know both companies have a similar logo

Wrap strings around peg at least twice then insert the end between 2 of the strings into the hole. You wont need locking tuners.

I don’t give a fig about celebrity models or the aging jobs normally, but this one really does have some good character. I will have to check out Mr. Ness and his band. Thanks for bringing us this one Austin.

@saltpeter7429

2 жыл бұрын

Social Distortion has some tastey tunes, and Mike Ness has some decent solo albums, I recall " Cheating at Solitaire"was good. Most bands dont get Better over time, if we are honest we support the aging hero's because we love them for what they did. Social D's " Hard Times & Nursery rhymes" from just a few years ago was the BEST they have ever sounded.

@Torquemonster440

Жыл бұрын

​​@@saltpeter7429 Agreed, Hard Times is excellent. But that self titled 1990 album just has a certain character and energy to it.. Social D was still hungry in those days and you can hear it on that album even though it's polished in comparison to their earliest releases.

I love it, the bridge pickup came to life with distortion. I really love my Norlin walnut The Paul. It’s my go to Les Paul.

Thanks for the review! I have a natural 77 Deluxe with a P90 in the neck and a Super Distortion in the Bridge (like Tom Scholz’s guitar). I love mine!

love the stickers, the I voted sticker is my favorite... He has a small car collection mostly 50's classics. One of our early punk bands and they did it their way all the way or hit the highway... AXSTV had a special on mike mostly and Social Distortion a few years back, the dude was just himself, just a person. He cruses around Cali in a '" 49 Mercury I believe ". He like vintage stuff in his house \ garage. You know, when our belongings were made to last, made in America. Austin, you knocked it out of the park on this video Mike fricking Ness... Especially since you had a 70's LP to compare it with. Informative and detailed as usual... I hope your dream of putting together a guitar Museum comes together, I'm sure it will kick- ass and me and my best friend my wife will come and see it. Randy, Great North Woods of Michigan -9

@Randy.100

2 жыл бұрын

@@Peter-ff1tp Hello Peter, how disappointing to hear that about Mike Ness , BUT I will admit to you my brother a lot of musicians and actors are total liberal pieces of trash that will sell out our country in a heartbeat. ..I don't know him that good only met him at a few concerts. The access TV interview was pretty interesting and he seemed to be so down to earth. I was hoping that he was for real.... I honestly don't know if what you say is true or not but I certainly have no reason to doubt you but I do know for a fact that a lot of musicians and actors are total sell outs, that will sell our country out in a heartbeat. I wonder how do you know so much about him? Regardless, I appreciate the heads-up and like I said I wouldn't doubt a word of what you're saying... Disappointing to hear regardless. Randy

In 1977, Gibson made the "Pro Deluxe" Les Paul, which was a Deluxe with P 90's. On the truss rod cover was only written "Pro". These are rare now.

@Trog

2 жыл бұрын

those had ebony fretboards too

@toddjanney

Жыл бұрын

I have one !

Wow! I am a huge Who fan, seeing them in '81 and 2012, and I cannot ever remember seeing Pete Townsend play a Les Paul.

The woodpecker has been the Thrush Header/muffler logo forever. Everybody and their brother had that sticker on their race car back in the day.

Your comparing your trust rod cover to his, but his lettering might have smaller font. Those were done by hand with a soldering iron.

That was a nice move clarifying you upload at so-and-so time each day - after the swipe at the Gibson mod crew for NOT being "timely'" with their ULs everyday. LOL. I particularly appreciated your comment "I've got better things to do than sit around and refresh their page". So true, and well put.

Actually the guitar sounds amazing to me.. Love social distortion and after hearing the tone clips I definitely want one.. That's a keeper imo

There is something so comfortable about your videos. Thank you!

He has good taste

13:40 - It’s the Thrush muffler mascot, not Woodie Woodpecker! ;)

Minus the decals and relicing on the heel of the neck I really dig that guitar.....and the price tag of course haha Your channel has gotten me into Gibson guitars. Always been a Fender guy, but you made me appreciate Gibson.

You still have your blue sparkle though ?

I was hoping you'd do this one! This guitar fits Mike Ness and Social D's style so well. This guitar is all over my favorite Social Distortion record, "Sex, love, and rock 'n' roll." EDIT: It's weird to me that the bridge pickup would be so wimpy compared to the neck. For most songs Mike sticks to the bridge, and at different times has had a piece of tape on the selector to stop it from moving.

@dereklingo8000

2 жыл бұрын

I think mike Ness has a hot seymor duncan p-90 in the bridge on his guitar.

@sebg2086

2 жыл бұрын

social distortion is so bad

Love the headstock

No idea who Mike Ness is but that's a hot rod era woodpecker and I love it.

@Pinebrookjohn75

2 жыл бұрын

He's also a car guy. Has many custom cars.

@vansongs

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pinebrookjohn75 Figures and cool

@scottcalloway4630

2 жыл бұрын

You should give them a listen.

@vansongs

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottcalloway4630 Oh, ok. Heard these guys before. Didn't know names. Pop punk like Alkaline trio or Green Day. Cool

@jawknee21

2 жыл бұрын

Mike ness is an idiot who punches people who disagree with him while the crowd holds them, then he kicks them out of the show.

Wallmart

Mike Ness sang, wrote and played guitar in SD, Johnny Two bags, and Dennis Denel were the lead guitar players

Ok boss, we've finished the les paul Great - how much is it gonna be ? 5 grand Stick a woodpecker on it and call it 10.

Okay, i want to drop P90s into my '76 now.

In the mid position with the distortion, this thing is Quack Central!

4:16 YOU SOLD HIM THE BLUE SPARKLE?! I thought that was a permanent part of the collection! :O

I got the same "I Voted" sticker on the back of my phone...lol

I totally dig it! Another awesome vid trog. Question - WHY did they do the sandwich body? For tonewood combination? I’ve heard “snappy-ness”? Or was it convenience (easier to obtain)? Or profit motive?… and then, why stop? I have a feeling if anyone knows it would be you!

Presumably then, that's what the piece of tape on the neck pickup volume is for. If the pickups are the same height as on the original guitar, and the neck pickup has higher signal strength, because it's set at the same height as the bridge pickup (both pickups being the same output), then that would tend to suggest Mike knows to set the neck at 9 or whatever, to balance the outputs. Personally, I'd prefer to pack the underside of the bridge pickup with some veneers or washers or something just to raise it up a bit (if there's room). Then they'd balance better without needing to worry about the volume positions. The joys of Signature (Signature) guitars!

If I hasn't bought an R0 I would so buy one of these. I love SD and Ness. This is a reissue I never dreamed would happen. If I had the coin I'd get one immediately. They really nailed it better than any artist guitar, in a long time.

Congratulations on #79. I told myself I would buy one if I could find #76. Then after viewing a few I found it. I guess it was meant to be. So I bought it. #13 was tempting also. Loved your video and review.

No pickup readings. I may not sleep tonight 😕

My favorite Mike Ness quote is where he says he looks for old Les Paul Deluxes and takes those mini humbuckers out and throws them right in the trash and sticks some P90s in there. I would do the same thing. PAF style humbuckers are great. P90s are amazing but I'm not a fan of the minis.

@The Trogly's Guitar Show... Have you ever done a video on how to properly change strings and how to maintain an LP? I think, since you're such an expert, we'd like to hear how you'd do it... to maintain the value of the instrument and all the mistakes folks make. Thanks.

8:49 they're not even Duncan pickups!!! Ness uses Duncan. who cares how many pieces the top has.

all of mike's guitars are lightweight. there's quite a few light 70s LP's out there. they're gold.

That case interior is gorgeous, I love the blue.

This thing sounds great and those pickups have a lot of bite to them, well done Trogly!

Cool comparison. I too thought that price was a little much considering what you could also buy for 9k. I was looking at my Kalamazoo '76 Deluxe and I noticed the serial number is in gold and that some serial number databases point out that my guitar has digits colored gold. Was that common to have the serial numbers in gold or does it demark something special? Only asking because when I look up the serial number, some databases say its a limited edition.

Not too long ago I was watching a Social Distortion concert on KZread and halfway through the set Mike Ness switches to a Blue Sparkle finish Gibson Les Paul Deluxe and I'm watching this thinking "Cool" Trogly has one just like that...and what do you know! It was Trogly's guitar! Great review of the Mike Ness Signature Gibson and Congratulations to Mike Ness.

I enjoyed the sounds of that neck pickup and the middle position.

So cool to see a Norlin reissue. On the topic of Norlins can you do a video on how to tell if your Les Paul was made in Kalamazoo or Nashville? Especially during the mid 70’s when both factories were making Les Pauls? Seems to be a murky topic with a lot of misinformation out there and few ways to know for sure. Would be cool to get your perspective on it.

That LP would go great with MY Mr. Horsepower tattoo 🤘

Congratulations on this video. This is really well done! Wish I could afford one of these.

Wish trogly did the pickup resistance readings, i was curious if gibson wound the set hotter to match the seymour duncan set he uses.

I wonder what these will look like after they have actually aged, how will the fake green patina paint look against the actual tarnish that happens

@johndef5075

2 жыл бұрын

The aged relic🤔

i built mike ness some pedals he used with that guitar well the real one. my buddy is mike ness neighbor and a custom guitar builder, i've done a bunch of pedal designing and building for his company. part of which were some custom builds for mike ness. I also own Sound Sounds Fuzz pedals

Like a lot of people, I’ve made a bunch of these over the years with the Epiphone ‘56 models. So I’ve studied the original guitar a lot, and the Horsepower sticker just messes with me. MN has made many of these himself over the years with the Horsepower sticker, but on the real deal original one that he first got back on the White Light album, the cigar smoke clearly goes under the bridge.

@jeffreykma8316

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder why they didn't do that?

You forgot the key part. He throws the mini humbuckers in the wastebasket. Mike learned that trick from Neil Young xD

That's awsome he got your blue one

I hung out at the Costa Mesa Alano Club back in the 80's when Mike was getting sober, Saw him play a back yard b day party for a friend, he is an awesome dude, and played Gibsons exclusive. Good Times.

What is that triangle shaped aging job near the 17th fret? How does a guitar get that kind of wear? By picking? Or by the strap??

@scottcalloway4630

2 жыл бұрын

My guess would be from holding the pick in hid hand while removing the strap after 500 gigs it'll dig in

@shawnawesome7770

2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering aswell

Good job on this! Looks cool as hell.

I was really hoping you would review this model!!! Excellent job!

I wish the regular production USA Deluxes were 3 piece maple necks with volutes

Does anyone know who many are being produced? I've looked on a few sites, including Gibson's and I'm not finding an answer. At least with some of Gibson's other limited Custom Shop releases production numbers are easily spotted. Thanks and Cheers Austin, was odd not seeing you in a T-shirt or shorts LOL.

@kennethh2430

2 жыл бұрын

@@bradleyfurer7847 Ritght on, thanks Bradley!

Hey, Trog, what was the reason for the pancake body? I have a 1974 Greco with that feature. Thanks.

Mr Trogly what would you say is a fair price for a great condition late 2000s alpine white studio with the ebony fretboard of course?

I remember the woodpecker sticker from Thrush mufflers back in the 70's. It didn't have the stogie though.

This guitar is made to be overdriven. That bridge PU came alive👍🏻👍🏻🎶🎶🏁🏁

Wait. Did you say they possibly used a 2 piece maple top instead of the era-appropriate 3 piece top as a likely cost saving measure? I don’t know much about the economics of guitar production but it seems like it would be cheaper to use 3 piece tops than 2 piece because you’re using smaller, cheaper pieces of maple.

Also if it doesn't have Seymour Duncan p90s then it isn't a correct replica, Mike Ness hates Gibson P90s. I'm a huge fan of his but was really disappointed that he finally got a Gibson replica but it was $9000.. Not very punk rock to me.

@saltpeter7429

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. I remember a Guitar World interview where he talks about his guitar tech "immediatiately removing the stock pickups" and giving them the boot. Lol. Funny how things come about.

@Trh1

2 жыл бұрын

@@saltpeter7429 those were mini humbuckers…

Id love to see a review and demo on a Epiphone George Thorogood White Fang ES-125

I don’t share the love for these despite one being my main guitar for like 20 years. I didn’t know about guitars until later in life, but imho, the originals were terrible guitars. Or at least mine was. Made due, sold it years ago, don’t miss it.

So happy that you got it.

I bought a 2021 50's Les Paul Standard and it has an ebony fretboard. I have not seen any others like that. Anyone have an idea why that would be? Thanks.

@BizarrePudding

2 жыл бұрын

I picked up a 2019 50s standard Goldtop (P90s) in excellent condition a few months ago, got a great price on it cuz it was a shop I had bought from before...I love it, no complaints but I was thinking that I'd love it even more if it had an ebony fretboard...I assume you lucked out with that one, congrats!

@billspmaxx6490

2 жыл бұрын

@@BizarrePudding Yeah thanks, I do like how it looks.

Stone Gossard has played a Gold Top since the 80’s , with 3 bands and In the rock and roll hall fame …..

Mr Ness could have sent you one 'Gratis' for sorting him the blue sparkle. If it was me in that position i would have sent you one Austin. Nice 1 for the review pal.

I want to order a custom shop version of a TRUE vintage les paul with a pre-broken and shoddily repaired peg head.