My theory is this: When Carne is badly hurt, the stand activates and consume whatever is near to heal his wouds. When he is fully healed, the stand dissapears, just like an automatic stand. But since he died, his stand is now a monster trying to heal him whatever it takes. And it will be like that forever, since Carne cant be healed because, he dead.

@JustAnotherSomeDude

3 жыл бұрын

Or after a lot he gets revived of energy

@emerfirek

3 жыл бұрын

That explanation reminds me a little bit of Highway Star.

@Beeboppering

3 жыл бұрын

Ooooo that's a nice head cannon, I like that. You don't see a lot of self healing stands in Jojo's

@zinciblezfide8827

3 жыл бұрын

If thats the case then- OH SHIT

@Nscorpion5248

3 жыл бұрын

I assumed he dies and when BIG finishes it's mission it revives him.

I adore the idea of Pucci achieving heaven and beginning to speed up just for a pink streak to rip across the sky and impact his chest, as the rest of the part 6 cast are left stunned in complete confusion and watch Notorious BIG quickly consume Pucci

@quinnholloway5400

3 жыл бұрын

That's what happened after Eyes of Heaven made the Joestar Victory Universe

@uberbyte7467

3 жыл бұрын

That's not how the stand works, it doesn't lock on to the fastest move object on earth and zips into it. It matches the fastest moving object in its own vicinity/Range. That's why it doesn't leave the ocean.

@johnpaulcross424

3 жыл бұрын

@@uberbyte7467 let me dream my dream man

@thenerfkid9228

3 жыл бұрын

Pucci was technically in the ocean

@thegreatmonacage3782

3 жыл бұрын

But remember, the universe itself was going incredibly fast. Notorious BIG couldn't lock on to anything at all.

I personally believe that Notorious B.I.G. had a different effect and that what we see was just a bonus.

@quinnholloway5400

3 жыл бұрын

Carne isn't that smart then

@Strawberrymilkdrink

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I can see that it had some kind of ability the that went out of control when the user died with some kind of strong emotion

@Strawberrymilkdrink

3 жыл бұрын

@@quinnholloway5400 yea...and?

@knyx9913

3 жыл бұрын

@@Strawberrymilkdrink like post Mortum nen from HunterXHunter?

@Strawberrymilkdrink

3 жыл бұрын

@@knyx9913 yea they are both tied to the soul so why not

My theory is that if Notorious B.I.G. absorbs enough life energy from its victims, it can use it to heal Carne's corpse and bring him back to life. Unfortunately for Carne, his Stand is stuck in the ocean forever, so he's dead for good this time.

@VitorEduardo-ez1mb

3 жыл бұрын

that is until he comes across a boat, its just gonna take a little bit since his universe got reset

@grungscreamvr8864

3 жыл бұрын

That theory is kinda funny if you think about it. The only stand that could truly heal from the dead would be Notorious B.I.G.

@Crabgar

3 жыл бұрын

there are fish in the ocean though, like a lot of fish. unless it's gotta be a human specifically, he'd be back in hours

@rarecrom

3 жыл бұрын

@@VitorEduardo-ez1mb well that was just kind of an uncalled for spoiler on a part 5 video man

@kubotheinconsideratefool4208

3 жыл бұрын

thanks, Monokuma.

I just thought Notorious B.I.G has abilities before Carne's death and his demise was unplanned, revealing another ability that just ended up being worse.

@lord_bobanewname4069

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought the same thing

@kubotheinconsideratefool4208

3 жыл бұрын

same

@basedimperialism

3 жыл бұрын

Yea, since he summoned his stand before being merc'd by Mista. If it only activated after death, why would he have summoned it so that they'd know he was a Stand user and potentially give away his Stand's element of surprise?

@bellamyisthegoat8820

3 жыл бұрын

A close range highway star maybe? Like sucking the life out of someone

@boianko

2 жыл бұрын

Considering he just walks up towards Mista in an empty runway I kind of doubt it. He was on Diavolo's personal guard team, so it doesn't really make sense for him to attack in such a moronic way, leaving himself completely defenseless. He probably knew that death would activate the stand.

Additionally, the word "Carne" in Italian van mean both "meat" ad well as "flesh", which as a reference to the Stand's manipulation of organic and spiritual material.

Maybe B.I.G. attacks and becomes stronger the more Carne hates his target, and the hatred of death supercharged it. So Carne fully intended to get shot, but dying wasn't part of the plan. Or alternatively, B.I.G. would be able to bring Carne back to life if some condition is met, like killing the person who killed Carne, but since that didn't happen, Carne stayed dead. I love that Jojo has these open-ended questions.

@genericusername4567

3 жыл бұрын

So kinda like ebony devil

@ianfinrir8724

2 жыл бұрын

@@genericusername4567 Only on steroids

I imagine that B.I.G. did work while Carne was alive and worked in a similar way to Ebony Devil: the more injured and angry Carne gets, the stronger B.I.G. gets. This explains why it only manifested after Carne was shot. It would have the same abilities, but toned down and with more control. Basically, Carne expected Mista to shoot him, and probably intended to use Mista's own bullets against him by having B.I.G. lock onto the bullets, then attack Mista at close range. Mista just killed Carne too fast and accidentally unlocked B.I.G.'s godmode.

@NotUrProfile

2 жыл бұрын

cool idea. really well thought out. although i dont think this is the case lol edit: sorry for not adding anything to the conversation.

I don't think Carne knowing his stand's ability is all that crazy. Yoshikage Kira immediately knew Bites the Dust happened after the arrow was done stabbing him. What's more, Yoshihiro didn't even know. Stand users likely already know their ability, it's just that those in disbelief require their stands' shared conscience to figure it out/know for them.

@joaosturza

3 жыл бұрын

josuke from part 8 explained aloud how his stand worked the moment after he got it, despite not knowing what stands or abilities are he did so whilst having a thousand-mile stare and recovering from amnesia

@innocentbystander4914

3 жыл бұрын

Id like to agree but jotaro didnt innately know he could stop time

@VezonTH

3 жыл бұрын

@@innocentbystander4914 yet if you remember N'Doul vs Jotaro, if you look closely into the final punch you can see that sub-conciously he has done it. And even if we take only the manga - that time when he brought himself a drink in a fight with D'Arby. He simply did not know that Dio can do that too, until the final fight.

@sentane8031

3 жыл бұрын

@@innocentbystander4914 well most stands could stop time it’s just you need to know stands can stop time and believe you can do it to

@eggwithptsd1832

3 жыл бұрын

@@sentane8031 how so?

I believe Carne had a colossal death wish. So much so, that he must have been bound possibly in a straight jacket by members of Passione in order to prevent him from dying and setting off the stand. In other words, I think the boss instructed members of the gang to keep him alive at all costs until it was time to deploy him.

@Ramsey276one

3 жыл бұрын

But why??

@SorowFame

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ramsey276one if you’re asking why they think that, it’s probably because you’d need a death wish to generate a stand that only worked upon death.

@Ramsey276one

3 жыл бұрын

@@SorowFame okay

Does everybody keep forgetting that seico and Ciccolata exactly know what notorious b.I.g did, Even mentioning it one time questioning if Green Day could defeat it, So honestly I take it that carne Stand told him It's ability.

I like how Carne had a voice actor just to say: "hehehe"

@dikiswamp

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

As a stand to have: Z tier As an an enemy stand: S tier

Okay, my theory is that B.I.G. might had a sort of resurrection ability. I mean, if it was based on vengeful spirits, what happens when he achieves vengance? To make the whole thing viable as an explotable power he could just crash into targets, and let BIG hunt them down, then be remade from BIG's mass. Would explain how carne knew this would happen, and why he was perfectly fine with the activation conditions, why go through provoking the gang rather than doing it himself. ...Or he might have just been scouted by a psychic and really was dumb enough to walk into a handfull of bullets

@kubotheinconsideratefool4208

3 жыл бұрын

hm-

@kilzfordays

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, because otherwise Diavolo is just killing his protectors like an idiot. That wouldn't be clever.

I have a theory that Cioccolata rendered Carne unable to think for himself. It's not just that he was willing to die for the boss (as we see other exemples of people doing that), but mostly walking around like a zombie, with a vacant look on his face. Maybe he wasn't willing to comply and they had to brainwash him?

@marin9412

3 жыл бұрын

Mostly unlikely considering the nature of his stand

@stormRed

3 жыл бұрын

@@marin9412 What do you mean?

@marin9412

3 жыл бұрын

@@stormRed Well Carne's stand is like that because he has so much hatred and aggressivity in himslef that he wants people to keep suffering and dying because of him forever even after his death. A zombie's stand would not really be something like that.

@kubotheinconsideratefool4208

3 жыл бұрын

hmmm.

I believe Carne learned about his Stand's power through a near death experience. Like he died for a minute and woke uo to find the ambulance he was being transported in all torn apart. You could make a little side story about Carne slipping in and out at a hospital and having B.I.G causing havoc whenever it happened.

I seriously love this stand not only is it a truly terrifying stand ability, like having to die to activate it, but also that is basically unstoppable for anyone that doesn’t have a stand like Trish.

The way he pronounces carne as if it's all fancy like just hilarious to me as a spanish speaker.

@Gloomdrake

3 жыл бұрын

Is that how they say it in Italian?

@thedeathofabachelor8782

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gloomdrake Carne has no emphasis on the "e", it is pronounced like "carnage"

@nadoa3

3 жыл бұрын

As a Brazilian, the way he pronounces it, "carnê", reminds me of store cards, like, those things you can make at specific stores to buy and pay later.

@lick816

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gloomdrake he says "carné", while the emphasis is supposed to be on the r

@vriska9001

3 жыл бұрын

ngl, i just turned the video because of it

Glad to see you're still coming back to this after branching out so much

@lordpvt

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@ShatteredGlass916

3 жыл бұрын

I kinda like how this guy branched out a bit. Too much Jojo can be kinda boring imo

@softwet2727

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShatteredGlass916 I definitely agree, he's inspired me to read and watch the other series's he's talked about so I can watch more content

@kubotheinconsideratefool4208

3 жыл бұрын

same.

It makes sense that carna knew how his stand worked sense fugo knew he wasn't immune his stand purple haze.

@schrelaxo

Жыл бұрын

Fugo didn't know until he and bucciarati tried it out

Or maybe Carne's stand had a similar ability when he was alive, but because he died, the stand evolved into Notorious B.I.G.

@SorowFame

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe that stand was called Biggie Smalls or some variation of that

i just assumed that after being pierced by the stand arrow and having no discernible stand abilities, the boss was like "ok so does it do something when he dies?"

One of my favourite Stands, mainly because it posed a legit threat and the Gang never truly defeated it. Imagine how much more disastrous it would have been if Notorious BIG was unleashed in a populated area.

The best example of a manga author coming up with something on the spot in my opinion was Eiichiro Oda and the Supernovas. He created 9 new characters out of nowhere, all with original and captivating designs and abilities. Many of them play a very important role in the story of One Piece today. I can't imagine Punk Hazard, Dressrosa or Wano without the supernovas. And although I'm sure Oda always planned on going to these locations, his plan for what actually happened there turned out to be very different thanks to the Supernovas.

@Ramsey276one

3 жыл бұрын

WOW

@kubotheinconsideratefool4208

3 жыл бұрын

a

Araki: if the stand user dies so does the stand Araki 7 years later: so that was a fucking lie

Carne looks disturbing too, i wouldn't want to find myself in a lonely street walking and then fucking Carne is in front of me

Please only stop these when you have run out , they are great and has been missing getting new ones on my feed

If you send that stand to space, it’d be like Kars all over again

Love these indepth Jojo stands videos.

My theory is that Carne didn’t even know what his ability did and never actually intended to die. He was probably approaching that plain expecting to whoop some ass only to be quickly reminded how fast bullets are

The situation in the plane also matches the monster blood episodes in goosebumps in the plane which came out a bit before the notorius B I G arc.

There been a number of times where stand users just kinda realize what their stands can do. Like, how would jotaro know about star finger, super lungs and time stop? Sometimes stands kinda act on the users subconscious orders, like again jotaro, Kakyoin and hierophant in his child hood. Purple Haze acting out Fugo's hidden rage. Jolyne using her stand subconsciously. Giorno not even realizing that he used Golden Experience on that gangster who's life he saved, and not realizing that he user GER (sure, GER does speak, but stands don't tend to act outside of the users orders). If the user can use their stands subconsciously, they have to at least know about the ability in a instinctive way. It then later on develops into better understanding of the stand. Also, B.I.G. could be a stand that gets stronger as the user gets damaged. How more damaged can you get than being dead. Carne just didn't expect to get shot down immediately.

I wonder if Araki will ever give us a stand inspired by Tupac in the future, because Notorious BIG was awesome.

@Gloomdrake

3 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see how it gets censored. Two Pack?

@SoxExcalibur

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gloomdrake packages of dual quantity

@masterramboxx360

3 жыл бұрын

Two packs of equal value

@El_Nergigante

3 жыл бұрын

Twin containers

@zeta9743

3 жыл бұрын

What could be a good stand concept for Tupac?

I always kinda assumed that BIG was some kinda stand that activates with a revenge mechanic when he was alive but he died faster than he expected and it just happened to still work

Glad to see more JoJo stuff from you and I hope you're doing well

I like to think Notorious B.I.G's human form was a punch-ghost type of deal where it's powers were just punching and kicking really good, and that Carne actually had no plans on dying and simply got bodied by Mista unexpectedly.

Every Jojo vid solidifies Araki-sensei as a genius

As a hip hop head I was very excited when I saw this stand, thanks Araki

I could see Carne figuring out his stand's abilities when he had a near-death experience. Like in a shootout with a rival gang he may have been shot and came close to death, causing Notorious B.I.G to awake and go on a rampage, though not as uncontrolled as when he actually died.

I always just liked to think B.I.G was a stand similar to Cheap Trick, something like a stand that changes users upon the users death, maybe something like stand will go wild upon the users death but when someone that maybe the user knew, would calm down and could be transfered, something like that but it's most likely he just dies

i love how he put the stand on the album cover and there is still the ready to die on the bottom that came from the juicy remaster

I only came here cus i thought you were having a biggie retrospective, but now I gotta read JoJo's

*Walks onto screen* *Walks towards danger* *Gets shot* *Dies* *Becomes one of the most notorious characters* *Doesnt elaborate*

I like to think that Carne and the Boss had no idea what his stand was, but they knew he had one since he survived the arrow, so they were like "Let's send that weird guy. Worst case scenario, he buys time for someone useful, best case scenario, his stand activated and wrecks shop."

This episode's endcard character is Doggir Cruger from Power Rangers Space Patrol Delta

@Ramsey276one

3 жыл бұрын

Best Good Boi :-P happy doggo XD

Meti, Meti, Meti can't you see sometimes your words just hipnotize me. :D

my theory is that notorious B I G also works on severed parts of carne, hence why he has no nose and no ears

I like to think that when Carne orders his stand to complete something, if it’s successful, it reconstructs and revives him. Though the whole debate about stand resurrection kinda muddies it, it would make way more sense why Carne knew his own stand ability, and why he was in the Elite Guard

*Arrow falls on big* *Turns into a requiem stand* Everyone on earth: Fuck

I absolutely love the reference on the thumbnail. That is genius.

You covered almost all of the stands from part 5! Naisuuu 👌

Me: *hears the song at the beginning of the video* also me: "BIG..... THE CAT...."

It took me a second to understand the music you picked for the intro. I love it. Big the Cat's Theme from Sonic Adventure.

I've been waiting for this

A cool fun fact that this ability could be based on, Biggie has a song called "you're nobody till somebody kills you" which gives me huge Carne vibes, he was probably not even a threat until he was killed and B.I.G activated

Love the Rance music in the background.

Maybe it worked like a Purple Haze that required Carne to cut a part of his flesh to activate and then that part of flesh would act like the BIG we saw

After nearly 2 years, it has returned LEZZZ GO BABYYY

Finally after a month he has given us another jojo video

Love that you use big the cats theme

Love the thumbnail 👍

Cruger cameo at the end! My man!!

I'd think the BiG would have it's absorbsion effects normally, but be a short-range stand, hard to actually trigger. It just gets 'unshackled' on death into an automatic stand.

Diavolo: What’s your ability? Carne: Haven’t died, don’t know. Diavolo: You’re hired.

Meti : And if you want to defeat notorious big Me: I don't want defeat notorious big I want to control it

@Gloomdrake

3 жыл бұрын

I guess that means YOU'RE the bad guy

@josephprice7669

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gloomdrake good enough for me

I like to believe that Notorious BIG still had good power and speed when carne was alive

Let’s goooo, more JoJo

Man it would be really kool if meti did a character analysis of kengan ashura characters

The Beauty of Meti 『Not The Bad Guy』

Carne:hello my name carne my stand stronk when i die Diavolo: haha funni suicide man is approved

The trailer for part 6 just got shown let's goo who's ready

that thumbnail goes CRAZY

Best stand master bro.

That thumbnail was just too good

I like the idea that no one knew that it would happen and infact he went there expecting to just fight

Im glad someone finally talked about the name inspiration of Notorious B.I.G

Shimaneta plugs for like what 5 years and running

Despite its simple design I do like B.I.Gs humanoid form.

I feel like carne was used and kept in the royal guard for a special occasion like this which is funny because that means diavolo was more willing to use notorious b.i.g than cioccolata and secco which shows how much he hates them

I never knew how much Notorious B.I.G. (stand and irl) made sense...

I created a theory on how maybe Carne got to know he needed to die for his stand fully activate. I imagine that when Diavolo was recruiting his top members, maybe he used Epitaph to see the future and find out if anyone could have an ability that would reveal his identity, and then by seeing in the future he saw himself killing Carne because his stand was apparently useless and then Notorious B.I.G would appear and kill him right off, so fearing that, he chose to keep Carne on his side as sort of a unstoppable weapon against his enemies.

0:36 BRILLIANT PICK

Araki was disrespectful as hell when he named the stand after Biggie💀

So if the Stand only works when the guy using it dies, then how the hell did he even know how to activate it. And how cray had that guy been to intentionally suicide himself just to launch an attack that might not work.

@spachino7351

3 жыл бұрын

pretty sure all stand users just know their abilities when they get them or somethn

@kingn0ah377

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like he didn't. He's just dumb. Also the stand probably had a ability before that.

Okay so this is goana sound dumb but can regular people see BIG or just stand users? I can you just imagine some poor guy gets devoured by it not even knowing wtf happened lmao?

@wolfclaw719

3 жыл бұрын

My guess is that its kinda like Strength from part 3; its so massive and powerful that even regular people can see it though like the mysterious living ship almost no one who witnesses it survives to tell the tale.

@vapor-shadow2815

3 жыл бұрын

@@wolfclaw719 yeah thats what I was thinking too. I think they said something after the fight or at the end of part 5 where they describe B I G as a unkillable monster that terrorizes the seas I think.

@diegoidepersia

3 жыл бұрын

it feels like Yellow Temperance from part 3 tbh, it is visible and has somewhat similar abilities

9:05 Hamon Beat actually talked about that awhile go. Two videos titled "What makes a Stand?"

‘Yea, its basically just that stand on crack’ bruh

I always though carne came back to life after big devoured a person

Truly an amazing foe

I do respect this stand for 1 other aspect seen so little in JoJo, which is the "Tactical Retreat" method of victory. A.K.A scenarios and fights where our heroes don't legit win by knocking their enemy/oppresor down, but rather by simply escaping it and its effects. We dont see this again until part 7 with Sugar Mountain, where Johnny and gyro took a massive loss, but vame out alive because of it. Or for other example, the Darkness Devil Encounter in CSM. A complete loss, but a victory due to fear.

I think if it succeeded in absorbing more than an arm, maybe a whole body? Carne would have come back. That being said, if it successfully brought him back in the middle of the sea with no way for him to get home without drowning and starting the whole process over again, it would make sense. It also explains his confidence, and the bosses faith in him.

I get such thing vibes from this stand. Creepy, disgusting, and nearly unstoppable.

Big's theme for B.I.G., well played

I love all the theories in the comments. It really should have been more elaborated on by Araki how Carne's stand worked while he was alive in a foot note or something.

B.I.G is my favorite stand out of all of them

Since there is a song called Bemuda Triangle, it's actually easier to make the 'location' into a stand

I have a theory similar to the ones people in the comments brought up that B.I.G. is able to heal and/or revive Carne, and that he is well aware of this. B.I.G. is probably able to heal or even revive Carne once it gains enough mass, but that it needs to be near his body to work. But since it was taken on the plane and then flung into the ocean far away from Carne, it's stuck in an endless feedback loop of chasing after things, acquiring more healing mass, and then chasing things again. I also think Carne is aware of his stand ability, when he's walking towards Mista he _smiles knowingly_ . I have the feeling that he knew he would get shot, but not that Mista would actually kill him. Remember that he's a member of Unita Speciale, Diavolo's personal guard, I don't think that even somebody like Diavolo would have a kamikaze stand user who's never used their stand before to be in such a close position to him.

Hearing big the cats theme physically hurt me lmao

I like to think that Carne is either resurrected after B.I.G kills whatever the target is with the whole energy absorption thing. Or he was never really alive but just a host/shell controlled by the stand and just gets "fixed" after it returns.

I just figured that the stand activates when carne dies, and when his targets are dead he just resurrects