Hats off to the interpreter. She must've been exhausted after such a long interview with tricky words

@dr.darkroom

3 ай бұрын

There's two of them, they switch every 15 minutes.

I am a layman amongst you, but I found Connolly's delivery to be disgustingly glib. I also bristled at his failure to mention the warnings about potential wing damage. And then I read he is to be the head of the manned mission to Mars

@jenniferroe297

Ай бұрын

Sad, It seems NASA is just as corrupt as many other corporations and groups

1.06.42. Got to me. The guys who do this make no mistake are the smartest people on the planet. Webb will look back in time and tell us things about our Universe but the guys who go into space are on another level of bravery. RIP

@entertainme7523

2 жыл бұрын

1:06:42

I don't like how he's trying to compare the incident 2 Challenger Challenger they were warned multiple times by Engineers not to Launch because it was too cold they actually we're told by the engineers that it would explode and they didn't listen one was a mistake one was human error could have been prevented if they just listened but they had the news and everybody out there in the whole world was watching so they didn't want to stop it truly sad rip to all the loved ones lost 🙏

Very interesting. I'm disappointed that one of the commentators said very early that they weren't too concerned at [yet another] foam strike. This is disingenuous. Within 18hrs of launch quite a few engineers were extremely concerned at the foam strike because of its larger size, much larger than usual. They were so concerned that they requested hi res photographs of the shuttle's port wing. This was denied by, amongst others, Linda Ham who was higher up on the pecking order. Even Leroy Kane, the homecoming flight director, said the concerns were a "dead issue" two weeks before the disaster. Whether that conversation went through his mind when he was first told four sensors had gone off scale in the left wing a few minutes before total breakdown is something to wonder about. Looking at his face when it happened, you would think so.

@dks13827

2 жыл бұрын

Linda Hamm = quota manager.

@ksracing8396

2 жыл бұрын

The comment LeRoy Cain made is from an email he sent to a fellow engineer who had asked him about the photo request and was taken out of context in a media report. What had happened was that Cain, who was not a member of the MMT, had been informed by Phil Engelauf, who was MOD for that mission and representing the FOD in the MMT, that the decision had been made by the MMT not to follow the issue any further. He was not high enough in the chain of command to make any further requests after that and also people in Mission Control at the time believed in the analysis of the experts that had been brought forward in the MMT meetings that it would not be a big deal. The concerns of the lower level engineers were never brought forward to the MMT, but already crushed at a middle level - that was the main problem of the communication structure at the time, including that some of these worried engineers were afraid to speak up jumping the chain of command. As far as LeRoy Cain is concerned, he said afterwards quite openly that immediately when the sensors failed, he thought about the foam strike... But before he had believed in the analysis of the experts, as everyone in Mission Control had - "it was business as usual", as another FD working there at the time recently confirmed...

@barbginther2171

2 жыл бұрын

@@ksracing8396 Yeah, I'd just finished watching, 2x, actual, mission control video. They considered at onset, the options. Failed reentry, loss of oxygen staying in spay. This video was insulting. Notice change in body language when question by knowlegable employees?

@Tao_Peace

2 жыл бұрын

My Dad was a NASA Engineer and worked in the Firing Room at KSC. Columbia was very near and dear to my heart having seen the first 10 missions before moving away from the cape. He passed away in 1984 from ALS. That being said, to this day I find it utterly disgusting that THEY in command did not look at every conceivable option to save this crew! As it was with Challenger so it is with Columbia. Lives lost and families shattered because of those in positions decided to exercise their agency and chose the lesser. I hope we can all find peace to NEVER have something like these events happen again!

@nicklindsley7866

2 жыл бұрын

@@ksracing8396 then he really should have worn his engineering hat rather than his pecking order hat. Lives were at stake and time was running out. Guards in concentration camps don't get away with "following" the bureaucratic line. Sorry. I'm sure Cain may reflect on this too.

2 lb piece of foam going 500mph is a lot of energy

@tobiaspascher9884

2 жыл бұрын

That apparently even engineers underestimated

@AlonsoRules

2 жыл бұрын

@@tobiaspascher9884 they didn't learn after the STS-27 near miss in 1988 (Atlantis) when a piece off the SRB hit the orbiter in launch and caused massive damage

@tobiaspascher9884

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlonsoRules I know. Crazy that didn't make them take more action

@leecowell8165

2 жыл бұрын

What I don't get is that these pieces were coming off that tank frequently.. Why wasn't something done about it? You know if you throw something out a window doing 100 mph and even if it only weighs a coupla ounces when it hits something THAT is gonna hurt! Inertia plus mass equals a big smack if it hits something. So instead NASA has this stringent schedule that they MUST stay on.. and the hell with safety the "mission" is more important. Something is amiss here when it comes to people's lives.

@AlonsoRules

2 жыл бұрын

@@leecowell8165 I think NASA thought they could "play the odds" and hope the leading edge would hold up

So I grew up racing and was hospitalized 6x in critical condition 4x in serious and 7-8x for just crashes. In 1999’ I hit a concrete wall at 152mph my gforce meters recorded (1st impact: 174g and 2 milliseconds later (2nd impact: 132g) the car impacted the front bumper then the back bumper. I’ve had multiple 80-90g crash @speeds up to 185mph. With a containment seat that I raced with in my later years you could stay conscious but in the 90s and early 2000s when you take 70g+ blows it completely incapacitates you. I’ve seen they had a 82g pitch up and without the head being seat belted and in a containment seat. Idk how they didn’t have a fatal head whip. In 1999’ when I was almost killed in a coma 29 days my head went forward and the spinal cord tied to the brain, it restrains the brain and yanks it into the base of the skull. But my point is I know what 82g blows will do to you. Idk how they would be conscious after that. People don’t understand the force involved with that. Even when I’ve had a high g crash and I was conscious I have no memory of being conscious the brain can’t deal with that. I can’t tell you how many times my eyes went black I was semi conscious but I could only taste blood or metallic taste after the blow. The burn you have is like having a kidney stone except the pain is all over. That’s after mins of recovering from the blow.

@jacobh869

2 жыл бұрын

Shut up you

Very strange show, especially by the Canadian who more so loved to talk about himself and how important he is to NASA but not about what could have done to save the crew if everyone had done their job right from the get go.

Shuttle Columbia - lost 9 souls - including the 2 hardly ever mentioned ground crew before it even launched due to a nitrogen purge. A true shame they are not mentioned like Apollo 1 astronauts who lost their lives. They deserve better.

@RedHotMessResell

5 ай бұрын

Oh dude I had no idea two died on the ground too before it launched. Geez.

@karami8844

Ай бұрын

@@RedHotMessResellYes, but it happened back in 1981 when Columbia launched for the first time ever, not for this final flight.

32:10 The foam piece broke free at about 80 seconds…If I remember right, this was slightly farther into the flight than the point where Challenger broke up. it was the Orbiter, so it had maybe 6 to 7 minutes of burn time left, but they were already getting into much thinner atmosphere.

@ronaldgarrison8478

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonygaul4670 Dang, had to look that one up. Love me some acronyms, too, but when are web browsers going to have hover-over bubbles for this stuff?

NASA let that crew die without telling them about the foam strike. They considered rescue options and decided to roll the dice without telling the crew and while keeping it secret from the public.

@nickv4073

Жыл бұрын

Dont comment on things you never researched. NASA absolutely did tell the crew about the foam strike. They even sent Commander Husband an email with video of the strike that they all watched it.

@rjv-rw2ef

Жыл бұрын

@@nickv4073 they also said there was no need for concern. That was a lie. The foam hit the rcc at 530+ mph and made a clean hole in the wing. They decided not to listen and ignored it. That's negligence no way around it.

@stephencrisson3595

Жыл бұрын

Yep thats the worst part about it in my opinion who are they to make the decision for them whether it would have helped them or not was not their decision to make

@charleswoodard6407

Жыл бұрын

They need to be held accountable for needless deaths. What a horrible way to die.

@dr.darkroom

3 ай бұрын

19 people like this ignorant ass incorrect comment? That's the problem with this world. People would rather blindly agree than to verify and make a respectable assessment.

How crazy coincidental is that ... that they had a defunct data recorder from the shuttle's maiden flight set to monitor the exact wing that was breached and caused the loss?

Fun Fact: Little Mammoth Media did The Big Space Shuttle video during the STS 83 and STS 94 flights before the Columbia accident a few years later.

1. The astronauts couldn't do a space walk to check on the damaged wing, because they didn't have the right spacesuits to do that. And they didn't have the tether. 2. The wreckage showed that the damage was a large hole on the aluminum port wing and not on the tiles under the wing. The astronauts didn't have the materials to repair that. 2. Moving the military satellite to the correct orbit to take a photo would have cost millions of dollars. And having a photo wouldn't help, because the astronauts didn't have the materials to repair a large hole in the aluminum part of the wing. 4. Preparing a rescue shuttle would have taken a month. By that time the astronauts would be out of oxygen. 5. The space station was on another orbit. It would have taken more fuel than Columbia had left to reach the space station.

Is NASA finally at the REALIZATION that Lifepods are essential equipment to Space Flight? As in a Life Pod an astronaut may escape into, it seperates from a compremised spacecraft, remains safely in orbit until a secondary spacecraft collects it. Bringing astronaut ( s ) home safely. May it be a single pod per astronaut or a single group pod for multiple astronauts.

Does the unedited video from the microcassette [49:00] show the shuttle break-up from inside ?

@TommyTheCat42

3 ай бұрын

No

@dr.darkroom

3 ай бұрын

There would be no view of anything - you don't comprehend how fast this thing was going

@-bollox

3 ай бұрын

Of course there would be a view. The astronauts would be flung hither and thither, then the windows would cave in and the space suits would be found to be useless. @@dr.darkroom

59:40 .... WTF? They couldn't be released without security clearance? Had to be medicated? Medicated for sadness? Huh? OK. But why couldn't they just leave on their own will? I'm confused. Security??

@barbginther2171

2 жыл бұрын

I commented above, I just finished watching, 2x, the actual video inside mission control during Columbia tragedy. This was insulting. As soon as no response back. Lock the doors, no calls in, out, no discussions even with family, everybody note the paperwork and protocol to be followed, etc. Challenger and Columbia crashed same reason, egos, save face, money, and it's the gov.

@barbginther2171

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, yeah, interesting term Nasa used. "Normalization of Deviants". Like constant foam issue becomes 'normal' as opposed to a deal breaker? Whattt!?

@nickv4073

Жыл бұрын

Because Mission Control technically became a crime scene the moment the shuttle was lost. Hence the term, "Lock the Doors".

@WhiteGuysMadder

Жыл бұрын

@@barbginther2171 I read this at the exact second he said it. What are the odds

@LunkvanTrunk

Жыл бұрын

@@barbginther2171 it's not like they saying it's a good thing. Normalization of Deviants is like you go over a red light every day and think it's ok, because it worked and the 5th time it kills you. It's human and lack of discipline. You should never accept this normalization, but Nasa did. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_of_deviance

If there was a satelite photos of the demage wing NASA has a problem. They where not prepered to send 2nd shuttle for rescue. So in this case it was a accident… no one gilty…

Search and recovery, not search and rescue.

But what kind of pain would the astronauts have felt in that 5-7 seconds of lucidity before passing out? I can’t imagine hitting the atmosphere going Mach 25

Disingenuous is a gift. I just finished watching an actual video inside mission control. One of these guys was at home, the other a Dr. Upstairs? I suppose that's their story. A lot is not true, the rest irrelevant. Go watch and learn the actual facts. They knew at take off, major problem. Crew was unaware. The choice was carry on and be doomed at reentry, or, about mission, they would not reenter, rather, eventually, run out of oxygen in space. The decision was made to do the former. The good news, minutes before reentry, the last video was a lady raving, sooo excited about what they'd accomplished and so blessed to have been chosen for the experience. That was it. They passed quickly. Appoxia ? Change of pressure too fast, they knew nothing. You'll see from lift off, command ctr , they knew. Foam had always been an issue, Columbia was 21 yrs. They gambled. Staff was on pins and needles from beginning of reentry. All held their breath the entire time. Everybody knew. You'll find positive data responses, did not sound positive. After take off and the knowledge, mission control made the right decision. This comment about a second shuttle to send up. In your dreams. Yet, here they say, they encouraged no photos? Photos would prove the damage, foam had been a problem numerous times. Challenger lifted off because of too many delays, Ditto for Columbia. Columbia's done numerous flights when it should have been replaced/retired. Uh, oh, change in body language on stage, when Nasa employee makes statement . So they talk about food? As these deviants are being normalized? Meaning sufficiently safe, for YOUR family to fly on? This fiction is insulting.

@Daniel_25

2 жыл бұрын

You write like you’re having a mini stroke every 4 or 5 words. Weird

@lizkinnear8570

2 жыл бұрын

Lost of life and thinking of those unfortunate families...who lost husbands, dad's,sons and daughters did they think of that,No....it's all about money or lives...Columbia shouldn't have taken off until it was repaired...RIP

@nicklindsley7866

2 жыл бұрын

"They all knew." Sorry that's where you lose me. Don't buy it. You make the term sound like conjecture that doesn't need actual proof. ALL?

@rjv-rw2ef

Жыл бұрын

They knew there where problems and ignored it yes, but there was a shuttle being prepared that would have been ready in a couple weeks, i think rescue was possible.

@lolayancey3626

Жыл бұрын

Were they able to recover the scientific information the girls had gathered from the scientific experiments?

So the Columbia incident was a 'bad day'. I'd hate to see what their definition of a tragic day is. Edit: Dr Hamilton also said they weren't watching it on CNN like everyone else was. Omg.....they very well could've have seen the TV coverage. What, it never dawned on any of them to have cable and few tv's set up in the MC room? They could watch telemetry and camara footage simultaneously. Or was it they knew it had a good probably of having issues and didn't want to see it? NASA and our gov't, both, should be ashamed of themselves. We had the technology to save them, they chose not to. As my h.s. teacher used to say the day b4 a test or quiz....'if u fail to prepare, prepare to fail'.. I think this applies here, except failure ended in 7 deaths and not an F on a test/quiz.

Ask them why they changed from using good freon to bond the foam............. to using a bad freon to bond the foam. Ask them !!!

@trapperjohn6089

Жыл бұрын

Because of the environmentalist cult.

According to a documentary I just watched the mission could have been extended to 30 days to alllow for the launch of Atlantis - and the potential rescue of the astronauts. Life is cheap I guess, at NASA.

@sydneyallen8820

25 күн бұрын

The only issue with that was the crew would not have had enough oxygen to sustain them that long. Plus preparing another shuttle for a rescue mission would have taken quite bit of time to execute

@JimMac23

9 күн бұрын

They didn't have the oxygen. Another shuttle would have taken a month to prepare.

7 people died. Yea, we had a bad day. 🙄

30:50 Actually when it broke free, wouldn't the shuttle have drove into it? That's the only way it would make sense to be going over 500 mph. You can actually see the piece fly prograde for a moment and then the shuttle driving into it. So let's figure this out; The Shuttle was traveling at a speed of about 1,570 mph (2,525 km/h) when the foam broke away, and that speed would have been the initial "upward" velocity of the foam. Even so, the material would have had a relatively small forward momentum due to its low weight. As a result, the upward motion was rapidly decelerated by the high speed airflow impacting against the foam. The FOAM was already traveling 1,570 miles per hour - it did not accelerate from 0 - this gentleman is WRONG and if this is the people they have operating these missions I can't imagine why it crashed. 41:30 Also whoever compiled this presentation actually should be working the first window at a fast food restaurant. Nothing is in order - they are trying to backtrack information etc. Once again, this whole video seems to be a broader explanation of how this company is ran which is literally into the ground.

34:45 He might have done that-if there was any time for it.

They used comic sans in the presentation slides 😑

What a joke Fix the problem or don’t fly Poor crew

@lizkinnear8570

2 жыл бұрын

True..RIP

The casual delivery with no level of empathy is troubling. Kinda matter of fact. Just sad 🙏…. 20:06

@M_Lopez_3D_Artist

Жыл бұрын

DAMN this presentation was so bizarree like what the heck is wrong with these people stop acting like academic and show some freaking empathy damn

We supplied tubing for the the space suits for cooling garments we Supply tubing for a science experiment that some kid that worked at at Kentucky Fried Chicken did they were going to incubate eggs in orbit during that time the fertilized eggs they eventually completed that mission on another space shuttle and all the chickens died after they hatched on Earth

Everybody watching now??..🌞🦋😎💜😍🥰🍄💋🌹🖤

Waste of time, money, and lives!!

God those chairs are ugly

Spend the Billions on the people who need it, homeless, poor, hungry.. at least u can make a difference for the many other than yourselves!