I dont even like looking at Netanyahu's face. He doesn't care about human life, least of all his own people.

@Lurch685

6 ай бұрын

He forced them all to be Pfizer lab rats.

@hamzakamran2485

6 ай бұрын

looking at his face induces spasmodic vomit in me

@thisisladystark948

6 ай бұрын

agree 💯

@TruthAlways_

6 ай бұрын

He is a total psychopath

@jamesregiste960

5 ай бұрын

Fanatics choose to sacrifice you, for THEIR agenda?😮

"There would be no support in Israel for that" Why oh why are we letting the OPPRESSORS decide anything? 🙄🙄

@samara6041

6 ай бұрын

Exactly like why is that even something we are even considering.

@AlanClelland

6 ай бұрын

Israel support is dwindling, in ten years Israel won't have any u.s. support if they don't change direction.

@muhammaDEsmustafa

6 ай бұрын

​@AlanClelland I don't think they'll need it in 10 years, the Israeli infiltrators in the U.S. are working overtime to clash the U.S. with Russia and China before that.

@iamwell5654

6 ай бұрын

Exactly! We are asking the fox to decide the fate of the hens

@johnmatthews8810

6 ай бұрын

@@AlanClellandMore like two years.

“Since its establishment, Israel has engaged in brutal oppression of the rights of Palestinians. Thousands of Palestinians are imprisoned, beaten and tortured; children are taken from their beds and beaten by soldiers who are armed to the teeth.”-Miko Peled.

@kidagave1

6 ай бұрын

You’re just repeating left wing nonsense

@TheFaro2011

6 ай бұрын

The General's son

@cuckholdsimulator1176

6 ай бұрын

His 13 year old sister was murdered by a Palestinian suicide bomber and he blamed it on Israel, he isna self hating jew, wouldnt trust a single word that comes out of that devils mouth

@factchecker6674

6 ай бұрын

He’s basically a self-hating depressed person engaging in the weakest expression of self-destructive behavior.

@jamesregiste960

5 ай бұрын

​​@@shadebleuwhat does that have to do with it? The world went to War because of it, read a book, save yourself further embarrassment! 😮

10:30 I’m sorry, but the US has never done that! How can the Palestinians ever trust us? We need to give the Palestinians something big first!

one thing for sure, Israel can not continue like this for much longer, there needs to be a change.

@johnmatthews8810

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely. One change that is a certainty is that the settlers need to return to their million dollar houses and condos in Florida and New York. They can’t stay in the holy land. Either voluntarily or involuntarily they need to go, and they will.

@jimbob3030

6 ай бұрын

@@johnmatthews8810 They're not welcome to return here.

@TheFaro2011

6 ай бұрын

They will as long and far as they can and allowed, and then they'll encroach on others. "Greater Israel" and then others will do what it takes to defend their borders and the world will choose their sides

@elizabethmarshall1996

6 ай бұрын

@@johnmatthews8810 Correct

@simonkapadia7582

5 ай бұрын

That's a normative statement, not a positive one. The sad truth, is that they can continue like this, and have done for more than half a century, and likely will. There is no reasonable basis for thinking that things will improve given the present trajectory of international Israeli politics, and the power disparity within the region.

28:22 Yes! Absolutely!! Netenyahu is thrilled when antisemitism increases in the diaspora because it validates his claim that only in Israel will the Jews be protected ( at all costs) and that is exactly why…the Jews need a Jewish State!

@paulheydarian1281

6 ай бұрын

At all costs? What exactly does that include? 🤔

@iamthenews5624

6 ай бұрын

@@paulheydarian1281 Netenyahu regards anti-semites as his allies because of the shared desire to remove the Jews from the countries in which they live! Political Zionism regards anti-semites (themselves) to be their most reliable sponsors and protectors. For example, The ADL is an AIPAC tool to not get rid of antisemitism but to put a spotlight on it and to double down on it. The Political Zionist’s job is to stoke Holocaust level existential fears into Jews, so that that they keep donating to Israel and make “Aaliyah” because it’s only in the state of Israel where Jews can feel “truly safe” and thrive and antisemitism will no longer exist. You don’t think this war is dog whistle to Diaspora Jews…to haul ass and keep donating to Israel? This war is the Political Zionist’s wet dream. Antisemitism is at a fever pitch! Diaspora Jews are now doing their “zionist job” which is to defend this country with money and migration. This war has actually strengthened the diaspora’s resolve to donate, fight and move to Israel😉

@jamesregiste960

5 ай бұрын

"The Jews need a Jewish state " .......? why.......? The Arabs didn't drive Jews, out of Europe? Palestinians lived alongside you!😮

@paulheydarian1281

5 ай бұрын

@@jamesregiste960 The Eskimos demand Greenland as their national state. 😌

it is insane how this man is still in office and not in milosevic's cell for crimes against humanity

@sadaspahich6612

6 ай бұрын

EVIL 😈 Milosevic👹

@mcata3625

6 ай бұрын

​@@sadaspahich6612 if the West said that then I'd turn that upside down for the truth.

@am1156

6 ай бұрын

@@mcata3625 You can turn it upside down or back again. May Milosevic b u r n in h e l l till the end of time. And anyone who agreed with him.

@susiex6669

6 ай бұрын

Although Netanyahu is Eastern European, his backside is in a Western colonial outpost in the Mid East. The likelyhood that he will see the Hague is unlikely. The better option is the Ceausescu treatment.

@mcata3625

6 ай бұрын

@@am1156 wow that's very convincing.. NOT. Do u know what you're talking about?

Free♨ Palestine❤💚✌

I absolutely agree with Peter. I've lived for 40 years in the Middle East, had many Palestinian friends, and now live in South Africa. I could fix the Israel-Palestine problem in very short order. It is as he says. Treat the Palestinians fairly, give them back the land that has been stolen from them since 67, give them a voice in their country, and be respectful. Equality is all any group of people want. The hatred would melt away in a generation but then that's never been an attractive solution to a fascist fundamentalist

# Free, Free Palestine 🇵🇸🖤❤️🤍💚🍉🇵🇸

One of the best interviews I’ve heard in a long time, thank you MR and Peter Beinart.

This was excellent... best conversation I've heard and you have had some of the best. Thanks.

Peter Beinhart has such a depth of knowledge and so clearly explains nuanced situations that i could listen to him all day. We need him and people like him in our government. I hope he considers a run at some point. He explained some of the differences and subtlties of various groups of Jews, especially the American Jewish community. I hope people realize that this conflict is also a battle of semantics and ideologies that don't always fit comfortably. We need to conitue working on and teaching critical thinking skills and fact checking. 🇵🇸✊

@sergregor807

6 ай бұрын

I don't disagree with a lot of what he's saying, but I couldn't listen all day. The lip smacking was too much for me.

@erinmac4750

6 ай бұрын

@@sergregor807 I was watching on a small screen while doing other things, so I didn't catch it. There's some advantages to the tiny screen 🍀✌️😸

Great discussion and thank you, Peter for your insights and fair analysis about this conflict.

Thank you, Emma. You're the most empathetic person here ❤

@progressive_appalachian

6 ай бұрын

@@shadebleu lol how so?

@progressive_appalachian

6 ай бұрын

@@shadebleu So you're saying "shill" means "rich liberal from New York." I asked you to explain how she is a shill, not how much money she makes or where she lives.

this was so good.

Israhell is not a country ore a state its a colonial project. Do so research.

“I am 58 years old, and for the first time in my life, I am frightened to be Jewish.” -David Graeber

@LongDefiant

6 ай бұрын

Just to be clear, He died in 2020 That quote was from September 2019.

@Graeberwave

6 ай бұрын

@@LongDefiant correct, and the article it came from rings-as usual-so very true.

@kalli440

6 ай бұрын

U afraid bcos u have a pampered life. U agree to lies that make others fight for u. When u stop lying u never be afraid.

@LongDefiant

6 ай бұрын

@@Graeberwave Jews are incredibly safe here in the US. The ones that are under threat are the Zionists engaging in a colonial and genocidal project.

Lost me when called the uprising “ immoral”

@mcata3625

6 ай бұрын

Me too. But this channel is after all gatekeeping for isahell, so don't be shocked.

@susiex6669

6 ай бұрын

The only thing immoral is oppressing people for 75 years and acting like the victim that needs to be continuously coddled.

@mcata3625

6 ай бұрын

@@susiex6669 well now you know where this channel stands

@samuelrosander1048

6 ай бұрын

There's a difference between mass murder and uprising. There were military targets they could have destroyed, different ways they could have treated the people in the kibbutz and the festival, etc. What they did to the PEOPLE was immoral, and that's the point. Their invasion/uprising was moral, what they did in that invasion/uprising was immoral. TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE AT THE SAME TIME. Anyone willing to justify atrocities in one case is willing to justify them in others, as long as the "right" people do it for the "right" reasons...and most people believe that they're the good guys doing the good thing because they're told so by their media and support networks. Israel's government does the same thing that you're doing, and it's just as wrong. This conflict WILL NOT be resolved in any way besides genocide or ethnic cleansing if only Israel and Palestinians are the ones working it out. Palestinains NEED international support, and the more they commit atrocities the easier it is for Israel's propagandists around the world to sell the narrative of being the good guys who "have the right to defend ourselves." You may not like it, but you don't NEED to like it. You just need to accept that MOST PEOPLE see mass slaughter as immoral, and that the Palestinian people need the rest of the world on their side WITHOUT EASY QUALIFIERS like "but I condemn Hamas because they murdered civilians. Do you condemn Hamas?" so that there is enough pressure on the US to stop supporting Israel...and to shut down the Israeli weapons program that uses Gaza as its testing grounds. They don't have to be "perfect victims," but doing atrocities only hurts their position by giving the people opposed to their existence more ammunition.

@susiex6669

6 ай бұрын

@@samuelrosander1048 Hamas didnt have Apache helicopters and tank shells and they only go after IDF in Gaza while Israel wantonly executes children.

FYI if someone tries to do a gotcha by asking you “what’s the oldest democracy in the world?”, expecting the answer “the US”, the correct answer is actually the Haudenosaunee Confederacy (5000 years of continuous democratic governance).

@kindGSL

6 ай бұрын

AND the US Constitution was very, very much modeled after it; which is why it is actually so good. I think it is really amazing to think that stone age people had the best model for government on the planet. Like who saw that coming?

@JohnDoe-km9zd

6 ай бұрын

@@kindGSL It was modeled after it, but there were important aspects -- such as the matriarchal components of it -- which were completely ignored. Also, it was pretty much an inevitability that a people whose entire project was founded on genocide, white supremacy, patriarchy, and settler colonialism would be driven to continue those projects and so you can only really say it is founded on the Haudenosaunee project, but then filtered through those lenses, which totally transforms the project into something completely grotesque.

@TheFaro2011

6 ай бұрын

​@@kindGSLgood, by which metric

The common denominator to all the world's problems is money period

@melvillefletcher4332

6 ай бұрын

War criminals have enough money to buy thousands of acres of land, endless supply of water, food, sex, entertainment, etc. I can't help but feel like they are simply Machiavellian, narcissistic, psychopaths obsessed with power at the expense of human lives and livelihoods.

Yes- see Chris Hedges’s “the Language Hamas Speaks Is the Language Israel Taught Them” article to reinforce and expand their discussion about how the peaceful Palestinian efforts to secure basic rights were all brutally terminated by Israel.

Peter Beinart is amazing Of course Emma and Sam as usual brings amazing guests!! Thank you

This discussion was very rich with depth. Thank you all.

Excellent intelligent discussion . I really appreciate your contributions towards defining The problems and thus solutions to recent events

Thanks for the share ….. appreciate your wisdom ! Remember the stone rejected by builders …… be well all and Merry Christmas ✝️

"Double standard is their weapon. They bludgeon us with double standard" - Eugene Hutz

Ok so Hamas needs to resist in an "ethical way" Mr Beinart?! Following the example of what? America or isreal?! What a joke!

@erinmac4750

6 ай бұрын

He went on to explain that the US has cut those efforts off at every turn so far, and that the US needs to change it's policy. We had a tiny baby step with the US abstaining from a vote on the security council regarding Palestinian aid. Not quite the moral high ground, but compared to before, it's a move in the right direction. I hope our government realizes that we are likely already facing some chickens coming home to roost with the support of Netanyahu and IDF with the world standing against us.

@susiex6669

6 ай бұрын

Exactly! Palestinians resisted peacefully in the march of return and were gunned down by the Israeli Diaper Force. Kumbaya hand holding gets nothing done against people like Netanyahu, Bennet, Ben Gvir, etc..

@YourMajesty143

6 ай бұрын

​@@susiex6669- Even the 1st Intifada was non-violent. It was protests, strikes, boycotts & rock-throwing. And that still goes on. Whenever we go on strike, specifically a business strike, where we shut down our stores, schools, and transportation (to protest tax hikes), Israel would then shut off our water, electricity, and gas. And mind you, they hike taxes during winter so that if we do go on strike, we'll freeze in our homes.

@hasnaashaalan9083

6 ай бұрын

@@RobHel he's saying America needs to show Hama$ that if they follow international law and resist in an ethical way,...etc How is America going to convince Hama$ that the means to achieve anything is by following the international law and fighting ethically when America itself is the BIGGEST VIOLATOR of international law and it and its ally isreal are the most unethical forces in the world now?! My problem is with assuming that America has any moral high ground to tell Hama$ or anyone what law and ethics are. America is the world's thug and many of its top officials over the years are simply war criminals! In the west all those immoral politicians are talking about removing Hama$ from the government in Gaza and the political equation because they committed war crimes on the 7th, so Biden should be removed and all of Netanyahu's government! They are much worse war criminals than Hama$. They are k!lling tens of thousands. I want him to have the honesty to say that it's not about morality, it's about who has the power. America believes that it can say if Hama$ is in or out not because America is moral and follows the law but because it has the power. I do support Hama$ now but I vehemently oppose and condemn the k!lling of unarmed people not because of international law because it's rubbish and the us and Europe are what made it meaningless rubbish, but because Islam strictly forbids it. It even forbids any form of unnecessary destruction during war like cutting trees or k!lling cattle.

THIS MAN GAVE THE "WHY OF THE 7TH" IF YOU ARE OPRESSED AND HAVE NO RIGHTS.... WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN AT ANY TIME????????

As if Murica has even been a democracy

@jds614

6 ай бұрын

It has been and is dummy. As compared to what else Gaza isn't a democracy...it's year 17 of a 4 year term

Violence IS the only language the US and Israel understands.

@omarfadil1226

6 ай бұрын

On many levels you are right, because they mostly use violence and brutality to subjugate people and countries, Israel was more successful because of the U.S. government, but things will definitely change this time around.

@fargo7018

6 ай бұрын

Violence is the only language mankind understands period. Just read about the ancient time and their wars.

@elizabethmarshall1996

6 ай бұрын

Slavery etc…….

@samuelrosander1048

6 ай бұрын

@@fargo7018 Or read about the times when wars weren't going on. People understand far more than violence. It's just that right wingers don't want us to think about anything else because that would undermine their position on establishing strict hierarchies and establishing dominance...which can only be created and maintained by force. Repeating the nonsense about our "natural" tendencies toward violence is just in service to right wingers. Humans are evolved to cooperate and are at our healthiest when we have positive, pro-social relationships. Violence happens, but so do peaceful relations between peoples without the threat of violence to sustain it. Anyone who says otherwise is just repeating talking points.

@ullebor

6 ай бұрын

@@fargo7018 No, you're speaking about psychopaths. Your pov and those that think like you on this regard prove who the problem is with humanity. Perhaps we stop allowing broken people places of power across the board.

I've never been much of a fan of Beinart because I have always seen him as a bit of a trend surfer that chooses his opinions based on how much airtime he will get on cable news. That said, this was a darn good interview with interesting commentary/perspectives all around. I do wish there had been more focus on the Israel/Palestine conflict itself and what options may be available for peace, rather than how Americans feel about it (which I'm far less concerned with).

One thing that will always stay with me is a comment a young Israeli woman left on a post in a Facebook Jewish group calling American Jews "privileged". Isn't living in the Holy Land supposed to be a privilege? It shows how far the reality has diverged from the idea of Israel as a safe place for the Jewish people.

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I stumbled across this channel by accident, and can I just say I am so glad I did. The logical thinking in this debate is what kept me engaged. Thank you for raising awareness and spreading the truth. To all mainstream media observers, please take note on what peace could look like, healthy conversations of cause and concern, and separating Judaism from Zionism! Not the gaslighting we see on mainstream media! Also the message is clear, there can be no peace without justice.

These kinds of conversations massage my brain 😊😊

Sam and Emma and your guest great great program. With a Jewish background. people don’t understand the vitriol that is coming toward you even in the Jewish community. You all have extreme courage, unfortunately you’re a minority. People don’t realize if Israel comes out of this unscathed. The whole world is screwed. If people don’t understand the lies, we have been fed for 70 yrs Anything goes.

Excellent discourse.

This discussion is as deep as it gets. Thank you guys

I think Peter is the preeminent voice in discussing I/P. Absolutely invaluable.

@ungratefulninja4535

6 ай бұрын

& Miko Peled

A good beginning. A long way to travel though ! Ilan Pappé, Gabor and Aran Matê, Max Blumenthal, Noam Chomsky, Barnaby Raine well worth a deep dive I’d humbly suggest. 🇵🇸

33:11 "If you hold millions of people without basic rights, you are inflicting tremendous amount of violence upon them!"

Single state equality for all

@jds614

6 ай бұрын

That just translates to dead jews

Great conversation. Peter is a gem & love seeing him on MSM challenging the narratives.

Great interview!

Great talk. Thank you 🙏

Great conversation.

The best analysis I’ve heard. Excellent show!

An exceptional conversation that includes the major relevant points that most of us are missing. This is what makes this program exceptional.

Thanks!

less rights than the blacks in mississipi in 1953 that true?

@erinmac4750

6 ай бұрын

That's about right. Except the good ole boys wearing hoods could be replaced with the Israeli military acting as police force and settlers, some US citizens, acting as though the Palestinians are "natives" or "undesirables" in the Old West, taking property/land because they're"better." Just look at the fact that they have ridiculous political imprisonment laws, holding uncharged individuals indefinitely. Also, they incarcerate kids in regular prisons. As bad as policing is here, for the Palestinians, it's at least as bad.

war implies that both sides have an army ..

@susiex6669

6 ай бұрын

Exactly. Palestine has no army, navy or air force. It doesnt even have sea ports or airports. 🙄

@constantquestioning4010

6 ай бұрын

It’s not a war That’s the propaganda spin

@TheFaro2011

6 ай бұрын

The word is: mass acre

@jds614

6 ай бұрын

Hamas has 30-50 k troops prior to this. 10 IDF soldiers were killed two weeks ago...they didn't die by vibes...they have a military Just. Rinky dinky one This isn't wrestling...no weight classes. Don't want a bigger power to respond...don't provide them with mass kidnapping rape and murder🤷🏻‍♂️

Yeah- this is really working WELL for the Palestinians..

@user-xr7tc6mx1j

6 ай бұрын

What killed me the most is when they say 2 states is not possible because of settlers like what them fk can moved back to isreal just like the nackba happened in 48 then the sane thing should happen to the settlers its illegal shouldn't had happened

@waltonsmith7210

6 ай бұрын

So they should simply roll over and accept their oppression.

Excellent conversation and guest; thanks, and I’ll be sure to check if he has any books/articles/papers published.

Peter is the absolute best on this issue. Recommend the Katie Couric interview as well-of all places

Peter Beinart is a good man !!!

Thanks for speaking the truth 🙌

Mass displacement and oppression are a terrible foundation for a modern society.

I will say that even though I have often spoken out against the American colonial project (vis a vis First Nations) these events have forced me to confront that process anew. I am much more comfortable calling for land to be placed under First Nations' jurisdiction. I have a greater emotional understanding of the Land Back movement. These horrors have pushed me away from apathy and towards vocal support for undoing "Manifest Destiny". This isn't positive, or to my credit. I should have been here all along.

@jds614

6 ай бұрын

Surrender your house to a native tribe then Lead with example "Land back" pathetic Hating yourself for your ancestors is just stupid

@LongDefiant

6 ай бұрын

@@jds614 I'm perfectly happy with turning jurisdiction of massive amounts of land back to the first nations.

Peter Beinart was brilliant in this interview.

Thank You!

From south africa ❤

Merry Ge No Ci De Christmas to the Christian Zion.

A new PLO representing Palestinians seems the only way forward. Completely independent.

@BenedictMHolland

6 ай бұрын

Israel refused to even talk with the PLO and Israel hasn't been great in the west bank either.

@mcata3625

6 ай бұрын

😂

@susiex6669

6 ай бұрын

The PLO is seen as collaborators. Abbas has tainted it all. Palestinians, and only Palestinians, need to decide their leadership.

@paulheydarian1281

6 ай бұрын

Most of its leadership is in Israeli prisons or taking eternal dirtnaps. 😑

@melvillefletcher4332

6 ай бұрын

You mean like the original PLO of the 70s & 80s that gave up almost everything and was still delegitimized and attacked by Israel?

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to the MR crew, guests, callers, commenters, and silent viewers!

Beinart is brilliant!!

I agree totally with Peter’s succinct and rational analysis.

Loved this

Great, straight to the point conversation.

Wish Beinbart would stop swigging his drink

@paulheydarian1281

6 ай бұрын

You can do better...!!!

Peter should be the next prime minister of isreal

To all media observers of this discussion, please note that it far surpasses anything we have been exposed to in mainstream media. It may help you understand why trust in that is at an all time low.

@MMMMMMMMMMMP

6 ай бұрын

This is a poor discussion because he doesn’t answer the question of whether his ideology is promoting hatred of whites and those considered “settler colonialist”. When will he criticize the blacks and the Arabs instead of just the whites. Then I will listen to Peter Beinart

@TheNoseball87

6 ай бұрын

​@@MMMMMMMMMMMP what critiques would you like to hear of "blacks" (interesting choice of term) and "arabs" (an extremely large group of ppl to include Israelis)?

Getting louder "that they were not JUDAH!!

15:34 amazing strong statement

💯💯💯

What about simply because of the difference in the numbers of people who have been killed on each side? For a war, it's a big difference.

How did American celebrate Christmas whilst the oldest christians in Palestine did not. What does that say about American and there faith? Palestinians will defend themselves and create there own state in there own land without any inference by the West esp Israel & US. As far as Gazan natueal resources is concerned it belongs to Palestinians. The Israelis can also dream about there beachfront houses too. We need no one except God. Wait and watch world esp the West.

How can we make the clear distinction when laws are now being made that zionism equals judaism

This is the most reasonable and fruitful discussion or debate I have ever followed. As a Muslim, I have a big respect for all of you three. I am a follower of the Majority Report show.

@johnsmith7140

6 ай бұрын

Lol

@MMMMMMMMMMMP

6 ай бұрын

How is Islam and how are Muslims compatible with any kind of progressive society that Sam Seder, Emma and Peter Beinart want to see? Your religion is completely incompatible with their world view. Are you blind?

16:45 What America and the Latin American countries did to native populations was wrong. Yes it is in the past and the populations and cultures were different. Israel is removing people from homes that are built on land with property titles and based on Western style laws of property. Part of the dispossession of Native Americans was the difference in an understanding of property. This is why Israel does so much to destroy property records. None of this is right and I am in no way excusing America’s past, but the scale is different even if we are comparing past to present day civilized values.

@constantquestioning4010

6 ай бұрын

Your disingenuous agenda is clear

@paulheydarian1281

6 ай бұрын

The Zionists don't care. They see the Palestinians as less than human. To the Zionist mindset, the indigenous Arab population is an inconvenient impedence to be removed, just as the European colonial settlers removed the Native populations in countries such as Australia and the United States. The main goal of these colonial-settler societies is to do away with the natives at any cost.

@jds614

6 ай бұрын

Get over it

Simple common sense from all three speakers here, but common sense is not part of the equation for American and Israeli politics right now

Manifest destiny and American exceptionalism

No oppressor voluntarily relinquishes power.

divine central authority overcomes political government conflict

1. The problem is not what strategy to take to achieve peace with the Palestinians - the problem is what strategy to take with Israel who seeks an ethnic cleansing of that region. Palestinians aren't the problem, it's the Israelis - it's not Islamic militancy which is merely reactionary, it is Zionism which is proactive and the source of the conflict. 2. It's not just an identity relationship between the U.S. and Israel - it's also a policy one. Israel is an American outpost in the Middle-East. The difference between Israel and other Middle-East allies, is that the Israeli public supports the U.S. whereas the Middle-East public sees the U.S. as the Hegemonic power who has installed puppet governments to control the people and wealth. Thus, the U.S. sees Israel as their greatest ally in the Middle-East.

1,000,000 Syrians recently moved to Germany. 1.7 million Afghans are being deported from Pakistan back to the Taliban.

@paulheydarian1281

6 ай бұрын

Pakistan is an incredibly poor and a highly dysfunctional rump-state. Germany (Pre Ukraine War) was an Industrial powerhouse that needed young workers. Try comparing like with like next time.

Absolutely correct . The US and Israel share the same principle of , “ manifest destiny “ . “We are more civilized than the indigenous people . “

This Persuet Person From Mid East Region .

No one asks the Palestinians what they want after the Gaza invasion . Boy no one has facilitated any ethical resistance , instead the get punished for it .

45:30 I think Sam was trying to allude to the contribution of different religious/erhnic/immigrant sections in Israeli society to the rise of the fascist right. Which Beinart seemed to have not really wanted to touch on. Few universal truths in demographic statistics in Israel: 1. Mizrahi/Sephardic Jews (who comprise about 60% full of partial ancestry of Israeli population) are highly right wing and nationalistic. Whether they'd be religious, secular or traditions-observant. 2. Ex-Soviet Jews (15% of population) are largely secular but tend to be heavily nationalistic. Yet are liberal on social contentious issues like Shabbat observance/ Rabbinate monopoly on civil unions. 3. Ethiopian Jews (2% of population) tend to almost universally be nationalistic and Likud supporters. 4. Then you get religious zionists (10%) (mostly Ashkenazi, but some Mizrahi and mizrahi/ashkenazi mixed) are at the forefront of the settler project, and the delusional dreams of claiming the whole land of Israel. 5. An offshoot of them are the Haredi zionist (like Ben Gvir). They're a small extreme minority. Largely made up of settlers, but get strong support among working class non-fully religious Mizrahi youth. 6. Ultra-Orthodox Jews (10% of population). Largely Ashkenazi, who are usually disengaged from some state contribution like military service and are isolated in terms of official education. Mostly neutral towards the "Zionist" state, yet aligned with the right wing politically for opportunistic reasons. A subset of Sephardic Haredi Jews exist (1/3 of total Haredim) they're more engaged with the state and workforce and harbor much more right wing Zionist tendencies. 7. General "secular population". (40% of population). Can comprise of mostly secular Ashkenazi, some Ashkenazi-Mizrahi mixed, and some Mizrahi. Who are on the spectrum between central-right, central, and left-wing zionists. Usually liberal on civic matters. Don't like Netanyahu. But are definitely buying into much of the war-effort propaganda during this war. (Which does normalizes fascistic rhetoric, as per the usual dehumanization of Palestinians). But the reason for a slight rise in far-right support is largely due to higher support for far-right party among working class Mizrahi youth. Likud is also comprised of largely mizrahi voters (older more established). While some degree of higher birthrates among Haredis and religious zionists might play a role. But the increased normalization of right wing fascist ideology among general secular sector of society might also affect the changes.

"Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that, before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East."

@imperiald3864

6 ай бұрын

Except that isn't true. Remember ww1? Maybe look at a map of the ottomon empire and see where that is. Cause we literally went to war with almost everyone in the Middle east

There were no No Attacks on civilians the 7th. Just collateral. 500/1200-1300 (they keep magically decreasing) were soldiers. Out of 769 names, 462 military (55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants of whom 45 are sergeants majors, 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 13 captains, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, 2 Lance Corp). It was a Military defeat, they are taking it out on the rest. - analysis of haaraetz

NOT with my taxes! B. D. S. for Palestine 🇵🇸 שָׁלוֹם

Pray For Palistine

@johnsmith7140

6 ай бұрын

And Israel

Israelis are flocking to Dubai since the Ibrahim accord . Actually there are more Muslims there than in Palestine.

One state - equality for all. The colonizers should have a right to return to the European/N. American homelands

@paulheydarian1281

6 ай бұрын

Even those N.American homelands were stolen from different groups.

Complete nonsense. The Palestinians question is voted on every year in the United Nations, 192 countries to two. The US being the outlier and Micronesia. Voting against the resolution. Us is not going to support the Palestinian cause ever. This is a nonsense conversation with clearly Zionist leanings and rhetoric

@jds614

6 ай бұрын

Too bad the 192 nations don't matter and the u.s does 🤷🏻‍♂️ Noone cares what Peru or Holland thinks. Especially don't care what China ,Russia think Good god why would anyone care what Iran says on this matter

Itsdisgusting! Discussion focus on we allow them. WTF. You steal their homes, land, and now the discussion around we allow.

Peter I hope you are the president of United states we a person the world needs

It's the Israeli government, not the Jewish People! It's Hamas, not the Palestinian Civilians!