I feel like i see this caption about every game every single day. "why genshin players are quitting for wuwa", "why wuwa players are quitting for ZZZ", "wuwa dead at launch ?", "ZZZ dead at launch" "X company is scared of Y company" and the best one "Nuclear drama" and its just one random video or twitter/reddit thread.

@GerriFuryman

28 күн бұрын

Because all this CC dont have ingame content so they farm garbage content making shit out of thin air.

@rdr.erased

28 күн бұрын

Cause thats the comtent

@DDemiGodd

28 күн бұрын

@@rdr.erased sounds like a lack of creativity with a upload schedule.

@dan9563

28 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 there is nothing to do in online game especially gacha game. Online game just grinding, paying money, grinding, paying money. Nothing else. Thats why to fill the gap they start a drama 😂😂😂

@rdr.erased

28 күн бұрын

@@DDemiGodd I agree but it get clicks so I guess they dont care

Aye cut pokke some slack. We all know ZZZ not gonna be "dead on arrival" but bro gotta pay the bills somehow😂

@k.h6635

29 күн бұрын

Bros still gotta covering the game, that's how media taught us, no drama no bill 😂

@krazyaim

28 күн бұрын

Tbh these titles are getting a bit annoying

@justjuniorjaw

28 күн бұрын

KZread ain't paying if the people ain't clicking and the algorithm isn't pushing. Gotta game.

@DiegoPrs

28 күн бұрын

Imagine having to be this stupid to pay bills... People really don't want to actually work anymore

@basedchannel9105

28 күн бұрын

@@DiegoPrs Thats a pretty bad take. People like jake paul are pretty "stupid" imo but make millions off being stupid which is much more than we'll see in our lifetime.

HSR all over again lmao. "DEAD ON RELEASE ???" "NO HYPE ???" "X GAME IS MORE POPULAR ?" "SALES DECLINED REALLY FAST ???" "TURN BASED AND NO OPEN WORLD ?? HOW CAN IT COMPETE ??" ... And well... look at it now. i think ZZZ is a very different gacha game. it does not want to be Genshin or ride on it's success like some other games on the market rn. it has it's own unique style in terms of art, animation, designs and even story. this of course will probably make it not as successful as HSR or Genshin. but to say the game is DEAD on arrival is kinda dumb lmao.

It's entertaining to watch gacha tribalists fight. It's like watching 2 cults fight each other LOL.

@HowAreYou2

29 күн бұрын

its humane nature

@nikumilotic1333

28 күн бұрын

More like coke addicts vs alcohol addicts

@ninetyninenights6226

28 күн бұрын

@@nikumilotic1333 I'm pretty sure coke addicts don't care if you drink alcohol and vice versa.

@cheekynandos5888

28 күн бұрын

When football fans argue which team can contribute nothing to society the most

@tarakan_io

28 күн бұрын

@@ninetyninenights6226 well, yeah, because they too busy looking for a new dose or being passed out.

MrPokke: "This is going to be a quick video..." Proceed to yap for 15 minutes straight

@jinjason

29 күн бұрын

bout to comment this 😂

@marcotibayanmalone7158

28 күн бұрын

Domain expansion: Restless yappening

@Satyr42

28 күн бұрын

I recommend you go to the doctor, because you might a hamster with that attention span of yours.

@Krymms

28 күн бұрын

At least he yaps in 1.5x speed 😅

wuwa have 30 million pre-registrations: insane nuclear giga holymoly zzz have 45 million pre-registrations: DEAD ON LAUNCH

@AnnR8214

28 күн бұрын

Yeah, so stop crying anymore..zzz have 45 million pre reg, unless the majority of those are bots(or just for show), zzz fans should stop feeling insecure about every criticism 😆

@member.5290

28 күн бұрын

@@AnnR8214 spreading misinformation and doom posting when game doesn't even come out=criticism -_- I swear, this is the same people who "criticizing" hsr for being a turn based game.

@broccoli5176

27 күн бұрын

@@member.5290 Don't pay any attention to him, coz kuroshill doesn't know what criticism is.

im just saying rn, the hype for hsr back then were very minimal too, the ratio of people who doesnt like it to people that does like it is like 70/30 which make sense since its a completely different gameplay style, me too is one of those 70%, but the second i try hsr, i suddenly realised how good it was, and i would say others also have similar experience, what im trying to say is, just dont care any of the hate comments, just try the game, if u like it, u will like it, if u hate it, u will hate it. there is nothing wrong by giving it a try.

@thornszk

28 күн бұрын

Idgaf about hsr back then. I was one of the doomposters. Didn't even try to install first 3 days. Now look at me playing 2 accounts lol

@hipunpun

28 күн бұрын

Yeah before launch people were complaining about it being turn-based & thought it would be dead on arrival. Considering HYV track record, there's a good chance ZZZ beats expectations.

@troy2223

23 күн бұрын

Dude HSR wasn't as hated as ZZZ upon release, most hi3rd players were extremely hyped for it, the game basically had a loyal fanbase before it even released.

@Clmrn

23 күн бұрын

@@troy2223 no it was, but ur point is right,the HI3 player were hyped because welt was there and all, but those were only the HI3 player, thats why i said 70% and 30%, not all people hate it, but more does. the turn base combat was HEAVILY criticized, saying the combat is boring, game you would play before you sleep, etc.

@troy2223

23 күн бұрын

@@Clmrn the criticism was right, the gameplay is very simplistic compared to R:1999 or FGO or a lot of gacha games out there, it wasn't even original, heavily "inspired" by The Legend of Heroes franchise. However it's still successful regardless because most turn base gacha players actually don't care that much about gameplay rather than story and character because most of them are casuals, HSR has exactly that and so it's popular. It's quite the contrary for action game players, no matter if the game has amazing animation and story, if the combat is boring players will leave. Among the pure hate comment there are still a whole lot constructive criticism one pointing this out, even back then in the beta yet Mihoyo is so arrogant they don't care at all.

No. No it is not. It’s a hoyo game. It will survive the test of time

Editor came in clutch at the end. Thanks for the caption!

"Zenless Zone Zero dead on launch" Me looking at their 40M pre-register : 👁️👄👁️

@Yuukine2365

29 күн бұрын

Also me looking at their 200k 3 day trailer 5 days before launch? 👀

@momox22917

29 күн бұрын

​@@Yuukine2365 maybe they do not care at trailer they care the 1st impression gameplay let just see the release and their revenue future revenue.. to see if the playerbase is 45m truly.

@reedsad4652

29 күн бұрын

​@@Yuukine2365this dud thinks that people are watching trailers on youtube. Lmao, go bili2 oh i forgot you cant Americans

@Yuukine2365

29 күн бұрын

@@momox22917 that's a long wait for revenue though since it launches at the 3rd day of the month

@raweltz

29 күн бұрын

​@@Yuukine2365idk what you are on about when wuwa channel views are literally lower than zzz channel views and zzz havent been released yet

"im not getting the same amount of fun from hsr" -said double c6 owner like, sure its fun to see big numbers but not all the time and against every fight. maybe try using more 4 stars?

just a quick look on the people spamming zzz chat and you would notice many of those are part of tectones community, i recognize that dude with the Encore pfp shitting on everyone the entire time before the stream started he is a tectone shill, you saw tectones video the other day he is waiting for endfield to come out to shit on the game and piss the community (his own words not mine) this attitude is pushed by huge CCs and then the sheeps follow, he is not the only one who does this but man his community is trully something.

@veronicaa7748

28 күн бұрын

i dont get his hate on Endfield. like really, at least give any good reason why its bad

@hoanglehuy132

28 күн бұрын

​@@veronicaa7748​@veronicaa7748 tectone hates arknights community because it was "toxic" ( After he left the community somehow magically turned peaceful) and now every game related to arknights is automatically shat on by him. So some chatters are regurgitating that without much critical thinking.

@CzDelta92

28 күн бұрын

@@veronicaa7748 not even about endfield, the thing is he had beef with them 4 years ago and like a petty child he cant let go, he still pretends he doesnt care and is a mature man but lets be real a mature person is not going around shitting on everyones porch because a few people dislike him, he say in another video he didnt had any beef with them only 1 creator and recently he says the entire community hates him so he feels like he needs too, someone told him that most people dont even know who he is in the ak community and he just went with an idiotic response of how they deserve to be annoyed just because of his past beef, literal manchild.

@dandyshark6094

27 күн бұрын

@@veronicaa7748 he got "drama" with the arknight community , then 1 CC try to talk with him , escalate to drama ,the community agree with this CC and blacklist Tec , thats what i get. the rest is just like other replies said. if u want review on games just dont find it on react CC like Tec, better if try it yourself

Low level calamity drops is there. If you're at a certain UL level it just means you need to kill the 2nd easiest difficulty. For me at UL54 I'm allowed to get echoes from the 3rd easiest difficulty ie level 60 calamity boss.

I'm personally very excited and has been waiting for its release for years. No matter how many doomposting mfs there are, I will just form my own opinion and play it myself. If it disappoints me then so be it. If it turns out I like it, that's great

@ragehippo1895

28 күн бұрын

Well fucking said mate couldn't have worded it better. Stop hating on a game you aren't looking forward to fuckheads

@KaiserBrasil

28 күн бұрын

based

@dandyshark6094

27 күн бұрын

u drop your crown my lord👑

You know Pokke, I have played and been in gacha space for years now. Most of my time was mostly spent on Genshin Impact. I spent so much money and years of my time on that game that thinking back it was fun but of course fun expires as time goes on. I quit genshin later on and play other games such as HSR and now that too after a year feels a chore to do, 2 months in Wuwa is also feels that way now which is really sad. I really am seeing the way of “If the game is not fun anymore why bother?” And it all started by fucking quitting Genshin for good. I can see myself be out of gacha game in the future because my god I didn’t think other game that isn’t gacha and ALSO CHEAP AS FUCK would be so fucking fun. I have spending my time playing Minecraft ever since. Wuwa 1.1? That can fucking wait, Firefly? Bored of it after a week. Yeah i can really see myself be out of gacha in the future if this continues

@wetnoodlex

26 күн бұрын

Good for you, man. Most games are meant to be seasonal. You jump from title to title, going back occasionally. Gacha games are also supposed to be like that, playing at the start of every patch and quitting for a month or so, but the fear of missing out on pulls is what gets you, making you log in daily for those itty bits of gemmies. Personally don't mind it, but when games like WuWa take like 15 minutes of maintenance to get through to the fun stuff, it does get annoying. Genshin dailies aren't so bad and I've clocked like 5 minutes when loading screen gods are generous. Star Rail is even easier with the autoplay, albeit taking a bit longer. Anyway, try out Bomb Rush Cyberfunk. Game's dope.

Mr Pokke: *yapping* That one chatter: "Pelir" My man 😂

Bruh my zzz cannot be open idk why it keep force stop while loading i play WW and genshin with really smooth...so whyy bruh

Speaking from talking to my friend group (there all in there 20's and 30's) were all willing to try ZZZ for fun but will prob not play it long term simply because we don't have enough time to balance 3 gacha games especially when we all play wuwa and wuwa takes more time than most other gachas (we are hardcore players that do a daily mob clear route everyday)

@dandyshark6094

27 күн бұрын

wow the dedication , so nice to grind together with friends and full map , i want to be young again like in school, but also scared because internet exposure to children now is too dangerous for my opinion :(

I think its probably cause right now there is genshin honkai star rail wuthering waves and many other good gachas out so most gacha game players are already playing atleast 2 or 3 so if there already at their limit they may be doomposting so that like you said all their time wont be wasted

I'm gonna try zzz, it might be like HSR and doesn't demand a lot of time but if it's just as slow as genshin I might not stay long..

hoyo ccs and community try not to make drama out of everything challenge ( impossible )

@rushman32_198

29 күн бұрын

Ok buddy . You cross the line😡😡😡

@bertabuanaputra1943

28 күн бұрын

@@rushman32_198 what line? Isn't that always the case?

@yustian7197

28 күн бұрын

Genshin Community = Wuwa Community. they ar toxic af, just in different way...

@nhavinedyourking7593

28 күн бұрын

@@bertabuanaputra1943 sarcasm

@tp9516

28 күн бұрын

You mean tectone lmao. Bro is on Twitter 24/7 bringing the energy directly to youtube to make an even bigger mess

I don't like wuthering tbh, it has a very negative impression for me especially back in cbt where they prioritized other regions except mine (i waited for nothing) and its also the feeling like its genshin do this and that again everyday but back when it was released i didn't whine or say shit about the game, i just didn't watch pokke or other streamers whenever they'll stream it or post content. The lesson here is just don't give an f rather than wasting your time saying negative stuff that won't even affect anything at all and enjoy playing those games that you like. No reaction, insane.

@troy2223

23 күн бұрын

Let me guess, Vietnamese?

I played a ton of gacha games before genshin came out but i never saw the ftp vs whale, hoyo vs wuwa fights between any gachas ive played. Ive never understood why people limit themselves to stick with one game cause as a "gacha player" i rotate thru a bunch of gachas Some i play daily and others i wait for an update, but none become a main game to the extent ill ride and die for 😅

@dandyshark6094

27 күн бұрын

because gacha player old days is really not too many and the game not mainstream. just think Genshin is a new gacha open world 1 of kind and can be played on PC mobile PS, almost everyone from every age play it and what u get? casual/toxic people/entitled people/streamer who join the ride/other patform player/ actual gacha player. now think of old gacha like GBF, i think only old gacha player or their fans who really know the game unlike genshin almost everyone know it. even my family know GENSHIN while im playing actually is LIMBUS COMPANY

@troy2223

23 күн бұрын

Everybody simply hate Genshin bro, it's always X game vs Genshin it's not a gacha game community problem. FGO, Nikke, Arknight, R:1999 players have no problem with eachother.

I will try zzz 100% Then we look. I have 1 gacha that i am playing. Its hsr

12:00 yep, happened to me in WuWa 2 weeks ago

I'm gonna try it out at least and it I like it, I like it. I'm already tired of trying to do so many work arounds to make Wuthering Bugs work just to play almost every single day. I can't even get into the fucking game after the 1.1 update.

im going to be playing zzz more than wuwa for a while because wuwa character designs just dont hit for me. i feel like they will eventually hit the mark for me personally with a new character so ill keep it installed on my pc until then.

I've pretty much outgrown all of this tribalism mentality. I only stick to the gachas that i still enjoy playing yet still being open to whatever gacha game that comes out that piques my interest. *Results may vary

I really wish I had time to play these many games, I'm gonna check out ZZZ cause I've been following the game for over a year by now and I really like the aesthetic, the music, and the character designs, but honestly the only reason I'm logging in WuWa is to get pulls for Changli and her sword, I'll probably stop playing a bit after getting her cause the things I look for in a game just aren't there in this one, the story is lackluster and decent at best, the music has improved but it's still mid and the character designs are mostly boring to me, and the biggest one, the game runs like ass meanwhile I can play Genshin and HSR with their highest settings with no issue and I expect it'll be the same with ZZZ lol

Some hateful cc’s surely fueled this tribalism 🤷‍♂️

@joshbrosh6626

26 күн бұрын

Cough cough bald cough cough

The real reason is most gacha players in real life are your average personality less people so they attach themselves to their game so badly they make it their whole personality

I love how people are commenting on the game and it's combat when it's not even fucking out yet

for me I love genshin but am always out of content so I tried playing star rail, didn’t like it, and now I’m trying zzz and hopefully will prefer a game with more button mashing and no afk gameplay but if I don’t like it then I’m reinstalling star rail again cause star rail at least has good story

It feels like a lot of folks are weirded out by how some characters are presented (me too), or uninterested since the combat is relatively standard. I think sunk-cost fallacy can only go so far when we compare this launch hype to a game like Azure Pro... idk how to spell it but yk Personally, I'm just looking forward to a new game. If it gets too Blue Archive I'll drop it.

Yeah, I spent so much time and money on DFFOO. And all those skins I purchased for my characters. All just evaporated into the digital mists of time

People can dislike a game for many reasons. There is tribalism in every space, but just because people compare and prefer something from another game of the same genre doesn't mean they are being tribalistic. Other than the animations, ZZZ doesn't do or offer anything new, groundbreaking, or outright improves mechanics compared to other games in the same genre. Also, let's not act like CCs like you, who make countless videos with titles like "This game is dead" or "Dead on arrival" are not fueling the animosity between different communities.

@catanaoni

28 күн бұрын

You are giving too much credit. A very large portion of gacha gamers are clueless children and adult children who lack the ability to comprehend not just reading, but the world around them, and the world inside their own heads. The type of people who recoil the moment they aren't being explicitly jerked off. This is the majority in every community, and I don't think they are capable of understanding comparison, nor are they looking for anything new and groundbreaking, in fact those are negatives.

@ganyumaindayone1112

28 күн бұрын

i dont dislike ZZZ per say, it may be a very good game gameplay wise i dislike hoyoverse agenda refusing to add any challenge in any of their game, and for a fighting focused game, being as easy as ZZZ is, and knowing it'll probably never be harder, (like unless u're an android masochist that cant use a controller thx to hoyoscum signing exclusivity with apple) , you'll never be in danger of dying 99% of the time, for me is a death sentence as a sweaty player that i am

@xemnasxiii3992

28 күн бұрын

​@@ganyumaindayone1112 ... To begin with why do you seek challenge in a gacha game ? This is the genre defined by it's ability to gamble for character based on their likeness the genre has just evolved to make the pretty character be a bit more valuable than just a good looking 2D art/3D model not because of their ability to bring challenge into the game heck the newer character more often than not powercreep the one existing and with that any content that you may have had difficulty with will become piss easy with those new toys. I'm just saying if you wanted a real challenge you'd make the best use of the summer steam sale going on rn to buy the souls games/souls game adjecent to get your fix not whine on here how Hoyo doesn't make hard games.

@absolutelyabsolute4671

28 күн бұрын

@@xemnasxiii3992 "why do you seek challenge in a gacha game" - Anime inspired art style - The game is marketed as combat focused, if it's always on easy mode then that feature is useless.

@nolol5445

28 күн бұрын

@@ganyumaindayone1112 zzz has said in livestream that it has a low skill entry point so that casuals can play, but the game modes offer more challenge for hard core players, you can also change the difficulty of story

Ty since your guides helped a lot when I was starting, but Is really weird to see you with this much clickbait and dramas, but oh well it brings views and We can't eat air.

i just don't like the combat and character design, it has nothing to do with other games

@Dendyaryadi

29 күн бұрын

for sure it have to do with the game made by hoyo hoyo bad kuro good mindset

@Myosotis5255

28 күн бұрын

@@Dendyaryadi He literally said it has nothing to do with other games he just doesnt like the game itself. trust me people can have preferences, I know that's crazy

@saulGOOD95

28 күн бұрын

​@@Dendyaryadii play a hoyo game named HONKAI STAR RAIL, yeah imagine that

@dariuszed9105

28 күн бұрын

@@Dendyaryadi Hey, Hoyoverse made Tears of Themis too, you're obligated to play it and enjoy it since it's also a Hoyoverse game, right?

@trichilocosm3427

28 күн бұрын

@@Dendyaryaditribesmen spotted

Im not hype for it but will try it as it seem interesting and more better mc genshin making me wish we knew more about travler

I want to play more gacha games as a f2p but my phone is weak as my flesh

i will definitely will play zzz because I personally haven't been enjoying hsr recently (especially due to all the new characters being busted) and added that i personally dont like turn based combat the only reason i stuck around is for the character interactions and story. but like i feel like zzz is breath of fresh air especially for anyone either wanting to have a more casual and flashy combat experience or just wants something with a more mature vibe that is more vibrant than wuwa (no shade, i love wuwa, just meaning how a lot of characters use a lot of whites and blacks along side a main color)

14:53 is where eminem sh*t his pants 😂😂

@sin9148

28 күн бұрын

😂

i don't care about tribalism thing, i try game to understand and enjoy it see if i like it or not. for ZZZ it feels like an split of Honkai impact 3rd the overall feeling is very similar but with Parry and a bit more added to it QTE thing which in terms it similar to PGR Ceberus Squad but the gameplays still feels like Honkai Impact 3rd which is more of a DMG check and oneside thing which can attract player who want to see number and spd than action fighter type of player. will it succeed or fail that idk. but if the one that oversee the ZZZ is that Genshin dude i think it gonna feels like Dead fish if it couldn't retains or bring in new player. tho i kinda like it's town area but gameplays i'm still have my doubt since i also play HI3.

I already played a bunch different gachas, and tbh with ZZZ the game is just bland for me, couldnt see something that I dont already have in the other games I play. But what you said about the playerbase is true, you cant say nothing about any game without some weird fanatic calling you out

@Dendyaryadi

29 күн бұрын

people said same thing before HSR release turnbase is dead genre etc and yet it become huge boom beating genshin and wuwa

@soraru.666

28 күн бұрын

@@Dendyaryadi turn based games were never dead, and a game becoming famous wont change my opinion about it

@Wanderer-th4tt

28 күн бұрын

​@@Dendyaryaditurn based dead was a god awful take especially when it's one of the most popular jrpg game types. Even aside from that hsr already had a guaranteed playerbase from loyal hi3 players. It reeled in more players later on with how good the story was and how they managed to keep on innovating changes in it. I mean to say hsr had a lot going for it from many aspects. Can't say anything about ZZZ yet ngl. The combat and animations look smooth but that's it.

@Pekovi69

28 күн бұрын

Turn base is really good for casual player😂 its like playing chess with extra move​@@Wanderer-th4tt

@danielcarrilho5217

28 күн бұрын

@@Dendyaryadi HSR didn't beat genshin by any metric not to discard your point tho, its still quite more popular than ppl expected before launch

You really make the yapfest type of videos bearable by talking in 1.5x speed. Saving me 2 click ♥ Gonna spend them on comment and a like now instead.

To me, its free so why not? If i like it then ill be playing it longer. Then if another one comes, repeat step 1

Bro here thriving on drama.

Best time to play a gacha game is in the very beginning, anniversary, and when the game is failing. Cause they give you enough pulls to not have to worry about gacha, then they will give you enough energy to bypass the bs equipment gacha.

No drama is impossible, but greater competitiveness creates more productivity and better quality of products and services. Companies can satisfy player preferences and, consequently, attain a better position in the gacha games market. As for us can benefit from more rewards and a more comprehensive range of products and services Kudos to all players

0:02 nice

I played genshin since Klee banner have f2p and one where I spent money (not no more), I play star rail since Kafka rerun and the beginning of wuwa and the thing with zzz is that while some characters look good everything else looks mediocre at best, unless you really really like zzz for whatever reason the other three are better games than zzz but that’s just me since nothing seems to hype me up for it

Tribalism isn't exclusive to gacha game or new.. AT ALL. Tekken players has triablism against other fighting game like Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter, vice versa. Heck, even martial arts has it's tribalism. You go to the gym regularly right? You know that calisthenic also has tribalism, crossfit as well. That just happens everywhere, even in race, and it's called racism.

@Rainin.7

25 күн бұрын

Human

So, Pokke playing Nikke confirmed?!

Billy is the only one reason I will play this game.

lol they think Zenless Zone Zero is dog shit now, wait til they see Hoyoverse's new "ANIMAL CROSSING" style game. Let this be clear, Hoyoverse is not targeting you, they're targeting the wide range of gamer audiences from different genres. If this game isn't for you, it isn't for you. Its not going to die. Its going to be the 2nd blue archive azur lane honkai impact 3rd type of community. Very small and gate keeps itself from outsiders.

They also said back then that HSR will be dead too, failed turn based game, and see now

Imagine, imagine if it's _possible_ to enjoy _multiple_ games for _different_ reasons..... I'm playing both *Genshin Impact* and *Wuthering Waves* as long as I get entertaining game play out of them.

you were right lamfao

i always tell myself : when you realize you're wasting your time on a video game, it's time to quit or take a break from the game (happened to me many times with WoW)

i'm not gonna say it's all hoyoverse fans but a lot of hoyoverse fans were this divisive when star rail came out and all 3 of these games are from the same company. i think a lot of these people that are like this before they have even played the game just have an unhealthy relationship with some of these games because they can't just enjoy a game for what it is itself instead they need every other game to be bad in comparison to the one they love. but if genshin or one of these games " fall off" they either just ran their course or the company didn't do enough to keep players interested. all of these games can exist at the same time

zzz should had been co-op, we don't have any co-op sand box games single player sandbox games is playout make it co-op to play with friends... 2 player is fine

Still gonna play ZZZ dry weeks in Wuwa means Time for ZZZ after grinding both game there are still more games to play that ain't gacha and has good replayability like FPS or MOBA. I don't know why people are angry about other people's opinion though.😂

It's completely about sunk cost fallacy. People who have invested hundreds of hours and dollars are frothing for their decisions to be validated. If they are playing the "wrong game", then that feels bad.

I'm not going to play zzz because it hasn't captured my attention enough to try it. Haven't seen anything I liked

Everything absolutely everything will have tribalism once its popular Pokke u might want to see how religious wars were started back in the days 😅 as for zenless the marketing is not as prominent there is not as much hype and thus people are just watching the fire burn until someone says its actually good

Back in the days of PC online games. I didn't want to play an online game that is very popular because the player base would be full of kids and/or bystanders playing or hanging out in PC shops. That player base is basically immature 99% of the time. Nowadays kids who don't have mobile phones to play mobile games will rent a PC and play it there.

Bro just explained Jen$h!† me@†riders in the 1st half of the video 😂

Only happen in Hoyo games? Nah. It definitely happen before, for example kancolle vs azur lane, e7 vs fgo. People just like to compare and hating on something that they aren't fond of. And Hoyo just happen to be so big that you see more of this.

@Rainin.7

25 күн бұрын

Is it still happening between kancolle vs azur lane? Anyway don't forget pgr (kuro previous game) vs aether gazer 😂

bro zzz has 45 mln preregistrations, how tf it could be dead game lol

@hoque_01

29 күн бұрын

people thinks, you and i not playing = dead. think about how human mind works. they think everything revolves around them so.🤨

@niernightgaming2925

29 күн бұрын

45 mil pre registration but why is no one watching pre release program ,recent character demo,not even half a mil views .Out of 45 mil not even 500 k excited to watch all of that?👀

@joey9424

29 күн бұрын

​@@niernightgaming2925bots

@reedsad4652

29 күн бұрын

We asian dont tent to be here in yt or twitch. Check bili2 your mind will explode​@@niernightgaming2925

@foliaxx

29 күн бұрын

@@niernightgaming2925 all of the viewers were on the streams man… i am so excited with game, but 25-minute livestream was enough to push me into goosebumps views on videos not really showing the real hype of the game same situation was with star rail, but now it is the gacha game which earn money the most. understand what am I talking about?

wth is that closing speech, is he say something ?

Im pretty optimistic about this game.. anything thats a combat game is good for me haha

For ZZZ especially I just think the designs are very... bland. There are a few interesting tropes they never dared to touch in their other games but overall the designs feel by far the weakest out of all hoyo games. The combat is okay, but there doesn't seem to be anything outstanding about it and there's more than enough good combat games out there already. Just for combat I would probably prefer Aether Gazer for example, not to mention PGR. And then there's the TV system that people absolutely hated in the CBTs that I doubt they removed xD So in ZZZ's specific case it does just seem very... average I would almost say. It's a good game, but is it worth it to replace another gacha that you already love? Maybe not.

Star Rail spoiled me, I'll wait and see how ZZZ develops

I mean, I think it's normal to have to choose which games to prioritize right? It's just that the audience of these games tends to average out to be quite young (teens to mid 20s), so maybe that's why there's always so much "rage"? i guess? Like... I'm 37, have a full time 9-5 job, with weekends sometimes. I've acknowledged and accepted that I probably cannot play all the games out there in my lifetime. So I just have to CHOOSE the games I like more. And right now it is Genshin AND Wuwa. I'm sorry, ZZZ, as great as you look, I just cant afford the time to play another gacha game. The people complaining just need to grow up and look at it from a more mature perspective. Also, those of you who feel angry or upset or whatever have to wake up and be aware that you're experiencing "sunk cost fallacy" into these games. Gotta wake up and realize that you are spending too much money into these games if this phenomenon is becoming an issue for you.

People do this because they want to cope themselves into not picking up ANOTHER gacha game and becoming addicted and emptying their wallets. Let them be, their finances are at stake here.

People don't understand this at all so I will have to lay it out and keep it a 100. Just because the game isn't popular doesn't mean the game will die. If it looks enticing enough, the story is engaging, colorful characters, beautiful music. Its going to do very well. People said Blue Archive was waifu, pedo bait dog shit without even trying the game out. Look where Blue archive is at right now. Its community is small, but its good enough to have its own anime. Its one of the best gacha gaming communities I ever been in. Yeah it has its share of funny autistic down bad degenerates making cute& funny jokes, but we never argue about characters, their performance, or who they ship & shit. Its mostly chill as ice. My guy in christ, F&^%ING BLUE ARCHIVE GOT AN ANIME FIRST BEFORE GENSHIN IMPACT DID! If this doesn't tell you how well the game is thriving, then I don't know what will. If zenless zone zero takes a page from Blue Archive. Zenless Zone Zero will be fine without the annoying toxic autism usual hoyo fanbase (Genshin, Wuthering Waves, Star Rail).

Most gatcha gamers don’t have the benefit of being a streamer whose job is to play them, and get funded by their viewers when they do. So it’s literally a sunk cost that most streamers can’t imagine because very few play F2P, and can at least partially whale in every game they try because of their viewers donations. Most players have to actually invest their own limited money, so they can’t max out an account in a new gatcha every time one comes out.

Damn finally Pokke has an opinion

The tribalism is kinda insane, but its not a surprise the CC communities here on youtube at least the more popular ones. Have slowly bred a large following of Hoyo haters they despise how Genshin was handled and dont trust the company. Also WuWa has unfortunately an issue where a lot of fans love to bring up Genshin whenever talking about their game leading to a more toxic fanbase in relation to hoyo games. This leads to most discussions about ZZZ becoming quite toxic, Hoyo haters shit on Hoyo then Hoyo fans shit on them with equal hate so on so forth and most big CCs seem to play into the toxicity. People dont need to like ZZZ its fine neither WuWa or ZZZ are gonna die and we wont know how people really feel until release. The quiet majority is always hard to predict imo, despite people hating Genshin loudly here they're doing great and most players still love the game so we just gotta wait to see what people as whole will think of ZZZ on release.

7:12 I mean it's quite simple, some people have developed a certain hatred towards Genshin and some of them even hate Hoyoverse in general, they were just looking for a "Genshin killer" or just a "better Genshin" to play. Now, consider this: like you mentioned, about 60% of your chat is open-minded about trying new games and they're willing to play ZZZ. And About 40% of your chat wants to cut ties with Genshin. When Wuthering Waves was released, the 60% open-minded group played the game, and so did the 40%. It makes sense that you didn't feel the gacha tribalism in the case of Wuwa.

@MefoWho

28 күн бұрын

its easy to be validated when you hate genshin. OMG what are those rewards, imagine playing a game for consistent content (or the lack of it if it doesnt cater to you) instead of 2 mins of clicking the 10x button. that being said, stuttering wave really shown me how much of a potato i have and how much i appreciate genshin for not cookin it that hard

IMO, not being able to use your characters that you have pulled for in the overworld is bad. Even HI3 Part2 allows it in its overworld. Wonder what the director behind ZZZ is thinking...Also, lack of aerial combat. How can a game regressed from its 8 year old sibling lol

@Dendyaryadi

28 күн бұрын

if you check IGN gameplay the devs make playable character have their own life to do on IGN video you can see ellen attending school when she is not working for victorian maid

I do think ppl are tired of hoyo being kinda famous and they see a new game as something like "look at those mfs trying to get my money again" even if the game in a vaccum turns out to be really good. as with everything that gets famous, ppl tend to hate on it just because. Im not trying to whiteknight for mihoyo but tbh, they did a good job at making the whole gacha game industry a better place for the consumer, genshin and star rail are free and they are just as awesome as some paid games.

zzz is not going to die. I just have no fucking desire to invest in a 3rd Hoyoverse game which will surely bury the competition like it already does. The only reason that could push me to play this game is the abandonment of the 50/50 system. I prefer to stay on wuthering waves which is cheaper than losing my shaft on a character and his weapon in zzz

@depressoexpresso8469

28 күн бұрын

Felt

@fomingera65

28 күн бұрын

who cares though?

@pretty.billy.

28 күн бұрын

Yeah but weapons are also around 64 percent more damage than the f2p option in wuwa. That’s why there is no 50/50. The weps are almost mandatory, why does no one mention this?

@batperson3532

28 күн бұрын

@@pretty.billy. shhhh because devs are listening.

@depressoexpresso8469

28 күн бұрын

Alot of people get by without the weapons, it just boost by 20% I saw in a video before, if you can't get by without them then that's actually a you problem and don't know how to set up a character

teccys the only one who I see is actually excited for this game lmao

@dragonade8671

29 күн бұрын

zzz game targets new audiences, the game is very different from genshin or wuwa, if you dont like it no need to hate it, its like for example you hating on cs go if you main Dota 2, or if you hating dota 2 if you main cs go. thats how most people haters mind works. people need to respect other audiences desires.

@dragonade8671

29 күн бұрын

ZZZ is probably good for mobile users due to dungeon style of the game, zzz is like a pesona type game. if you know, u know. if you dont keep mouth shut.

@death.sentence

29 күн бұрын

@@dragonade8671 but also people need to understand that just because you say something you dont like about a game doesnt mean you are hating

@karantej6702

29 күн бұрын

what are you talking about he is the biggest hater of hoyo BCS they banned him

@scopeyui240

29 күн бұрын

rare teccy W every game deserve a chance

so far it's a movie where I press a button here and there. this is not a game.

I'm sure that the current Hoyoverse WILL NOT BE ABLE to make a game "Death on Arrival". But they are not immune to being "Underperformed" compared to their last released game. And that's what I see for ZZZ. I just saw nothing new.

@reedsad4652

29 күн бұрын

You havent seen the ammount of doompost against hsr? Its way worse because its turnbased look how this mfs licking hoyos other yag

this is basically what asmongold's take on why gacha tribalism is and how its the same as mmo but instead of time invested we have money spent and if the new game is better and people leave the game you spent your time or money in then their investment also loses "value"

ZZZ is impossible to die on arrival as the Hoyoverse fanbase is too huge, they will hop into every new game Hoyo releases. But I doubt how ZZZ can maintain their players with the systems in the game such as good old Hoyo character raising system, no jumping on an action-combat game, the TV mechanic, and characters not as appealing as their previous games (personal opinion).

How come zzz gets a console release but not wuwa

@Thedoorway123

28 күн бұрын

Because wuwa sucks

@reivell3699

28 күн бұрын

because wuwa is just tencent trash

Genshin players specifically are notorious for doomposting newer gacha games and attacking other gacha communities for having fanservice and praising genshin for not having bikini skins lol

no hoyoverse game will DOA in release

ZZZ will thrive just because it's a hoyo game. And the fan-servicy designs. It's not for me as I don't want to invest in another hoyo game but I hope it thrives. Competition will only do us good. Especially when the big ones started releasing like Promelia, Mugen, and Endfield.

I think for lots of people Genshin Impact was their first or maybe their first gacha game. I am not interested in ZZZ. Playing 3 gacha games (Star Rail, Genshin, Wuthering Waves) is too much, I might quit Genshin.

Well, it ain't anything new. It's pretty much just like dunking on your rival sports team. The companies actually encourage these kinds of interactions to spread word of their games. Tribalism sells. It only seems more apparent for mihoyo games coz the tribe is just that big. Just like it was nothing new when WoW was doing its thing, but it was so all encompassing because the WoW playerbase was just so much bigger compared to everything else on the market.

For me is dead for sure, but not because it's good or bad I already have too many games and I have a policy no more than 1 Hoyo game and only if its good I already play HSR Wuwa and Reverse 1999 Elden Ring so its easy skip for me.

Furry is a main mascot of a game and children female characters in zzz have more revealing clothes than adult female characters in WuWa

arknights, pgr, wuwa, hsr, blue archive, league and valorant i can't add another more game 💀

Pokkes content when he has to pay bills zzz is gonna be fine lol

This tribalism is also sustained by the fact that these games are not necessarily objectively good. Yappy dialogues, underdetailed scenarios, a grindy gameplay experience. The wuthering wave quests have been great so far but can i recommend this game to my friend who only plays actual buyable games? Probably not . And in turn every time a new gatcha releases it is a case of "would i actually like to play another mid-good game". 50:50 players say "no" .

Most of them are children who new gacha games and hoyo games are their first gacha

@joey9424

28 күн бұрын

Pretty much. You can tell they are kids by the way they argue with you.