Is Your Private Internet Data Being Harvested From Undersea Cables?

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Your internet data travels around the world in a fraction of a second and in the process it will travel through some of the 1.3 million Km of undersea fibre optic cables but how secure is it from not only being cut but also from wiretapping and data harvesting on a vast scale by not only you government but that of hostile states.
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  • @CuriousDroid
    @CuriousDroid3 ай бұрын

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  • @steveshoemaker6347

    @steveshoemaker6347

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks Paul.....i am going to get your Hoverpins offer ....Shoe🇺🇸

  • @bowdlerise

    @bowdlerise

    3 ай бұрын

    ShadowGate 2.0

  • @eSKAone-

    @eSKAone-

    2 ай бұрын

    Backdoors for sure

  • @AltimaNEO

    @AltimaNEO

    2 ай бұрын

    Missed opportunity for a VPN advertisement 😂

  • @williamromine5715
    @williamromine57152 ай бұрын

    Laying a cable from the UK to the U.S. in middle of the 1850s, has always amazed me. They didn't have the ability to map the ocean bottom, so they weren't able see if sea floor had mountains, trenches etc. The effort was quite a gamble, and I still don't how they did it.

  • @patreekotime4578

    @patreekotime4578

    2 ай бұрын

    The engineering and manufacturing feats of just building the cables is what gets me. They had to be strong enough to hold thier own weight and miles long... in an era before synthetic rubber... its an almost incomprehensible feat.

  • @phil20_20

    @phil20_20

    2 ай бұрын

    It broke. 😅

  • @patreekotime4578

    @patreekotime4578

    2 ай бұрын

    @@phil20_20 Yes, and then they did it again. And again and again.

  • @Ottee2

    @Ottee2

    2 ай бұрын

    @@patreekotime4578, You know what else is hard to do? Escaping Earth's gravity and going to the Moon and return safely. Only one nation has done it, and even they have not tried it, again, for decades now. Quite a feat.

  • @patreekotime4578

    @patreekotime4578

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Ottee2 Is this a competition? Because if its a competition, then doing something OVER ONE HUNDRED YEARS LATER seems like it would automatically lose the competition. 🤷‍♂️

  • @ramblerandy2397
    @ramblerandy23973 ай бұрын

    Very good video. it was particularly interesting to me as a former undersea fibre-optic employee of a defunct British company called STC [Standard Telephones and Cables]. For a few years back in the 1980-90s we were making the state of the art, and this message may very well be travelling through one of our existing cables [they do last well if undisturbed]. When I joined STC I went from starting in the coiling tanks to becoming a fibre optic jointer [note, not joiner]. I was one of a team that would join together a huge length of cable from one tank to another huge cable length in another tank, and so it progressed. At 11:05 there's a good example of a cable joint ready for use. So good could the joints be that there might be virtually no losses during mesurement. I have one story about a UK to Denmark cable that was unrepeated [that is unamplified or boosted], so the losses had to be minimal. It was around 1990, and I had laser welded 24 pairs of fibres together. A technician had a set of figures on his screen for one cable length. They was perfect. So he had set up the equipment to test for losses after my welds. That is, he put a receiver at the far end of the next cable. then he went for his lunch. Instead of going for mine I continued on the joint. So back he came as I was about to leave. He looked at his equipment. He didn't know that I'd already made the welds. IIRC he said, "Tell me when you complete the welds [or something like that]. "I've done them", I replied. And that was the thing. There were no losses at all in that joint. I held the [world?] record for about 24 hours. After that the joint was choppeed out due to errors in a subsequent moulding process that encompassed the fibres. It was said that each joint cost a million dollars to make, so chopping one out was a tad disappointing. STC was eventually bought by Canadian company Northern Telecom [Nortel].

  • @sirjabbas

    @sirjabbas

    2 ай бұрын

    Great story. Thx for sharing :)

  • @IndaloMan

    @IndaloMan

    2 ай бұрын

    First time I have seen STC referenced in a comment! As a fellow employee of Standards Travelling Circus at the end of the 70s I spent many months training at the New Southgate factory (Building 53) to commission TXK3, TXK4 and TXE4 telephone exchanges. A great subject for a future episode would be why did STC pull out of the System X consortium? That technological white elephant that was supposed to put UK plc at the forefront of the global telecoms industry. #goodolddays

  • @deus_ex_machina_

    @deus_ex_machina_

    2 ай бұрын

    Have you watched _BobbyBroccoli’s_ two-part documentary on Nortel?

  • @ramblerandy2397

    @ramblerandy2397

    2 ай бұрын

    @@deus_ex_machina_ No? I'll look that up, ta.

  • @MarkoVukovic0

    @MarkoVukovic0

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing that, love it! What do you do now, if I may ask?

  • @John-wx9oy
    @John-wx9oy2 ай бұрын

    It never ceases to amaze me how Paul finds subjects to discuss at length which are vitally important technologically or historically (and in this episode, perhaps politically) that we had not considered, or heard of, until then.

  • @ck17350
    @ck173502 ай бұрын

    It's important to note that the vast majority of traffic is encrypted via SSL and that data is unlikely to be harvested by anyone. There's plenty of meta data associated with that traffic, source, destination and the type of traffic which can be useful to some extent however the contents of that traffic remain unseen by anyone intercepting it. You don't have to go back very far, less than a decade, for capture of Internet traffic to have been useful prior to the widespread adoption of SSL for nearly every service however today, even a nation state is unlikely to get much use out of trying to sieve through practically incomprehensible amounts of data.

  • @5thgearouttahere

    @5thgearouttahere

    2 ай бұрын

    Bullshit, who are you trying to fool?

  • @EinzigfreierName

    @EinzigfreierName

    2 ай бұрын

    Government agencies employ tenthousands of people and spend billions on nothing else than solving this "problem". Unlikey that they don't have some degree of success on this.

  • @tjjones621

    @tjjones621

    2 ай бұрын

    @@5thgearouttahere I am clueless about this stuff and find it interesting. Can you offer any information that he's wrong or trying to fool people?

  • @Alex92837

    @Alex92837

    2 ай бұрын

    True won't be able to read contents, however governments will still be hoovering up all the data and archiving it and waiting for quantum computing to take off. There is speculation that quantum computing can decrypt traffic in instant compared to lifetime that would take to bute force it using traditional computing. Its called the quantum apocalypse.

  • @edc1569

    @edc1569

    2 ай бұрын

    @@tjjones621some people believe that common encryption protocols are all deliberately flawed. I disagree, modern encryption uses pretty simple mathematical models which are well understood, they’re not hard to demonstrate their security. I believe there would be a small period of time between security services breaking a fundamental security technology and someone outside of the security services also finding the same flaw - it’s not a zero day which you can just keep quiet about, it’s a fundamental algorithm flaw.

  • @npc_code
    @npc_code3 ай бұрын

    Thats why it is important to use encryption. Not only for sensetive information also for normal stuff. Send your cookie recopies encrypted and you will annoy the Agencies.

  • @LauraTenora
    @LauraTenora3 ай бұрын

    As a dressmaker, I was impressed by how well your dress shirt was crafted, with the patterns perfectly aligned. Ok... And I was also impressed by the interesting info and the engaging way in which it was presented 😊

  • @nancymedlin8682

    @nancymedlin8682

    3 ай бұрын

    Funny I too was abit taken by his shirt's design. 🙃wondering what exactly was it . A raccoon's face maybe? But also I agree well narrated with detailed cable info of it's history dealing w/personal data concerns .

  • @RCAvhstape

    @RCAvhstape

    3 ай бұрын

    He always wears wild shirts. That's half the fun of this channel!

  • @allankamen9875

    @allankamen9875

    2 ай бұрын

    go back to some of his earlier videos. He used to talk about his shirt and recommend the shop where he gets his shirts. This was his initial sponsor/funding for his channel.

  • @nancymedlin8682

    @nancymedlin8682

    2 ай бұрын

    @@allankamen9875 cool 😎

  • @bimblinghill

    @bimblinghill

    2 ай бұрын

    We need to get twitter's 'menswear guy' to do a Paul thread

  • @conor7154
    @conor71543 ай бұрын

    It’s probably being harvested at the source. They don’t need to go 4 miles down in the ocean to do that.

  • @honey_fungus

    @honey_fungus

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly … the ISPs are harvesting, everything on the wire is encrypted

  • @Chris_at_Home

    @Chris_at_Home

    3 ай бұрын

    The government in the USA was given access to most communications with their own access points set up permanently by communications companies for them as part of the patriot act. This includes phone switches and servers.

  • @EinzigfreierName

    @EinzigfreierName

    2 ай бұрын

    There is not always access to the source for various reasons. Tapping undersea fibre cables is a reality and they wouldn't do it they could access the same data much easier.

  • @EinzigfreierName

    @EinzigfreierName

    2 ай бұрын

    @@honey_fungus Not "everything" on the wire is encrypted. And there is a lot of metadata which is useful to "attackers". Also in a lot of cases, encryption can be cracked if necessary.

  • @FAB1150

    @FAB1150

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@EinzigfreierNameyes, everything that passes through those cables is encrypted. The encryption methods used haven't yet been cracked... So not yet. There's a reason they install backdoors on people's devices instead of just tapping into the cables.

  • @shaneelson
    @shaneelson3 ай бұрын

    The graphic/video at about 02:05 shows the link between mainland Australia, King Island and Tasmania, my home state. We had family friends who lived at and maintained the telegraph station on King Island. I visited them in the early 70s. Even back then the generator had battery back up.

  • @SurlockGnomez
    @SurlockGnomez3 ай бұрын

    Private data doesn't need to be harvested when thanks to the T&Cs of half your phone apps plus your ISP/phone carrier contracts allow it to be sold. To cover the other half you have agencies (operating solely for our protection of course and nothing to do with them identifying people who oppose the current regime) with access to the main router hubs that the under sea cables go to and from. I'd be amazed if any agencies hack under sea "public" cables; but rather they'd solely go after the military lines.

  • @Gurumeierhans

    @Gurumeierhans

    2 ай бұрын

    Not everybody lives in the US

  • @SurlockGnomez

    @SurlockGnomez

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Gurumeierhans Certainly not, I'm from the UK near GCHQ

  • @bobert4522

    @bobert4522

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Gurumeierhanswhat makes you think it’s only the US doing this?

  • @Gurumeierhans

    @Gurumeierhans

    2 ай бұрын

    @@bobert4522 Privacy laws in the EU for example

  • @JamesOversteer

    @JamesOversteer

    2 ай бұрын

    Look at the 5 eyes. They use each others agencies to get around laws about spying on their own people.

  • @nbrown5907
    @nbrown59073 ай бұрын

    The bulk of what I do and I bet many others is not over those cables. We have local servers for everything just about. Obviously if I want to see many awesome videos from folks like you it is either through that cable or a satellite.

  • @brantwedel

    @brantwedel

    3 ай бұрын

    All you would get is encrypted traffic for the most part. So probably the most useful data of would be if one country starts sending alot of data to another, you might be able to correlate that with something you know from on-the ground intelligence.

  • @Wineman3383
    @Wineman33833 ай бұрын

    Looking good brother! Awesome to see a new video. Thanks for what you do.

  • @Nightsd01
    @Nightsd013 ай бұрын

    Thank goodness for encryption. Even if they did tap into the cables, most of what they’d get would be garbage/noise

  • @bloopbleepnothinghere

    @bloopbleepnothinghere

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks to Google a vast majority of websites all use HTTPS. You'd have to be nuts to sign in and provide personal information on a non encrypted connection.

  • @AndrewGray1987
    @AndrewGray19873 ай бұрын

    What would be the point of harvesting internet data from a cable now? It's all encrypted. If the NSA wanted your Google search history they wouldn't have to scrape a cable, they would just ask Google to give it to them. If they wanted Signal messages they wouldn't scrape the cable and then take the data and run it through a supercomputer for 50 years to break the encryption, they would just use whatever back door Google engineered into Android or an exploit they bought off the exploit market. It's my understanding that all of the data storage they're doing now is to decrypt later with hypothetical quantum computers.

  • @chpsilva

    @chpsilva

    3 ай бұрын

    While it's true that most of web nowadays uses HTTPS, there is a ton of metadata that travels unencrypted, like DNS requests for example.

  • @AySz88

    @AySz88

    3 ай бұрын

    Not all traffic is encrypted, especially stuff like DNS (as mentioned) but also lots of "legacy" applications relied upon by businesses where the employees don't actually care about anything more than the paycheck so long as they don't get the blame. You can get information from just the timing of communications. The fact that it's going through the cable in international waters makes them "not domestic spying on fellow Americans" and overcomes some legal hurdles.

  • @kenanacampora

    @kenanacampora

    3 ай бұрын

    Encrypted. Hahahaha.

  • @wobuzhidaoification

    @wobuzhidaoification

    2 ай бұрын

    What if you weren’t the NSA? (There are other organisations outside America) 😂

  • @24VBMWPower

    @24VBMWPower

    2 ай бұрын

    You're right. Same thing with those pointless advertising claims of VPN providers.

  • @PleaseDontFeedTheAnimals
    @PleaseDontFeedTheAnimals3 ай бұрын

    Cheers for the videos mate

  • @YonHASH
    @YonHASH2 ай бұрын

    Very interesting as always, thank you!

  • @bondisteve3617
    @bondisteve36172 ай бұрын

    Splendid again as always Droid. Many thanks.

  • @jfbeam
    @jfbeam2 ай бұрын

    We've had "unrepeatered" cables for some time now. (optically regenerated without conversion to an electrical signal) Of course, we tend to use cables for as long as they physically last, so many "OEO" cables are still in operation. The amount of power loss from a "bend tap" is noticeable if the operator is paying attention.

  • @kami_1958
    @kami_19582 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Paul, for your videos! They are all incredibly good! Your speech is brilliantly clear, and there are few other places on KZread where you can see proper English subtitles (and also hear real BBC English spoken!)

  • @maxvaessen
    @maxvaessen2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the great content you keep making. ❤ very interesting

  • @gigakoresh
    @gigakoresh2 ай бұрын

    Most of internet traffic is encrypted, it's not like tapping is all that useful tbh. Only kind of data you are gonna get via that method is some protocol messages like BGP routing exchanges and DNS lookups

  • @Blox117

    @Blox117

    2 ай бұрын

    most dns is also encrypted now

  • @mbazzy123
    @mbazzy1233 ай бұрын

    Great subject, I've always been fascinated with this technology. The early cables experienced many failures in terms of the laying process, I think the early developers must have had deep financial pockets and nerves of steel.

  • @LonSeidman
    @LonSeidman2 ай бұрын

    I spoke to a Yale legal scholar about ten years ago for a news article I authored on this topic. Essentially the government is working off a legal theory that merely capturing and storing data is not unconstitutional until the data is actually looked at. So they are capturing everything (presumably) and need the warrant only when reviewing the private communications of a US citizen.

  • @Iroquois_Pliskin

    @Iroquois_Pliskin

    5 күн бұрын

    Now they dont even need a warrant. Land of the free...

  • @ozzymandius666
    @ozzymandius6662 ай бұрын

    Our own leaders are our own worst enemies.

  • @user-ww2lc1yo9c

    @user-ww2lc1yo9c

    2 ай бұрын

    Our leaders say if you are not doing something illegal, there is nothing to hide.

  • @CallMeCain
    @CallMeCain3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the information that will stand the test of time

  • @jsmithnevinsky
    @jsmithnevinsky2 ай бұрын

    It's harvested from 100s of different sources, regardless of whether undersea cables is a concern or not. And if it can't be harvested it's extrapolated and predicative modeled from previous patches of data by AI algorithms that are 10 years ahead of commercial release. So again, what are we learning from this video?

  • @romangeneral23
    @romangeneral233 ай бұрын

    Love every single one of your uploads!!!

  • @Aveance94
    @Aveance943 ай бұрын

    It's not being harvested it's being stolen. No need to dress it up.

  • @auggieaxiom5726

    @auggieaxiom5726

    3 ай бұрын

    It’s easier to harvest an entire countries data than it is to steal someone’s data

  • @JesseP.Watson

    @JesseP.Watson

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree and yet at the same time I can't help but think that, philosophically speaking, retaining exclusive ownership of electrical charges flying through someone else's cable under the sea amongst a maelstrom of other such clamour seems off somehow.

  • @No_one_cares_about_Ukraine

    @No_one_cares_about_Ukraine

    3 ай бұрын

    Do you own it?

  • @TheDasHatti

    @TheDasHatti

    3 ай бұрын

    @@No_one_cares_about_Ukrainemy spoken word and my written text are mine. And your channel name is wrong.

  • @chickenmonger123

    @chickenmonger123

    3 ай бұрын

    @@No_one_cares_about_UkraineDo I own the information I transfer through private means? Why yes. Actually. Granted the services I use don’t think so. They think it’s theirs. Use encryption for anything that matters.

  • @frankgulla2335
    @frankgulla23352 ай бұрын

    Thank you, CD for an interesting video on stealing information for underwater cables.

  • @akwinoz
    @akwinoz2 ай бұрын

    Another great insight !!!!!

  • @pomodorino1766
    @pomodorino17662 ай бұрын

    Thanks for another interesting video!

  • @maemilev
    @maemilev2 ай бұрын

    In my professional opinion, the data collected at the ISP level is often overwhelming and challenging to analyze effectively. While it may be possible to identify patterns such as frequent website visits or specific search queries, the sheer volume of data makes it difficult to draw meaningful conclusions. Additionally, relying on this data for surveillance or marketing purposes can be inaccurate, as the individuals who use the internet the most will naturally appear at the top of the statistics.

  • @5thgearouttahere

    @5thgearouttahere

    2 ай бұрын

    Yet another lie - do you think NSA & GCHQ will hire you, or do you work there already?

  • @cristibaluta

    @cristibaluta

    2 ай бұрын

    Not mentioning that you can't store it

  • @beayn
    @beayn2 ай бұрын

    There was an amazing game in 2000 called Deus Ex. The entire plot builds up to a reveal that all the world's communications are routed through a single Hub and monitored by the government (there's Aliens involved too but that is irrelevant). At the time, it was unheard of and a scary thought that we could be entering a time when this is reality. Today? It's almost expected.

  • @SA5OHR
    @SA5OHR2 ай бұрын

    Well… the signals are not electrically/electronically repeated or regenerated. You should read about doped fibers and how you boost the payload by injecting a pump laser into the doped fiber for the erbium ions to react and in the change of state it releases photons in the same wavelenght as the payload wavelenght/s. Undersea cables are watched for any abnormalities and loss and reflection is constantly monitored. Kinking the fiber will impact differend wavelenghts with different attenuation so its easy to detect macro- and micro bending. High security systems will in that event change route and cut signal. OTDR can measure kink distance so quite easy to locate activity. Better go for the land lines…

  • @alan-
    @alan-2 ай бұрын

    Such good content!

  • @thelandofnod123
    @thelandofnod1232 ай бұрын

    Nice shot of the submarine cable from Victoria through King Island to Stanley in Tasmania there.

  • @katchaontheflipside
    @katchaontheflipside2 ай бұрын

    So did u work together with the Today i found out channel? Since they published about the Ivy bells mission aswell today.

  • @AnarchoReptiloidUa
    @AnarchoReptiloidUa3 ай бұрын

    Great video. A comment to support video and channel. 😊😊😊

  • @dziban303
    @dziban3033 ай бұрын

    Thanks Varys

  • @andoletube
    @andoletube2 ай бұрын

    2:06 Nice to see Tasmania get some cable animation!

  • @phil20_20
    @phil20_202 ай бұрын

    Everything is recorded every time it's digitized. In fact, every switch, router, and phone, records you. What you want is to make sure it gets deleted. In the old days, phone workers would listen in for entertainment. We have come a long way technically, but people are still the same.

  • @penumbral_psithurism
    @penumbral_psithurism2 ай бұрын

    6:30 Would that be a form of Van Eck phreaking?

  • @withershin
    @withershin3 ай бұрын

    Your private data is typically harvested by interns at telecom companies. The spy thing is cool but not even close to realistic for "private" data. The irony is that people who love their VPN are way more susceptible to the under-water cable harvesting concept.

  • @robina.jensen6114
    @robina.jensen61142 ай бұрын

    The interception takes place where the fiber optic cables are sent into the sea. The HUB's are the easiest place to go on cables. A suspicion Edward Snowden aired many years ago. The NSA tapped all those HUBs. A few years ago, the cable cooperation was confirmed by the former Danish Minister of Defense Claus Hjort Frederiksen..

  • @ohkee
    @ohkee2 ай бұрын

    Very interesting !

  • @sprint955st
    @sprint955st2 ай бұрын

    8:33 Duncan Campbell wrote about GCHQ & NSA widespread wiretapping back in 1976 in Time Out magazine the U.K. Google him. This was old news years and years ago. Also, does fibre generate EM radiation? I don’t think so, I might be wrong. At the end of the day, if you read the excellent article in Wired magazine called “Mother Earth Motherboard” about undersea cables, it’s likely the data ‘tapping’ is well understood and widely adopted because people like Google are deploying more and more new cables, and their t and c’s state they can help themselves however they like.

  • @CybershamanX
    @CybershamanX3 ай бұрын

    (12:35) That's a crazy looking ship. 🤪😉😎

  • @Nighthawke70
    @Nighthawke702 ай бұрын

    Not likely. IVY BELLS taught the military and telecoms how to shield and guard their data in undersea cables even more so. When fiber optics came along, this improved the degree of protection even more. Point to point encryption on fiber trunks is the industry standard, and the complexity of the keys is always increasing to prevent casual or even determined eavesdropping. If someone attempts to tap into a fiber optic sheath, the sensors and computers monitoring the cable on a millisecond basis, will detect the variance and notify the control center techs. They will then analyze the variance and determine if there is a need for further testing. If they suspect a problem that might cause loss of data integrity or espionage, they may shut down the trunk and notify superiors, who may send out a repair ship to lift the cable and repair. Then re-route traffic through another link. Other than sending a destroyer out carrying ASROC rocket-launched torpedoes, there is very little physical to do to prosecute the offender. A complaint through the UN security council with sufficient evidence is about the only thing we can do.

  • @theloneranger2101
    @theloneranger21012 ай бұрын

    What has always puzzled me, is how the cable laying ships could carry enough cable to go from the UK to America across the Atlantic Ocean, approximately Four Thousand Miles across, thats without knowing the length needed for the Cable to reach the Sea Floor. Also how did they know when the Cable had reached the Sea Floor when laying the Cable, the Atlantic Ocean is not the same depth all the way across, so are some parts of the Cable suspended in the Ocean not reaching the Sea Floor, that just cannot be surely? Also how was this first done in Victorian times in the 1800's. Cables have also been laid from the UK to Australia! how the heck has that been done! I would love to see a full Documentary on how the Cable laying process in the Seas around the World is Accomplished, now that wpuld be very interesting to watch, well to me at least.

  • @mojomagic8148
    @mojomagic81483 ай бұрын

    I've always assumed everything I say, type or otherwise dispatch, is recorded - SOP! 🤔

  • @cristibaluta

    @cristibaluta

    2 ай бұрын

    No, did you hear how much data is transferred through this cables? Can't even count them, there's no place to store it.

  • @personsunknown2183
    @personsunknown21832 ай бұрын

    In the old world this would work, patch in when timezone updates like y2k or daylight savings.. keylogging and clipboard monitoring at bare metal lvl been about a decade now, the 3 letter agencies approached Linux Torvalds told them to get bent.

  • @kangirigungi
    @kangirigungi2 ай бұрын

    You did not mention that unlike in the '90s, most of the online traffic is encrypted, meaning that the most they could recover is what websites you visit and how much data you transfer, but not the data itself. Which makes it a missed opportunity for this video to be sponsored by a VPN provider.

  • @HikaruKatayamma

    @HikaruKatayamma

    2 ай бұрын

    Even with a VPN, info providers like Google can track you by cookies, meaning the VPN doesn’t really hide you. VPN’s are good for country hopping so you can get access to region limited services.

  • @macjonte
    @macjonte3 ай бұрын

    The new Swedish submarine Saab A26 has special features for under water operation with divers and drones, perfect for this.

  • @RealKlausSchwab

    @RealKlausSchwab

    3 ай бұрын

    No! It's being done psuedo LEGALLY through the patriot act 1 and 2.0. It's done by the PROVIDERS! AT&T, Apple,Google, Microsoft old twitter etc!!! We have the documents!

  • @i.k.8868

    @i.k.8868

    2 ай бұрын

    Not necessary. The US has a deal with the Netherlands. They get direct access where the cables enter the continent.

  • @macjonte

    @macjonte

    2 ай бұрын

    @@i.k.8868 Yea they have a deal with Sweden as well where large portions of worlds intercontinental internet traffic passes by, thanks to Swedish space corp. still they build these subs.

  • @MrSimonw58

    @MrSimonw58

    2 ай бұрын

    Those pesky swedes

  • @davideyres955

    @davideyres955

    2 ай бұрын

    We’re they practicing on nordstream pipelines?

  • @CatBind
    @CatBind2 ай бұрын

    Can they even read the stolen data if its encrypred? I dont see an issue of them having a scramble of 1s an 0s.

  • @DirtyHairy1
    @DirtyHairy12 ай бұрын

    I would have bet that this is an elaborate setup for a VPN service advertisement ;)

  • @bertblankenstein3738

    @bertblankenstein3738

    2 ай бұрын

    Me too. What a lead up..

  • @BamBamBigelow..
    @BamBamBigelow..3 ай бұрын

    Do I need the government to know I am an A-hole?

  • @RealKlausSchwab

    @RealKlausSchwab

    3 ай бұрын

    No! It's being done psuedo LEGALLY through the patriot act 1 and 2.0. It's done by the PROVIDERS! AT&T, Apple,Google, Microsoft old twitter etc!!! We have the documents!

  • @catlee8064

    @catlee8064

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes.....

  • @nbrown5907

    @nbrown5907

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes I think they already know I am. My healthcare provider does not call me now just text messages roflol.

  • @RealKlausSchwab

    @RealKlausSchwab

    3 ай бұрын

    No! It's being done psuedo LEGALLY through the patriot act 1 and 2.0. It's done by the PROVIDERS! AT&T, Apple,Google, Microsoft old twitter etc!!! We have the documents!

  • @RealKlausSchwab

    @RealKlausSchwab

    3 ай бұрын

    @nbrown5907 No! It's being done psuedo LEGALLY through the patriot act 1 and 2.0. It's done by the PROVIDERS! AT&T, Apple,Google, Microsoft old twitter etc!!! We have the documents!

  • @berlindude75
    @berlindude753 ай бұрын

    Nauen (small town west of Berlin) = NOW-EN (approx. pronunciation)

  • @ximalas

    @ximalas

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, he should really type these foreign names into Google translate and have a listen.

  • @kizzjd9578
    @kizzjd95782 ай бұрын

    The british set up a fake house and tv tower which was inline with the main entry/exit of the irish repeater station which intercepted all comms. Ringway manchester did a video on it

  • @kapa1611
    @kapa16112 ай бұрын

    👍👍great video. it's not just interesting, but also an important topic. i also like that you touched on the US having better civil liberties protections than Europe (although you only mentioned the UK). and how they weasle around that by intelligence agencies sharing the data :/

  • @gwcstudio
    @gwcstudio2 ай бұрын

    Its tapped at the peering points. Easier to back-haul from there. It's called the new york reach-around

  • @noesph1637
    @noesph16373 ай бұрын

    I worked for the company that made those metal tubes 11:05, and on the next background shot. They are big tubes, they are about 2.5m long. (The company I worked for made the steel tubes and put the coating on them, we didn't do any of the inner workings).

  • @mokiloke

    @mokiloke

    3 ай бұрын

    Inner workings provided by NSA?

  • @noesph1637

    @noesph1637

    2 ай бұрын

    Nearly, type that in the reverse order. Owned by a big Finnish company . (I don't want to say, just in case. But I think they are quite good clues). The sub-con machine shop I worked in is in the UK. But we made loads of parts for many different companies in the defence industry. You would get a drawing from the customer, and It would have their company logo in the corner of the drawing somewhere. But it always very much the case of 'We are not going to tell you what this part is used in, you don't need to know that. Just make the parts'.@@mokiloke

  • @KevynDaquin
    @KevynDaquin2 ай бұрын

    11:28 a correction my friend: fiber optics do not produce electromagnetic energy since its light based, the only energy that flows through those cables is the one used to power up the fiber extenders along the cables. since attenuation in the strands decreases the quality of the light transmitted in the glass at certain distances. hence it cannot be tapped into. The only way that you can intercept the data is by cutting the strand of fiber, splicing it to an sfp (Small Form-factor Pluggable connector generally used to send and receive information through network cables) and decode the data through a switch and a server. Another problem is that fiber optics are so advanced nowadays, a proprietary software in the server at each end will be able to sense any changes in the fiber by measuring the changes of the light being received, meaning as soon as something happens to the cable, it will trigger an alarm that will stop all data coming through the cable and redirect it through a different one placed for redundancy.

  • @Phosphoenol_pyruvate_CK

    @Phosphoenol_pyruvate_CK

    2 ай бұрын

    From my elementary physics, light belongs to the VISIBLE SPECTRUM of the Electromagnetic waves

  • @adama7752

    @adama7752

    2 ай бұрын

    evanescent waves. Photo optics 101

  • @EinzigfreierName

    @EinzigfreierName

    2 ай бұрын

    10:29 shows how it is most likely done.

  • @user-lp2op9uu1w

    @user-lp2op9uu1w

    2 ай бұрын

    The issue is during boosting stages which happens regularly along the fibers on the sea floor, the signal is converted from light to voltage and then retransmitted as light. I struggle to see how you would pick up on these extreme high frequencies but I suppose physically it is possible.

  • @zvpunry1971

    @zvpunry1971

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-lp2op9uu1w There are optical amplifiers. It is like a fiber laser, in which a fiber gets pumped by a light source until spontaneous emission occurs and is amplified... in an optical amplifier it is the same, but it amplifies the light that is coupled into one end of the fiber. In this case the signal that is transmitted through it. By the way, it's too much effort to access garbage-data on the ground of the sea, in a time where people store their data on other peoples computers (the cloud). The governments already have laws to force the cloud providers and internet service providers to give them copies of the data, that is so much easier.

  • @langdons2848
    @langdons28482 ай бұрын

    While the internet can by design route around damage, you absolutely do not need to cut all of the cables to cripple a nation's access to the rest of the world. You only need to cut enough cables that the bandwidth available via the remaining cables is saturated and then everything grinds to a halt. Making a network unusable is as good as killing it entirely.

  • @mokiloke
    @mokiloke3 ай бұрын

    5 eyes will certainly build it into the cable itself. You should have mentioned Quantum communications as this is the next frontier, as well as Satellite harvesting?

  • @mjedras82
    @mjedras822 ай бұрын

    I'm really surprised, that this video wasn't sponsored by NordVPN...

  • @bryanholland6987
    @bryanholland69872 ай бұрын

    What is Alu Minineum? Is that similar to Aluminum? Or is that different?

  • @bmiller949
    @bmiller9492 ай бұрын

    Watch out for hungry barnacles... 🤣

  • @TrickyDickyP
    @TrickyDickyP3 ай бұрын

    Nice Video... 😊

  • @para4436
    @para44362 ай бұрын

    Was thinking just that yesterday. They have a million ways of messing with us lol.

  • @brainwater
    @brainwater3 ай бұрын

    Given the number of cloudflare and other cdn servers everywhere, I'd bet most traffic doesn't travel via undersea cables when it only has to go from the nearest exchange point to your provider to you.

  • @HikaruKatayamma

    @HikaruKatayamma

    2 ай бұрын

    The data has to be seeded across the cables to get it across the pond. Still, that’s going to be encrypted so it’s not a security issue. You’re better off compromising the server than sniffing the data.

  • 2 ай бұрын

    I don't think it is quite like that. Even for governments, it's very much like trying to drink from a hydrant. A big one. It's easy to route and forward data on the net, think vanes, pipes and pumps, but sifting and processing it as a whole... is a bit much. And the dynamics of the internet do not make it any easier.

  • @dcasteaux9181
    @dcasteaux91812 ай бұрын

    All internet traffic is routed to GCHQ in Cheltenham.

  • @leenevin8451
    @leenevin84512 ай бұрын

    Was expecting NORD VPN not a pen advert hahaha

  • @zlm001
    @zlm0013 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @Captainmactavish28
    @Captainmactavish282 ай бұрын

    Most individuals dont really need to worry about this because most modern web services use ssl/tls encryption

  • @KarldorisLambley
    @KarldorisLambleyАй бұрын

    4.35 one would have thought a Neptune blue thing would be the same colour as Neptune, and Uranus. Not some odd dark colour.

  • @rrmackay
    @rrmackay3 ай бұрын

    Your data is being harvested somewhere, there are millions of connection points on land that are already hacked.

  • @cppguy16

    @cppguy16

    3 ай бұрын

    Internet traffic cannot be hacked. If your data is harvested, it's because online shops, social media, financial institutions and everyone else sell. Not because the cable is hacked. That's nonsense. And scams and other social engineering. The cable is impossible to hack.

  • @blapty
    @blapty2 ай бұрын

    Thought for sure wed be getting a spot for DejureVPN

  • @QIKUGAMES-QIKU
    @QIKUGAMES-QIKU2 ай бұрын

    The internet is still your old Copper House phone line

  • @richardmillhousenixon
    @richardmillhousenixon2 ай бұрын

    While yes, it is theoretically possible to break encryption, it is not something that can really be done on a widespread scale. If your security is going to be breached, there's a high chance it will be because of your own mistakes due to social engineering of some sort

  • @brantwedel
    @brantwedel3 ай бұрын

    So to answer the question: No my private data is not being harvested, but my public internet data is (the public routing information of my SSL packets) 😆

  • @BLX187
    @BLX1873 ай бұрын

    nice pen.. but theyre mark up must be crazy 7 quid build cost max

  • @4stringmanagmaildcom
    @4stringmanagmaildcom3 ай бұрын

    Long time viewer. Would love to see you do a piece on how satellite orbits are determined and "reserved". I'm assuming you can't just send a bird up there willy nilly and risk collision with another already established satellite. None of the good science you-tubers have covered this to my knowledge. Thank you for considering it!

  • @conor7154

    @conor7154

    3 ай бұрын

    I think the chance of one flying at the exact same height as the other is very low which is why space junk collisions aren’t very common.

  • @4stringmanagmaildcom

    @4stringmanagmaildcom

    2 ай бұрын

    @@conor7154 Low but not zero. The ISS has made orbit changes to reduce the chance of collision with orbital debris and satellites. The crew has gone into shelter in case the pressure vessel gets breached.

  • @normanmadden
    @normanmadden3 ай бұрын

    I read the headline, and the "Under The Sea" song is now stuck in my head..... /but Sebastian Crab has a Russian accent. /LOL

  • @auro1986
    @auro19862 ай бұрын

    which means every sea creature or alien or under sea civilization knows what me and you surf around including whatever data i input ?

  • @MattyEngland
    @MattyEngland3 ай бұрын

    All operating systems are compromised anyway, so if they didn't get it from the cable they'd take it straight from your laptop/phone

  • @TavishMcEwen

    @TavishMcEwen

    3 ай бұрын

    not TempleOS

  • @MattyEngland

    @MattyEngland

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TavishMcEwen Even if you have a open source operating system, you can guarantee that the device itself is compromised at the hardware level.

  • @TavishMcEwen

    @TavishMcEwen

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MattyEngland yup

  • @user-bw6jg4ej2m

    @user-bw6jg4ej2m

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MattyEngland don't you trust the _Trusted_ Platform Module? /s :D

  • @user-bw6jg4ej2m

    @user-bw6jg4ej2m

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MattyEngland don't you trust the _Trusted_ Platform Module? :D

  • @rogerc7960
    @rogerc79602 ай бұрын

    Your maps are from landing point to landing point, many cables route through British oversea territories. Where a copy of the data is made.

  • @edc1569

    @edc1569

    2 ай бұрын

    No one is just capturing all of the data, you’d drown in it all.

  • @jean-clauderainville677
    @jean-clauderainville6772 ай бұрын

    One interesting item is that the UK reused two of the german cables it had cut leading to america as "war reparation". It can still be seen crossing a beach in cornwall to this day I believe. Mark Thomas produced a remarquable video about all those cables on Cornwall's beaches and where they go. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fZOi0LebiJrbpbQ.htmlsi=6lzXK5BneNMh_DSM

  • @gomberfu
    @gomberfu2 ай бұрын

    HTTPS (encrypted traffic) should be safe from tapping. It is end to end encryption.

  • @JukkaSundell
    @JukkaSundell2 ай бұрын

    Russian owned cargo ship newnew polar bear cut 2 data lines and gas line on Baltic sea, using only 1 anchor. The ship was Chinese, operating from Chinese port, but its owners are said to be Russian. China has a lot of these medium sized cargo ships, all "armed" with anchors, ready to cut any/and all data lines.

  • @xliquidflames
    @xliquidflames3 ай бұрын

    2:39 HMTS or HTMS? The caption says one but he says the other verbally. I know. I hate me, too.

  • @forbiddenera
    @forbiddenera2 ай бұрын

    I think the opening fact in this video MUST be incorrect. I do internet architecture design and the #1 thing we do is ensure data travels the LEAST amount. That generally means that, even if the content was generated overseas, it's already been cached at a local edge server bwfore you accesed it. See services like cloudlfare caching, AWS global accelerator and the like. Considering that, 99% makss no sense, I'd bet the opposite - that 99% of the average users traffic only travels to the closest edge center or maybe closest primary datacenter, eg. East/West coast in NA usually. None of that goes undersea.

  • @forbiddenera

    @forbiddenera

    2 ай бұрын

    Also let me clarify that I don't doubt that an absolute metric f-ton does, hence most datacenters being close to the coast, but not 99% of ALL traffic.

  • @shanent5793
    @shanent57932 ай бұрын

    Why do they still regenerate the signal electronically when erbium doped fiber amplifiers are available?

  • @Richardincancale

    @Richardincancale

    2 ай бұрын

    I was going to comment on the same - undersea fiber is never regenerated these days, always just use EDFA so the signals stay optical all the way.

  • @E_y_a_l

    @E_y_a_l

    2 ай бұрын

    I don't know what that is, but whatever it is, it probably wasn't available when the cables originally placed, for some cables that can be 20-30 years ago, replacing them with newer technologies is a process that takes time.

  • @Richardincancale

    @Richardincancale

    2 ай бұрын

    @@E_y_a_l Invented in 1957, in use since the mid-1990s.

  • @brantwedel
    @brantwedel3 ай бұрын

    So what doe they even get, as far as "we" know, SSL/HTTPS traffic is not cracked yet. I guess you would get the public part of the packets which would include IP address of source and destination. I think you can see if say, a country or individual suddenly starts sending loads of data to a particular other country or individual 🤔 ... also, why is this not a VPN ad, you could have charged double!!!

  • @richardb4313
    @richardb43132 ай бұрын

    Did Today I found Out intercept the cables from Curious Droid? 2 videos, same topic, only hours apart.

  • @rickblackwell6435
    @rickblackwell64352 ай бұрын

    Being as most web data is encrypted (HTTPS), I doubt that NSA or anyone can read most of it. Soon though…

  • @MrMikeV00
    @MrMikeV002 ай бұрын

    As a security professional i will answer in short simple answer. YES.

  • @ThisFinalHandle
    @ThisFinalHandle3 ай бұрын

    Great episode. Relevant shirt design. 10/10

  • @HikaruKatayamma
    @HikaruKatayamma2 ай бұрын

    Most of the data is encrypted. Even the KZread video you’re watching is encrypted. That’s the point of the HTTPS protocol. You connect via a public key encryption which then negotiates the symmetric key encryption. Snooping isn’t really a problem unless the target system is using an insecure encryption method.

  • @terrylandess6072
    @terrylandess6072Ай бұрын

    Privacy is like any secret - once more than one knows it, it ceases to exist.

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