15:07 “No one plots like Cocteau, frames his shots like Cocteau Makes his passions your everyday thoughts like Cocteau” ...Kyle. KYLE.

@tinnagigja3723

3 жыл бұрын

"Cock ain't got no toes. Idiot."

@ambergong7201

3 жыл бұрын

I will catch myself sing songs from that review, and my friend would ask me why am I singing songs from beauty and the beast.

@gnalkhere

3 жыл бұрын

HE'S ESPECIALLY GOOD AT MARAIS FRAMING

@hannad7720

3 жыл бұрын

HIS SPECIAL EFFECTS ARE JUST SCINTILLATING!

Your "Wtf is up Kyle" impression cleared my skin, watered my crops, cracked the shell around my cold dead heart. Thank you King ❤️

​damn i didn't expect this video about wether vine is cinema or not to fill me with existential dread but here we are

@ShadowMageAlpha

3 жыл бұрын

What hasn't filled us with existential dread this year?

@Rachel-xf3op

3 жыл бұрын

I'm only half-way through and now I'm worried

@Lexivor

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rachel-xf3op I'm only half-way through 2020 and I'm worried too.

@Rachel-xf3op

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lexivor yeah that's a whole mood

I choose to see this video as a Criterion edition of the "back at it again at krispy kreme" vine and you cannot stop me

Dear Kyle: I mean this in the best way when I say that before I started watching _Movies with Mikey,_ _Every Frame a Painting,_ _Just Write,_ _Patrick (H) Willems,_ and _Film Crit Hulk,_ I watched you first. You are still one of the best, most passionate, most profound film analyst I know. I'm just so glad you're still doing what you love.

@mapleleaf65

3 жыл бұрын

Ditto.

Your use of classic Vines to punctuate your points is just... *chef’s kiss*

Kyle I don't know if you labelled the train footage "Captain America Civil War" on purpose but it's perfect and it killed me.

@NoirTheSable

3 жыл бұрын

Am I the only one who remembers that scene where Bucky waits for a train to arrive at La Ciotat Station?

@bellamorts

2 жыл бұрын

this part killed me

YESSS. Amazing as always. And thanks for treating our tongue in cheek lambasting of "new media" handwringing with thoughtfulness and respect.

3:29 It only took several years but we finally got Kyle’s response!

@mrclueuin

3 жыл бұрын

😁😄

I got so many chills during the ending sequence.

@Foxpawed

3 жыл бұрын

Kyle is very, very good at evoking that sensation. The ending of Between The Lines: Inception and the midroll break of Blue always stick out in my mind. "Of course it was all a dream. It's a movie, isn't it?"

@marias-i3333

3 жыл бұрын

It was like his video on from Caligari to Hitler for me

@Foxpawed

3 жыл бұрын

@@marias-i3333 "... I couldn't help it! It just popped in there!"

"For a damn decade" Jeeze, remind me of the cruel passing of time, why don't you

"because all hierarchies are made-up and arbitrary" Anarchist comrade Kyle?

@dandylionsloth446

3 жыл бұрын

+

@umangmalik

3 жыл бұрын

hell yeah

@Hawkatana

3 жыл бұрын

He has taken the breadpill and joined us.

@marxmeesterlijk

3 жыл бұрын

one of us, one of us

@Hawkatana

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrToimeton Yes.

50% of this video listening to Kyles points during the essay, 50% of it QUOTING THE VINES DURING THE VIDEO

11:27 Damn, I don't remember that scene in Civil War

@Oddeyeful

3 жыл бұрын

Director's cut

I actually wrote a term paper about Marshall mcluhans "medium is the message" and how vine is postmodern absurdist soviet montage Glad It's actually a thing and I wasn't just high on monster energy drink 😂

As always, I enjoy hearing your thoughts: connecting Vines to extremely early experimental movies seems like such a obvious thing to do in hindsight. However, I just want to point out that Ferguson protesters used Vine to upload footage of the police brutality they were suffering.

@KelniusTV

3 жыл бұрын

As an Australian, I needed that footage, because in Australia, we copied what the American media said, by reporting those as riots. It's only through social media that it was revealed that these were peaceful protests until militarized police showed up, and started the fights.

I love how good you are at breaking down a topic in a entertaining and educational way, and then ending it all off with "And this is why it is so goddamn important."

"dad look it's the good kush" "it's the dollar store how good can it be"

It's hard to believe what an imprint vine has left on me and other people I knew who were teenagers/young adults when it was active. Even after 3 years of inactivity me and my friends can quote countless vines from memory. While I do get some kicks out of TikTok in many ways it feels like an imitation of Vine more than its own thing. What a lovely vid, I'm glad you're back, esp with how powerful that ending was. You might not be the fastest KZreadr but I have found few who are as insightful and as impactful as your stuff.

@marias-i3333

3 жыл бұрын

To this day, my gf and I still quote the vine to each other when we drive past a road work sign

@sortingoutmyclothes8131

3 жыл бұрын

TikTok is not an imitation of vine. It pays homage to it. The best TikToks know their true origins.

"What you capture now will define this time" gave me chills on chills. Thank you Kyle, and please stay safe too.

Kyle, your content is always worth the wait. If you need to take all the time in the world because you are a powerhouse army of one then pleass do, those of us who enjoy will always, gladly, wait. Thank you for the work that you do. ♥️

i had a nightmare last night that i saw kyle kallgren at a convention and i went up to him like ":O kyle kallgren?!?" but he looked at me confused and i realized it was just someone who looked like kyle kallgren

@horseenthusiast1250

3 жыл бұрын

!!! Hello, Xidnaf! I wasn't expecting to see you here, lol. I hope you're doing ok these days, and I love your videos. :)

@einootspork

3 жыл бұрын

It'd be much easier to recognize you in public, just gotta look for the stick figure with a bowl cut

Wakanda is the only place that still has Vine

@Feasco

3 жыл бұрын

Their vibranium gets stolen, all their magic flowers are burnt but they still got the Vine

@TheNineteenKing

3 жыл бұрын

Truly a utopia civilization

I'm a US citizen living abroad right now, so I'm not in the US during this time. I feel the short clips from Instagram and Tik Tok provide better insight into what's happening than the traditional media of news reports. Contents and facts in news articles are quickly outdated, but the emotion and sentiment of those short videos have a much bigger impact. I feel connected to other American's in this time of struggle through the lens of their smartphone cameras. Contrastly, media that's lengthy with editing and political overtones makes me feel alienated from my own country.

@KelniusTV

3 жыл бұрын

The media often has a bias as well. Just look at how many peaceful protests get called riots when the protestor aren't white...

This is hands down one of my favourite video essays, not only of 2020 or that you've published but ever. It was both funny and poignant in a way that had me squealing in laughter and watching solemnly in silence. You did a wonderful job Kyle. I'm proud to be a fan/viewer of yours.

I've missed your video essay style content so I'm really looking forward to this!

I've had a lot of thoughts about how Vine compilations are weirdly hypnotic.

having never been on vine or tiktok, suddenly all the memes for the past 10 years suddenly make sense now that have actually seen them. who is she is a meme that keeps coming back on tumblr

"Oh look, he sneezed. CINEMA!" Perfect video.

Mike Rugneta: in this essay i will Kyle: yes

Damn, this is the most polished "Vine Compilation" video on this site

*finally* someone else that despises the "Hurricane Tortilla" kid

@horseenthusiast1250

3 жыл бұрын

If only my brother (who also loathes hurricane tortilla kid) could see this comment lol

@davidfrend

3 жыл бұрын

There are dozens of us! Dozens!

@Patrick-jd1ku

3 жыл бұрын

I hate most of the vines with kids. Partly because they're just annoying, and partly because I worry about how that shit will affect those kids in the future

@davidfrend

3 жыл бұрын

@@Patrick-jd1ku I'm honestly so glad I didn't have much of my life posted online when I was younger. So many bad decisions that I was so proud of.

However long it takes, you're always worth the wait.

@addoworkman2173

3 жыл бұрын

for real every time I check in and there's a new video, there is always something worth waiting for.

♫ Nooooooooo onee plots like Cocteau Frame his shots like Cocteau Makes his passions your everyday thoughts like Cocteauuuu ♫ :') I missed your videos so, so much. You rock, Kyle!

Awesome as always, Kyle. Thank you! For anyone curious, the song playing in the "sometimes I dance with the cat" video is "Resonance" by HOME. I got very excited when I heard it.

I did not expect to watch two videos that reference "You're The Man Now Dog" in the same week, but I guess that's what I get for watching Lindsay Ellis' old Top Pre-KZread viral videos list when I knew this was coming out soon.

Holy shit that was good. Powerful ending juxtaposed with lots of laughs from how funny so many of those vines are. The bit about video essays having different reasons for starting than finishing is all too real for me at the moment. -.-

Well, I'm convinced. My favourite part was how I recognized literally every Vine in this video and my other favourite part was how many of them I was laughing at before they played because I recognized them from a few words of description.

Kyle's voice delivering sweet insightful cinematic thought, punctuated with vines I know by heart? This is perfect!!!

Tough to describe my feelings on this one. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a KZread video that left me genuinely rattled/moved. Excellent work!

@akinmytua4680

3 жыл бұрын

Alex Vietzke that’s a lot of the content here. Check out the video on fascism

I'm living in Portland right now and it's truly terrifying. Inaction is unacceptable yet with the current military action being taken, you're not sure of what will happen when you or friends go to the protests. I don't think I'm alone when I say people are really reaching out into the darkness now, whether that's for justice, friendship, or a return to ignorance, we all want something resembling peace. This video really connected with me because it was a reach into the past where I feel safe. But we are not safe now, we weren't then either.

I'm literally crying. how did you make me cry by saying do it for the vine?! You're so talented 😍

Here’s a fun game! List off your favorite Vines! I’ll start: SO I AM CONFUSION! WHY IS THIS ONE KANSAS BUT THIS IS NOT AR-KANSAS! AMERICA EXPLAIN -

@dylanchouinard6141

3 жыл бұрын

*Orthodox Priest dunks baby in a baptismal font* Where’s the money, Lebowski? *dunks again* WHERES THE FUCKING MONEY SHITHEAD?!?! “It’s in there somewhere, let me just look again.” *Baby gets dunked again*

@willku9000

3 жыл бұрын

Calling people daddy is gross Stop kinkshaming me KINKSHAMING Is my kink ... AAAAAAAHHHHHH😱

@thefollowingisatest4579

3 жыл бұрын

Oh...so many. But I think I'll always go back to the Matt post classic: "Detective this is a crime scene!" *Detective stealing all the ben and Jerry's from the freezer* "what is this the murder weapon? Get off my dick!"

@whym6438

3 жыл бұрын

My favorite is the Gamecube startup screen with a perfectly timed Spiderman butt slap edited in. It never stops being funny.

@n.l.g.6401

3 жыл бұрын

"Why you always lyin?" will forever be my favorite.

Hearing the phrase "do it for the vine" sent me right back to high school

I never got into vine while it was on the app, but those KZread vine compilations soothed so much during the worst of my depression and my struggle to graduate college Seeing them here gave me a kind of nostalgia I don't think I've felt before

RIP Adam “Hi, Welcome to Chili’s” Perkins.

15:02 I love the little reference to the Beauty and the Beast crossover.

Everything about this video is magnificent, but the serious build up about toxic masculinity followed by "two bros" made me scream so loud I woke up the cat

I love how deeply ingrained some vines are in web-culture and also that almost any big show/fandom have an associated vines compilation because they are that universal.

I keep expecting to see the first American version of Tiananmen Square or Amritsar on the news. It feels like only a matter of time.

I've noticed that vine compilations on youtube rarely, if ever, include the title/caption. I feel like half the time (okay, maybe 40%), a vine is a punchline to a joke that was set up by the caption. With TikTok's, the captions are part of the video (which has been pretty important with adding context to videos capturing state violence, and also context to whatever joke/comedy). I'm not sure what point I've got with this, but I think about it a lot.

Good to see you haven't lost your edge at all - lure us in with an academic, intriguing but amusing premise, and then the ending kicks us right in our emotional dicks. Well done.

This is probably my favorite video you made so far. I have to admit I never really got into vine (or TikTok) but I think you really present the format's possible place in our culture today. We live in weird times and of course our media should reflect that. Thank you!

10:52 Using that clip of Tony when describing the debate is perfect. Way to silently convey your opinion :P You always make solid, compelling arguments; I definitely appreciate Vine more now. As an aside, thank you for citing the vines and including the titles. Now I finally get the vine at 13:58! You've made a video that's funny, engaging, sobering, and at the end, hopeful. Thank you for your wonderful work. Stay safe. Do it for the vine.

Kyle you're probably one of my favorite creators. I always enjoy your work and look forward to each video.

Well, maybe we can look back it this in five years. Stay safe.

Ah, but it’s not called “cinema” in all languages. In Hebrew, “movie” is “seret” (ribbon), whereas “cinema” is “kolnoa” (motion-sound). Wait, does that mean silent films aren’t cinema if you’re speaking Hebrew!?

@danielsnoap9782

3 жыл бұрын

Well, if it's a silent film, no one's speaking anything

@KelniusTV

3 жыл бұрын

It sounds like **seret** doesn't mean "movie", but "FILM".

@dylanchouinard6141

3 жыл бұрын

So seret refers to the literal rolls of film? Also Shalom Alechiem

It's so good to see you upload one more time just before I have to leave this country, Kyle! Getting to discover the community of KZreadrs driven by compassion and love like you has been one of the highlights of this era of my life. I was hoping to find a job that guarantees my place here and becoming a patron of yours, but I guess that would have to wait. I hate to leave when all of you are doing everything you can to make this country a better place, but knowing her future will be defined by brave Americans like you sets my mind at ease. I love you all and hope you all the best.

So worth the wait. I love your video essays.

Ah, Captain America Civil War is my favorite 1895 black-and-white short film

6:10 I'm glad you included the only content creator on KZread... don't look it up.

I missed your videos talking about Avant-garde films and videos about. Art in general keep up the good work

You make the best video essays on youtube, and there's some tough competition but I stand by that statement.

Loved the little nod to the Jean Cocteau song from the Beauty and the Beast video. Also, this was a brilliantly put together video, absolutely love the work you do. Side note this took me back to a time in my life a few years back when I was so emotionally empty and overworked that the only content I could consume, were youtube compilations of vines on repeat. It got to the point I could instantly recognise most by just a single frame.

I usually leap on these videos right when they come out but I was saving this one for when I was in a headspace where I could actually focus on it. Saving it for a shitty rainy day. Just turned this whole morning around. You could take months between uploads and I’d still just be excited as hell when a new one does pop up by surprise because they’re always worth it, and the work you put into them shines through every time. EDIT: also for a variety of reasons, perpetual eye strain headaches among them, I almost never watch KZread videos, instead listening on headphones and glancing over if it’s obvious I missed some important visual aspect. So glad I actually watched this one in addition to listening because your Kyle vine response was amazing and if I were only listening I would have missed the disc horse visual joke and that would have been a tragedy. I gotta start setting aside low headache days to watch your stuff from now on cause there are so many little editing moments I’d be sad to miss EDIT Two: I shouldn’t comment before finishing videos. Last night I said your video about ghosts of lost films was possibly my favorite of yours. This just usurped it. (Although they really compliment each other, back to back)

I understand this is the smallest of small details, but listening to Kyle speak greek gives me life. Watching this spring/summer unfold in the US as an outsider, terrifies me. Stay safe everyone.

Tis True: Mike Rugnetta is The Only Good KZreadr. (Has long since moved on to other things and hasn't regularly uploaded since 2016) And well... I guess I could think of one guy who comes close

@lettuceprime4922

3 жыл бұрын

He did crash course mythology for a while. Also on Twitter, being cool.

God damn it’s good to have you back - keep doing your amazing thing!

Damnit Kyle, I always end up tearing up at the end of many of your videos and this one was such a gut punch. Thank you for sharing your analysis with us. No matter if we have to wait, it's incredibly worth it.

Kyle this is a fucking masterpiece and one of the best vide essays I've ever seen. The best thing you've ever made too in my view. Brilliant, brilliant work.

This is why I subscribe to this channel. To learn why something I am too pretentious for is actually art. I am going to become a patron. Your videos are worth it.

Continue to adore your video essays Kyle

It always makes my day when you upload!

So sad that the only good youtuber has left this platform, but fortunately you, the other good youtuber, are still here. Thank you!

With the inclusion of some classic hilarious Vines, this is one of your funniest videos to date! I can't wait to see how you end this comedy train!

I think this is one of your best videos, and thank you for making it.

That opener is a personal favorite.

16:18 That plays very differently in 2020 lol

For someone who is terrified by few things more than cringe, this was... oddly compelling and touching. Thank you, Kyle. ^_^

You know what Kyle...I AM gonna do it!

Missed your essays so much.

That was an amazing essay. Great job Kyle!

As soon as you said 'kid buried up to his neck in sand' I instantly knew you were talking about the sand guardian and I reached nirvana for about a few seconds.

Kyle’s back! This shit year just improved!

Your videos might take you a long time, but I always really appreciate them. They're so well made and thoughtful and there's something that's hard to explain but definitely amazing about how it feels to have come all the way from watching your videos on channel awesome to this here today and that you still make the same things. Most people don't stick with anything for that long, let alone stick with it and still do it as well as you do. 💜

My general take with what is/isn't cinema is that we should have an attitude towards it that is just as expansive and inclusive as all other art forms. Music, for example, covers a vast swath of content, the only unifying factor of which is curated sound. Not all songs have rhythm, or melody, or tonality, or even sound, and yet pieces with any combination of the aforementioned factors are considered music. I do think Vines are cinema because I think cinema is, at its barest, any curated images and sound not performed in a live setting. If it's just images, it is painting or photography. If it's just sound, it's music. If it's performed live, it's theater. I think this definition gives a maximum space for the expansion and diversification of the artform.

@horseenthusiast1250

3 жыл бұрын

Great point; also, I love that you mentioned how not all music has sound! 4'33" is certainly music, even though it is silent.

Kyle, you're back!! This video was well worth the wait :)

Woooow, it’s been so long i forgot how amazing kyle’s videos are...🤯

An important subgenre of Vine (and quite interesting if you are trying to gage societal mood) was Depression as a Meme videos, e.g. the Vine of those two guys who just repeat "you better watch out" increasingly loudly or the "in this world you either get killed or kill yourself" dance.

Excellent video. It also makes me think about Vine and it’s videos in the context of media universality and intertextuality. See all the Vine compilations where entirely different stories and concepts are done through vine (X Musical or T.V. Show told through Vines, or my absolute fav, Mythology as told through Vines, shoutout to Overly Sarcastic Productions excellent animatics of this). These disparate stories and concepts are united through tropes and concepts distilled into these little video moments. And they transcend their individual meanings to make something great. What do you guys think? Overall amazing video Kyle! Always excited to see what you’re up to!

I never used Vine, it totally passed me by, and now I feel too old for tiktok, but I am so looking forward to this video anyway.

Another excellent video, as always, Kyle, and I adored the little Cocteau joke.

Always have to appreciate a reference to the lost savior of Mike Rugnetta As soon as I saw the title of this video, I instantly thought of the idea channel video and how I wished he actually made it into a real analysis. I appreciate that you managed to do that.

I wonder if you have anything to note about the use of the word "capture" for the camera. I don't have a bigger point there but I'm sure someone can do something interesting.

I suppose it’ll be telling that I recognise every single Vine you showed. All of them.

In a sense, maybe, feature length film, and all the reverence institutionalized around those, and all the dismissal of people's social media output, is like rich people building big monuments, compared to ye average folk building homes or scrawling graffiti. The way you describe feature length films as a long string of six second cinema pieces, mr. Kyle, also reminds me of those huge maximalist videogame spectacles, especially when compared to tiny free indie games; in an Assassin's Creed game or somesuch, that one cool bit where you jump off a tower, or that cool bit where you distract, then sneak around someone, those acts get lost in the vast overload of cool bits, but they become memorable when they reappear enough in meaningfully differing contexts. Like with a Vine, when you send it along to others or see it remixed or somesuch. I think there's something to this notion that, for most art forms maybe, six seconds is enough to get something across artfully, despite how long the professional entertainment products are that we're sold.

@michelottens6083

3 жыл бұрын

Ooh, an editorial like!

i always come to hear you say something quippy and end up leaving crying (in a good way). stay safe, keep up the good work

You are one of the unsung heroes of KZread, thanks for your work

I cannot contain my love for Kyle and the effort put into this. Thank you for giving me something to quell the creeping nihilism that is slowing taking over my life and my brain.

I just want to say that I love the stuff you make,you are definitely one of the best video essayist on this platform. Take the time you need to make things, I'll wait. It's okay, things are difficult. This video isnamazing