Check out Throne, I'm streaming it almost every day @ twitch.tv/kanonxo | ***UPDATE*** PVE Raids dropping new Legendary Gear in Jan, more vertical progression and build customization thru rune/socket/skill effects, alleviating trait system further, LIFESKILLS (fishing, cooking, collecting)

Wait for ashes in 2094 killed me!! 💀 😆 great video!

Yeah... as an old Lineage II veteran... can't really say I trust NCSoft to not fuck up... anything. Personally, this is looking mighty juicy, but I'm not sure I'm not too old for this shit lmao

@mmorpgAsti

23 күн бұрын

I'd try it and if u like L2 (c1 to Gracia). Thrones and liberty is a shit

@EckoUntitl

22 күн бұрын

​@@mmorpgAstiTL doesn't even come close to the pubes of L2 of the timeline you suggested.L2 at lvl 20 had more depth than this whole game has.

@mmorpgAsti

21 күн бұрын

@@EckoUntitl yes mate i think L2 is top

@Olterior

8 күн бұрын

This game is nothing like l2. Its a weird bdo gw2 clone thats missing best parts of both games.

@leoleo1035

7 күн бұрын

@@Olterior I call this game the Screenshot simulator. The game is gorgeous, but it is FUCKING BORING. I'm not looking for a crackhead game where we play on 200% speed, but holy shit, this game and recent releases (First Descendant and Once Human) are intellectually insulting. Tired of "drone" games. If I wanted to be a drone, I would go work for a call center, and at least get paid to do that shit.

I'm looking forward to giving the game a whirl at least - your video was really helpful in addressing some questions!

Great video! I am excited to play in September :)

thanks kanon i'll be trying this game out for the first time in beta and then the release with my guild :3

Awesome review. Explains every point needed in a soft and objective comunication. Also really good editing. Nice video, keep up! 💪

can someone explain what is going on at 20:00 for the AOE tech? what are they playing/using and can this still be done?

Never seen your videos before but I love how analytical you are. You present the information very very well. Great job.

Its the only MMO that's had me interested in MMOs in a while

@attisthecat

Ай бұрын

Same. Even though I am mostly a PVE. I understand I will get ganked from time to time. revive, and move on. Or return and give a shot at trying to compete.

@ThreeDPrintDesigns

Ай бұрын

@@attisthecat agreed! The combat is what Intrigues me the most!

@Erumyr

Ай бұрын

P2w

@MrRosaPonyGaming

Ай бұрын

@@attisthecat you will actually not get ganked, cause PVP Zones are marked you can just move on with other quests in a different area if u dislike pvp dont worry

@paintspot1509

Ай бұрын

@@attisthecat you won't get ganked, but your sure will get bored.

Can you trade items freely? Like Lineage 2?

Good video! Confirmed what I was feeling and that this is not a game for me :) So thank you for an informative video!

Great video mate.

Update ,traits can be rerolled soon and skill expression is coming on release making skill tress for skills unique asweel as a bind o. Pick up rune system

as an old Lineage 2 player, this makes me feel excited

Is there any way to switch tab targeting to action combat?

@alexlul2930

6 күн бұрын

"V"

I will definitely play it. Looks good to me

Good video kanon :)

is it crossplay and cross progression between platform? ps5 and pc share same progression

@loveisdifficult6021

8 күн бұрын

cross play yes, but I believe open beta nothing is saved. PC, XBOX, & PS5.

Amazing review, thanks bro

Thank you so much for this indepth review! As much as I would love to play this game I can no longer devote 12 hours a day to keep up. 20 years ago I would jump all over this one. Thanks again, nice to see a very thorough review so we can truly make up our minds, I'll enjoy watching the streams with a bit of envy 😀

how asia/sea players can access the open beta it's not available in steam, is connecting to steam thru vpn the only way we can play this?

@DarkZ9R

11 күн бұрын

you gotta bypass your steam location etc.. if you really want to play the game then do it, but i think just like im done with korean devs doing the same sht region locking, others are aswell. Happened with BDO, lost ark etc already..

Thanks for the complete rundown! I really needed that since I only had the game as a sidenote in my head for the past two years or so after New World failed for me.

@andreichetan4694

8 күн бұрын

After New world, this will fail you better and faster😅 atleast New World had somth about its vibe

@nervsouly

23 сағат бұрын

@@andreichetan4694 yeah nah I'm not gonna try this game. After watching some beta streams it's totally not for me.

I will try it out of desperation, even if it's only a few months it will break up the monotony. Great detail in this video and transparency. I don't mind soft p2w {since it's such a technical meaning I say soft} but if it's too excessive then it definitely steers me away.

@nervsouly

19 күн бұрын

Damn, you sum up my own feelings of desperation pretty well. But I think I'll probably skip T&L since it hits none of my soft spots (freedom of choice, gathering, crafting, overworld gameplay) and is build around everything I dislike: PvP, Guild Content, Daily/Weekly/Season checkboxing, dungeons.

@andreichetan4694

8 күн бұрын

Be rdy to spent 200£ a month or be usless

As an old Lineage 2 player and enjoyer this is the only thing i look forward too anymore , can't wait for the full release.

so i can get everything in the game without swiping?

@abdelrahmanrad

Ай бұрын

everything is now free after the recent changes.

@Claudiojoana

Ай бұрын

yes

I do not care what people say the game looks great, I will definitely play it.

@ryuno2097

Ай бұрын

You look great too 😊

@MaxT80

Ай бұрын

Ok cool, thanks for letting us all know 👍

@paintspot1509

Ай бұрын

have fun playing by yourself

@ZakuZuko

Ай бұрын

​@paintspot1509 stop hating on him. There will be others that will be playing too like me.

@afrofly5977

29 күн бұрын

I would like to play ANY new mmo that actually decides to come out with a sea server.

Hey Kanon, Does the loot come to GM when killed by any group in the guild?

@KanonXO

9 күн бұрын

@@Intembossfight-qc3em it can be set so that all boss loot from any guild member goes straight to guild and the leader/advisors have full control over that loot

Great video. I really like the artsy titles from moving from topic to topic. It's cool and unique. I'm lowkey hoping not to get hooked TnL as I don't want to swipe but also lowkey I'm hoping to enjoy it as Lost Ark is just dedge for me and there is no other new MMO on the horizon aside from this.

Man watching ur video since the beginning of lost ark and even if i never wanted to play TL i like to watch ur videos - so relaxing and entertaining. keep it up kanon

I will say the cbtt on series x was impressive. I was apart of the no1 guild that captured and successfully defended Stone guard for the entirety of the tech test. while mnkb is an absolute must for me to get behind the game seriously, i look forward to hopping back in for the open beta to see the current version changes as i believe we got the raw version on the last one. The seamless world was an instant sell point

$30-35 a month for full perks is outrageous. $400+ dollars a year

@zeogamingmc

Ай бұрын

yeh wtf

@manateeburger

27 күн бұрын

Yeah, with additional pay to win elements. Gross

@RecK1312

27 күн бұрын

if you're a broke boy just say so

@Haz3Nation

26 күн бұрын

@@RecK1312if the game is predatory and bound to fail in the west cuz lf it just say so. Shill

@captainharlock3998

24 күн бұрын

@@RecK1312 It's a matter of principle, not of financial status. Practices like this should be boycotted, not encouraged. Do you also think everyone against slavery in the 19th century were only so because they couldn't afford slaves?

Is a wand/staff combo not good for this game? I was looking to be full support/heal/AOE

Nice review honestly. I have been checking out this game every once in a while, it started to look like an overhauled Lineage 2 which i am very fond of, i hope they don't screw people over with the typical overly aggressive monetization down the line, kind concerned for the PVP focus since most of other MMOs which were initially intended as PvP oriented games (or simply tried to incorporate PvP in the progression system) either blatantly failed or had to heavily shift focus trying to save game later on, hopefully they are able to expand on PvE well enough. All things considered, I'm interested and willing to give it a fair shot on release.

Great video, helps a lot!

Have you played Lineage 2?

good review man

After doing the open beta over the weekend, I really wanna play it now! Will be counting down the days to September!! 😴

real question is it requires as second job time consume? hate grinding on games just to acquire virtual item for hudreds of life hours..

@abdelrahmanrad

Ай бұрын

it is not grindy compared to other mmos

@InspirationL

29 күн бұрын

Then maybe you shouldnt be looking at mmorpgs at all.. Even if it feels a little less grindy than others, mmo end game is still inevitably just grinding stuff and other repetitive chores.

@J-_-S

29 күн бұрын

@@InspirationL yes, mmos are biggest waste of time.

@Thecodeist

23 күн бұрын

@@J-_-Sbut what else you gonna do? That same time you spend on a different game to be bored you’re gonna grind out on an mmo in that time. Just depends what you think is worth more of your time. You’re “wasting time” playing video games in general anyway some would argue so yeah just depends the cost vs reward

@chelo136

15 күн бұрын

@@InspirationL Not really, there are games like GW2 that hardly require grind, also FFXIV

Combat is really fun for me ,I like the block skill when monster are around the sound effect timing for press block and rotate skill CD is really fun to play. (i play sword and shield)

Been waiting for something like this to drop. Can’t wait for the Series X release.

Great video and literally covered everything I would expect and more, keep up the great work bro

Played on console closed beta and loved great sword+ staff early game and then switched to dagger and staff late game for bossing.

@nickrodak7121

26 күн бұрын

Which console did you use? How was the performance? Im planning on trying this out on ps5.

@nickrodak7121

26 күн бұрын

Which console did you use? How was the performance? Im planning on trying this out on ps5.

Is there a quick play mechanic for dungeons/instances etc in this game? I am too old to be in Guilds or trying to coordinate with people. I just want to play game.

So how much for being OP after 10 minutes? Oh ok, count me in, Nice vid btw

I got bored at around level 48~49. I guess I just didn't understand the easiest method to level cap.

Long time not seen ya Kanon tbh... could You tell me how the hell I get my desired traits by swiping if no one is selling them ? 🤔 I missed somehow this bit of info...

@KanonXO

Ай бұрын

uh, you can't? they get farmed and they listed on the AH, all items that are purchasable are farmed within the game by a player (or bot kekw)

So much more weapons they should have added…. musket,Grimoire,Spear,Scythe,Hammer…. The list goes on. Hopefully this gets enough support to just keep adding more and more

Does this have an action camera mode? So you don’t have to click on each target you want to hit

@andrewfahim2373

Ай бұрын

Yes it does

@wolfhowllionheart9367

Ай бұрын

yes

@flen1414

Ай бұрын

It does have an action camera mode, but that has nothing to do with selecting targets. It's still either tab or click.

@SinfulVii

Ай бұрын

@@flen1414 With action camera you can just use your mouse

Yay, time locked content

Throne not out till Sep 17 here it looks like so remind me in 2 months lol..

Let’s all join Kanon on this adventure. I’m excited to pvp once again.

@Mars_010

Ай бұрын

Dont do it, you wil get burned out.

The game already looks faster than final fantasy online. So that is good

Bro, greatsword and dual crossbow sounds mad fun

well done review. but the intro shaky edit is horrible my friend

I loved Aion, this gonna be a game i should enjoy?!

no spear class?

@iGROO_

9 күн бұрын

its the first weapon thats gonna be introduced in korea shortly

Im not sure how i feel about the game. But man this is a really well made video.

@nervsouly

19 күн бұрын

I agree on both points.

I really missed a Siege, finally we something

Game has me interested, the combat looks a bit slow (although I am coming from BDO and Lost Ark so that makes sense,) but my main concern is the heavily group/guild centered progression. If the game doesn't have a great launch or as soon as player numbers start dropping, not being able to solo everything will become a problem.

The fact that this game doesn't have any life skilling blows my mind

@leoleo1035

7 күн бұрын

Yeah, because life skills are what makes an MMO exciting. Turn a boring game into an even more boring game. You should work as a Game Designer.

@DavidWoodMusic

6 күн бұрын

@@leoleo1035 why I work in finance

@trigger0403

5 күн бұрын

HAHAHAHAHAHA​@@leoleo1035

I played the CBT, tbh if they crack down on the amount of allies you can have then the game will be good. It’s basically the biggest guild with the most allies wins. There’s no such thing as individual play it’s all based on numbers which is stupid because in my serve I was in one guild was taking all the events all the bosses etc it was dumb

ok but can i go fishing?

Reminds me to Tera so I give a try.

after so many years im finally excited to play an mmorpg ...

All of this sounds amazing to me. I can def see me getting 300 hour out of T&L, 500-800 if I get lucky and find a good guild to play with. And at this point; I'm 'fine' with having to spend $30 a month to have my best shot at 'keeping up' w gear and score.

@arabdepok

Ай бұрын

u dont have to spent any money to keeping up bro

Game is not for pc?

@InspirationL

29 күн бұрын

It is for PC.. You have full mouse usage and keyboard hotkeys on the video..

Game looks fun but I'm not a PVP guy so this game is dead in the water for me sadly.

@shimik11

Ай бұрын

Yup

Great video! I

For NA players thinking about it, played kor server tryhard. It's not light p2w its on another level at one point had 2 battle-passes in store & if you think new world had mega corps controlling servers just you wait. Unless amazon completely revamps drops, bots & the store game will be shortly lived. Bones/graphics were good and I had some solid fun but got to the point fairly quickly where the grind wasn't worth my time.

@AdamNisenziSpisak

Ай бұрын

comments like these without stating what kind of a player you are and/or what kind of games you play and what other mmos you played might as well be a fart in the wind

@paintspot1509

Ай бұрын

@AdamNisenziSpisak why? It is simple, if you were a WoW player, you won't like it (pve is bad and out dated). If you were a lineage 2 player, you won't like it ( pvp is bad and not open world).

@Thecodeist

23 күн бұрын

This video is outdated it’s been stated they’ve already handled 90% of the issues in regards to p2w and grinding in the game

@steveknight

21 күн бұрын

Pvp is not open world rlly? Why what do you mean

@djacob9800

15 күн бұрын

Just let be bang bro

@KoroShiverVT

Ай бұрын

Grappling hook is not an ability. It's an interaction object that you experience in the tutorial. You will be finding them often in the world and in some dungeon instances.

@brooklyntaylor5935

Ай бұрын

@@KoroShiverVT Ty for andwer:)

Im not big into the idea of the game being largely guild pvp based content at endgame, that was something I didnt like entirely about new World, but it will be fun to play for a bit. Maybe if I were younger and not so busy running a business and other things in life.

Thanks I am still debating if I will try this as not gonna lie FF14 DLC will hit hard lucky its still far until release. Soo maybe I will have time to recover

It is a Mobile game ?? Cause it looks like

I never heard of this game before until this video randomly popped up for me.. And, I figured.. Why the hell not? I am looking for something to play anyways. This game from a glance reminds me of Tera fusing with FFXiV. So I would be a liar, if I said I wasn't interested. Thanks for the upload, dawg.

It looks like an up-to-date Lineage 2. Nice

how is the support gameplay? is it boring like in lost ark ?

@ItsmeMack

Ай бұрын

Mostly cc/debuff/heal skills during content, the main support build is wand that has most of the healing skills of the game, you can combine it with a Bow or Staff for a "meta" healer build. You can go hybrid dps/healing mage with mage or a Tanky utility healer with Bow depending in your gameplay preference

@abdelrahmanesam6625

Ай бұрын

Best Paladin in the mmo genre.

@paintspot1509

Ай бұрын

there is no support gameplay

@paintspot1509

Ай бұрын

@@abdelrahmanesam6625 don't lie, TL has no classes.

@Romys132

Ай бұрын

Boring like in Lost Ark? I guess You was playing first 2 raids right.

Yea let's play a game thats going to be out in Korea for 9 months just to have all those players join na and roll everyone with knowledge and also know what to whale on whats meta etc. Sounds like a good time...

@Romys132

Ай бұрын

You had time to play on KR server like everyone who wanted did. Sounds like you issue.

I´ll wait til 2094, if mankind and civilization can manage to survive til then.

so good

2094?! 🤣 shots fired!

Looks decent enough to hold me over till Archeage 2 or Ashes of Creation come out.

@andreichetan4694

8 күн бұрын

Yea, hope your healthy in 2078 when Ashes releases

Finally an mmo that respects my time.

@andreichetan4694

8 күн бұрын

If you pay atleast 50euroe a month. Ofc

If I am not forced to play alts and the P2W is lesser than in Lost Ark. I am for sure going to play/try this out.

As long as they have Lifeskill & Group PVE with robust combat they have me.

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

best review bay FAR

@KanonXO To help me understand the P2W advantage of this game let's say I'm a whale fully traited out with an R class weapon and an average skill level of Gold. We 1v1 same class, how much better than me skill-wise do you have to be to beat me? (As a F2P player playing 4-5 hours a day with whatever weapon and traits you have.)

@pinie111

Ай бұрын

There's a hardcap on gear. The p2w player will have a big advantage until f2p player has caught up. Once they are both capped there is NO p2w advantage no matter how hard you whale. The only p2w advantage would be rare arch boss items that are BiS and that will be very hard to get for f2p.

@dozilla77

Ай бұрын

@@pinie111 that sounds f'ing awful. Can't believe they've conditioned people to accept this over time. my god.

@Romys132

Ай бұрын

@@dozilla77 Noone is forcing you to play.

@Crosst9

Ай бұрын

@pinie111 hardcap on gear doesn't mean much though if it still takes f2p players a year to catch up

@pinie111

29 күн бұрын

@@Crosst9 Not a year, a few months and you'll be stuck with whales at hardcap for a while like in KR. So if you're worried about equal PvP just wait until you catch up before participating.

when it comes to Throne, I've learned to avoid your videos, Kanon - I think you're a bit biased towards the game tbh - but this one is extremely grounded and you talk about all the good points as well as the bad in a very unbiased and objective way, which I really appreciated. The edit was also super awesome. It's easy to see you went all-in on it and did an incredibly good job! Thanks for the awesome review!

한국어로 적어도 되는건가요? ^^ 역시 겜잘알 유튜버시네요!! 지금부터 응원하겠습니다 아자!

@KanonXO

Ай бұрын

네!! 감사함니다 뽕

Hope there will be more PVE content fro small group of friends and not just guild contetnt for massive number of players, or just hope in 2030 Riot MMO will save us all. Copium :D

Why does this remind me of bless online/unleashed

is throne and liberty will have his own launcher in global release

@KanonXO

Ай бұрын

Steam

I see the potential ngl and it’s f2p so yeah

Turns out the monetization system will be different in the west after all

Sounds a lot like ArcheAge honestly, and it just might go the same route in the west which is certainly a cause for concern. But i will at least give it a fair shot once it comes out for us and see if its something i can tolerate playing for a longer term

MMORPG sphere didn't have such a great game launch in a while. High hopes for the global release!

Man I absolutely hate this system of enhancing gear from 0-9. Really miss older MMO itemization where you get clear epics and legendaries.

I saw those WHAT botter :)

@abdelrahmanrad

Ай бұрын

of whom 90% are kicked by the anti-bot AI lol

@paintspot1509

Ай бұрын

@@abdelrahmanrad 90% quit because they got bored

Korean server player here, the game is perfectly balanced in terms of pvp. Do not afraid with the "Pay2win" aspect, it almost didnt impact anything in pvp especially in large scale pvp. I'm a f2p player since day 1 until now i can kill everyone at siege war. The game itself is really fun and worth to play and btw the game is casual friendly. CANT WAIT FOR GLOBALLLL !!!! (ps sorry for my bad english)

@carlosayala2847

Ай бұрын

Your English is really good!! I’ve beefoing research for an hour now because this game looks like what I’ve wanted for a long time, I was hesitant because everyone said it got made too much into a gacha and didn’t focus on the PvP but I trust your take!!! Thank you!!

@espertix5839

Ай бұрын

people are still playing in korea?

@arabdepok

Ай бұрын

@@carlosayala2847 trust me the game is really fun and not time consuming for doing daily activities. (Im a newly father btw so my playtime isnt that long) just ignore all those youtubers that saying “pay2win” ruining TNL without playing the game until end game gear. Especially if you using greatsword/dagger weapon combo u can almost kill everyone except Tank. When using that kind of weapon even u can win in a 1v1 against “whale” players

@arabdepok

Ай бұрын

@@espertix5839 yes we still playing especially for SEA players cause we dont have any good mmorp to play right now.

@dozilla77

Ай бұрын

@@arabdepokYour comment is exactly what people were saying before Lost Ark launched. We know this script and how it ends over time as player power keeps increasing and the gap gets wider between F2P and P2W players. This is the same dance and song all over again. I guess at least it doesn't have honing.