Non-UK viewers in particular should note that the maximum length of a train in the UK is determined by the spacing of signals and junctions not the pulling power of the locomotives. The spacing of junctions can be quite small for reasons of history and geography. The signals also tend to be closely spaced, allowing for minimum headway, i.e. many trains running at high speeds. As always with railways it is a case of 'horses for courses'.

I would think it has to be a contender. The longest train I ever saw was in the mid 70s when the M42 was being built near Solihull, WMids. A new bridge was built along side the main line, and the the lines were slewed side ways onto the new bridge. A train of empty rail wagons 2*47s, a train of loaded rail wagons, and then the associated spoil wagons two locos up front and one at the rear. I believe it was 3/4 mile long in total. Certainly the longest I've ever seen, and happened on two consecutive weekends. Saturday nights have never been the same since, lol 🤣🤣

I love it. Its such a massive snake of complex machinery in the classic Network Rail yellow!

Station announcement at Crewe “stand back at platform 4 this train does not stop here” whilst simultaneously at Stafford the same message plays…

@markwebster7128

Жыл бұрын

You'd have a problem if that train went into platform 4 at crewe!!!

@AgathaAndAnything

Жыл бұрын

@@markwebster7128 ahhh I just picked a random number for effect!

This monster passes my house on occasions, heading for High Marnham on the test track. It takes it ages to pass as its on a gradient. The 66s are on full power everytime. There's definately some weight to haul there.

Freight trains are amazing. The sheer power.

"Er - excuse me, is that Harry at the back? Could you push a bit harder, please mate?"

These came down by my house last year, was really quite awesome to see them working up close.

An an ex Pat living in Aus now there are some decent trains here and not only freight trains. It's common for coal trains to be over a hundred wagons long. Iron ore trains in the Kimberleys in WA can reach 3 kilometres long. The Ghan a passenger train from Adelaide to Darwin is 1100 metres long. Of course you need to see the Canadian freight trains that you get to see on the Rockie mountaineer, they haul 180 wagons. As for me, I'd rather see an A4 with 13 behind any day.

Well that's a long train!

What an absolute monster of a train 😎

It says something about the power of a Shed that it only takes two of them to move this behemoth.

Thats got to be the longest and long wagons too what a catch cheers for sharing great vid love 66s

It is certainly up there as a contender. I have seen long coal trains as they used to deliver coal to the power stations of Egg borough, Drax, and Ferrybridge. Just a case of monitoring Real Time trains website to see what's on the move, The ones to watch are the Anglo-Scottish container trains going up the WCML.

Thanks for uploading great video 👍

Nice video, thanks. Worth getting up early for!

Fantastic love it great work 👌

Compared to Australia, Brazil, orNorth America a 40 car MOW train is nothing. Nice to hear the EMD power at both ends.

excellent video!

A train identical to this ran north from Tyne Yard for a few nights recently. 2600 tons according to RTT.

There’s a railcam at Fort Madison in the US…….. Amazing freight trains pass all the time and there’s a swing bridge for passing river traffic…… Worth a look…….

@trainsplanes

Жыл бұрын

Thanks John.. Will take a look 👍

@allanm6246

Жыл бұрын

The cam at La Plata is even better with huge freight trains thundering past the small station there.

Very impressive! I saw one of these at Leicester Station

excellent catch 👍the longest train I've seen is the H O B C I've seen at minster thanet and Ashford International

My old weekend job out of Tyne yard. Some of the Corby car trains I used to work up to Rugby must have come pretty close to the HOBC though.

Got to be a contender, either that or the water train.

excellent video 🚂🚂🚂🚂👌👌

Watching this reminded me of the video for Windowlicker by Aphex Twin with the limousine that goes on forever

Who knows, but that growth from the track at 3:50 must rank as one of the biggest weeds on the mainline network hahahaha

@trainsplanes

Жыл бұрын

Weeds are out of control in many places nowadays 🙈🙈

For sure its up there for a strong contender.

Freightliner class 59 pulls 44 loaded at 75t each into an aggregate yard each week.. Think that comes in at 4400t altogether

According to Network Rail themselves this train comes in at half a mile in length!

Some of the Westbury trains are heavier and longer and use 1 loco. Its also the UK record holder at 10000t I think or enough that. Its rare to see long trains in the UK because somewhere there needs to be a siding it can park. We don't have half mile sidings in many places.

Now that's what I call a train!😊😊

Here in Canada some of the stacked container trains are anywhere from 10 to 12 thousand feet long.

@michaelmacdonell4834

Жыл бұрын

Thankfully you have the room to put them somewhere!

@nicholasmaycock267

Жыл бұрын

Saw several recently when travelling from Vancouver to Jasper, seem to go on for ever.

@barrysmall8645

Жыл бұрын

I know ...I got stuck at a crossing near Jasper..kept the kids happy counting cars.

pure power

When I was at Leicester someone told me the Big One! was coming

Second longest but only slight. Intermodal/Containers are currently the longest. At 775m which is roughly the same lenght as 6 class 444 plus 1 class 450 all coupled together

@lolzlolz102

Жыл бұрын

There are no UK intermodal trains that run at that length. The most you will see is about 650m....give or take.

It is I believe the leading longest when it is maxed out with MFS' (20 or 22 per side). Recently we've had the Toton - Dollands Moor car train that is staggeringly long (40 odd wagons) plus the Freightliner trial freight they've done with 2 trains of about 20 wagons each coupled together to move as one down to London where they then split - was it for HS2 workflow? I can't remember fully. As I have worked with the 3 HOBCs regularly over the last 3-4 years I can confirm that it can span over half a mile in total (with either 20 or 22 MFS wagons max?), then you take into account the barrier wagon, 2x power cars, the RM and its own 2x powercars in the middle and as per this BCS4 & BCS5 they have a CM which also adds an extra bit of length (BCS3 is the only one that doesn't have a CM - it's the oldest one of the bunch). One half of the train can reach about 400m or more, so in full length it's definitely over 800m. It's a big old beast when the site layout can accommodate a full BCS, otherwise you'll notice considerably less MFS' in the consist (for example 16 or 18 max wagons either side around Wallsall-Cannock or 11 max wagons either side down near Ivybridge-Totnes). I hope this info helps unless you already knew of this then I apologise lol

@trainsplanes

Жыл бұрын

Great info - Thanks! 👌👍

@PoxyMoxon97

Жыл бұрын

@@trainsplanes no worries mate :) glad I could help

Yikes, that is long! I just hope that nothing that long ever travels between the North London Line and Tilbury via Stratford and the Great Eastern Mainline during the rush hour!

Only the TRT/TRS, Track Relaying Train/System is bigger (up to half a mile long) but the HOBC comes in at a close second. It is however the heaviest engineering Train on the network

@trainsplanes

Жыл бұрын

Those Locos were working hard to get it moving - Payload was significant.

@dangerousbrian9949

Жыл бұрын

@@trainsplanes yep probably a couple of thousand tonne, maybe a bit less

@MalcolmCrabbe

Жыл бұрын

@@dangerousbrian9949 normal configuration makes the train around half a mile long and around 3500 tones, hence the need for two 66's

@dangerousbrian9949

Жыл бұрын

@@MalcolmCrabbe depends on the route its taking, system 4 which is the one I'm working with is currently going out at 1800 tnns due to the Devon Banks. 2 66s are employed regardless of weight.

What do these wagons do, is it track laying ballasts? -no need to reply just read the description!!!

Looks like all Network Rails stock was allon that train!

This must be a track maintenance vehicle.

Bloody hell I've never seen one as long as that, I wonder what all the rolling stock was for

@steveluckhurst2350

Жыл бұрын

Ballast cleaning.

@TheClockwise770

Жыл бұрын

2

@mickavoidant4780

Жыл бұрын

Look for High Output Ballast Cleaner. Network Rail has a showcase in KZread.

Great video, thank you. Longest in UK possibly, but USA freights I've counted at 166+.

@TheGameCamer360

Жыл бұрын

The clue in the title being “UK” in capital letters.

@bfcmik

Жыл бұрын

US trains, especially on the Transcon can run to 16000 feet, around 5000 metres. These are seen fairly regularly nowadays but have to be run as priority freights as they cannot fit into any sidings or one signal spacing. Often their use is to the detriment of other freight and, especially, Amtrak services.

Yes it is

I want to see one of these things actually working !

@ianjones4116

Жыл бұрын

Me too 😀👍

@dangerousbrian9949

Жыл бұрын

See what I can do. I'm on annual leave for a week now

I counted 39.

What is all that equipment for? What does it do?

Hope I never I have to wait at a level crossing for it to pass

Think it could be

3:19 I was wondering if it was one locomotive doing the work

Did I see that right, all those cars hauled by only 2 locos 😮😮😮

@trainsplanes

Жыл бұрын

Yes - One loco at each end 👍

I love the class 66. I know little about trains but it seems to me they punch aboe their weight when it comes to pulling power. And they look good too!

@trainsplanes

Жыл бұрын

Hi John, They’re definitely working hard here to get this payload moving.

@themanformerlyknownascomme777

11 ай бұрын

the class 66 is the Anglosized version of the American SD40-2, in the states anything that can be be pulled by 1 train is considered to be light-work (a more standard train will have 2 or more engines hooked up and working together to pull even longer trains)

yes it is a long one

Inb4 Americans comment "hurr durr our trains are 4x that length"

@simonvaughan788

Жыл бұрын

Might be but you run 8 locomotives for that.

I may be wrong, but is that entire monster of a train hauled souly by 2 class 66s?

@trainsplanes

Жыл бұрын

Yes! One loco at end each, top and tail 👍

Wow I think they would have to loop passenger trains to avoid that monster train.

@michaelmacdonell4834

Жыл бұрын

When they are working it's usually either on a complete possession of the line, or trains run past on the opposite line if available.

The longest train is the Freightliner junbo train that consists of 39 wagons

Apologies if this is an SBO question but with a train such as this is the control gear of the two loco's electrically connected through the length of the train so both respond as one or is it the skill of the rear driver mimicking what the front loco is doing?

@dangerousbrian9949

Жыл бұрын

Graham, there is a driver per loco. The leading driver can contact the rear driver via gsmr phone to ask for power assistance, although the drivers know the route so usually know when to give power

@bfcmik

Жыл бұрын

@@dangerousbrian9949 No, the driver of the lead loco controls the whole of the train through an electrical link (maybe even radio- linked nowadays) so both locos share the load. The driver in the rear loco who was picked up at Crewe would be there for if the train had to reverse.

@dangerousbrian9949

Жыл бұрын

@Mike Price that's incorrect. There is a driver per loco there is no electric cable. As I said before, the lead driver is in overall control obviously but when it comes to needing assistance to get up a steep gradient, they will phone the rear driver via the gsmr in cab phone for them to power up. I've worked for Freightliner for over 10 years on the high output ballast cleaner systems and the track relaying system and there's definitely no cable!

@bfcmik

Жыл бұрын

@@dangerousbrian9949 UK trains routinely use dispersed drive control, especially in the multiple traction axles used by most passenger emus and dmus. Even the Class 43 HST had single driver operation despite having power cars at each end. Freight trains have connectivity throughout their length both for the air brakes and, in the case of a 'banked' train (except for 1 end steam haulage) for lights and power control. In any crew change I have seen, either in person, or in KZread videos I have never seen drivers in 2 locos on a train.

@dangerousbrian9949

Жыл бұрын

@Mike Price well then it must be a figment of my imagination then Mike when the HOBC or TRT is cancelled due to not having 2 drivers to take it out!! Of course HST's do not have 2 drivers, there's no need to on the simple fact that they don't weigh 2,500 tnn plus and are electrically through wired where as any freight train I have ever worked on is not electrically controlled in any way shape or form

About 700m long I think? Think I've seen Network Rail claim the ballast cleaner is the UK longest train.

I hope this isn't a stupid question, but how do you get two locos to exert the same tractive force so that one isn't pushing or pulling the other to some degree?

@09weenic

Жыл бұрын

I think the rear loco is actually dead so the front loco is doing all the work

@jerribee1

Жыл бұрын

@@09weenic Thanks. That's certainly a powerful loco.

@helmitpeak

Жыл бұрын

Here in the U.S., the rear loco works in tandem with the front loco by radio. Whatever the lead loco does, so does the rear. There is no crew on the rear loco.

@PoxyMoxon97

Жыл бұрын

Gerald - Not a stupid question. I don't think it's easy to stop pulling/pushing as different locos may act differently from each other (1 might be somewhat tired and have worn motors so have reduced tractive effort where the other has had some fresh motors fitted with hardly any wear for example) - you could ask the same question for locos working in multiple with slight pushing/pulling motions depending on their individual tractive effort. But regardless the rear loco will help up banks as the front loco either can't haul or may struggle to haul and/or keep to time whilst hauling the train up some gradients on its own. The HOBC/BCS' & TRS' have to have drivers powering both locos on all moves to and from site if possible - usually.

@Nate0493

Жыл бұрын

They’re connected via wiring, it’s essentially the same as a push pull system like those in the DVTs

No, the merehead jumbo trains are the longest and heaviest. There is a video on here of 2x 56's drawing one back after the 59 failed, very long.

Ballast wagons ?

The longest train would be the euro tunnel

Good heavens… where is that going to fit?

@PoxyMoxon97

Жыл бұрын

Simon & Sam - Tyne Yard, Toton Sandiacre, Fairwater Yard, Parkeston, Whitemoor or Crewe Basford Hall. HO did used Willesden Euroterminal around 2015 but then that closed down(?), now in use for the OOC HS2 works? There's 3x BCS machines so you'll see multiple around. Then you have the 2 TRS machines which are dotted about, one is Parkeston at the moment

@dodgy1954

Жыл бұрын

@@PoxyMoxon97 many thanks for knowledgable reply 😀

@dodgy1954

Жыл бұрын

@@PoxyMoxon97 interesting. Thank you

@PoxyMoxon97

Жыл бұрын

@@dodgy1954 no worries at all mate. I work for High Output so these places are our bases for the trains

Must be at least two miles long

Is that real?

no i've seen longer through Cardiff

max 750m

Yes and no

Well if the yanks/Aussies can do it well I suppose we can too

Oi

Bro these are like average indian loads 45 cars Australia has biggest trains

What are the Wagons for?

@timstrainvideos142

Жыл бұрын

as i understand it, washing the ballast, removing smaller pieces and dirt, and then reusing the bigger pieces again. never seen one in operation though.

@greatunwashed1856

Жыл бұрын

@@timstrainvideos142 . Thanks.

@robertdu-roe4434

Жыл бұрын

It’s the high output train m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZnWjz9CMktHdpdY.html

@dangerousbrian9949

Жыл бұрын

The High Output Ballast Cleaner uses a cutter bar (which is housed in the RM, the middle bit of the machine), this removes the old ballast which is conveyed into one half of the train (spoil portion) to be disposed of at a spoil tip. simultaneously new ballast is fed from the opposite end of the train into a hopper in the ballast power car which Is then dropped into the 4ft/cess

@greatunwashed1856

Жыл бұрын

@@dangerousbrian9949 , many thanks for a fulsome reply.

Those wagons seem to each have their own conveyor. I have not a clue what this rolling stock actually does

@trainsplanes

Жыл бұрын

Hi Randle, they are called HOBC - High output ballast cleaner.