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@antontaranenko8824

Ай бұрын

You should definitely dive into the Vintage Lenses World😊 but be careful it might become an obsession ending up in hundreds of amazing lenses with total price of high end camera and modern lenses set... Like it happened to me😅😅 🤣😂👍 but I don't regret it at all, as my works have always unique look, compare to those who is using modern clinically clear gear...😮

@scud69er

8 күн бұрын

Quick question! In your opinion, which would be a better lens for interior photography? 7artisans 25mm F1.8 or the Pergear 25mm F1.8?

As I return to hobby photography after a decade-long hiatus, I find that a lot of "influencers" spend much of their time trying to impress viewers with their high-end gear and pixel-peaking-worthy results. I get the sense that most of us hobbyists are more interested in having fun and producing usable results (for our meager purposes) than in maxing out our gear specs and creating extremely precise images. That makes inexpensive lenses like this so compelling.

@OSMTraining

3 ай бұрын

it's definitely gotten bad. I joined a facebook group of hobbyist photography in my area and had to leave with people so judgmental on equipment. So many people buying $5000 kits to get into photography for the first time.

@rangersmith4652

3 ай бұрын

@@OSMTraining In those circles, I would recommend going onto KEH or MPB (good return policies and a six-month warranty) and ordering a

@bondgabebond4907

3 ай бұрын

Sad that too many of these 'influencers' push product. They make it as if aps-c or MFT is inferior. Photography should be fun. Once I joined the USAF and ended up in the Philippines, I bought a Pentax Spotmatic F and had the best time taking pictures all over the Philippines. Today, it's all hype, all about the gear and no concern for expense. This is why I commented to Mark Bennett Camera Crisis to show how a camera and lens works in the field. Show us what it can do, not tell me about the product in the studio. Shooting outdoors vs. a chart on the wall are two entirely different things. I have Sony, one A7R3 and the a6700, a6600 and a6500. They are my preferred camera for being small and lightweight. I get as good a picture from the aps-c as I do with the A7R3 (except when I severely crop a photo of a small bird, etc.) Generally, when I shoot pictures are larger than tiny objects, the image quality difference is miniscule. Some of my best photos of my grandson is with the a6600.

@apislapis

3 ай бұрын

@@rangersmith4652 Stop it now! That's two comments and you made perfect sense in both. Sadly we're living in an age of 'all the gear but no idea.' May you continue to get as much pleasure out of photography as you possibly can. Best wishes.

@apislapis

3 ай бұрын

@@bondgabebond4907 You sound like you've got your head screwed on right. A biproduct of watching too many influencers, could that be influenza?

I have been shooting budget and vintage lenses for about one year. The biggest suprise is that I seldom miss the ability to auto focus. It is a great way to learn zone focusing and aperture settings. Manual focus is not really a problem when shooting video either, as you will never ruin a shot when your camera starts searching or loses a focus point.

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

I know! I feel the same. Good insight, thanks for sharing.

Just grabbed a 7artisans 25mm second hand and spent 2 hours in our Cathedral w the aperture wide open with my Fujifilm X-T1. What a lens! At that price! Thx a lot for your inspiring videos on low budget lenses. This experience pushed me into a new direction. Thanks again!

I had this lens for a while now, and I love shots I've taken with it. At one point, I sort of didn't like it as much and tried to sell it for really cheap but no one was buying it. I decided to try it a few more times after a while and just learned to love it and use it if I need that focal length (aside from using my zoom). Also love how close you can get. Great lens, especially for how much you're paying for.

Just ordered mines thank you!

Bought the silver version of this lens yesterday because it had that vintage look. Glad to know I made a good choice.

This has been my favorite street photography lens for some years now. Its surprisingly sharp and compact. Best casual lens.

Nicely done. I just picked one up £79 on Amazon Fuji. My 1st impressions is very good. It's sharp & easy to focus @f1.8.

Affordable or ultra-budget lenses hold a special place in my heart! I adore their imperfections, quirky charm, and unique surprises they bring to photography. And I absolutely love experimenting with all of them! While I do own prime lenses, my true preference lies in the realm of low or ultra-low budget lenses. These unassuming gems allow me to have more fun, evoke emotions, and infuse my photography with unique personality.

I *just* ordered this lens over the weekend. My go-to is my X100v however I set out to create a poor man’s GRiii for something more discreet. To that end I have been shooting on an XM-1 with the TT Artisans 27mm 2.8 - a fun pocketable lens - however I feel like it suffers a little during midday shooting. Enter the 7artisans 25mm f1.8 - word across the board is its sharpness and contrast are impressive. Very much looking forward to seeing if that holds true. Your reviews are very much appreciated.

Thank you for this video. I really appreciate it! I've been comparing/contrasting these two lenses with a few others in the 25-28mm range, and am having trouble making a decision, so this video is right place right time for me. Thanks.

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Good to hear.

i have this lens since a year a half and it has been really good and so much fun to use specially for Street Photography, i use it on my Fuji XE-1 and i do recommended it for any one who is looking for a budget lens to use, 7artisans lenses are amazing, I have a plan to buy the one with the F0,95, Thank you for this video and looking forward to watch the next one.

Excellent review Mark 👍Shocking quality for that price point!

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Thanks. Yea, it's amazes me that they can even make functioning lenses at these prices.

@Jason_Hermann

3 ай бұрын

@@markwiemels Let alone all metal!!

Excellent review. The 7artisans 25mm is my go‐to lens primarily for its bokeh and min focus.

i love this lens. I'm a noob and got this as my first lens. Shot a music video with it and my friend was so amazed, called me a profession lol.

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

That's awesome.

I have been using it for almost 2 years and the image quality is amazing

Thanks for sharing your knowledge!! Just started learning videography and bought a Sony zv e10 body. Would you say the 7artisans is a good first lens to begin with or you would prefer someone else in a 200€ budget?

This is the review I’ve been waiting for on this channel. I’ve been considering this for my Canon EOS M50 because I think it would be more versatile than my adapted Canon FD lenses.

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I think it is too.

Thanks for another great video. I am looking for guidance. Here's my gear so far. Canon M50 Mark II Canon 15-45mm Kit Lens Sigma 30mm F1.4 Canon 50mm F1. 8 on a Viltrox Adapter Canon 50-200mm I mostly do landscape and nature photography, and I have an urge to buy a wide angle lens with a bigger aperture than the kit lens. Should I buy a budget lens, for example a 12mm or a 25mm? Or is it an overkill considering the lenses I have?

I do video using Fuji and you have sold me on the 7 Artisans. Thanks.

I've had this lens for about 3 years now, and it's a pretty solid performer. However it was made for micro four thirds (and I would advise you to use it on an MFT camera as a 50mm equiv if you want to take full advantage of it). On APS-C, we clearly get outside of the area for which 7artisans have corrected it. What does that mean? Well center is extremely sharp but the corners are absolutely horrendous. This is especially apparent at closer focusing distances. Even when you stop the lens down, they don't sharpen up until about f/11 (which is not indicated on the aperture ring??), and that's also where the image softens up due to diffraction. In a nutshell, it's a really good lens if you want shallow DOF, with a subject in the center of the frame. For everything else, either shoot crop 1:1 or stop down the lens at f/11 or tighter, and accept the diffraction limits. Forget landscape photography if you want maximum sharpness with it. It's not a bad lens. It's a very good value for what it is even. King of budget lenses though? That just makes me want to NOT look at the other budget lenses...

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

I don't mind some soft edges and corners, there are some very expensive cine lenses that give this same look, but that is a good thing for people to know. Thanks for sharing it.

Nice Bokeh, so clean and round! Nice job on the review!

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, yes, it's crazy good.

In this ballpark, I don't think I'd give up my 23mm F1.4 from TTArtistan. I can't recommend it more for those who are cool with going full manual and want a 35mm full frame equivalent. Cool video, as always.

Lo primero agradecerte todos tus vídeos, los considero interesantísimos. Con relación a este lente ....Es el hermano gemelo del Meike 25 mm f1.8 ?

Thanks for the video, since you have experience with Canon M line, would you recommend this lens over the canon 22 f2? This would be as far as quality, money isn’t an objection since they’re both pretty cheap

Thank you for another insightful video! By the way have you ever tried the 7Artisans 50mm f1.8, the TTArtisan 50mm f2, and the Meike 50mm f2 lenses? I'm currently looking for a small and compact, almost pancake sized 50mm lens and these 3 seems like the best candidate; I'm not really sure which of them I should pick since there's practically nobody who compared them before (the Meike in particular seems to lack any info in general). Please do tell if you know of any other cheap lens like what I've described and is available for the Fuji X mount, it would be much appreciated.

Just ordered this for my canon eos m : ) been using a 35mm cctv lens and are really looking forward to test out the 25mm : )

I owned this lens for quite some time and I mostly agree with you. My only criticism and the reason I sold it, was that it is not possible to zone focus. There is a focus scale on the lens yes but mine (and apparently others who wrote about it online) was completely off. Still a great lens but keep that in mind, if you buy it for street.

@Canadianforestfairy

7 күн бұрын

Did you try the TT artisan comparable one he talks about?

Looking at getting a Sony ZV-E10 and debating between these two lenses instead of the kit lens option. My primary goal is to use it for bowling videos / vlogging. Which of the two would you suggest best fits this need?

i'll be picking it up.

I love these videos you're doing - just recently picked up a fuji xt5 and I'm loving using manual lenses.

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I love shooting these lenses on Fuji.

I actually prefer to manual focus. It's how I learned photography way back in high school (B&W only, fully manual, developing the film and image prints by hand) and love the hands-on approach it forces. It's why, after having and loving my Canon 70D for a decade for its live view and video, I got a used Fujifilm X-T2 for its dials and ability to ignore bells and whistles with being forced to manual focus with the cheap lenses.

I’m trying to choose between these two 25mm lenses for my lumix gm1. A factor important to me is close up shots. Which one has the best close focus distance/magnification ratio?

just bought this lens for my Sony a6400 - gonna take it out today and see how I get on, defo gonna be strange not having autofocus and an electronic viewfinder but I feel it will give me more of a feeling of a vintage 35mm Olympus Pen. it is a gorgeous looking lens and after my canon 50mm L broke after 3 months and £300 I feel this one won't be ask heartbreaking and damaging to my pocket!!

And that is why I went with viltrox AF 24mm f1.8, picked it up for 180... Can't beat that value

Just ordered one from Amazon. Enjoy your commission Watched several of your vids (and subscribed) over the past week. Amd I ordered a 10mm TTartisan a few days ago as well ... because of your review. I will be using this on an Sony a6400 "body" that I will received in a few days. Since the cost of the a6400 was way above my budget ( ), I need to get a couple of inexpensive lenses that would work for my basic use case. Cheers, Chuck (North East Florida)

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Enjoy! a6400 is a great camera too.

My friend gave me this lens to me for free 3 years ago not thinking it was anything special but I've honestly used this lens more than any lens on the go I've owned. Its light weight and non intrusiveness traveling is everything. You can pixel peep and diss on its affordability all you want

Another great vid as usual! I picked up a second hand eos m recently, and all these lenses look so great but I just can't justify replacing the AF 22mm I got on the eos m. Maybe I should check out something like a 50mm...i find the 22mm is hard work, even on street shooting...

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Just because the 22mm is too wide? If that’s the case, I suspect a 35mm would be perfect. I should have some of those coming up, as well as some 50mm.

@MaarifInstituteTV

3 ай бұрын

Waiting for your review of 50mm, 85 m budget lens for portrait photography on APSC (Canon m50)

@deeplaysit

3 ай бұрын

@@markwiemels yeah, I live behind the gold coast, I find that in a quiet semi rural town, or in the thick of it in the crowds it's still too wide. Also the AF is so slow on the eos m, especially compared to my r8. Part of the appeal of the mf lens is to force my own personal growth with mf and capurting those street scenes. I normally shoot astro so it's slightly different haha. Can't wait to see those 35mm reviews!

The 1st lens I bought when I got my camera. I still use it in a sea of lenses!

Love your videos. Real newbie here - have the ZVE10. Will this lens just replace the kit lens without any adaptor?. Want better back ground blur for video streaming.

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Yes, it will.

@timelesswonderfoundation

3 ай бұрын

@@markwiemels Thanks!

It would be great if you show the full frame coverage when you review apsc lenses. Sometimes is more than enough for full frame, with only a bit of vignette. It's interesting for all of us that use full frame cameras

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

That’s a great idea, but I order all my manual APS-C lenses on Fuji, so no full frame option.

@bradl2636

3 ай бұрын

I second this Mark. We've discussed the APS-C coverage on FF in a number of your reviews. Great opportunity to switch to a FF supported platform 🫣

@iarosnaps

3 ай бұрын

@@markwiemels these guys are right, for example TTartisan 35mm f/1.4 almost covers full frame, so for $80 damn bucks you can get a fast ff lens.

@bondgabebond4907

3 ай бұрын

@@markwiemels These lenses work great on the SONY ZV-E1 as demonstrated by Peter Gregg (Mr. Christmas). When using active stabilization or the setting with the highest cropping, all the vignetting vanishes, and you not only get great video, but you also get great stabilization. I don't have the ZV-E1 so I am not totally familiar with all the stabilization modes. I'm sticking with Sony, love their aps-c bodies and the enormous selection of lenses available. One thing I hope you mention is that we can have as much fun, get great images with crop sensor camera bodies. I'm amazed what my a6700 can do, even when compared to my A7R3. Keep an eye out for the ZV-E10 M2. That is going to be a killer camera that will sell for less than $1k. BTW, like many oldsters in your audience, we are very familiar with totally manual cameras. My first was the Pentax Spotmatic F. Loved that camera, got great images from it. Ended up with a Nikon F2 when I was in Japan. Being in the military and getting station overseas had to benefits. I got to travel at military expense and get buy cameras and other products without paying customs. What a deal.

Thank you! ✌️🇵🇸

Aw man if I didn't already own 4 other lenses I'd totally get this!

my new cap, thanks

What lens do you recommend for automobiles? Particularly, car shows?

@chosenideahandle

3 ай бұрын

I don't like the way cars look shooting wide, but when you're at a car show you don't have much choice (people get in the way once you have to step back). If you have a full frame camera your probably looking at a 35 or max 50mm, and on APS-C a 15 to a 35mm. Outdoors without people around, I actually like shooting cars with portrait focal lengths (50+ on APS-C and 85+ on full-frame).

I have the Canon 24mm pancake f/2.8 lens. I know what you mean about lenses around 24 or 25mm, they give you more space. 50mm on APS-C just fills the frame too much.

I’ve got an XF27mm 2.8 and the Brighten Star 35mm 0.95 - do you see anything this lens brings to that lineup? Those shots were just beautiful and I’m thinking about grabbing one for variety of bokeh, but it seems like it would basically be doing what I already have

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Better low light than the 27mm, more subject isolation, and the fun and enjoyment of manual shooting. 25mm and 35mm are very different, so no overlap there.

Hmm, how is this lens compared to the 22mm? Will I gain much from this lens if I already have the 22mm? Any thoughts on that? :)

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

It would give a little tighter frame, but it would mostly be about buying a fun and interesting manual focus lens (in your case).

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. If you own a emount camera, you don’t want to spend thousands on lenses. This video explains what this lens does really well. Thank you,

I'm more inclined to like the 7 Artisans lens, but TT has been doing a slightly better job. However, great video, as always. FP!

It is a great lens for the price, especially the close up performance. However, it might be worth noting that the edges are muddy and the manual focus experience can be challenging - at least on my copy. The focus throw is very short and a turn of one mm can be the difference between in focus and totally out of focus, even for subjects far away. So it can be a slow process where you need to rely on magnification for the best result. I would not trust the markings on the lens and if you try zone focusing you will have to stop down more than you would on another lens or be prepared to miss many shots.

It's stuck to my X-E2s. Razor thin focal plane, great minimum focus distance, and beautiful bokeh.

Hi ,, really nice video! Can you please share a link for smooth focus lens you talked about for videographers? (non-clicking focus ring) thanks!

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Yes, that is this lens, it's de-clicked.

@adverspace

3 ай бұрын

@@markwiemels ohh... Thanks!

I've got this in EF-M #RIP. It's pretty great.

Absolutely love this lens and the auto focus shouldn’t be a drawback specially if you’re new to photography. Even in video, let’s be honest Fuji (at least the older models) aren’t that good in their autofocus as it is you’re not missing much. Thanks!

I second that!

Yo that bokeh quality is crazy! Get ready to have this lens sold out lol.

Mah dude ✊️🤜🤛

I have the Pergear model, it is great.

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I have the Pergear too, yet to test it. Similar specs, but they do appear to be different lenses.

@SrCordeiro

3 ай бұрын

@@markwiemels They are different lenses indeed. I've found the Pergear to be the best of the bunch, superior sharpness and micro-contrast. It also seems to not suffer from mechanical issues like the 7artisans does based on various reports.

@bradl2636

3 ай бұрын

@@SrCordeiroDoes the Pergear have clicked aperture?

@chidorirasenganz

3 ай бұрын

@@bradl2636nope

@SrCordeiro

3 ай бұрын

@@bradl2636 Sadly it doesn't.

Is it better than the TTArtisan 23mm f1.4?

What is the best lens for a Sony zve10 for podcast?

Please feature mirrorless lense too.

Need the lens for EF or RF mount for my Canon R7

TTArtisan AF 27mm F2.8 gets you autofocus for an extra £40 but the tradeoff is the f stop. Makes it an all around more useable lens though.

Can this be put on an EF camera?

25/1.8 is a Fantastic lens I used it a lot with my fuji xT10 But in my opinion, the built is terrible cheaper than its price. The lens spontaneously fell apart once, the front barrel and front element detached while i was shooting and turning the aperture ring.thankfully I could assemble and put them back easily. I value this lens about 20-30 bucks for maximum.

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Mine is rock solid, but there can be variation.

So funny, I found this lens almost a year ago, but it had a price error so I only paid 15 bucks... Didn't mind as much that it was the silver one lol

Hands down, best lens channel on KZread ❤

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Geez. That’s a compliment, thank you very much.

@luisbustamante9869

3 ай бұрын

@@markwiemels And with a heart too. Love the demo clip... Brigs us back to reality.

I have the Pergear 25mm F1.8 on my Fooj X-E2 and it’s the best 60$ I have ever spent on Photography.

Can you do this same series but for full frame lenses?

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I have now had a few people ask, I will. Thanks for asking.

Will buy one for my IR moded Fuji X-A2 so I don‘t have to take my wife’s lenses on my trips. A lens with 80mm and a similar price/result ratio would be great. The camera is not often in use and so my budget is limited

could you make the same for full frame lenses?

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

That’s a good idea. I’ll order every full frame lens under $100. Or should I move that up a little for full frame? I might have to, maybe $150 or something. What do you think?

ahh thanks for reviewing i bought this with Meike 25mm F1.8 tbh if i gave head to head bit confuse sometimes which one meike which one 7artisans due almost same characteristic but i would say 7artisans win in terms of smooth characteristic image result but if talk about sharpness in my opinion Meike sliiiiiightly win

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Good info, thanks. I think I have the Meike to test too.

The Amazon link for Fuji takes you to micro 4/3rds.

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Thank you, I'll check it out, it may be because Amazon has sold out already.

Dang, happy they make one for the Canon M mount, however, Silver = $73 and black version = $319? WTH?

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Probably not a real price, just no stock.

Thank you, no L or RF mount

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

I know, which is annoying, when I made the video I thought that had RF at least.

@youarethechief

3 ай бұрын

They cant make it in RF mount, because Canon would sue them. So that's on Canon actually.

@lumixS5M2

3 ай бұрын

@@youarethechief Pfffff Canon. MF lenses is oke.

I don’t understand how you can use this on a FF? It’s an APC lens. Does it vignette?

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

I have not tested it. I have the Fuji version, so no full frame to set it on.

I had the pergear version, and it was really bad with flaring. Loved the lens but the flaring made it unusable for me

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I have seen other say that about that one.

All I can say is that you must have got a better one than I did… I bought it for Fuji X mount and it is shockingly bad. Has terrible chromatic aberration and really soft image. I bought it back in 2022 so maybe they have improved it?? If nothing else it did convince me to buy a Fuji 23mm lens. The 7artisans 35mm f1.2 on the other hand is great!

No EOS RF mount?

@kingshukpal6848

3 ай бұрын

I too was checking for that. Seems like there isn't any for RF mount

It's an amazing compact lens, but the focusing ring turns to an opposite direction. Sadly this was a dealbreaker. Also f/1.8 is fake, because if you close the aperture down to f/2.8 you won't see any exposure changes.

This lens lives on my xe3. Try it using a mist filter

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

oh, good tip!

Why didn't you show the size difference with the height? They look exactly the same when you're just showing the front.

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

There is not much in it, similar width, 7Artisans is about 1 cm or 1/4 longer.

I hate this Lens but i love it. 👍🏼

I owned this for canon eos m and I kinda hated it. QC must be terrible because mine had super rough and loose aperture and focus rings. the flaring is pretty unbearable too, the 35mm f1.4 is much, much better

Another Honda commercial where people are driving crazy fast and dangerous. Driving on LA freeways is a race to 5mph at times. Since I see so much love for the ZV-E10, all the lenses and adapters available, how about a sub section on this camera and ways it can make the next blockbuster or just great videos on the cheap. I have one, the a6700 and A7CR, and I have to say the ZV-E10 is incredible despite the cost. Being the bestselling camera in Japan, it would be nice to see videos dedicated to this camera. And slip in some side info on the other crop sensor brands. I'm tired of the overpriced native lenses and see so many alternative lenses from so many different companies. It's stupid to think making a video requires more than a $700 camera body and inexpensive lenses. When I shoot stills, I like the extra megapixels of the A7CR but for videos, the ZV-E10 and a6700 is more than enough.

Got the Neweer version of this for about 50$...

I got bored with this lens, but it is good for macro work.

The lens never seems to be for the camera I own. Not even for the Canon APS-C ef-s mount? Shame.

Artisans fartisans no wonder you're getting confused when they sound pretty similar. Instead of standing out from the crowd let's pick a name that sounds just like another firm! Ha ha ha. Keep up the fantastic work Mr Wiemels, always love watching your videos.

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Actually one of the "Artisans" was started by someone who left the other one!

@apislapis

3 ай бұрын

@@markwiemels Yes I had read that, but I'm not sure adding some other letters in front of 'artisan' makes it distinctive? Would 6-Sony or FF-Canon be okay? Ultimately it's the quality of the lenses that speak, but just wondering Mark. I'll leave it there.

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

@@apislapis oh yah, I think it’s absurd too. I wasn’t disagreeing with you. They must really like artisans ;-)

Agreed on all points. This is the lens to get! I found my copy had significantly less vignette than my TTARTISANS 25mm F2 copy. Like and subscribe people! Great content!

37mm is not wide enough. I have 16mm which is very good but I wish I have 11mm.

I like this lens but I wished it had clicked aperture

@markwiemels

3 ай бұрын

Me too.

too bad there is no Ef-s mount

We dont need the best lens We need only a photographic eye

I have the Fuji 23mm f2 lens. Why would I want to purchase this lens? Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

out the Fkin name in the title please

The aperture is non existant.

Palestine we see you ;)

@roygumpel8415

3 ай бұрын

yeah, we sort of see you and we don''t do much about it.