Is THIS the future of CD players? (I think it might be)

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  • @Turrican
    @Turrican Жыл бұрын

    Does anyone else watch these just for the music recommendations? I can't afford any of the equipment but I can buy the odd CD every month 😂

  • @eddie4130

    @eddie4130

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too! John is my main source of new and old music!

  • @sumitbali9194

    @sumitbali9194

    Жыл бұрын

    I guess the charm of physical equipments is more engaging that the digital music we get on streaming services. I loved the episodes done on vinyl records, and I have never owned one. The love for music is what keeps bringing back to this channel for already watched episodes

  • @oscarcharliezulu

    @oscarcharliezulu

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually yes! Though i did buy a set of KEF LSX’s after seeing them here

  • @trevorhunton7526

    @trevorhunton7526

    Жыл бұрын

    I can afford the equipment but have never been convinced it's worth the money.

  • @timdawson103

    @timdawson103

    11 ай бұрын

    I didn’t listen to any of the stuff JD does, but now I’m hooked!

  • @punking262
    @punking262 Жыл бұрын

    But if the Evo 150 dies, or Cambridge Audio decide not to continue with the Evo connection, doesn’t that make your Evo CD player with only that one proprietary connection useless?

  • @snapea

    @snapea

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, and it pretty much guarantees a fair number of these will hit landfill in fully working condition. I test electrics for a charity (thrift) shop and I've lost count of the number of such orphaned components I've seen rendered useless without their parent system or cables

  • @andreaspedersen3952
    @andreaspedersen3952 Жыл бұрын

    Best reason to buy CDs? To support the artists, since most streaming services hardly gives any revenue to smaller artists.

  • @raspatism

    @raspatism

    Жыл бұрын

    Most of the artists that need supporting don’t make CDs anymore 😢

  • @WhatJeanWants

    @WhatJeanWants

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed! And the 2nd best reason is that I listen to CDs in my car’s CD player!

  • @rft2001

    @rft2001

    10 ай бұрын

    Agreed. Streaming pays just about nothing. And plenty of new artists put out cd's. If by chance one on Bandcamp doesn't, I'll buy the download wav file and burn my own on a high quality disc. Either way, you are supporting the artist much more than streaming.

  • @kgrant67
    @kgrant67 Жыл бұрын

    So, it goes to the internet to access the track info. In other words it can still monitor what you're looking for...

  • @JP-xx5xe
    @JP-xx5xe Жыл бұрын

    Ludicrously overpriced. it’s an off-the-shelf disc mechanism (cost €5 max), stuck inside a case with a PSU and no DAC or display. So maybe €50 tops to make it.

  • @badm0t0rf1nger

    @badm0t0rf1nger

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks - way more succinct than I'd have been! :)

  • @allanflippin2453
    @allanflippin2453 Жыл бұрын

    For me, the reason to buy CDs is one of control. I pay my money, I get something, it's mine. I can enjoy that music long after all the streaming services have grown tired of it or have remastered it to sound like "the sound of today". If you only stream, what do you do when the company gets bought out by somebody else and doesn't think your music is important any more? What do you do when the company jacks up prices just because it can? Am I missing something here?

  • @jackleonard2088

    @jackleonard2088

    Жыл бұрын

    All good points. I’ve continued to buy CDs for similar reasons. I can’t say how many times I’ve opened my iTunes to find things I’ve bought aren’t available. Particularly on soundtracks when the licensing agreements run out. I own a cd and I own that music.

  • @francesschaefer

    @francesschaefer

    Жыл бұрын

    Nope, agree!

  • @francesschaefer

    @francesschaefer

    Жыл бұрын

    You are not missing anything~

  • @ceaget7252

    @ceaget7252

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point. The CDs are mine and I retain control, not to mention I prefer CD sound. I'm keeping my CDs.

  • @snapea

    @snapea

    Жыл бұрын

    It's just a case of different mindsets and it doesn't mean anyone's wrong. For those who stream they don't care about the concept of 'ownership' of that music. They pay for a service getting them access to more music than they could ever listen to for less than the price of a new CD a month. They see no reason to expect massive price hikes or mass removal of music. If you need to know with certainty that you'll still be able to play x mastering of such and such a song 30 years after you first listened to it then you've clearly made the right decision for you. I grew up with physical music and can't imagine not buying physical music... but if I was a teenager starting out now I think I'd be enjoying streaming and not worrying about how I was going to listen to music decades down the line.

  • @joeblankenship377
    @joeblankenship37711 ай бұрын

    No. It's not. It's $1200. If you're going to keep CD alive, you've got to appeal to younger demographics. What CD has going for it is that it's cheap. Cheaper than vinyl, (SOUNDS BETTER THAN VINYL), and compatible with stuff we already own.

  • @imjustherefortheks
    @imjustherefortheks5 ай бұрын

    I'm 42 and I have never bought as many CDs in my life as I have today... I use streaming services, I use DACs and DAPs, but as you said, there is no experience like the "ritual" of playing CDs (or vinyls as well)... I'll keep buying them for as long as they exist...

  • @christravis8288
    @christravis828810 ай бұрын

    At 41 I got my first midi system in '92 and now have over 2000 CDs. I also love streaming. I love hearing a song out and about, finding it on Spotify and adding it to my "listen to this" playlist. The sad thing is, at least 10 of the songs on this playlist are shadowed out, no longer available. This never happens with physical media.

  • @stevefromlondon4949
    @stevefromlondon494911 ай бұрын

    Nice! I still buy tons of CDs, mainly from Japan. I think the Japanese do a pretty good job of keeping physical media relevant, as many of their releases include bonuses, like blu-rays/DVDs of concerts, that you can't get otherwise. Plus it's a far better way of supporting the bands/artists than streaming will ever be.

  • @trezb

    @trezb

    11 ай бұрын

    where do you buy from japan? i got some japanese cds on the way right now and the shipping is NOT kind

  • @djdac7451
    @djdac7451 Жыл бұрын

    I am with you John, I still love CD's! Not gonna give them up.

  • @johnraffin1704

    @johnraffin1704

    Жыл бұрын

    They don't let you down...

  • @CraigK80

    @CraigK80

    Жыл бұрын

    Never gonna let them down …..

  • @vsupe

    @vsupe

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CraigK80 never gonna run around....

  • @HandyAndyTechTips
    @HandyAndyTechTips Жыл бұрын

    An expensive transport with a proprietary connection that only works with one type of amp? I sincerely hope this is not the future of CD players.

  • @alphaniner3770

    @alphaniner3770

    Жыл бұрын

    Seems more like an optional add-on for the amp, than a standalone transport to me. I think that we will see some very interesting standalone transports and cd players emerge too in the coming years, as CD listening seems to have a rivival like records did earlier.

  • @user-qr7ee2cp4y

    @user-qr7ee2cp4y

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point

  • @VeganSmasher
    @VeganSmasher Жыл бұрын

    1,200 euros for a headless CD player with one button? I hope this isn't the future.

  • @Casmael01
    @Casmael01 Жыл бұрын

    the markup on these must be absolutely fucking unbelievable

  • @TheNaka9
    @TheNaka9 Жыл бұрын

    I have a large CD collection (+5000) and I am still much in love with the format. Because of that I have several CD players, plus a couple of transports and dacs. Recently the purchase of a Audiolab 9000CDT stepped up the game considerably. What a wonderful machine! I invite you to try one, John. The Cambridge must be great but only for those who already got or are interested in the partnering amp/dac. The meta data thing is indeed a great thing to have :) Cheers from Portugal :)

  • @jerry-can
    @jerry-can Жыл бұрын

    I love CDs too, but e1200 for a transport that only works with the matching streamer?! Can’t imagine they’ll sell many of these. And if you’ve got the CD case in your hand why do you need the art on the screen?

  • @selectthedead

    @selectthedead

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree, at least give it a USB, optical, coax or HDMI. This Screams closed eco system

  • @JumbleTasteSpinning
    @JumbleTasteSpinning4 ай бұрын

    1,000$+ for a cd player is just crazy, no matter how good is. It's just a cd player!

  • @mikeclark7429

    @mikeclark7429

    2 ай бұрын

    You're probably right, you really need to get up to a $2000 cd player or better to hear how exceptional cd can sound.

  • @RandySmith-iz1ml
    @RandySmith-iz1ml Жыл бұрын

    I do not see much point in handing over $1,200 for a device that is basically only spinning the disc and sending info over a cheap cable.

  • @pixym

    @pixym

    Жыл бұрын

    Fair point about the price of this device !

  • @skumflum3768

    @skumflum3768

    Жыл бұрын

    Price is arbitrary and only reflect what people are willing to pay. You won’t find anything similar

  • @ronaldweed6103

    @ronaldweed6103

    Жыл бұрын

    My cd player cost 12.00$

  • @jamescochrane1310

    @jamescochrane1310

    Жыл бұрын

    I am a big fan of physical media and it's a good time to buy CDS, DVDs and blurays. People basically throwing them away

  • @chuc.dxq3809

    @chuc.dxq3809

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, that's the price for "AuDiOpHiLe gEaR" 😂😂😂

  • @tonycollazorappo
    @tonycollazorappo8 ай бұрын

    I'd rather have a music CD and a movie DVD than a streaming subscription any day. I'm baby boomer and I want to keep my CD/DVDs, the music sound much better.

  • @FreerunMediaService
    @FreerunMediaService Жыл бұрын

    The thing is about the CD's and streaming is that yes a CD is real "private" and it's the feeling you get with holding a CD in your hand, real media. I noticed that streaming sounds like a good idea but a lot of tracks are not available. Even the sometimes known music could not be found on most streaming platforms.

  • @teletesselator

    @teletesselator

    Жыл бұрын

    Streaming is a terrible thing! Me hates it me does! Ripped files and physical media _ROCKS!!!_ Streaming is fine for jogging or in the car though.

  • @allsorts-

    @allsorts-

    11 ай бұрын

    I hate the idea of a monthly subscription for streaming with no ownership. You could pay for years, then when you stop paying you have no music. It's a con. "But you have so much choice." It may be useful if you're a reviewer, or always looking for new bands, but most people I know listen to the same selection of artists.

  • @johnfricano2591
    @johnfricano2591 Жыл бұрын

    Also, to me, CD's, from a transport to a good DAC sound BETTER than streaming the same content. Long live CD's!

  • @artie4017
    @artie4017 Жыл бұрын

    And we own CDs. Streaming is no guarantee.

  • @terryforsythe8083
    @terryforsythe8083 Жыл бұрын

    At €1200, it should include at least one Toslink, digital coax, and/or AES3 output. Some people may want to upgrade other components in their system at some point...

  • @DarkoAudio

    @DarkoAudio

    Жыл бұрын

    This is a fair point!

  • @phnelson033

    @phnelson033

    Жыл бұрын

    Seems like transport controls would also be necessary additions then. Just the 1-button as-is.

  • @jpny4750
    @jpny4750 Жыл бұрын

    How can EVO-CD qualify as future-fi if it has just a single connection that may be only fully supported by Cambridge audio systems?

  • @scyfox.
    @scyfox.11 ай бұрын

    I just want a CD player OFFLINE. A thousand bucks for a cd player that needs to log to the internet and also doesn't have any other output lines it's a HARD NOPE!

  • @stevecurrey

    @stevecurrey

    11 ай бұрын

    You're not the target market. It doesn't need to log on to the internet to play CDs. It's designed to compliment the EVO. I'm not sure why people are struggling to grasp this.

  • @brin57

    @brin57

    10 ай бұрын

    @@stevecurrey people are struggling to grasp why a dumb cd transport would be 1200 quid !

  • @keytrackmusicreviews
    @keytrackmusicreviews Жыл бұрын

    If it does so little work, why the 1200 price tag?

  • @Bozlee22
    @Bozlee2211 ай бұрын

    I don’t see myself needing anything besides, my OPPO 205, which plays CDs, SACD, DVD-Audio, DSD and other high-resolution files, DVDs, Blu-ray, Blu-ray Audio, CD-R, and recordable DVD-R and not to mention 4K discs, 7.1 output and HDMI input and it happens to sound fantastic as well. i’m good

  • @brin57
    @brin5711 ай бұрын

    Hang on a minute. If the evo 150 is doing all the heavy lifting, then the evo cd is just a dumb transport with a digital out disguised as a stereo mini jack. I'm waiting to get my mind blown as to why it would be $1200 quid !! This is just pure audiophile f*^kery !!!

  • @lp9290
    @lp9290 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, nice presentation, but what I cannot realize is why in the world should I spend 1200 euro to stream a cd to a dac when I can rip the cd in any pc and put the files ripped in my nas at no cost at all.

  • @badm0t0rf1nger

    @badm0t0rf1nger

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm kinda peeved I can only like this comment once! :)

  • @DNGR369

    @DNGR369

    Жыл бұрын

    Because if you already had a large CD collection there's no way you're sitting there ripping 400 CDs, and also you want to see the cover and maybe look at the foldout booklet etc. There's something special about putting on a record, and this goes to CDs also for some. Owning that music is gold. Also the space between swapping CDs and choosing another is like a 'theatrical break'. Apposed to instant no gaps queues and streams. It doesn't compare. A Nas you also have to keep running 24/7 and not every has or cares for this

  • @robinr5787

    @robinr5787

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, no need for a NAS (costs), perhaps better sound (as he mentioned), and the whole process of handling a CD (as I like to do). But you can do that cheaper without the whole meta data display.

  • @yenbbc8840
    @yenbbc88405 ай бұрын

    since 1983 i have only purchased cds including dvd-a, sacd, and blu ray audio. the only lps i have acquired are for wall art. now is the time to buy used cd's as people are giving them away at donation places and yard sales. last year i got 225 cds for $10. in most instances a 40 year old cd will have stood the test of time over its lp counterpart.

  • @PeterComber
    @PeterComber Жыл бұрын

    Totally into the tea ceremony of CDs!

  • @AlexandruBurda

    @AlexandruBurda

    Жыл бұрын

    Me to. I even blow the dust from the playing surface with a rubber pair before inserting it in the player. 🙂

  • @professortrog7742
    @professortrog77425 ай бұрын

    Ill stick to a secondhand pioneer from the 90ties, thanks.

  • @ScotH_

    @ScotH_

    5 ай бұрын

    ^^ THIS! The stable platter Pioneer Elite players are better than anything made prior or after them. If I want to play a CD, that would be my go-to. These days my entire collection is ripped and served up on a NAS, so the Pioneer Elite CD doesn't see much action. People still listen to streaming services?

  • @Ribos87
    @Ribos8710 ай бұрын

    So this video is a nearly 18 minute ad for a $1200 CD player designed to work with a similarly-expensive amp. But it only ever felt like you were selling me on CDs as a medium (which, believe me, I've been sold on them for 30+ years). At no point did I hear of any killer features that justified spending 100x more than a CD-playing Walkman I could pick up at a thrift shop. One of the joys of CDs vs. tapes or vinyl is that you don't need to be concerned about the quality of the reader - it's incredibly easy to get a 100% perfect signal off any (undamaged) disc. There is no need to spend this kind of money for this function.

  • @andreasmaximus6116
    @andreasmaximus6116 Жыл бұрын

    I have a CD player that is so old it doesn't have a remote. The ritual of inserting the disk, programming tracks or just listening to the entire disk without skipping, is an experience many youngsters just wouldn't understand. For me it's what makes listening real, like attending a recital.

  • @alphaniner3770

    @alphaniner3770

    Жыл бұрын

    I fully agree. Streaming is like going to a movie theater with multiple rooms, open doors and no seats.

  • @Bzz22
    @Bzz22 Жыл бұрын

    in awe of your music tastes & knowledge . Long live CD + LPs .

  • @sixergixer
    @sixergixer Жыл бұрын

    John, I'm like you being of an era where CD playback was our 'vinyl' experience -- that's totally our nostalgic way of consuming music! I still have nearly every CD I ever bought and I spin them on the regular. I appreciate the ethos behind wonderful videos like this. Thanks for keeping CDs shiny, John! 🙌🏻

  • @SteveBrandon
    @SteveBrandon8 ай бұрын

    Eh, call me old-fashioned but I think I'd rather have a CD player that doesn't require an Internet connection for functionality as a CD player. I don't need a screen showing me the cover art.

  • @fhood2011

    @fhood2011

    5 ай бұрын

    Exactly. The cover art is literally at your fingertips.

  • @jackbrugts330

    @jackbrugts330

    5 ай бұрын

    Obviously you don`t need a screen to show you the cover art when you have the cover art right in your hand. That`s how stupid this whole concept is.

  • @scotthamilton007
    @scotthamilton007 Жыл бұрын

    A subscription to a streaming service makes you a slave, vulnerable to the vagaries and whims of the providers who only care about stealing your money and couldn’t give two shits about rare or vanishing audio. God bless the “collector” who is the most trustworthy curator of the rare because of his love for it. This is true of any medium. I have many vinyl LPs, for example, which are long out of print and never commercially transferred to CD. Besides the fact that CDs provide incorruptible, permanent ownership of niche music and audio recordings-along with printed cover art and liner notes!-which may be out-of-print or otherwise unavailable on streaming services, CDs offer LOSSLESS AUDIO, outclassing any other audio format. For these reasons, I will always go the CD route whenever possible and cherish and protect my vinyl and CD collections.

  • @petahawk
    @petahawk Жыл бұрын

    Such a great episode! Really enjoyed all the detailed talk about specific CDs and their remasters.

  • @davide.s.9880
    @davide.s.988010 ай бұрын

    I'm sure I said this before. But you can pay and pay for a streaming service and tomorrow they can go dark and all that money you gave them is gone. But when I give them all that money when I buy CD's . The store can close and I still have every CD I bought for ever. I did this / I do this. When I bought a vinyl album now a CD. I play the physical album twice once when I get it home then I would listen again when I would copy the vinyl LP I recorded it to a cassette. But now with CD's I listen to them first then again when I rip to a hard drive. But I still have the album if I want to play the physical album / CD or there's a new sound format and I need to re-rip I can just take them off the shelf. I also I don't need music every were I go but with me ripping everything I can have a good chunk. Other wise I can just wait till I get home. I won't fall apart if I can't listen to some bull shit song from these talentless popular acts.

  • @Chanobi
    @Chanobi Жыл бұрын

    As a Japanese Tea Ceremony practitioner and audiophile, I can really relate to your explanation of why you love playing CDs. If only CD transport/player designers could learn a little from tea ceremony. There is nothing zen about a cheap plastic tray, slot loaders or very light lids that slam shut. One reason why the EVO CD and the Pro-ject CD Box RS2 T might sound the same is that they are using the same mechanism from the same company but just that one is the tray version and the other is the top loader.

  • @Yetaxa
    @Yetaxa11 ай бұрын

    Physical media is great as a storage medium. But with all of them I rip them in high quality and organise them digitally. All the benefits of CD with none of the awkward downsides

  • @fhaquuu
    @fhaquuu Жыл бұрын

    I will go on record to say that I’m simple happy to see companies continuing to put out CD players and still innovating in regards to CDs. I truly believe Cds will slowly go through a growth or rebirth period over the next decade.

  • @sinisacatic
    @sinisacatic Жыл бұрын

    My SONY BDP-CX7000ES Blu-Ray charger with the capacity of 400 disks from 2010, is capable of retrieving CD, DVD & Blu-Ray disk info from the Internet and then saving it. The info can be displayed as a text or through GUI via HDMI output and then used to initiate disc play. I repeat, this is from 2010 and has capacity of 400 discs. Take that Cambridge Audio!

  • @paulgusztak4177
    @paulgusztak41779 ай бұрын

    I've gone back to CD's because I can buy a used disc for less than a lossless digital download. I can't get behind the idea of renting music. Also, the ability to find the original mastering is huge for me. 99% of the time, remasters sound worse.

  • @AmyRose-1gv7ej2j

    @AmyRose-1gv7ej2j

    8 ай бұрын

    Sony wins on cds

  • @10sassafras
    @10sassafras Жыл бұрын

    So this is simply a “proprietary” co-ax connection with an amp that finds the album cover you are holding in your hand. I can see why they sell it but I can’t see why anyone would buy it.

  • @KimmoJaskari

    @KimmoJaskari

    Жыл бұрын

    It also negates the privacy argument. The amp almost certainly hits up the Internet and gets the info from some CD database.

  • @glennaa11

    @glennaa11

    Жыл бұрын

    especially for 1200

  • @AdamSWL

    @AdamSWL

    Жыл бұрын

    And after the premature death of my Cambridge Audio DAC Magic (which I loved), I have serious concerns as to the longevity and reliability of CA products.

  • @tubinonyou

    @tubinonyou

    Жыл бұрын

    I was just going to ask if another CD player could function with the DAC? Is that for sure a proprietary connector?

  • @mcmolony
    @mcmolony Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for taking the time to discuss CDs, CD/record stores, and CD players. Over the years you’ve inspired me to reinvest in the format, and I have really enjoyed the journey. I have been able to buy a lot more music because of the vast price difference between CDs and records in today’s new and used market. My town, Knoxville, Tenn, has many great little music shops that are practically tripping over CDs. I bought a Marantz Model 30 and 30n combo over a year ago, and CDs sound better than I ever remember as a kid. I think this Cambridge combo would be just as lovely for somebody looking for a fairly complete 2-box matching system like my Marantz. Cheers.

  • @robertocastro4403
    @robertocastro4403 Жыл бұрын

    Streaming sucks. Long life to the CD!

  • @adolphhernandez7615
    @adolphhernandez7615 Жыл бұрын

    I've bought more CDs in the last five years than i have in my entire life. The most I've paid is $4.00 each. Vinyl prices have become unrealistic, its put on such a strain on my wallet that i have had to give up.

  • @dexon555
    @dexon555 Жыл бұрын

    The CD is best physical music format period.

  • @spiralmovement
    @spiralmovement7 ай бұрын

    Cool video and new info about equipment

  • @CinematicLaboratory
    @CinematicLaboratory Жыл бұрын

    Trying to find old masters is exactly why I am back with playing CD's.

  • @pedge66
    @pedge66 Жыл бұрын

    Sorry John, this fails on what I want from a CD player/transport It needs to be connected to the internet so you’re stuck if it goes down, plus you lose that privacy you mentioned when it downloads the album art and data Whoopie do it displays the album art on a tiny screen 8ft away when I have that in my hand from when I took the disc from the case to play it Totally agree with you on the advantages of cd though and how the mix is really the most important part of a music presentation

  • @ChiefExecutiveOrbiter
    @ChiefExecutiveOrbiter5 ай бұрын

    You had me at: Orbital, Cambridge lost me at: proprietary connection.

  • @hm_09865
    @hm_0986511 ай бұрын

    Any conversation about CDs is a good one. Own the code!

  • @mikeb4938
    @mikeb4938 Жыл бұрын

    About loading a CD (from my memory): “I don’t know why I enjoy this but I know that I do enjoy it.” That is my exact feeling, I just enjoy loading a CD.

  • @ingarchris

    @ingarchris

    Жыл бұрын

    :^)

  • @s_r_v
    @s_r_v Жыл бұрын

    Sometimes the diff between stream and cd is only a slight diff in gain. I rip my own cd's and stream the flacs from my PC, I like the control I have over the tagging and I too prefer specific albums over what turns up on streaming services, but for me £1,200 is a crazy amount of money, just get a £50 transport and stand the cd up on your amp for the artwork 😉

  • @oliivioljy9700

    @oliivioljy9700

    Жыл бұрын

    By buying a nas drive for your home and its own hard drives, and by buying a perpetual software license called plex, it is easier to use your own flac files and, for example, drive in your own car using your apple car player that works through your phone, or wherever you want the music to play.

  • @maidsandmuses
    @maidsandmuses Жыл бұрын

    Silly idea. Stick to a stand-alone CD player for playing CDs, either with a built-in DAC or as a transport with industry standard digital connection. With the proprietary data connection this "CD player" is completely useless without a partnering Cambridge Audio EVO DAC unit. Think of it as nothing more than a proprietary non-standard external CD ROM reader for the EVO 150, and it seems quite expensive for what is is really, fancy exterior not withstanding...

  • @JonThysell
    @JonThysell9 ай бұрын

    I agree with the whole "the version of the album available on streaming, if it even exists, may be a different mastering / track list than the version I remember and want to listen to." But half the reason why I rip my own CDs to FLAC is to set the metadata to _exactly_ what I want it to be in my collection. If I ever get around to buying a dedicated CD player, I actually don't want it to give me online metadata.

  • @richardgrumbine4867
    @richardgrumbine4867 Жыл бұрын

    I really like that you are not just an audiophile but a true music lover… I am sure it would be awesome to sit with you and spin discs… I so miss doing that with my friends back in the States…

  • @Noitpure
    @Noitpure Жыл бұрын

    I have a ton of CD/vinyl that are not available on any streaming service I’m aware of. I’ve purchased CD’s since they were first available and I continue to buy them now.

  • @ccapri9357
    @ccapri9357 Жыл бұрын

    My main reasons for buying cds or vinyls, in addition to the ones you've said are: I have vinyl from my father and my grandfather (not vinyl but shellac), I refuse to leave my son a playlist. My other reason is something that happened to me the other day, I wanted to listen to a song from the 90s...I couldn't remember the artist or the title, just vaguely the cover...impossible to search on tidal, it only took me a minute to find it among my collection of old cds.

  • @ccapri9357

    @ccapri9357

    Жыл бұрын

    By the way, it's incredible how two people of different ages (I'm older than you) and born in different countries can listen to the same music, mostly electronic and now PG, James (same original editions)...I've seen my cds and vinyls at different times. long many videos of yours which makes me envy you every time you show a rare limited edition...

  • @alistairwilson5344

    @alistairwilson5344

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, a playlist isn't much of a legacy-I agree, maybe that's just a generational thing though. We grew up with hifi systems not smartphones and earbuds. Also, back in the day music was a destination now it's been reduced to wallpaper.

  • @fairmania
    @fairmania Жыл бұрын

    Another fantastic chat John, and it does look like Cambridge Audio are onto something. It would be great to see more pairings like this, where the transport just supplies the code and the streamer supplies everything else. Fingers crossed anyway!

  • @matthiasstrobl391
    @matthiasstrobl3918 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this video. I also enjoyed your video about your 15 reasons why you still buy CDs. That made me search my 11 years old CD player (Denon DCD-710AE). I connected it with an analog cable to the AUX input of my KEF LS50 Wireless II and listened to my old CDs - and guess what: I loved it. I agree totally that listening to a CD is a different feeling. It became a kind of a ritual to me and made me buy new CDs. So thank you for your contribution.

  • @Kan3sky
    @Kan3sky9 ай бұрын

    The thing that I can't bear about streaming is advertising ads. And I won't pay for this. I prefer spend my money on a CD.

  • @scrunts666
    @scrunts666Ай бұрын

    As a lifelong lover of vinyl I am happy to say that CD is the greatest format ever created.

  • @TheRealWillGeronimo
    @TheRealWillGeronimo Жыл бұрын

    CDs are and still will be king of the audio format! I love my CDs as well!

  • @ingarchris

    @ingarchris

    Жыл бұрын

    :^)

  • @elderinmoi1571
    @elderinmoi1571 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats. Nice CD finds 👍

  • @johnfricano2591
    @johnfricano2591 Жыл бұрын

    I too can't understand why this should be a closed system ONLY. I wouldn't invest in it knowing that the only way I could use it would be with the Cambridge integrated. A little more flexibility offering a digital output also that would work on a high quality DAC would make the cost a little more palatable.

  • @lights80088
    @lights800886 ай бұрын

    I love CD's, I mean really love them. Did I mention how much I love CD's. Great video as always. You create fantastic, informative videos.

  • @Nephilim-81
    @Nephilim-81 Жыл бұрын

    Love when you talk CDs, John. Always fun and educational. I’ve been dying to get that massive attack boxset. You scored big time. ❤

  • @ChristianSamsel
    @ChristianSamsel11 ай бұрын

    The system makes sense, but not for the price, when all it does is being a USB CD drive.

  • @me_fault

    @me_fault

    11 ай бұрын

    but it has an umbilical cord!

  • @petervdveenmuis
    @petervdveenmuis7 ай бұрын

    CD is here to stay!!

  • @johnsimpson8187
    @johnsimpson8187 Жыл бұрын

    Regarding your comments about comparing older version of recordings to newer remastered versions, I agree that the differences can be significant. I am so happy that I have the older versions on CD to listen to.

  • @javierjones
    @javierjones Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Great cd player. And thank you for reaffirming my love for my cd collection. Physical media will never die for some of us.

  • @michaeloconnor9465
    @michaeloconnor94657 ай бұрын

    I refuse to pay money each month when I can buy 3 or 4 second hand cds for the money. Also the streaming services don't have the tracks you want go listen to. Finding tracks is clunky and frustrating.

  • @metalbearuk
    @metalbearuk11 ай бұрын

    Just had a look at the Evo CD player. For that price I'd want universal disc support including SACD and Blu Ray Audio. I'll stick with my Oppo.

  • @thesmithselvis
    @thesmithselvis Жыл бұрын

    Seems Cambridge really did their market research. The EVO CD really works brilliantly with the EVO 150.

  • @bluelines1792

    @bluelines1792

    Жыл бұрын

    Skip

  • @brin57

    @brin57

    10 ай бұрын

    The only research they did was how to make the max profit from the min outlay !

  • @SaverMtz
    @SaverMtz Жыл бұрын

    This is the reason why I still use my CDs… the moment requires preparation and the experience of listening them is in another level than just streaming 14:38

  • @williamkaratsanov-rhodes8792
    @williamkaratsanov-rhodes8792 Жыл бұрын

    Superb review John, your love of listening and playing music shines through. Oh, by the way, awesome glasses! What are the frames?

  • @kceateva
    @kceateva Жыл бұрын

    I like the cd players have a window where you can watch the cd turn.

  • @Djoodibooti
    @Djoodibooti5 ай бұрын

    CDs can't have their licenses rovoked. CDs are goat.

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool Жыл бұрын

    Yep, I'm with you John. I love having the physical media and all that goes with that. Great job Cambridge Audio. You may have just won me over from the Naim Unity Atom.

  • @Camrographer
    @Camrographer11 ай бұрын

    I still have my CDs going all the way back to the 80's. As technology went forward I trans-coded the music to the best available MP3 at the time with consideration to the limitation of storage mediums. Now that we are entering an era where terabytes of solid state storage are available and accessible to the average consumer I think we will return to uncompressed lossless audio. I do agree that the experience of listening to music has been transformed and diluted so much that it does an injustice to the musicians. This leaves to attend a live performance to experience more immersion but a live performances is also lacks acoustic fidelity. I also think that the industry of music has vastly expanded over the four decades which I've experienced. Access to different artists was limited to Radio, MTV and word of mouth back in those days. Now we have the problem of too much choice and we've become subject to analysis paralysis. My question is why didn't DVD audio take off?

  • @phrtao
    @phrtao11 ай бұрын

    I love Cambridge Audio's HiFi products, they have always sounded really neutral and been well made. But this CD player (and to some extent the streamer) are just a complete waste of money. It does not cost €1200 to read a CD without error and put that data into a device that can then store, process or play it back ! The unit is very nice and stylish but you can do what this setup does with a laptop (you could even afford a nice Mac Book if you like), a USB cable and a Cambridge Audio DAC Magic. All of which would be a faction of the cost of this setup. A modern laptop will handle the processing and storing of your digital audio better than any streamer box, especially if you use Linux and its wonderful ALSA audio system.

  • @leemartin2978
    @leemartin2978 Жыл бұрын

    When this was first announced I thought it might be an option to replace my ageing Marantz CD 12a transport , the drawer of which had failed. The idea that I use it as a modern transport into my still great sounding cd12a dac. As you’ve now explained, it can’t be used with an existing dac, in that there’s no “conventional “ digital out ie coax or toslink. If I’ve understood it correctly, they’ve limited the sales of this cd player to owners of the matching Cambridge amp , as that’s all it’s compatible with ?. Good result in the end, I managed to find someone to service my transport, so a new set of belts and a good helping of skill and experience managed to get it going again. Love the channel , try to never miss an episode 👍

  • @Valkyriel246
    @Valkyriel24611 ай бұрын

    I get what you are talking about so much! I cannot locate the version I love of my favorite songs on all streaming platforms. Especially my foreign music. It doesn't sound the same when I do actually find it. It just sounds more muddled or less dynamic. Like during the transfer they leveled out the highs and lows. Rarely do I find a great remaster that actually sounds better.

  • @timsamhill5032
    @timsamhill5032 Жыл бұрын

    Hi John, thanks for the great vid - couldn't agree more, this is a clever piece. The joy in this hobby is all about niches and how products fit into our music lives after all......However, for the sake of accuracy, one must point out that if the sun sets at 7.15, the difference between 7 and 7.30 can indeed be night and day. Big love.

  • @markmattimore592
    @markmattimore592 Жыл бұрын

    I too am becoming frustrated with the proliferation of "remastered" albums on streaming services. It's epidemic across a lot of different genres: vintage electronica, '80s post-punk, '90s alternative... even classic rock. And I agree that some of the songs sound okay individually, but in aggregate the entire album loses something. It's not the way I remember it sounding and thus changes the listening experience.

  • @JezJerzy22
    @JezJerzy22 Жыл бұрын

    CD still rulez :) If you have CD - you have your music almost FOREVER (my 30years old CDs still working fine even with some scratches). With streaming - today you have music, next day - all your favorite collection may disappear (for example problems with copyrights, or simply music author will request to remove some albums).

  • @andrewlittleboy8532

    @andrewlittleboy8532

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree, nine of my cd's have ever failed on me. Even cd-rs from over 20 years ago still are perfect as long as they’re looked after

  • @VinchVolt
    @VinchVolt9 ай бұрын

    Seconding the good word on Peter Gabriel's Security; I've got the Geffen target CD, which carries over the master from the original Charisma disc, and the mastering on it is godlike. You can tell that Peter Gabriel was genuinely enthusiastic about digital recording and sought to make the most of it, because it totally eschews the stereotype of '80s digital recordings sounding overly thin. The mixing on it makes great use of highs and lows (the bass on "San Jacinto" and "Shock the Monkey" in particular will dig into your bones), and it's so rich with detail that it's downright hypnotic. It's probably one of the best-sounding "full digital recording" albums I've ever head.

  • @thomasfowler196
    @thomasfowler19611 ай бұрын

    ¢1200 for transport only is toppy.

  • @Downhuman74
    @Downhuman745 ай бұрын

    That's a beautiful piece of kit, no doubt. But at 1200 dollars? Lord, no. I'll stick to streaming my CD's ripped to FLAC over Plex on my Shield TV. Much cheaper and I get to see the high-res cover art on my huge television screen. CD transports were an interesting idea until realized that any Blu-ray player does the exact same thing for way cheaper. But.....but....you're spot on about the "ceremony" of putting an actual CD into a player. It's nice to have that.

  • @mitschiewaldmann9450
    @mitschiewaldmann9450 Жыл бұрын

    At first I found the concept appealing. But at a second glance I feel that this CD-player isn‘t a good idea at all because you‘ll need to buy the amp too because without it the player does not seem to work. So if for some reason the EVO amp breaks down or the company decides that they won‘t provide repairs for it anymore in the future your out of luck and are stuck with a cd-player sized brick. That’s why I prefer the versatility of my techniques CD-player that works with a variety of different amps.

  • @stephenduffy1881
    @stephenduffy1881 Жыл бұрын

    One gripe about this and many CD palyers, the open/close button sits below the CD tray, an annoying placement esoecially at night. Putting the button above the tray would much more ergonimic if that still is a concept we can use in 2013.

  • @lights80088
    @lights800887 ай бұрын

    I love my CD's, always will, you can keep streaming.

  • @MrRourk
    @MrRourk Жыл бұрын

    CD are coming back

  • @GrandTheftWatto
    @GrandTheftWatto9 ай бұрын

    so we are to believe that the DAC in the EVO 150 produces a different sound when processing the ripped CD from a local server and when streaming the same bits from the CD itself via the EVO CD? that doesn't make any sense. at any rate, great video - these look like really nice components!

  • @highland-oldgit

    @highland-oldgit

    9 ай бұрын

    Indeed. I would like someone to explain how that can be possible.

  • @munkienl1
    @munkienl111 ай бұрын

    I was in a music shop this week, i heard a couple of young girls say, i don't have a CDP... Nice to have track info and cover on display but there goes your privacy. Good point about compressed remasters but IMHO the " loudness wars" in popular music started in the early 1990s. I ordered a CD cleaning set recently, a bottle of fluid which you can spray onto your CD and two cloths to wipe it off again. Does a good job, i -think- i can hear a difference. Playing a CD is an optical process so it's important your CD is clean.

  • @festerfeet7302
    @festerfeet7302 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, the Cambridge isn’t for me but I get and appreciate the idea of a physical piece of media and all that comes with it. The deliberate action of searching for a cd in a shop, the physicality of unpacking and loading, the anticipation of playing something one has been waiting for and the ‘ceremony’ of loading and enjoying the music feels more special. We are lucky to live in an age of streaming, the unbelievable access to such enormous collections of music but it just doesn’t seem as indulgent and satisfying as physical media.

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