I'm a spanish native speaker and I consider my english level high enough to get to understand your videos but sometimes I have pause the video up and read each word of the CC. I love watching your videos because I have a crush on languages too and I'm learning french and portuguese since I like them very much. Your videos help me to improve my english every day. Thanks a lot and greetings from Colombia.

@zero_anaphora

3 жыл бұрын

Tell us how NativLang's spanish pronunciations are ;-)

@designate_om

3 жыл бұрын

​@@zero_anaphora not that guy but, while my first language was brazilian portuguese, i speak a good bit of spanish and can at least say that his pronunciation is very good. certainly better than a lot of americans i've heard (i live in los angeles, a few of my friends are pretty much fluent in spanish but most of them pronounce everything with rhotic 'r's and/or the hard english 't')

@TDG361

3 жыл бұрын

@@zero_anaphora He speaks it very well, actually. Cheers from Mexico

@theanon5906

3 жыл бұрын

Keep going :)

@J11_boohoo

3 жыл бұрын

I've got to be honest, though I find nativlang's videos great, I find them quite unorganised he puts in information in the middle of a sentence that we don't necessarily know, or an entire sentence about things that aren't thoroughly explained so it can get a bit wobbly but I do still love the way he makes videos but I see issues with them

I think we have a MAJOR MOMENT IN THE HISTORY OF WRITING on our hands here

@broccoliflorette1970

3 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know who that narrator is? And why we haven't heard her since?

@xmvziron

3 жыл бұрын

@@broccoliflorette1970 as far as I know she's Josh's (Nativlang's) sister.

3 жыл бұрын

@@xmvziron for a second I read girlfriend xD

@amehak1922

3 жыл бұрын

Wish she could do audio books.

@conlangknow8787

3 жыл бұрын

Yeas

2:14 One takes the pronunciation of other languages for granted, but that shift in English accent for "Oxford" took me off guard.

@kacperwoch4368

3 жыл бұрын

Shifting accents within one sentence is surprisingly difficult.

@wachamcaulit

3 жыл бұрын

Kacper Włoch as a Filipino, it is not really hard

@odysseus231

3 жыл бұрын

It was rather overdone for a British accent, but that's what made it unexpected and very funny (at least I thought so)

@andrewdunbar828

3 жыл бұрын

Just wait till he starts pronouncing every word in every sentence according to whether it came from Latin, Greek, Norman French, or Anglo Saxon (-:

@moondust2365

3 жыл бұрын

@@wachamcaulit True. At least, as a Filipino. Being bi-, tri-, or quadri- lingual and mixing languages via code-switching really helps with that.

So many beautiful glyphs!

@lime2333

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Nativlang! Thanks for making great vids!

@mrcastillo4240

3 жыл бұрын

Hi I l love your videos and channel. I wanted to ask if you can make a video about the linguistics aspect of the maya culture in Honduras, please

@NativLang

3 жыл бұрын

@@lime2333 And thank you for watching them!

@theguy4429

3 жыл бұрын

The oldest writing in America was the writing of mayonnaise

@lime2333

3 жыл бұрын

NativLang omg omg omg omg you replied! Thanks sooo much!

That is really neat, Mesoamerica still has a lot of history waiting to be told.

@nicolemartelli9033

3 жыл бұрын

​@Prometheus311 Mesoamerica is archaeology on easy mode because of the the prevalence of stone _and_ writing. I guess the pacific coastal deserts of south america don't biodegrade or weather away at things as much, but you need to bring lots of water for that and you gotta go out to the middle of nowhere instead of just like, rural rainforest

@purpleghost106

3 жыл бұрын

@Prometheus311 Hmm... Depending on where and in what water it could be less than we might hope because water erosion can be very fast if there's any kind of current. (Salinity and acidity contribute to break down of rock too) 100 years can smooth over a surface to the point of unrecognizability if it had glyphs and was in a river or the ocean, meaning by the time it got covered by silt it'd probably already be wrecked. Lakes are different though, plant matter mulch and silt can build up quickly and there's rarely as much of a current to dislodge it. So! There might be some really cool things buried in under the bed of lakes, that'd be really awesome if we could get at those

One of my coworkers at a past job was from Oaxaca and he actually natively spoke a Zapotec language and had learned both Spanish and English as second languages.

@XavierbTM1221

3 жыл бұрын

but i thought all amerindians died in the 16th century????

@seanbeadles7421

3 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Miranda nah, plenty are around just in hugely reduced numbers and their cultures are all changed forever. But people speak all sorts of Native American languages across the hemisphere.

@vatolocosforever803

3 жыл бұрын

@@XavierbTM1221 There's a whole lot of them there. It's about 27% and growing cuz no one's trying to kill them anymore

@vatolocosforever803

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanbeadles7421 There's a lot of them out there that keep their same culture..

@carlosmarte428

3 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Miranda That’s only really true for the Spanish Caribbean. North, Central, and South America still have notable Amerindian populations.

This guy pronounces Spanish and mexican names absolutely PERFECT. I have never heard a gringo talk like that. MASSIVE RESPECT SIR!

@andrewdunbar828

3 жыл бұрын

He pronounces them better than any tourist from Spain I ever met in Mexico. In fact he seems to get the Nahuatl ones spot on too.

@ShirinRose

3 жыл бұрын

I also loved the perfect Oxford accent he used to say the word "Oxford" 😛

@ASpectrethatishauntingEurope

3 жыл бұрын

It's called using the International Phonetic Alphabet properly. It's an alphabet of symbols used to map almost every sound in human language, so if you know the language, and this IPA, you can very easily figure out how to properly pronounce a word better than any attempt at imitation.

@andree1991

3 жыл бұрын

@* Who said Mexican was a language you schizo?

@villebooks

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShirinRose haha, indeed x)

Someone is talking to us from over 2000 years ago. We have to hear them out :)

@doomyboi

3 жыл бұрын

They're probably just telling us how much grain they imported that week. The grain's surely gone off by now.

@someinteresting

3 жыл бұрын

@@doomyboi Yes, the oldest written form of languages is hardly glamorous or sensational.

@Nadia1989

3 жыл бұрын

If it's _yet another_ saga of complaints about a local shady businessman, I'll-

@deacon6453

3 жыл бұрын

Doomrider Alternatively, it could be yet another pompous self-congratulating inscription by some ancient king of some sort. Think Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, etc.

@kamilbiedron6125

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's the pineapple mystery from "How I Met Your Mother".

“Is that a pineapple?”

@korngotmuted1112

3 жыл бұрын

well *is it??*

@mrcastillo4240

3 жыл бұрын

The million dollar question. Is that a pineapple?

@sbevebren1642

3 жыл бұрын

No its patrick

@Nilguiri

3 жыл бұрын

It certainly looks like it. There are quite a few of them. There are also quite a few maize cobs.

@semaj_5022

3 жыл бұрын

I still need to know

Mexican here. Your pronunciation on spanish/prehispanic words is pretty natural, I never expect english speakers to be so fluent on spanish words when speaking english, specially with words of indigenous origin. You clearly know what you're talking about, loved your video

NativLang Thank you so much for this video. As a kid I was always made fun of for my love of history and language. Your channel has helped me realize that so many others have the same interests. Thank you.

@celebres4672

2 жыл бұрын

Sey Mi Gutang We Tandro Gutang We Tandro

The writing on the the light blue Maya cup says " Best dad in the world "

@BeckVMH

3 жыл бұрын

Haha very clever... and could even be accurate. You deserve more likes!

Mesoamerican cultures are soo fascinating

I've deciphered it. It reads "We've been trying to reach you about your car's extended waranty"

I'm mexican and I'm always so sad when learning about all these things. So much destruction, so much was lost, and yet people still defend it

@jibaritomx

3 жыл бұрын

Still repeating that was a conquest, is not it was an *invasion* , still and will be an invasion no one is fighting to change the history books in mexico to an invasion..

@BurnBird1

3 жыл бұрын

@@jibaritomx What's wrong with conquest? (as in the use of the word, as opposed to invasion) It means essentially the same thing, with a conquest also implying that governing took place afterwards, wheras an invading force can just leave afterwards.

@Alkaloid-Odin

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree. Everywhere in the world where colonies were established, priceless artefacts, manuscripts, and relics were destroyed or shipped off and sold. What a loss...

@cometmoon4485

3 жыл бұрын

*European colonisers* : (Destroys or steals native art, literature, architecture and culture) *Also European colonisers* : "These native people have no art, literature, architecture and culture to speak of! I guess that means we must be the only civilised people on Earth!

@shannonaguilar920

3 жыл бұрын

@@BurnBird1 you are exactly right.

Damn, this guy is so obsessed with Mesoamerica. I love it!!

@sergeyrafirudov

3 жыл бұрын

he basically kickstarted my interest in Nahuatl with his video. tlazohcamati NativLangtzin, axcan ninahuatlatoa, nicmati ichalchiuh iquetzal tlaltzin Mexico :)

@gangstamack8397

Жыл бұрын

He's telling the story of my ancestors

I’m a simple man. Nativelang uploads, and I put everything on hold to watch the video.

Mexico has such an interesting history. The pyramids of Teotihuacán are so cool

@a.d.a.n.

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to go to the pyramids near Cancún last month but the pandemic cancelled my plans.

@pasofino2199

3 жыл бұрын

My grandpa climbed it and at the top he had real bad bowl movement and had to relieve himself on the pyramid of the moon. There was like 60 people up there with us, just took a big old crap up there. He always thought the ancient gods had cursed him because of that.

It never ceases to amaze me how well-researched and how attentive to detail your videos are. I find it even more special when the new video talks about the history and culture of my home country. By the way, you truly sound like a native when you do the Spanish bits.

The image at 1:49 looks to me like some kind of fever dream where a mayan scribe has to play tetris against this serpent human. Cracks me up. Great video though!

@ISO_-

3 жыл бұрын

That's the best interpretation lmao

@DerangedManiac12

3 жыл бұрын

Kukulkan likes to show off why he's held the high score for 8 b'ak'tuns

@Sandvich18

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's one of those horrifying platonic solids nightmares you have as a kid

@nakenmil

3 жыл бұрын

@@DerangedManiac12 This is a lovely joke.

@ADeeSHUPA

3 жыл бұрын

@@DerangedManiac12 uP

Do we only know of writing in Mesoamerica, or are there other, more geographically distant cultures in the Americas that we know had writing?

@connormurphy683

3 жыл бұрын

For now we do not know of any writing elsewhere in the Americas

@nakenmil

3 жыл бұрын

There is the Incan quipu, which is a series of knots on a string that denotes numbers. There is no surviving examples that could show us it has been used for words and storytelling like letters, but it's hypothetically possible. So far as we know, it was a numeric system for accounting. So "writing" in the sense of physical symbols, but in a different medium, and for numbers only.

@kokuinomusume

3 жыл бұрын

Wampum were used to record treaties or important events and could be read to give out a narration. So in a sense they were writing, too.

@walterbell7193

3 жыл бұрын

Some Mississippi cultures had metal plates stamped out with various symbols

@enternalinferno

3 жыл бұрын

The Inuits had a writing system

@NativLang , thanks for the video, I’ve been a huge fan for some time! If you are planning on going into Nahua language more, especially in terms of modern speakers, as an indigenous speaker of these languages and fellow linguist, I’d be happy to help answer any questions you might have!

@MajoraZ

29 күн бұрын

Is there a place I can contact you? I do posts on Mesoamerican history and archeology and work with a few large channels like Ancient Americas, TreytheExplainer, Emperortigerstar, Invictahistory, etc. Keep in mind though KZread tends to auto remove comments that mention or links to other social media stuff or emails, so just post a username or something I can search myself.

7:15 That's Atzompa! Yo lo visté el año pasado con un amigo arquitecto oaxaqueño y hablamos con los arqueólogos excavándolo! Fue descubierto apenas hace 5 años, y estiman que el sitio existió hace 2,800 años. Otra cosa interesante de los nahuatl es la relación de los sufijos de muchas ciudades en la región que indica un pueblo más expansivo de lo que pensamos actualmente. El uso de -tepec en México, -tepeque de Guatemala, El Salvador, y Honduras, y finalmente -tepe comunmemte usado hasta su punto más sureño, la isla de Ometepe en medio del Lago Cocibolca. Do you know anything about this correlation? Love your channel!

@XavierbTM1221

3 жыл бұрын

they were the first illegal immigrants in the continent

@JosePineda-cy6om

3 жыл бұрын

Beware: The overabundance of placenames in Nahuatl is misleading as to the actual region where Nahuatl was spoken. When the Aztecs (as the video says, it's more proper to call them "the Mexica component of the Triple Alliance") conquered Central Mexico, they went around asking locals the name of their towns/villages/cities, then asked the translators the meaning of these names... and then recorded these names in their maps, in Nahuatl rather than in the original. Caveat: Mexica maps have the south on the left and north on the right, should you ever see a codex featuring one. I should know about this: my family comes from Oaxaca, there are some towns that have an "official" name which is the one that appears in the maps and legal documents, and this legal one is usually either a Nahuatl or a Spanish name... and then ANOTHER name in the local language (either Mixe, Mixtec or Zapotec) which is the name by which the locals refer to the place. And, guess what, 100% of the times the meaning of the Nahua name is either the literal translation of the local name (i.e. the original) or something very close. The process continued during colonial times: the Tlaxcaltecs would march alongside the Spanish conquistadors, explore for them and translate when possible, so for example the region of Guatemala received a Nahua name (Cuauhtemallan) because it's a translation into Nahuatl of the Mayan name for the region. Nahuatl in Central America was spoken natively only in today's El Salvador, the southern-most tip of Guatemala and, of course, parts of Nicaragua - the rest of the region was Maya speaking. Yet the Spanish registered the names of thousands of villages in the region not in their original Mayan names but in the Nahuatl translation provided by their Tlaxcallan allies.

@thegoodfight4874

3 жыл бұрын

@@JosePineda-cy6om Thank you so much for clearing that up! The first time I had even heard of Nahua was in Nicaragua, when they referred to their ancestors as Nahuatl. As I continued through the region, having lived in Nicaragua and Guatemala and traveled to neighboring countries numerous times, I would visit ruins, learn about indigenous pre-Colombian languages, and take note of those languages' impact on local dialects of Spanish. Speaking of Oaxaca, it is where I found some of the most interesting linguistic variations like Mixteco and what I was told were 23 dialects of Mixe that varied from town to town as a result of the isolation atop the different mountain peaks, and some fun legends like el Rey de Condoy and el Colibrí de Tontontepec. Anyway, thank you for helping clear that up. I always wondered where that link came from as the variation in the suffix changed so slightly from region to region that I often wondered how it occurred. I also knew that the Aztecs spread their empire south well before the arrival of the Spanish as the main temples at Tikal in Guatemala were actually for an Aztec king during the Post-classical period of Mayan history.

As a mexican I'm so glad every time I see my country in your videos and the interest people have in all the civilizations that exist and existed here

Few months ago I requested a video only about writing systems. I had to wait for it, but it definitely worth it :D

I hope to see these in the Unicode Standard!

so many lives and so much knowledge has been lost to colonization, destroyed purposefully in the path to conquest. it's so good to hear people finding new pieces to reassemble some of that history and tradition. thank you for spotlighting this

I love the speakers' easy movement into different beautiful accents. Looking for more with this narrator! So enjoyable. Edited to add: I just looked at the playlist for NativLang.....holy cow! Just found my new happy place!

This is a fantastic overview! Always love to see you cover American writing systems!

Great video! And I'm always amazed by your pronunciation. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!

This channel is so good! I love your animation and content, it’s so fun coming around.

Its pretty sad how many written artifacts have been lost to war

@KnzoVortex

3 жыл бұрын

So much knowledge as well. So sad that any forward movements in math or science made in the Americas have been destroyed so that people think they never existed.

@KnzoVortex

3 жыл бұрын

@owatahfuhlyem At least we learned about the Maya, Aztec and Incas in my middle school curriculum (I am currently in high school now) My sister didn't learn a single thing about the societies of the Americas! But yeah, this stuff is quite unfortunate. Being American, it should be of much higher priority that we learn the true history of the land we are living on.

@RobinTheBot

3 жыл бұрын

Not war, ethnic extermination. The war ended quickly, it was the decades of spanish religious rule (and the related efforts to destroy all evidence of culture) that did it. We don't get to talk about our ancestors forming racist borderline slave empires, systematically executing all leaders, destroying all culture, and then still call it something as neat as war. You need to know this, because the people who were almost exterminated also remember, and if you want their wisdom you need to understand what you're asking.

@KnzoVortex

3 жыл бұрын

@@RobinTheBot This is a little uclear. By our ancestors do you mean the Spanish or Native Americans?

@RobinTheBot

3 жыл бұрын

@@KnzoVortex The Spanish, and europe in general. The spanish were uniquely thorough but not unique. Afaik the native peoples didn't carry out extermination the way the spanish did, unless you count cultural obliteration by slavery.

It's not some old writings in Mesoamerica, it's a Major moments in the history of writing

One thing that excites me about this region though is how little we have scratched the surface in unearthing the vast(in land area and in time) history of the Americas. Seeing the LiDAR images of huge ancient city structures buried beneath the jungle canopy makes you wonder what else is buried with them.

This is a fantastic video. Really well done, sir. I sat rapt for the duration.

facinating video. Thank you for your hard work researching such an interesting subject.

Thank you! This is amazing news and your videos offer excellent information.

Excellent video. Thank you for all your hard work, you do great work

I love watching your videos! You present the information in a way that’s very interesting and easy to understand.

Very interesting and informative video. I hope you post sequels to this excellent video.

I love your videos. They're interesting, fascinating and very well made. But, when the video reaches its peak, it ends. I would love if your videos were like an hour long! Please keep doing what you're doing! Thank you.

Beautiful illumination of the evidence, thank you so much for your video!

Superb as always. I found this one really interesting.

Nice work mate, enjoy your channel very much🖖🏼

Also, please make a video about vowel harmony 'cause I want to understand it or maybe 1 about the native languages of Africa

@gabor6259

3 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vowel_harmony My language, Hungarian, also has vowel harmony. Both NativLang and Langfocus did a video on Hungarian, if you're interested. Langfocus also has a video about Swahili, a native language of Africa.

@manosbaroulakis9446

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bruh

@ceruchi2084

3 жыл бұрын

I hope he does one about noun classes in some African languages!

Fantastic! Fascinating and informative! Thank you!

i did not know about many of these. thank you for this visually educational video

8:31 is no gonna talk about how that one glyph looks like a earth globe ?

@franchufranchu119

3 жыл бұрын

It can also be a partial solar eclipse

@odanilooliveira

3 жыл бұрын

I think this is Egyptian

@franchufranchu119

3 жыл бұрын

@@odanilooliveira yea

@1stAmbientGrl

3 жыл бұрын

Def does! How can that be an eclipse when it has a base and an axis going through it?

@ADeeSHUPA

3 жыл бұрын

@@odanilooliveira uP

Thank you for making content about the new world. In ten years, new discoveries will probably illuminate much more than we know now. It's an exciting time! 😊😊

Could you do a video on the uto aztecan language family. Mainly the takic branch

@mr.osamabingaming2633

3 жыл бұрын

YES!!!

OMG, I was missing your videos!

It is good to see that in your sources are citing both, texts in Spanish and English! It would be great if you continued like this, with updated content!

Great video, as always. how about a video about the Pedra do Ingá in Paraíba, Brazil?

Thanks for sharing. Good and informative video.

Fascinating, as always.

Tu pronunciación de los nombres en español es estupenda. Gran video, como siempre.

Love these! :) I hope we end up deciphering these glyphs in our lifetime, they seem quite interesting.

this is super nerdy 🤓 and fascinating. thanks for making it. 😍

Good video! I did some work on scripts in the americas a while a go. Incan qhuipus are a very contentious but interesting example of a potential way of transferring information. Some have even argued it could function as a script!

really interesting! I still feel like there's a weird taboo in America with archeology when it comes to "for how long people have been living in America" but it's nice to see we have many examples in this area!

@diegolopez000

3 жыл бұрын

We always learn the “occident” view of things, why do you think there is this orient vs occident fight, because if you ask an Arab or Chinese he’ll tell you some stories of America and we’ll call it bullshit

OMG, it is always so nice when you talk about native languages of Americas. Greetings from Mexico!

This is amazing! Still, as far as I know, only the Maya script has been identified as a true writing system, while the rest of the Mesoamerican scripts are considered to be proto-writing. But that's just what I was taught, maybe new information has been found concerning those scripts.

@nikanashkan9456

3 жыл бұрын

Besides the Mayans, the Olmecs and the Zapotecs also had phonetic writing. The Nahuas also developed phonetic writing, but ideography and pictography were more prevalent. The Mexica and Mixtec codes are a kind of mental maps and it is a script that evolves to communicate regardless of the language that is spoken.

@torrawel

3 жыл бұрын

Somewhere above I wrote about the definition of "true writing". That is actually quite complicated, believe it or not. That being said, like the Maya (and like Nikan Ashkan wrote 4 days ago), the Zapotecs & (epi)-Olmecs (= Isthmian) had a system that really looked like the Maya and that we know functioned more or less the same. The same goes for the script of Kaminaljuyu. Aztec & Mixtec writing were different (indeed more pictographic), but definitely not "proto-writing". It seems clear now that they directly descend from the Teotihuacan writing system (itself only "recognized" in 2000). The Aztec phonetic system was only "discovered" in 2008 (the guys name, Lacadena, briefly made it into the video). At university (in the 2000s) I was taught by 2 of the leading experts on the Mixtec script. It clearly has phonetics as well. And most scholars studying writing systems agree that if the system at hand has phonetic elements, it qualifies as "true writing".

@Isumaeru4Cheshire

3 жыл бұрын

@@torrawel Wow! I wasn't aware of this, thank you so much! I was taught that Mixtec and Aztec writing weren't phonetic and that they were mostly a mnemonic system in which the pictographs served only as visual aid for an oral recitation. Do you know any books or articles where I can consult this information? And, again, thank you very much!

@torrawel

3 жыл бұрын

@@Isumaeru4Cheshire Hi, here is the Lacadena article (quite technical though): www.mesoweb.com/pari/journal/archive/PARI0804.pdf & Zender's introduction: www.academia.edu/8311625/An_Introduction_to_Nahuatl_Hieroglyphic_Writing. About the Mixtecs, just look for Gabina Aurora Pérez Jiménez (Mixtec herself) and her husband Maarten Jansen. For Teotihuacan, look for Karl Taube (for example: Teotihuacan and the Development of Writing in Early Classic Central Mexico). Even more recent work is being done the Danes Jesper Nielsen & Christophe Helmke (see for example their fantastic 2014 articles in the Polish "Contributions In New World Archaeology" journal ("If Mountains could speak" & "House of the Serpent Mat, House of Fire: The names of buildings in Teotihuacan writing"). The funny thing is that we finally know that Teotihuacan had a writing system, but that we still don't know the language. We are desperately seeking a Rosetta Stone!! :)

@inari7637

11 ай бұрын

Todas las maromas que dan para no reconocer las escrituras mesoamericanas como escrituras. En fin, el video no comete ese error etnocéntrico, y eso es muy refrescante en una red social donde predomina el sesgo occidental en la historia.

Great video once again NativLang! The quest for the early origins of Mesoamerican writing is indeed a thrilling and puzzling one. The discoveries made of over the past few decades increasingly push the origins of writing back further back in time. But one should not only take the dating of the artifacts in mind, but also the appearance and structure of the glyphs themselves. For example, the earliest forms of cuneiform can be traced back to a proto-script - tags and tokens that depict animals and other goods, simply for identification and accounting - before developing in a hieroglyphic script and eventuelly the wedge-shaped signs that gave cuneiform its name. Similarly, Chinese writing can be traced back to the early Oracle Bone symbols. While still largely undeciphered, some glyphs are definitely recognisable as precursors to later and even modern Chinese characters. In Mesoamerica however, we lack such a clear line of development from the simple (i.e. proto-writing) to the complex. Take for example the earliest Maya writing thus far found, the small painted glyphs inside a Preclassic pyramid in San Bartolo. They date to about 300 BCE, but the glyphs constitute an already (fully) developed script. Similarly, the earliest Zapotec writing comes from around 600 BCE and is made up of two glyphs (the San Jose Mogote monument). Yet just a few centuries later, more elaborate inscriptions appear at Monte Alban, the new regional capital founded around 500 BCE. With the Cascajal block, we finally may have found the "proto-script" or precursor to the development of later scripts, assuming(!) that it indeed functions as a precursor. With so many different scripts and cultures close together, it is hard to pinpoint who influenced who. Still o much to debate and discover.

Neat animation video! Thanks for uploading!

Yess I’m finally early. Great job!!!

Your videos have really made me interested in taking up classes about language history. My husband has a masters in Asian and African religious studies and history so he knows a lot about native languages and such! Maybe he can also help! Lol

Good to see you again

Love your work and videos! I was surprised though that for this stone you did not mention that there appear to be some repeating patterns with some of the symbols, which could give more weight to it being a writing system. For example, the "pineapple" and blunted "pineapple" glyphs follow a two-lipped plant glyph more than once. And the upside down "pinapple" gylph follows a "corn" glyph twice as well. There are probably even some other examples.

Great video! Love it👍

Ooh! I studied about those for our AP ( _Araling Panlipunan_ [Social Studies] ) Class. Well, _some_ of them. We were rushing lessons so the class was divided into groups and my group was tasked by making a brochure about Ancient/Classical Mesoamerica. I even "vectorized" the Zapotec writing. I didn't have time to make the entire picture from Wikipedia into a clear vector tho. The picture's still saved as a PNG file on my laptop just in case I decide to vectorize the whole thing on either PowerPoint or Inkscape.

this may sound dumb and self-centric, I just wanted to thank you because you are one of the youtube channels that made me decide I want to be an archeologist. I start college next year, your content is amazing, thank you so much

*ears perk up at the name Whittaker* I had to check, and indeed, it is Gordon Whittaker. The man has been on a crusade to "prove" that Sumerian is descended from Proto-Indo-European. Us Sumerologists try to ignore him, sometimes we laugh at his antics, but cannot take him serious as a scholar. I fervently hope that his work on Nahua writing is of a better quality!

Your spanish pronunciation surprises me! Saludos desde Panama City!

if you're using blender for your 3d animations, i'd recommend scaling in edit mode or applying location, rotation and scale to get rid of the stretching/squashing in your rock textures here

You have no idea how happy these videos make me😭

Some Kid: draws a pineapple in a rock Archeologists 3000 years later: "Of course, this is a religious text that says they viewed pineapples as gods"

@chicoti3

3 жыл бұрын

@Saudi King Volintine Ander of Arabia I know Onfim, that's a cool kid.

@lcmiracle

3 жыл бұрын

@Saudi King Volintine Ander of Arabia yeah but he also wrote letters and shit. Scholars had no trouble figuring out which parts were writings and which parts was doodling. And we had zero trouble figuring out cave wall paintings are not writings, and nobody is saying drawings of a buffalo being killed is a religious depiction.

@Elora445

3 жыл бұрын

@@lcmiracle "nobody is saying drawings of a buffalo being killed is a religious depiction". Um... Have you ever met an archaeologist? No, but seriously, so many immediately jump to "it's religious" for pretty much anything. Including cave paintings. (Source: I've been studying archaeology.)

@lcmiracle

3 жыл бұрын

@@Elora445 My research consists of reading published, peer-reviewed scholarly researches into pre-historic anthropological works of art, which only shows there exist a school of thought that argues prehistoric art is a process by which humans discovered the link between symbols and ideas. It's argued that images developed into written languages, as can be seen from hierographic pictograms, is a sign that human developed the ability to associate abstract forms to complex concepts. Similarly, any links to religion argues from the point that these abstract arts might have given raise to religion by enabling/assisting/as a result of human associating incorporeal concepts to symbolic acts, ala "Animism", not that they themselves are religious works.

@Elora445

3 жыл бұрын

@@lcmiracle Well, you're not wrong, since there are all types of archaeologists. Some truly great ones, too. Very interesting reply, by the way. :) I just know what my teachers have said and what we have read have said. Let's just say, that some archaeologists are all to eager to list anything as religious in some way. Which just makes me shake my head at them, but some people, man... Maybe I'm still annoyed at a certain Swedish archaeologist whose book I read and whose interpretations were way out there. Sometimes a picture is just a picture and a stone a stone, y'know? Some people tend to go way overboard in their interpretations of certain finds. Understandable, but a bit sad. (One example not at all connected to this was about some prehistoric footprints - which some archaeologists tend to describe as "a man and a boy", when we have no idea what sexes those making the footprints were.)

Great work

mesoamerican scholar here. Great job! (a bit late though, since the Cascajal block was found in the late 90s and first formaly published about in 2006). I really liked your Maya, San Bartolo, update. Now let me see if there are some questions in the other comments that I can answer..

Let me give you a little advice: if you mark chapters in description only by start, KZread will provide your video with automatic bookmarks. And thank you for great channel!

Awwww yeahhh Mesoamerican content is my drug

I've recently been reading a classic called 'The Maya' by Michael D. Coe, I'd really recommend it to anyone wanting to the Early to Classic Mesoamerican Civilizations.

Did the Inuktitut writing system form by itself or did outsiders create it for them? Curious

@marsgal42

3 жыл бұрын

Outsiders who were inspired by (mainly) Devanagari. The phonology of Inuktitut lends itself to an abugida rather than an alphabet. Tom Scott did a good video on this, albeit with a near-unsearchable title. :-)

This is non-relavent to this video, but could you do a conlang video or multiple ones? It popped up on my KZread feed couple days ago and now I'm interested!

Wonderful video! I wonder how one gets involved in the archaeology of ancient writing or linguistic anthropology.

the glyphs on that stone remind me a bit of the carvings on the "Ingá Stone"/"Pedra do Ingá" in Paraíba, Brazil - a similarly debatable chunk of carvings that may or may not be writing. granted, it's more likely to be artistic representations of flora/fauna/constellations/other unidentified symbols than actual writing. (note: there are unfortunately a lot of pseudoscientific theories - 'archaeoastronomy'/ancient-aliens shenanigans - as to the origins of the stone, but ignoring all that it's still an intriguingly mysterious pre-columbian artifact)

@JosePineda-cy6om

3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense, most likely writing (in Mesoamerica at least) started precisely as artistic depictions of flora/fauna/deities that latter got expanded to include more stuff and be able to represent speech rather than just abstract ideas...

I like it. Careful, and puts things in context.

Last time I was this early, Mayan writings were contemporary

@albinakemet2728

3 жыл бұрын

Not early.

I didn't expect this but I love it!

First of all that Spanish pronunciation was flawless

@JosePineda-cy6om

3 жыл бұрын

Not just Spanish. It amazes me that whenever he reads Japanese, Russian or even Nahuatl his pronunciation is flawless!!

Lovely, beautiful glyphs

Great video.

Thinking about complex or interesting sprachbunds I would love to see a video or several on the Balkan sprachbund (both ancient historical [i.e. pre-slavic] and more modern [i.e. post slavic and magyar arrival]). Additionally a video on the various "Romanian Languages" (Daco-Romanian, Aromanian, Istro-Romanian, etc.) and their history. Or perhaps on Dacian and its possible links to Albanian...

Me talking to literally anybody from my home country of England: "Yes, I am bilingual, yes I am smart thank you ;) " Me watching a Nativlang video listening to his narrations: "I can't believe I'm ONLY bilingual, I am so stupid D: "

@Saint_nobody

3 жыл бұрын

I only speak English and bad English.

@CarrotConsumer

3 жыл бұрын

I only speak Jazz.

@Pao234_

3 жыл бұрын

I feel exactly the same here in Chile

@moth.monster

3 жыл бұрын

I speak English and stupidity.

@sshep86

3 жыл бұрын

Considering that most children in Europe leave school being able to talk atleast 1 foreign language I don't think it is a super achievement. Although, saying that. I studied French and can just about remember how to greet someone, order some food and talk about animals. Lmao

I've been thinking on man and communication, fabric weaving, knotted string and tattoo are possible rich areas for expression of thought.

would we see some video in the future about polysynthetic languages and ergative? however i read about these topics I still can't get myself to "digest" it

More please!!!

Chiapas and Oaxaca are both such beautiful regions. The beaches, the rivers, the plants, the mountains are incredible as well as the people. Beautiful beautiful beautiful !!! 💜💚💛

I have a suggestion: how about some videos for Africa's languages? I know you already did a video on the lost African romance language, but there's a lot more to talk about. Here are some ideas: - The Ge'ez script and the languages of Ethiopia. - Tifinagh/Tamazight and the Berber languages. - The language families of Africa. - Indoeuropean African languages like Afrikaans. I'm subscribed because of your amazing videos on languages but I can't wait to see more about Africa.

Amazing!

0:02 there is a Glagolitic letter D slightly above the middle Ⰴ