£2,000 for a low-end road bike, no wonder bike sales are down. We can blame the bike industry for phasing out rim brake bikes, which allowed light weight bikes at affordable prices.

@egigstertroll3521

Жыл бұрын

trying to make money off the folks with money.

@clintonjthurman

Жыл бұрын

The first bike is not 2000, as of today it’s 4500. Not exactly bargain basement prices.

@samiktiri

Жыл бұрын

These prices are singly obscene

@ThomassEvo

Жыл бұрын

Buy direct from China

@calebniederhofer6529

11 ай бұрын

It is not a low end road bike, but the best performance and value bikes, that perform at a higher quality, performance level.

Nice…long overdue for us mortals. Please do more like this in the $1500/2500 range….👍🏻

@davidarthur

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and watch this space

First road bike I bought was a Felt F95 for £600 (2012). Took me from John O’Groats to Lands End and on countless sportives. It’s sad that the big brands don’t offer more options at a lower price, a £2,000 bill for a bike must put a lot of people off, and there’s better value to be found from companies such as Planet X and Fuji.

@gavinward3176

Жыл бұрын

I have a Planet X RDT 80, unfortunately had a lot of problems with it. Main issue resolved by replacing the front derailleur with SRAM Force but issues with the front folks (bent on delivery) with tyre rubbing. Customer service was appalling, wouldn't resolve the fork issue even with an independent assessment.

@jamesscoltock4837

Жыл бұрын

@@gavinward3176 That's unfortunate. I had a Planet-X RT-57 that was brilliant out of the box.

@fotografamos4083

Жыл бұрын

And Decathlon!

@jason200912

Жыл бұрын

I have a felt s32 right now.

@theatomic430

10 ай бұрын

You can still buy many old road bikes today.

Rose and Canyon bikes are great value…….as long as you don’t mind the 6 month to 1 year delivery time. No joke.

@touchdown081

10 ай бұрын

maybe try Cube

Just bought my 1st road bike, a mint condition Ribble fully carbon Endurance SL, 105 groupset for £550, 2nd hand! Worth 2k brand new. Now thats value. It is freaking light!

I have had my Giant TCR since 2014.. great bike.. if you keep your bike clean.. chain clean.. when i save up i upgraded wheels.. custom saddle.. have done multiple triathlons and iron.. no need for a 10k+ bike

That Rose is an alloy frame (disguised as a carbon frame) but it looks beautifully made.

Feeling really lucky with my end 2020 Canyon Ultimate CF SL 7 - rim brake (I live in the Netherlands, so all is flat), Shimano105-, then it was EUR 1699, 7.72 kg, super stoked with it! I see that now there is no rim brake version anymore and it is 2699 !

@theatomic430

8 ай бұрын

I also got in on the last of the Canyon rim brake bikes-- CF SL 8. Perfect.

@CanyonWanderer

8 ай бұрын

@@theatomic430 I still love it, last week it passed the 10000 km mark

@junrama1148

6 ай бұрын

I got mine last week. A 2017 canyon ultimate cf sl 9.0 with sram force groupset and rimbrake. Aside from the whole bike the seller gave me freebies of fizik antares saddle, canyon stem and dropbar,look pedal, carbon bottle holders and a sram force RD with short cage for 800€. Most of Todays brand new bike are so expensive thats why i go for second hand.

I’ve ridden, but not owned, a couple of Giant bikes and I’ll have to say the ride quality is impressive. I’m not getting off my old Bianchi just yet, but Giant will be my next serious consideration. Great video!

@liamblood5239

9 ай бұрын

I just got a Giant Revolt 2 for 1100 euro straight from Giant. It's a gravel bike but still wonderful on road, changing out the crosscut 2 tyres to something more road worthy would really improve it aswell but I live in Ireland and even our bike lanes have potholes. It's a lovely ride and could not recommend Giant enough to people, especially those who are starting out cycling, like myself

@user-ke6bm2kc8g

4 ай бұрын

rad

David, great vídeo, thank you for the options. Giant and Rose are my favorite, for my first road bike. Regards from Porto City, Portugal 💪🏼🇵🇹🚲

This one of your best videos. You have applied your extraordinary judgment to the ordinary world in which we live and to great practical and quality of life benefit for us all. Thank you once again, and all the best.

@davidarthur

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you!

I give you crap for not holding the manufacturers to account on their batshit prices. But, fair play, you've done a good job here of giving the masses useful info.

Bought a 2019 Giant Defy Advanced 2 with Shimano 105 gearset just before covid for a pretty good price at the time. Super happy i did, similar spec 2023 models are nearly double the price here in Canada...

Thanks for reviewing more affordable bikes that are accessible to the masses - cheers!

@davidarthur

Жыл бұрын

More to come!

@benleatherland7020

Жыл бұрын

£2000 bikes are now considered affordable are they. People are being brainwashed. That is ridiculous money for a bike.

@100drips

Жыл бұрын

​​@@benleatherland7020 true. when i spend 2000 euro on a road bike 5 years ago, i considered it to be a luxury item. and that was after many years and kilometers on a steel randoneur. i still own and ride both. disk brakes, tubeless, electronic shifting, carbon etc... you don't need all of that to have a good and fun ride.

Finally! WE like this type of videos. Affordable bikes

@davidarthur

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@courtney2835

2 ай бұрын

A bike for 2000 quids is affordable?

@jennings016

Ай бұрын

Yes bikes prices have gone up, also has car prices and pretty much everything else also.

I have that exact same TCR that was £600 more expensive in 2021. Great bike, great groupset. The wheels are ‘meh’ and the front thru axle adapter collapsed within 2 rides. The tyres - nice that it comes set up tubeless, but the tyres are heavy, and like treacle on tarmac. However- like your comments, I changed the wheels to some 50/60mm and added some F1 tyres and it’s absolutely transformed! Not much else I’d change - might add a thicker bar tape down the line. The saddle is ok as well although it creaked after a while so I’ve replaced it only due to that.

The best bike is your current bike. My 2016 Endurace still rides like a charm. Upgraded the groupset to axs.

This channel is not aimed at me. Happy for your joy of this hobby

@davidarthur

Жыл бұрын

the clue is in the name ;)

If you're not racing you don't need a fancy bike. You can get a really nice bike for less than $1,000 with Shimano Claris 8x2

Very interesting. That giant is a screaming deal in UK. Can't get close to that price in the US.

I’m in Langkawi , Malaysia, there is a nice Gusto with DI2 and calliper brakes , Taiwan carbon frame , 12500 RM or about £2200 . 👍

Rose decided to clean up the front end but route cable housing under chain stay! The frame design looks good though.

Trek Domane AL5 is another great value bike with 105 group set and good specs and good quality parts. Tires would be the only thing out of the box I’d upgrade but that’s with any of these bikes in this price range.

@mrichards55

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the first think I do when I see rubbish Tektro brakes is swap them out for 105.

@yu-chiyeh2959

Жыл бұрын

Replacing stock tires with 28c faster and lighter tires is a big improvement of my riding experience. Love my Domane AL5 despite the bike is a bit heavy at 10 kg. Probably can make the bike lighter if going for carbon wheels (guessing like 700g lighter?)

Excellent stuff sir.Very impressive.

I am going to follow you because I get some good ideas of what to buy for my cycling hobby

I recently bought the giant tcr trading my canyon and my what a difference in comfort and ride quality.Giant is by far the best value

Giant TCR advance 1 I love it !

Really interested to see what you think of budget brands like Vitus. Keep up the great work. Cheers from hot sunny Melbourne

@stanislavkindiakov6334

Жыл бұрын

Vitus is not a ‚budget‘, it is a good second tier brand with great value for money.

Great review of some excellent options - if you can find them in stock 😂. But I do believe the Rose is AL frame not CR. Still a stunning bike though.

I have been riding/racing Rose Bikes for far over 10 years, however their bikes are great value, I must add that one should avoid their carbon fibre frames. My MTB is now on it's sixth frame in 7 years time, all the frames broke down due to manufacturing issues. My racing bike is the same as I'm on my second frame after 8 years but still kinda sad to have to go back to the german shop (live in the Netherlands) to bring the bike away and pick it up a few weeks later. On the ALU bikes I only have positive experiences tho!

Dave..I truly enjoy your channel..thank you sir !!!

@davidarthur

Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome

“But you missed out [insert random name of every bike ever made here]”. Seems you can’t win. Something to keep in mind with this price point is resale value. Getting a “branded” bike often means when people buy at this level, don’t ride it much and then decide to sell, they fetch a better price back than “lesser” brands. Facebook marketplace is littered with examples of broken dreams and best intentions. Plus always buy a bike you like the look of, as if you are not a super enthusiast roadie, it’ll make you want to ride it just that little bit more! The list you have provided is an excellent start point for sure.

I'm looking forward to the Vitus bike reviews. Great brand with great value

@paultaylor8735

Жыл бұрын

I bought the same bike in just before Christmas and can’t recommend it highly enough.

Just scored a Ridley Fenix SLIC for $2400 … totally loving it!

Merida used to have some well spec'd mid range bikes even in carbon but they seem to have disappeared. but I saw an escultura 400 for £2400, which seems pretty cheap for electric assistance, with hydraulics discs and 105. Might be worth reviewing the e-road bike market. La Pierre seem to have nice ones as do giant and trek

Very useful examination.

Aluminum has a bad reputation? Never heard that. Bike companies are ripping everyone a new one. I wouldn’t spend 2000 on tiagra group set. I also don’t need batteries on a road bike, something else that breaks down. I think 105 non Di2 at 1800 reasonable. If not I’ll keep riding what I have. Rose Ultegra, mechanical groupset that sounds good.

@davidarthur

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't have a bad reputation, but it has an unfair reputation for offering a harsh ride, a hangover from the 90s and early 2000s but that just isn't the case these days imo

@gregmorrison7320

Жыл бұрын

@@davidarthur Even my early 2000's GT ZR3.0 with 28mm tires rides very comfortable with it's carbon fork, the bike it replaced an earlier GT with aluminum fork however was a hard ride.

In the land of Oz that’s Australia for you chaps.. Chinese unbranded carbon frames are very common and the quality is not that far off the brands you mentioned and in some cases the mix up of unknown brands do give better value for many especially for beginners and mid level riders. Great review as always 😊

@charleywaynehinkle6358

Жыл бұрын

Could you give me a link to a good recommendation of these bikes

I love the Giant Contend AR! Beautiful all road bike. And very capable!

I wanted an American (Wooo America!!! We rock!!!! Don't forget we saved you Brits in WW2, the big one) bike but none of the local dealers had my size and price point in stock!!! So I bought a Giant Revolt 2... It's okay, but I haven't broken past 30 miles per hour downhill yet... Trying to ride every day or other day!!!!

My ORRO Terra C 105 came to £100.00 less than the £2000 and that included pedals and mudguards and a personal bike fit. Im absolutely delighted. Although its my first bike so I have nothing to compare, what I used to cycle in 1 hour on my wife's bike I can now achieve in 45min on the ORRO and her bike is a good quality Specialised hybrid. I feel every ounce of downward pressure is converted to the drive train. Ive now cycled almost 500 miles with no issues at all.

@slipknotsoad86

Жыл бұрын

Where did you buy that?

@malcolmhendra20

Жыл бұрын

@@slipknotsoad86 I bought it from The Bicycle Lounge in Ormskirk, Lancashire. If your local and interested have a look at Merlin cycles in Chorlely. The have a 2022 Terra C at a very competitive price (at least it was there last week when I called in!).

@slipknotsoad86

Жыл бұрын

@@malcolmhendra20 I'm in kent so far from local! thanks for replying though, it was worth a shot as that is a great deal!

Thanks for good video! If I should by a roadbike now I would look for tyre clearance. The Canyon Endurace looks interesting. Gravel bikes are probably the kings of clearance and a versatile choice. My first "roadbike" was a Rocky Mountain Rail cyclodrossbike and has given me thousands of good kilometers during almost 20 years.

@jason200912

Жыл бұрын

Get a road bike. make sure the brakes are high screw n shaped so they can fit fat tires. Buy gravel tires. Problem solved.

@xrenx4921

10 ай бұрын

@@jason200912 wouldn’t drive gravel with a road bike. Buy a 2nd bike specially for gravel and you’ll be happier

Great video and great choice for value roadbikes. Small correction David. The Rose road bike is very light aluminium build with a very fine finished, which it looks like carbon. Greetings from Germany.

@DilbertMuc

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. I mistook the Rose Pro SL for a carbon bike until I saw the aluminium weldings at the bottom bracket. 😅

@hoizkiacha

6 ай бұрын

unfortunately the pro sl is no longer available

Interesting comments on the gravel. Considering one to replace my current. Warwickshire lanes are awful these days. I’m getting to old for thin rubber 😂

2000euro cathegory and not pick any Cube bike is a big blunder. That would be my first choice out of all your recommendetions without thinking toolong. Awesome frames of really high quality, top groupsets. Attain or Agree lines are what everyone should be considering in 2000 budget

Just found a Giant Defy with a paint blemish on the frame in my local bike shop, massive discount, collection next weekend 😊

Bought a 2nd hand Scott Addict (2020) for £1200 last year and absolutely love it !

Still rocking my trek sl6 2017 rim brake 2500€,bought some zipp 303´s for racing,still good enough today.

For two grand you can get a fantastic second hand bike. A mate of mine picked up a carbon Fondriest, Full Ultegra with Zipp 404v wheels for £600. It had hardly been ridden and was like new.

@InfinityProTeam

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this is a good point, surely with two grand you can get some incredible spec bikes second hand

@danarello2563

Жыл бұрын

@@InfinityProTeam That's a good idea. I'm nervous about buying a used carbon road bike because the frame could have an issue. Probably unwarranted.

@JumpingWatermelons

Жыл бұрын

Yep, it was many years ago but in the past I paid $2,000 for a barely used Colnago C40 with Campy Record, some kind of rare special carbon cranks that Colnago sourced for a while, and a set of some special edition (extra light) Zip 303s (I think to buy all that new was over $10,000 at the time). Your friend got a really great deal on that Fondriest

Biig thumbs up for having the courage to include other bikes than the usual one's 👍🏻 Tnx. Dave.

@davidarthur

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

I have that Trek Emonda ALR and tarted it up with Dura Ace 😊

@ditto1958

4 күн бұрын

Did that make a difference?

I’d love to get the Rose gravel bike, but it doesn’t seem possible in the UK. Is this still the case?

You can actually get the Emonda SL5 disc for £2k if you look around. Good discount and I did consider it but ended up with a TCR,based on the frame weight.

@yonglingng5640

Жыл бұрын

You also end up with a bike that's easier to work on (sub-hour headset service) and compatible with almost any, if not any direct-drive turbo trainer. There's simply not much to fault about this bike.

@stanislavkindiakov6334

Жыл бұрын

Haha, same did I, also took TCR and saved 800 Euro 😅

Nice content! But the Piano(or so) background loop is KILLING me!!!

This is a step in the right direction. Let the market lead the industry giants, not the other way around

Anyone have thoughts on how the Fezzari Empire or Veyo stack up as value bikes? Keep in mind that the standard Veyo carbon frame won’t be out until this summer...all the current Veyo prices reflect their super light frame.

The old gen ultimate cf sl 7 is not available anymore. They replaced it with an 'updated' version that now costs €2699 and has worse components.

Cannondale caad optima 1 for 1600 with 105 is hard too beat

Van Rysel the Decathlon in-house brand also offers, both alloy and carbon, well specced road bikes in this price range. Unfortunately there still is some stigma buying from Decathlon.

I would love to see you test and review De Rosa Bicycles.

I have a 2019 CAAD12 Ultegra. Still rides amazing today. Cannondale is the best when it comes to Alloy. Same with Specialized with the Allez.

@Glebaka

Жыл бұрын

I have Caad 5 from 2005, still rides amazing😅 actualy theres no big differnce between new and old bikes, specially if old is upgraded

@Hauptstufe

Жыл бұрын

@@Glebaka 1998 CAD3 checking in.

@FriendlyFarmMachineryToolCpBel

Жыл бұрын

I sold my old Allez, a stiff, beautiful frame. Steep angles made it a great bike for crit racing. Specialized alloy frames up there with anyone's!

@Cortes19882012

Жыл бұрын

@@FriendlyFarmMachineryToolCpBel The Allez still remains to be the best bike for crit racing. The frames even got better.

@FriendlyFarmMachineryToolCpBel

Жыл бұрын

@@Cortes19882012 , great 😃😃😃

Let me tell you as a vintage and new old stock kind of rider, anything Shimano Claris and Sora that’s being made by Shimano now, is as good if not better than Dura Ace and Ultegra of yesteryear. AND is compatible with previous groupsets. Where as new Tiagra id im not mistaken isn’t compatible with other precious 10 speed groupsets.

I’m wondering if Shimano is still producing mechanical 11 speed group sets for sale? I haven’t seen any full groups sets for sale, I just bought a full mechanical Dura Ace but had to buy it in pieces. Love my mechanical!

@marktownend3782

Жыл бұрын

They do but it's difficult to get hold of

Canyon Ultimate CF SL 8 Rim brake is a great deal full Ultegra

@cesaramoga

Жыл бұрын

I just order it the same ultimate yesterday for 2100 US. I am training for an Ironman. I cannot wait to see what this new bad boy can do. I think this bike is a great deal. Sadly, the new canyon bikes have higher prices so the value per dollar has decreased.

Quick question Dave. Why do you never review PlanetX bikes? A british brand with a good Rep. Just Interested. Cheers

I can't find a similarly equipped TCR for that price point in the US market - I would buy it if I could find it!

Still love my trek Emonda 2017 rim brake

Any suggestions on a bike this prove range, that could be used for a beginner triathlete that also would like to ride gravel?

Hi David, how would you compare the Giant TCR to the Giant Defy range? Is the Defy just a more upright/endurance type setup? Thanks again

@motostarmx1777

Жыл бұрын

I have owned two defys..yes they are more upright in posistion but still a racy bike..you could lower the bars if you wanted to,but i love a all day ride and being north of 50 years old, im grateful for the comfort..

The big brands also need to get with the program with respect to crank length and handlebar width. Too often the offerings are too big. The only way to get 165mm cranks is with a small or extra small frame. Sub 400mm handlebars likewise.

I have to say nice video and the price point more realistic. Does seem some people think you should have covered every bike in the world in the 2k range. Clearly not possible.

great man, great bike, great price, great quality ...TREK

Trek Domane AL is a good option in the US. Trek are expanding their retail shop coverage pretty well. Which means good warranty coverage countrywide

@joed7185

Жыл бұрын

Had the AL5 Disc not even for a year and sold it. Such a heavy slug of a bike.

@jonpoon3896

Жыл бұрын

@@joed7185 1. Are there lighter options for the price? 2. Is it the bike? I kid

@joed7185

Жыл бұрын

@@jonpoon3896 Its Disc Brakes. Look to get a Specialized Allez Elite rim brake.Thats what I got. SO much better response wise and lighter.

I'd love to ride a road bike, but they are too difficult for me, I'm not flexible enough. Could you make a video with more upright, comfortable bikes?

If you 1. Pack your bike in a car 2. Take your bike on a plane 3. Ride for fun 4. Do overnight rides 5. Are over 90kg 6. Ride on a variety of roads - then you need Alloy Frames... If you 1. A show off 2. A tosser 3. Think you are some elite racer... You need a carbon frame.

You forgot another good german Brand. I bought a Stevens Aspin to ride during winter. A really fantastic bike. Complete Ultegra Groupset with only Rim Brakes, but this is for me ok.

2:49 I have a Giant Propel 2022 model. I know it's not in this price range of road bikes, but I just wanted to say that I love the bike so much! Giant is a great value for money regardless of what price range you're looking at. I'd love to save up for a TCR one day, but right now I'm having fun enjoying my Propel ❤

@sorexys5756

11 ай бұрын

Im considering to buy the propel 2. And i dont have written so many Bikes, but others thank components of course the ride Feeling is very Important

How bout the Cannondale Carbon 4 with Tiagra groupset?

I think in this Pricerange Cube has good offerings.

I have had carbon and aluminum,one of my bikes used paid 800.00 and have had no issues it has a Claris

Bought a polygon stratos with shimano 105 Groupies for 1039€. The cheapest bike with shimyno 105.

I like your full zip hoodie! What brand is it? Great video!

@davidarthur

Жыл бұрын

It’s a Sportful Giara hoody 👍

Bit deceptive on the Giant TCR 1, as this is the 2021 model and they have none in stock anywhere, the 2022 model they have loads of, but they are 3k

Not quite the group set you mention on the GIANT, comes with Shimano 105

The way to get the best bike for 2'000€ is going used. I just bought a Simplon Pavo Granfondo (Full Carbon, Shimano Ultegra, 5 years old, 4'500€ new, 3'300km) for 1'600€

David Arthur you're aware that alloy isn't the short version of aluminum right?

Hi David, what do you think about the new Fezzari Veyo? It seems to be a really good all-around aero road bike that offers 105 di2 and Ultegra di2 12 speed for $thousands less than even the Canyon Ultimate,

@davekendall1338

Жыл бұрын

I have the same question, but as Fezzari is an American brand, he may not have had the opportunity to get hands on with one. Still curious to see how it or the Empire stack up.

What best gears for road cycling esp for hill climbing but yet gives speed on flat

If I live in another European country and buy a Vitus bike, can they deliver it to me and STILL keep the warranty?

1:03 I think alloy and alu are two different things. In the (not that remote) past, all bicycles were made out of steel; which is a combination (alloy) of iron and carbon, whereas alu is the material on its own. Now, maybe, that's an habit you have in the Anglosphere to call it like this.

@XerxesGustav

Жыл бұрын

Alloy is by definition a mixture of different types of metals. All aluminum bikes are alloy too, since no bike today is made from 100% aluminum. One quite common type of aluminium, named 6061 for example also contains magnesium, silicone, copper and chrome.

I really want to start biking but as a newcomer should i start with the cheapest offering from the brands or should i just spend like 2k+ on a carbon bike?

The one thing I hate about Giant, is the way they market their bikes in different countries. That model TCR is not available in Japan. In fact the only models available with the Ultegra are the Di2. The lower end models come with the 105 group sets.

@David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes Where did you get that hoody from. Sleek, Simple, Nice Color... 👀👀👀

until the 105 12 speed mechanical groupset is released the question is mute?

Excellent video,,,,,,Magistroni aluminium 7005,,out of Mexico…..it does the job

You missed out the vitus zenium crs. I own one and there us no better bike for under 2k - high quality carbon frame, ultegra groupset,8kg weight and it rides fantastic - very comfortable with excellent road manners and handling.

I have a Diverge, very slow on the 32m heavy tyres it comes with

the piano in your background music is quite infruriating David

@davidarthur

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback sir

@keelferm

Жыл бұрын

@@davidarthur thanks for the courteous reply David. Keep up the good work 🙂

for me its all about the quality of the wheels, I bought a set of v fast deep 50mm Chinese wheels 10 years ago and they have not needed as much as a spoke change, get an average bike with fast wheels

For good value alloy bikes, you should also rake a look at Dolan’s offerings.