Great video and review Eric. After 50,000 miles on these Infinity Seats, I think 'conventional' saddles are the weird aesthetic. I use them for road, gravel and MTB. My rides go up to 12 hours. Like rim brakes and carbon wheels, (what we did to try and make carbon wheels work vs simply going to a brake rotor and eliminating contact with the rim), bike saddles for over 100 years have been based on a bad design and optimized as best as possible by softening the concentrated pressure on the ischium, or, sit bone. Infinity Seats changed that by eliminating all pressure on the ischium, perineum region and for the most part, the pudendal nerve which combined, make up the reasons conventional seats are often associated with not just ischium pain, but numbness in the entire area. Also note that Infinity now offers the the X Series seats made with weather proof marine vinyl - best for muddle, wet severe conditions where you don't want to worry about taking care of the leather. As for price, well in the middle of the premium seat market. Considering many cycling enthusiast spend thousands or even $10,000+ for their bike, often adding carbon wheels for thousands more, buying an artesian Infinity Seat that turns discomfort into a comfy experience is the greatest bargain in bikes. As I say often, "After a 12 hour race, the only thing that doesn't hurt is my ass". - Grey Haired Cycling Dude. PS: I wear bibs with a 2mm chamois.................no more diaper pads in my bibs!

@WheelstoWander

24 күн бұрын

Great to hear that Eugene! The way you describe the Infinity Seat as the greatest bargain in bikes is a really interesting point to make for big spenders. It would nice if people could try these more readily, as for a smaller budget these run pricey. The serie X sounds like my next upgrade :) Thanks & Best wishes!

Thank you for introducing Me to Infiniti Bike seats. Dr. Vince and Diane are beautiful souls. They really care about people. Thank you for creating this video.❤

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Thanks & All the Best 😊

Interesting video! I have 3 bikes and all 3 have a Brooks B17 on them. After 45 years of cycling I have found these to be the most comfortable for me. That said, I totally understand what you’re saying about sliding into the pocket of the Brooks saddle. The One Infinity is expensive but I may look into it. If the saddle truly makes you more comfortable on the bike, the money is worth it! Thanks for the review!

Thank you, Eric. I've been hoping for this video to see your long term thoughts. I think this will be my next saddle, Thank you ✌

@steveretiredandcycling

7 ай бұрын

Hey Tony. Eric got it right

@BluecollarBackcountry

7 ай бұрын

I knew you really liked yours and I asked Eric a while back for a long term review. To late for Christmas but I see one in my future. Thanks Steve

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Hi Tony! I hope you will enjoy yours as much as I do mine! Merry Christmas ☃️ and All the best!

I used a Brooks B17 for a number of years and used to think these were the best saddles in the world, but not using padded cycling shorts, the pressure soon built up in the Perineal area and made long rides seriously uncomfortable. I have recently been introduced (last six months or so) to the Selle SMP TRK, which has a central cut out area albeit smaller than the Infinity and I must say it's a delight to ride on - quite possibly one of the most comfortable saddles I've ever ridden. I think the cost of the infinity is a definite turn off, especially since it doesn't appear to be all that durable, but getting the saddle right is probably the single most important step to ensuring comfort on the road and buying whatever suits, regardless of the cost, is the right way to go here. Thanks for another insightful gear review.

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Hi Paul! I also have high regards for the B17 but they fall short in a few key areas. I have seen the Selle SMP and they look very capable. The Infinity Seats are expensive and I expect the A1X adventure to be a lot more durable. The E2 isn't really designed for months on end being out in the elements. I agree that getting the saddle right is the singel most important step to cycling comfort. All the best!

@andreasruther8750

7 ай бұрын

There are also Brooks saddles with cutout, look out for the "Carved" version. I'll be testing the b17 carved narrow in April for a 1.000km ultra race. I'm very curios how it works out.

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

I have seen them and I would be curious to know how you get on with it.? Best wishes!

@andreasruther8750

7 ай бұрын

@@WheelstoWander I'll let you know once I made some longer rides with it!

@snarkywisecrack

7 ай бұрын

​@@WheelstoWanderThanks for this video. What I want to know is if you are in the elements so much, how much crap flies up through the Infinity saddle?

This was great information!! Thanks for sharing! ❤

@WheelstoWander

3 ай бұрын

Happy to hear that 😊 All the best!!

I use an original solid plastic Infinity seat and have added a seat cover. This is by far the best road bike seat I have ever had. I have never had any abrasion or hot spots in rides up to 100 miles. Highly recommend.

Very good review. Looks interesting but like you I would have to save up for this. Take care, Al

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Thank you Al! Yes, they are expensive and if I wasn't lucky with a secondhand find I might have never tried it. Merry Christmas 🎄

Very good review on the seat

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Thanks David 😊 All the Best!

Salut Eric! For me, these are the 3 points of contact. So, I looked for very comfortable saddles that were not slippery with my jeans because I often ride and even go downhill without holding the handlebars. Fortunately, there are plenty of choices with the slot in the middle. For the pedals, I finally opted for the 4 bikes for the Shimano XT wide version and without the flu bolts but I added the famous Velcro strap in the slot which prevents the foot from sliding forward. And last point, the handles in real molded wood (this is not the kind of bike you leave parked in the street ;). Wood is an indescribable feeling of warmth and comfort.

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Thanks Didier! It sounds like you have really dialed in your bikes comfort 👌🏼 I am interested to know what brand the wooden handles are? That sounds awesome! Best wishes!!

I plan to check out more about the Infinity.

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Cool! All the best 😊

Thanks for the video! I'm very interested in alternative saddle concepts. I also don't wear a padded shorts because it only gives me comfort for a short while. Also when it's hot, the sweat does not help on long rides. I do ultracycling (like 1000km in 3 days) and bought a brooks b17 narrow which I hope will fit better than the others I used before. But it's really a niche so I appreciate you bringing this up a lot! Although the prize is a big matter...

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

I feel the same way about padded shorts. I hope the info hear might help you in some way to find better comfort on your ultra rides. Thank you & All the best!

Great information I ride a Brooke's with suspension but have developed issues the older I get 😊❤

@weedhopp

7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much 😊✌️❤️

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Thanks Jerri! That sounds unpleasant Perhaps the combo with the Thudbuster can be interesting? Best wishes!

@weedhopp

7 ай бұрын

@@WheelstoWander I am to short for a thudbuster lol

Hey Eric, I only use Infinity bike seats. Best most comfortable seat made!

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

For me too 👍🏼 Great to hear you enjoy yours!! All the best

Very interesting. I just bought three Selle Italias that were dirt cheap for my "town bikes " (70's vintage steel roadies with perfectly OK but beat up factory saddles ) and they are pretty awesome. For the mule tourer, I splurged 40.00+ on a Selle Italia Touring women's/Unisex saddle with a wide- butt profile . (A lot of gear now is listed as "Unisex". have you noticed that?) It's a "Float" model I think. Generally, I don't have a lot of saddle discomfort , I can adapt pretty well to almost anything (within reason) , and I discovered that padded shorts really aren't mandatory, but I do use them for long touring if they don't chafe. I love the old Avocet saddles , but figured I'd splurge on the Selle Float because I'm officially old now. We'll see what happens. When I first saw that thumbnail I thought yes, durability , and that saddle's not gonna be cheap. Weldwood Contact Cement and a binder clamp or V clamp will cure that rear section , you don't need staples. I wonder what they'd charge to repair it . Hell, If I was that CEO, I'd do it for free for you just for the good press. Yeah I do hate it when you feel like you have to keep sliding back on the saddle to be "in position". Even when you have it all the way back on the rails. That's an immediate swap out. The Avocets never do that to me. B-17's are off my radar now, too heavy, and too much obsession. And they get stolen. Folks, let's all remember that no saddle is going to forever endure the torture that Eric and Maudi can dish out year after year . I mean, Morroco for Gods' sakes lol. Great analysis . Oh and now is the time to buy bike stuff as the market is now flooded with post-Covid surplus . Onward.

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Hi Robert! Some wonderful insights. Good to hear I am not the only one sliding down on the B17's. I thought it was maybe because I am a bit weird or something 😉 Thanks for the contact cement tip, I will look into that! Best wishes & Tailwinds!!

Interesting saddle. Thank you 🌻

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Thanks Vive 😊 All the Best!

Explained very well

@WheelstoWander

3 ай бұрын

Thanks 😊

I've had trouble with the rails braking on both my B17 and a Selle Anatomica. So I advise getting the strongest rather than lightest frame. I weighed about 190 pounds at the time...

@WheelstoWander

6 ай бұрын

I like some resiliency too 👍🏼

I think your reviews along with your partners are extremely valuable given your extensive bike touring trip, however I think saddles are still subjective ie no saddle available will suit everyone the fact that you found it second hand confirms, I would like to try one but that price is extortionate for what you get the price just doesn't justify. I also ride without any padded shorts and have no problems with the b17 (which I love) and do think the price of the b17 justifies what you get, but im not so comfortable with the fact that its leather and can change shape over time I found it perfect out of the box so I keep it covered with a thin rain cover and ive only used proofide when it looks dull (2 times in the 4 years ive had it) luckily its kept its shape. thanks for the review✌️

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the nice words! The price is steep and now that I have tried it I can say it works very well for me. I might not have tried it if I wasn't able to find it secondhand. Happy to hear you are enjoying your B17 👍🏼 Happy holidays!

@mikascamp

7 ай бұрын

@@WheelstoWander Merry Christmas and happy new year😉👍

Thanks again for a wonderfully informative video. I'm a big fan. Question....My issue with bike seats is not with my sits bones...it is with chafing on the upper, inner thigh in the crotch area...just one side...can you speak to that kind of irritation in regards to the Infinity saddle? Thank you.

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Thank you Evan! I had no problem with chafing. The seat has quite a thin profile so not a lot there to catch the thighs. I have really slim legs though... All the best!

Saddles are a very personal thing. This looks interesting, but I'm a happy long time Brooks user, the sprung version of the B17 (also without padded shorts). Great that you picked this up so cheap - that full price is crazy! I'm a big fan of buying second hand, and all my Brooks saddles have been used. People buy them, find the break-in period too painful, and give up on them. Another thing I like about Brooks saddles is that they last forever and if the rails break (like mine have) it's not too difficult or expensive to replace them. Only down side is remembering to put a saddle cover on when it's left out in the rain! Looking forward to your next set of cycling adventure videos - hope we don't have to wait too long 👍

Yes they work. Been riding on infinity’s gravel saddle. Killer after broken in.

Thanks for sharing, I’ll get one of those! What the brand of your pedals?

@WheelstoWander

6 ай бұрын

You're welcome! The pedals are from the brand PedalSquad.

They now make Infinity saddles with a fabric in the empty space. Would you choose that as your replacement? Are there any downsides to having a cutout in the center? Don't you feel the edge of the saddle rubbing against your inner thigh? Thanks for this very helpful and interesting review.

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

I am curious to try that version! A possible downside could be perhaps spray from your tyres... I have no problem with rubbing against my thigh. All the best!

I'm about a 240 lb. guy and have been having a hard time finding a saddle that doesn't hurt my perineum and sit bones. I've looked into these saddles and they seem to make a lot of sense. The new hammock design especially to distribute pressure even more. The price has always been an issue so the used market was a good idea to start. I was concerned to see the damage to the saddle considering the price but wonder if a lack of care by the previous owner might have had something to do with it? I would probably go with a synthetic material as well because the leather really gives no advantage that I can think of given the design. I would think given the price and how different this saddle is the manufacturer would have display units set up for people to sit on and see for themselves if they want to break into the market. Since I'm in the US I'm going to check on the website and see if this is an option anywhere hear. You don't see many people trying these but every one I have has always been a good review so I'm glad to see an opinion from someone with your experience and reputation. Thanks for the info and I look forward to more great videos. P.S. Any plans of riding in the U.S.?

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

They saddle looked great when I got it. Occasionally the bike falls over because I didn't secure the kickstand enough in the touch and go nature of things (filming a lot!). Also I had the wrong leather balm that left stains on my pants so I didn't use it nearly as much as needed. The saddle has also been outside 24/7 for months in rain, snow, sun, etc. It's not designed for that use. I would probably go for the A1X version now. No direct plans but we would love to ride the U.S. some day! Thanks & All the best!

@emp-ty-g

7 ай бұрын

@@WheelstoWander put a plastic bag over it at all times. even when you use it.

I love the consept! My sit bones have always been an issue. Great review on the Infinity saddle. ❤

@nickweigel461

7 ай бұрын

It doesn't work as well as you may think. Sitting on the hamstring tendon will increase tensile force on the sitbone still, this won't be captured by a pressure map. Additionally you can't move around on this saddle well which further tends to increase discomfort due to sustained pressure. I'm not saying this saddle can't work better for some than traditional saddles but it's certainly not magic for everyone.

@Bernhard20Zoll

7 ай бұрын

The fundamental problem with every bicycle saddle is the small seat area and therefore the high pressure. I think the crucial question is what the body cannot do. If this goes below a certain value, the only thing left to do is stop or leigerad. see my post Bernard

Uhhh... Very very excited to test one of these! Generally, I always hear good feedback on the Infinity Bike Seat!

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

It could be a game changer 🤞🏼

@Bikepacking

7 ай бұрын

@@WheelstoWanderit is

Does this saddle cause any tailbone pressure? I may try one due to ongoing issues, even though their website says they do not accept returns. I'm that desperate! (And I figure I can always re-sell it online if I hate it).

@WheelstoWander

3 ай бұрын

You might think there would be a lot of pressure because of the construction below the tailbone area. I hardly feel any pressure on my tailbone what surprised me actually. Than again I have no direct issues... Good luck!

Can you tell me please… Do you have to have your sits bones measured to send to the Infiniti company, or are the saddles a standard size?

@emp-ty-g

7 ай бұрын

think you can find answers the home page.

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

The come in one size!

i came really close to buying one of these but the fact it's leather put me off with the rain we have in the UK .

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

They have versions that should be more durable in the rain.

@kevindean9613

3 ай бұрын

Could you do a review on you bamboo handlebars & do you have your handlebars higher / lower or level with your saddle .Thanks for all the effort you put into your videos .

i can Say something about It because i had One infinity saddle. First of all It's really expensive, i Remember i spent 300 euros, thinking that i m in Europe and the shipping costs from US are super High. But in my experience It was not a gamechanger, this because It's true that you can preserve your Seat Bones from the pain but... All the soft tissues around the seatbones suffer so much... This Is why i gave It away After some rides, for me It was not good as i expected.

Will this saddle be good for long distance and shorter fast gravel bike rides in typical for this kind of bikes bent position?

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

I believe it would be good for both scenario's!

@JanKowalski-ux6nt

7 ай бұрын

@@WheelstoWander ❤️❤️❤️

@eugenebernosky1888

Ай бұрын

They sure do. I personally use the Seats in every ride length and position from MTB (upright) to TT, (saddles forward, nose lower, TT cockpit).

Have you tried noseless saddles? =) I have ridden those for more than 10 years and even if I got paid I would not use normal saddles. XD We are using spongy wonder saddle but there are others too.

thank you from big sky montana

@WheelstoWander

2 ай бұрын

You too 🙏🏼

What is the name of the pedals on your bike in this video?

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

They are from the brand PedalSquad. I really like them!

Привет, рад вас видеть. 👍

I wanted to buy such a saddle, but unfortunately it is not available anywhere in Europe.

@WheelstoWander

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's hard to get a hold of!

I've used one of these for a year now. It's easily the least painful saddle I've ever experienced.

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

That is a good way of describing it! All saddles , no matter how good, will eventually start to bring some discomfort.

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

That's is kind of a good way of putting it!

What seat does Maudi use?😊

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

She uses a Selle Italia Donna!

@TerryRamsey-jg8fm

7 ай бұрын

Thank you👍😁...😍

Picking a saddle that's right for you is a tough task. Unless you are a bike fitter or physiotherapist with access to pressure mapping tools like that seen at 1:36min you may find that you spend money on saddles only to have to make due with what you got or admit defeat and try again. . If you want to ensure that the saddle is right for you go and see a bike fitter who has the tools to ensure that you get what fits you, it will be cheaper in the long run.

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I like stories that lead to a good end. Yaknowhatamean?

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

A comfortable back end ya mean 😆

Do they do a vegan option?

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Yes, it's called the Vegan Series.

@stuartchester6899

6 ай бұрын

@@WheelstoWander why is it called vegan . Cows are not vegan ,they all weaned on milk ffs..what a load of utter crap

@infinitybikeseat584

Ай бұрын

Yes, we have seats now made with marine vinyl.

For me, the price isn't the problem but the lack of a return policy or a demo program.

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

A demo program would be great to test before buying!

Looks like it makes sense but weird lol

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

It's definitely something else 😉

Pretty interesting design but the money....well. I think I buy me a basic saddle and cut it out myself 😅🤣😂🙂🙃😉😊and sell it for half price of that one

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

😆😉

Price makes it a permanent no for me, shame.

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

They are expensive! Perhaps try and look on the secondhand market...

$357 - $477 great product review though

@WheelstoWander

3 ай бұрын

Thanks! It is pricey but handmade and very comfortable. All the best!

This saddle is equivalent to putting your face in a massage bed. So i bet it's comfy 😊

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

😂 Love the analogy!

@BecKnBikes

7 ай бұрын

@@WheelstoWander Lol

@emp-ty-g

7 ай бұрын

so it`s an ass bed :)

I don't know, this saddle cost over 400 US bucks. Not for the average person. Maybe when the price comes down, way down. Seems like it would work but still a gamble if I would even like it.

@WheelstoWander

24 күн бұрын

I found it second hand! That could be a way to go about it... All the best

400.00+ for a bike seat .I dont think so

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

I agree that they are expensive. The comfort however is next level for me.

@the.communist

7 ай бұрын

Welcome to the bike industry

I appreciate you telling us about this amazing solution, but I don't care how comfortable a seat is, I'm not paying $320 for it. 😂

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yes, the price is up there. If you cycle a lot like me comfort is very important. All the best!

@lascelledwards9869

27 күн бұрын

So you'll ride for miles in excruciating 😢 pain , I a 5 dollar seat.... Smart

The saddle itself is not too far out there if it gives me a comfortable ride but the price...no.

@WheelstoWander

5 ай бұрын

It is on the expensive side I agree. Perhaps try the second hand market...

Infinity definitely… look at race across America… many successful crossings on infinity. Personally, I have ridden 500 miles essentially nonstop, with no significant discomfort

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

Great to hear that! All the best and many wonderful miles ahead 🍀

over 300 $ ,that to much for the seat

What kind of pedal you’re using? Looks like something for barefoot

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

It is a PedalSquad pedal. They are great for going barefoot. I love them!

No rules for choosing saddle. Every one has it's own ass. Simple!! Beginners should try till they find what is good for them. Experienced cyclist knows what his heeds. So its much easier for him to find the correct one. I can give one tip for the beginners: The price of the saddle has nothing with the comfort. The price usually depends only the brand. Don't be tempted to buy an expensive saddle... Excellent relatively budget saddle brand is "Velo" made in Taiwan.

I have used a Brooks B17 and Professional for years with absolutely no problems but more importantly, a saddle needs to look good and this really doesn't!!!!

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

That's great! I like a good looking saddle but comfort first for me.

@emp-ty-g

7 ай бұрын

i don't care if it was pink and smells bad. comfort first

That saddle costs more than the bike. Ha ha ha.

@WheelstoWander

24 күн бұрын

Not really...

@comounaverdura

23 күн бұрын

@@WheelstoWander I was alluding to the fact it is so expensive most people will not buy it.

Any saddle your ass will adapt. I bet that this saddle is no different from other saddles in giving you ass pain when you first start riding. Now that last sentence sound different for perverts but anyway you clean minded people got the real point 😅

@WheelstoWander

7 ай бұрын

I read many reviews from people who have had out of the box comfort with this saddle. Not everyone gets on with it though!

@emp-ty-g

7 ай бұрын

what's wrong with being a pervert?