Is this as good as a real NEVE!? || Heritage Audio - HA-609a

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INDEX:
00:00 - Intro
00:20 - Unboxing glamour
00:43 - What is the 609A?
01:06 - Comparison
03:38 - Review
05:41 - Conclusion
06:14 - Outro

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  • @MACRONOne
    @MACRONOne4 жыл бұрын

    The original sounds a bit darker/deeper, but the clone is at least 95% accurate, it sounds very very nice.

  • @realityonx3063

    @realityonx3063

    4 жыл бұрын

    I find high frequencies more relaxed in original one...yes clone is about 80/90% accurate..neve sounds smooth. Clone sounds crisp

  • @GetSongsDone

    @GetSongsDone

    4 жыл бұрын

    +1 for the original

  • @giuliano8031

    @giuliano8031

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stupid guys that try to rate based on percentages by how much it sounds the same, *you guys are ridiculous*. Does it matter if it sounds the same? FUCK NO

  • @jocke1972

    @jocke1972

    3 жыл бұрын

    The stereo image is very different though, doesn´t sound that alike over heaphones but I imagine it would be less of a difference with speakers

  • @whatskraken3886

    @whatskraken3886

    2 жыл бұрын

    People use words like “deeper” and “relaxed” like they actually mean anything lmao edit: also it’s hilarious how you said “the original sounds darker!” and then the comment right below you says “the clone sounds darker!” lmao just proves how bullshit this whole thing is

  • @DavidPeck
    @DavidPeck4 жыл бұрын

    The original seemed to have a wider stereo image, and has a bit of color/smearing in the upper mids. However, the Heritage sounded a bit more dynamic, responsive, and modern and kept more punch, but a bit darker and more center focused in the stereo field. Heritage sounds great!

  • @chrisogle001
    @chrisogle0014 жыл бұрын

    I think it sounds good. Even though it’s a clone and doesn’t perfectly represent the original, it sounds really good. And as a musician and producer, I’m not trying to replicate a sound as much as get a good sound that fits what I’m doing.

  • @LafemmebearMusic

    @LafemmebearMusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!! That!

  • @78thandSynth

    @78thandSynth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Having trouble choosing my first 2 channel - this reply was super helpful. Agreed

  • @agoogleuser7832

    @agoogleuser7832

    2 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't have said it better myself! 😊

  • @b.hornetiii.6771
    @b.hornetiii.6771 Жыл бұрын

    When "pushed to the limit", the Neve just shines ... Like with all of things in life, the copy can do so much than comes the original ...

  • @annekedebruyn7797
    @annekedebruyn77974 жыл бұрын

    You are right, as a broadcasting engineer, I reallyI don't like the saving costs of the power supply and XLRs. If you are able to shell out 1700, you probably have money enough to pay 2000 if that means a near perfect unit. Sounds killer tho.

  • @_evolj
    @_evolj4 жыл бұрын

    Man the production quality of your videos is really stepping up!

  • @stewie3128
    @stewie31284 жыл бұрын

    They sound really close, but I think the Heritage actually sounds a little clearer, yet more narrow. Maybe the clarity is down to age?

  • @Dionysus667

    @Dionysus667

    4 жыл бұрын

    There's some different variations of the original Neve, which sound different. I assume Heritage Audio would clone the most popular model, which is not the one in de video as far as I am aware. With that said; I still personally prefer the 33609 over the HA609 in this case =).

  • @deanroddey2881

    @deanroddey2881

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeh, you always have to take into account that the tolerances on parts back in the day were way higher than now. So any two of the originals would likely have some variation even when new, much less after decades of use.

  • @Redigulas

    @Redigulas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Goes to show how subjective music is because i feel the exact opposite!

  • @GaragebandandBeyond
    @GaragebandandBeyond4 жыл бұрын

    I really want that thing! Great demo! To my ears it sounds identical. Great demo!

  • @Dantej24
    @Dantej243 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for that and all of your reviews!

  • @tekis0
    @tekis02 жыл бұрын

    The Heritage sounds fantastic! Yes, I've used many a 33609 in my day and they're built very well. Sonically, I think they're close enough. In the context of a mix, they're indistinguishable from each other.

  • @audiotales5106
    @audiotales51062 жыл бұрын

    Ciao! In my studio the difference is more than 95%. The first impression is that the clone has much more "forward" sound, which is not a bad thing. I can say is sounds more "modern". The fast transient on the vintage are smoother. It sounds a bit darker but deeper an wider. For my taste the original neve sounds more "musical". On the second track the way it glues vox and piano is really magical... And I can't hear the same thing on the clone version... just my point of view ! :-*

  • @jsasa5668

    @jsasa5668

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I hear the same

  • @halcyo
    @halcyo Жыл бұрын

    I applaud your comparison- seamlessly A-B’ing back and forth without stops is soooo much better than many videos. They are close-ish, but you can hear the difference, even on my iphone haha. The heritage sounds damn good though- I don’t think I preferred either one for every task. $1800 still ain’t exactly cheap though still.

  • @thepmanvan111
    @thepmanvan1114 жыл бұрын

    Really close. Think the Neve is a little smoother.

  • @revelationsoundstudio

    @revelationsoundstudio

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you on this. I believe the 3 custom transformers on each channel of the Neve is what gives it a smoother sound.

  • @jaimepainortiz
    @jaimepainortiz3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. It's always good to hear and see a Head-to-Head competition of classic vs modern takes. That aside I use them both. Just a quick addition to anyone's review of these units.The Neve is good for say a group of stems that need that extra Fatness or deep warmth, the vox or digital take that sounds brittle, the kind of track that someone would say it's missing that "umph". The Heritage is good for a good recording in the Hybrid studio (digital/analogue) sense that needs that lift to the clear crispy side, as in if there's already plenty of heft and warmth (yes there can be times where there is too much warm fuzziness, the suffocating kind). The units are by all means a good investment. The Heritage's power supply sucks but the overall versatility juuuust barely beats the Neve, as in the Heritage can be dialed up or down in both crispiness and warmth whereas the Neve can only go so far in the clean razor sharpness [boosting EQ or air-bands]. Maybe a beginner's decent EQ stage would be a pair of Maag EQ4 (Rack version Maag EQ4m) or API 560/API 5500 then it would give the Neve a very good High end rounded sound. That's Just my 2 cents. I have many Billboard tracks that have used either and or just one

  • @crawbug8932
    @crawbug89324 жыл бұрын

    that's some awesome camera work at the beginning

  • @markshortall3384
    @markshortall33844 жыл бұрын

    This has really became one of my favrouite channels, excellent reviw dude. I love the clone, i wouldnt be complaining if i had it, but the neve does have a more transparent sound with less harshness in my opinion. I think it is worth the money though.

  • @agoogleuser7832

    @agoogleuser7832

    2 жыл бұрын

    Id say the same

  • @cheekbone4554
    @cheekbone45544 жыл бұрын

    It kinda sounds like it changes the stereo imaging slightly - the original sounds more centred/glued

  • @hotsince84

    @hotsince84

    4 жыл бұрын

    I noticed the same

  • @ThePickledOnions

    @ThePickledOnions

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yass!

  • @TheCarymiller

    @TheCarymiller

    4 жыл бұрын

    I felt the same way, listening on an ADAM SUB8 with Equator D5s and PSI A17ms here. (Switchable). AMS Neve Had a stronger center image with sub low frequency information, and the Heritage had a bit more mids/upper mids. I think this is due to the Carnhill standard Transformers Vs AMS Neve brand transformers (slightly different formula/design)? Snare feels great on the Heritage however. It's the Kick that shows the slight differences really. A little touch of EQ before or after would probably even things out.

  • @cheekbone4554

    @cheekbone4554

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheCarymiller Well said!

  • @TheCarymiller

    @TheCarymiller

    4 жыл бұрын

    @MomoTheBellyDancer Yes, the differences are slight, but easy to pick out. There's just more mids on the snare, so I get more of the crack of it with the Heritage, and there's better definition in the center imaging with the kick using the AMS Neve, which is probably due to the Marinair style transformers Vs the basic Carnhills in most Neve-clone designs. I used to own a pair of 1066 Channel strips and a bunch of rewired vintage 1272s that all had the original Marinair Radar LO output transformers and they all had that center imaging thing with more sub low frequency focus at around 60Hz. I currently own a WA273 with proprietary Marinair style transformers by Warm Audio, and I feel they nailed that low end precisely, again, at 60Hz. I'm hearing that 60Hz thing on the AMS for sure, etc. (So I'm pretty intimate with this sound due to a decade or so with vintage units at my old private studio). I think the Heritage is great, especially for the money, but you'd want a pultec style EQ or something to nudge a bit of 60Hz back into the signal, because the basic Carnhill transformers always seem to have a different focus on mid-range and upper midrange instead of that plush slight low end push from the Marinairs. Sorry for the novel, but yes I can hear the difference in a blind a test for sure. Would that matter in terms of a mix environment? Not really. Again you can compensate with the right EQ at 60Hz and you'll probably get that tight low end right back in a jiff (the trick is you need to know you're missing it first, and yes, I think it helps the mix overall on all these examples to have that tight low end).

  • @BladesMusic
    @BladesMusic4 жыл бұрын

    I've watched a lot of your videos over time and I've found them informative, interesting, and entertaining. I don't have any need at all for such a unit in my home studio, but it occurred to me that I'd never subscribed to your channel (as I try to increase the subscribership of my own) - so I did that today. Hope you are doing well where you are. All that said - I think that the Heritage actually sounds "better" to me from the TINY bit of difference that I heard. It also seems that the VU Meters are a bit more responsive than the Neve unit you presented with it. Thanks for the video.

  • @liamhebden8857
    @liamhebden88574 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a lovely video again!!1

  • @architechproducer
    @architechproducer4 жыл бұрын

    I think the Neve glued the sound a little bit smoother, but the Heritage Audio glued it with more air, which I would prefer for some things. Acoustic guitars, vocals and hi frequency drums, for example. The issue with non lockable cables could be fixed with som DIY solutions, but a weird choice of "price saving" imo. I might actually save up to this for bus processing, as it sounded great for a stereo unit with all these features. Hoping to hear how it sounds tweaked.. I have two pulteqs now and feel like those together with this and the great SSL software clones out now could be enough for most of the bus processing. Plus, of course fabfilters everything... Am I wrong, or what more should I look for on a mix bus chain?

  • @Elmex_1
    @Elmex_14 жыл бұрын

    While the heritage might be a good sounding clone, it's crazy to think that something that costs almost 2k euros in Thomann, would have bad build quality (the xlrs, the plastic buttons and the power connector/cable). Weird to have to make such compromises like that at that price point.

  • @rtraktsdn1197

    @rtraktsdn1197

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly what I thought.. like how much extra would it cost for locking xlr sockets and slightly better buttons? Pocket change

  • @carljohnson9096

    @carljohnson9096

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree 100% Feels like a cash grab building cheap when they charge 2400 EURO in sweden! I would get a used Neve for 2200 Dollars all day!

  • @jansonrawlings8169

    @jansonrawlings8169

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@carljohnson9096 Where on earth are you finding a used neve for 2200?

  • @davidjenkins8449

    @davidjenkins8449

    2 жыл бұрын

    the neve doesnt even have locking connectors

  • @ilikemyrealname
    @ilikemyrealname2 жыл бұрын

    I liked how the low end bloomed on the Neve. Nice and pillowy.

  • @aisharpproductions1351
    @aisharpproductions13514 жыл бұрын

    I bought it probably received it the same day of this video release. After a week of using it in my home studio, I see this video in my recommended. I'm actually glad that I have the HA-609 already, otherwise, I'd have to buy it! Ha! (I also own a 33609 N at my commercial studio). I'm very satisfied!

  • @galgogergo

    @galgogergo

    3 жыл бұрын

    how do they compare in your view? :) Listening shortly to the above, I preferred the HA on electronic music, and the Neve on acoustics.

  • @aisharpproductions1351

    @aisharpproductions1351

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@galgogergo -- If I recall correctly, the HA-609 is more aimed to be a clone of the $8k vintage one. To me, the HA-609 has more character, but is on par, in terms of quality. It doesn't sound cheap and that's why I'm comfortable with owning a clone.

  • @theactualtruth4951
    @theactualtruth49513 жыл бұрын

    Great review, the Neve seemed to be more "open" sounding in the high end. But the HA-609A sounds clearer, and had more punch.

  • @muzk8887
    @muzk88874 жыл бұрын

    love the sound of both, love the heritage stuff, am saving for a successor. I notice on the last example of the comparison [on the original] i can hear more 'weight" of lower end harmonics on the kick as it hits, also partially possible to the response of the fast transients (maybe its all that barillium paste they used :P)

  • @rogerfurer2273
    @rogerfurer22734 жыл бұрын

    They sound nearly identical, but I think the Neve has a bit more clarity in the high end.

  • @jellewierda3828
    @jellewierda38284 жыл бұрын

    Just felt in love with the voice of Christine Smith Sometimes Hearts Collide (Epidemic) Thanks Wietse. ;-) HA sounded to compressed and pumping sometimes.

  • @theactualtruth4951
    @theactualtruth49513 жыл бұрын

    They sound close, but I zoned out so I could feel the songs and the original Neve added that extra energy that helped breathe more life into the song.

  • @EandVEntertainment
    @EandVEntertainment4 жыл бұрын

    I was really surprised how close they sounded to each other. Wow.

  • @ezrashanti

    @ezrashanti

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was surprised by how different they sounded and definitely prefer the Neve, would buy it. Would not buy the Heritage. Neve is worth the extra money.

  • @emphatic001
    @emphatic0014 жыл бұрын

    Very cool video editing in the beginning of the video.

  • @facugonzalez9299
    @facugonzalez92994 жыл бұрын

    Excelente comparacion, como tiene que ser, en paralelo con el mismos audio y que hable el compresor!

  • @VOTECHGURU
    @VOTECHGURU4 жыл бұрын

    I’m commenting before you get back on camera to see how our thoughts line up. I’m listening on ear buds but the Heritage opens up the top end for sure and I might be sensing that it has more dynamic range. More transparent overall.

  • @whosfabrice
    @whosfabrice Жыл бұрын

    IMO the difference is huge. It's less the "sound" but the "vibe" where the Neve plays in a whole different league. At 3:23 listen how "awkward" the clone handles the chorus section whereas the real unit just keeps it "cool" and "easy"

  • @cryptout
    @cryptout4 жыл бұрын

    Great review Wytse! I guess for a few euro you can add locked neutrik xlr's and a better power supply connector. The push buttons should also be a cheap fix.

  • @chrisdover8507
    @chrisdover85074 жыл бұрын

    I logged in to comment. This is exactly how reviews should be done. Compared to the original, literally. Well done. If you continue to do gear reviews by including the original they emulate, you would corner the ‘KZread review’ market and get maximum video views I believe. Well done. Compare the 1073. And SSL type bus comps etc

  • @GaragebandandBeyond
    @GaragebandandBeyond3 ай бұрын

    Do you regret sending it back yet? I love mine, purchased because of this video. Thank man!

  • @peterbrandt7911
    @peterbrandt79114 жыл бұрын

    I love gearporn and I like their sttuff. Needless to say, that they're not in my ballgame atm. They're fricking close as well. Thanks for sharing.

  • @peppercrybeatz
    @peppercrybeatz4 жыл бұрын

    Remember boys and girls that there were quite a few revisions of the 33609 which all sounded a bit different

  • @PharaohLawLess1
    @PharaohLawLess12 ай бұрын

    Behringer is soon to release their version of the 33609. I hope you do a comparison video with that replica

  • @velvetratm
    @velvetratm4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting how it sounds when you crush it. That what you’re looking for in analog year, I think.

  • @joost3783
    @joost37834 жыл бұрын

    dude what is happening. loved that stop motion stuff looks so good

  • @BlackenedNL
    @BlackenedNL4 жыл бұрын

    The Heritage sounds like a modern iteration of the 33609, very close tho! A Neve 33609 has been on my list for a long time what a compressor!

  • @Astronometric
    @Astronometric4 жыл бұрын

    I like the Heritage better. I know that the original one does not have a make-up gain, but I wished you tried to drive it a bit harder to see how the output stage colours the tone.

  • @byronkleoyang
    @byronkleoyang4 жыл бұрын

    Audio Depot's Neve is more open and spacey and the Heritage is tighter and snappier. Both would be nice to have in the studio. Use the Neve for more rock and vintage mixes and Heritage for more modern dance mixes.

  • @johnnyvegas2015
    @johnnyvegas20154 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Audiodepot

  • @Electricowlworks
    @Electricowlworks4 жыл бұрын

    I thought the Heritage sounded like it had a bit more upper-mid punch on my system, although the Neve did sound slightly brighter overall. I also noticed the subtle stereo imaging differences. However, we normally run our group and bus compressors in dual-mono instead of stereo-linked mode. I wonder what impact that will have on the stereo field? We met with Heritage Audio at Winter NAMM 2020. They were lovely gents committed to creating great products for the music creator community. We'll definately be racking one of these in our studio! Thanks for the video! - chaz

  • @christopherdunn317

    @christopherdunn317

    2 ай бұрын

    Heritage sounded like it had a bit more upper-mid punch on my system............ EXACTLY !

  • @unitedsouthenterprisesllc
    @unitedsouthenterprisesllc4 жыл бұрын

    I had a little extra cash and wanted to finally get one high-end hardware unit and was really close to pulling the trigger on the HA 609A or HA Successor Bus compressor,but instead went with two Distressors ELI8SX because they're in every studio. I like the HA image more because it sounded like true stereo/wide and the Neve didn't. HA image seemed clearer or brighter to me listening on Shure 1440s. I'm glad I didn't get the HA because it looks like they cut corners like you said on craftsmanship of this unit.

  • @Killadelphia_

    @Killadelphia_

    3 жыл бұрын

    I ended up doing the same thing! I bought the HA 609A. The comp I received had a lot of background noise. Their specs say it produces a self noise of less than -75db & the unit I got was -62db with everything at 0. I sent it back, & this happened for two more compressors. I eventually gave up & got a refund & used the money to buy the distressors...

  • @russwilson2305
    @russwilson23054 жыл бұрын

    White Sea Studio -Hey! Could you review the Neve Portico stereo compressor? Thanks, man -great channel!

  • @rogercabo5545
    @rogercabo55454 жыл бұрын

    3:05 + 3:30 The Heritage Audio compress the BassDrum and the rest of the Musik at the same time (pumping). It seems the Neve compress with several frequency bands. Because the BD is compressed and the rest of the Music stays much more at the same level. That's the difference!

  • @scottydesmarais1032
    @scottydesmarais1032 Жыл бұрын

    Heritage definitely sounds punchier and "more modern" while the original Neve sounds very buttery and glued together! Thanks for doing this comparison!

  • @edupsidedownhead4809
    @edupsidedownhead48094 жыл бұрын

    I have one and it emphasizes the highs in the mid. That is the image issue everyone is noticing. Just reduce -2db in the mid. I prefer it though.

  • @sabrosapurr
    @sabrosapurr4 жыл бұрын

    That's the way to A/B things. Thank you for that.

  • @theCarouselPainter
    @theCarouselPainter6 ай бұрын

    I noticed one thing with all the big brands out there, that budget brands tend to have a hard time emulating: Neve, Pultec, SSL, UA etc... They all have 1 thing in common ; High end control Some like to call it smoothness, etc ... But it's just that, everything around 5khz to 16khz gets a complete makeover and stays inside the frame ! It's not that you don't hear it, it is there, but it sounds good. While if you try to reproduce this with a pluggins or a cheaper unit: it will either sound too dull, or too harsh !

  • @Whiteseastudio

    @Whiteseastudio

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm noticing the same thing!

  • @FrancisJoa
    @FrancisJoa4 жыл бұрын

    As far as I know there are two different AMS Neve versions of this compressor. After which was the Heritage modeled after, that is the question.

  • @MattVorn
    @MattVorn4 жыл бұрын

    Neve is a bit warmer, less sharp, almost more natural. The Heritage is a little sharper and almost too precise to be compatible to the Neve. Beginning to remind me more of the SSL sound.

  • @SoundstarMusic
    @SoundstarMusic Жыл бұрын

    I cared more about the songs in this review! The song at 2:44 was AMAZING so whatever was used on that song..... keep using that! :)

  • @TheStudeo74
    @TheStudeo74 Жыл бұрын

    The difference is really noticeable with the first audio sample

  • @haipabli7670
    @haipabli76704 жыл бұрын

    DAM THE B ROLL DOE!!

  • @finebalance
    @finebalance4 жыл бұрын

    I find it hard to believe that anyone can make an accurate assesement of audio quality from a You Tube video. You need at least a couple of WAV files for comparison.

  • @laynehoward2870

    @laynehoward2870

    4 жыл бұрын

    Indeed. I get a chuckle out of the "I can hear a .27dB difference in the right side channel at precisely 1743Hz" crowd. I'm thinking it's a good example of The Emperor's New Clothes fable. KZread is an inadequate platform to judge accuracy.

  • @doctorscoot

    @doctorscoot

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@laynehoward2870 yeah they sounded pretty much the same to me through all that youtube mp4 compression. to me that means it must be very very close to the real thing.

  • @jeff49605

    @jeff49605

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@doctorscoot I think they sound way different. Dynamics are close, but 3D space and tone are different.I prefer the Neve by far, more "alive"

  • @pyratellamarecordingstudio1062

    @pyratellamarecordingstudio1062

    4 жыл бұрын

    i can tell on my laptop speakers distinct differences. yes you can tell differences on youtube. and yes wav files would be better and more accurate. i may have better hearing than most people though so that might be part of it.

  • @toumbas

    @toumbas

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@pyratellamarecordingstudio1062 nice one.

  • @AleksandarStanojkovic
    @AleksandarStanojkovic4 жыл бұрын

    from this demo I could say that heritage is great on drums because it preserves the transients better. Other than that, I could say that it lacks the stereo spread and the warmth of the neve. all in all, great piece of equipment.

  • @justinbeck8459
    @justinbeck84594 жыл бұрын

    The Neve is warmer and less clear/bright. The heritage is nice tho, just different. A bit more forward sounding although also seemed like the “color” was more audible in the high mids whereas the Neve was more mids-low mids for color

  • @EwaldDieser
    @EwaldDieser4 жыл бұрын

    The clone looks more like a Neve.

  • @j.p.k.467

    @j.p.k.467

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think the design of the Neve-clones from Heritage looks a lot better. At this point they have definitely managed to be one step ahead. They look up tidier and nearly all devices by Heritage fitting optically perfectly together. I really appreciate this. They take the classic look an transform it to the modern age.

  • @shaki.liquid
    @shaki.liquid4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Wytse, could you please share into what are you planning to invest as you said? I think that many people here are very curious about it. ;) Thanks! BTW I LOVE your channel! 🙏💜🙏

  • @MixingMAN
    @MixingMAN4 жыл бұрын

    nice hardware! please compare vs tr5 precision compressor!!!!

  • @HotelPools
    @HotelPools4 жыл бұрын

    Wow they sound almost identical on my iPhone! 😂

  • @DavidRosario69
    @DavidRosario694 жыл бұрын

    To me, Heritage Audio sounds a little darker and with less stereo spread.

  • @sagarchawla8145

    @sagarchawla8145

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes yes

  • @kalidesu

    @kalidesu

    4 жыл бұрын

    I thought the opposite the Heritage is brighter, re-cap the Neve they may sound the same. In a mix you would never tell anyway.

  • @syedarifalhoque2566

    @syedarifalhoque2566

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly!

  • @jeff49605

    @jeff49605

    4 жыл бұрын

    yes the Neve is darker but more coherent than HA

  • @phpn99
    @phpn994 жыл бұрын

    Neve has better stereo image and smoother top end. Sounds like the Neve has a real dual signal path.

  • @LafemmebearMusic

    @LafemmebearMusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gonna be honest there’s really barely any difference and they both sound amazing and the goal is, make it sound good, not copy a specific sound. Does it sound good , yesssss

  • @Feerlyss
    @Feerlyss11 ай бұрын

    wow it sounds amazing on the electronic track. It's definietley not quite as silky smooth as the neve, but that's what i like about it

  • @codylujan
    @codylujan4 жыл бұрын

    One comment I haven't seen yet that was pretty noticeable was the sustain on the snare drum. The original neve seemed to have a longer sustain where as the heritage seem to have a punchier attack and less sustain. I mean, in a mix, the context does get lost so it would be a negligible difference so it's really not a fair bone to pick. EDIT: After listening to the pop song, I noticed a difference in the mid range too. The neve was brighter in the mids and the heritage was warmer. I actually liked the heritage here more.

  • @tommyvaughanhaus
    @tommyvaughanhaus4 жыл бұрын

    The Neve sounds like it has a little more "movement" in the sound. The clone does sound good but it is a little "deader"...if that makes sense.

  • @neuronmind
    @neuronmind4 жыл бұрын

    The Neve has a different and better stereo image and sounds more open.

  • @jeff49605

    @jeff49605

    4 жыл бұрын

    exactly, darker as well, i prefer the Neve by far

  • @theashkone1530

    @theashkone1530

    4 жыл бұрын

    exactlly,clone is more centerd original is round I mean in stereo image and a bit of freq responce

  • @mikeazmos
    @mikeazmos4 жыл бұрын

    Tanks for encoding audio in 128kbps and 16bit....

  • @claudianreyn4529
    @claudianreyn45294 жыл бұрын

    Holy Shit!!! I just wanted to look for this exact comparison and couldn't find it. Then you make the video! You read my mind! ^^ PS: OK, NEVE 33609 - the bass is more focused. The separation in frequencies is clearer, that's why it gives the impression the stereo image is better, but that's a side effect. Above 15khZ on my ear, it sounds little bit sharper, better. Note: I hear this trough Adam speakers, so ribbon tweeters. I would say it worth just if you have extra cash for it. :)

  • @rt5u
    @rt5u4 жыл бұрын

    In terms of compression extremely close, but the neve circuits seem to add just a little extra to the overall tonality or "vibe" of the input material. Its hard to notice but I think Its a huge difference if you are aware of it.

  • @duboracle
    @duboracle3 жыл бұрын

    The bypass button is the most important thing about this device, it produces the most sonic quality.

  • @egor_satyshev
    @egor_satyshev4 жыл бұрын

    The only one thing I've noticed is that the "real" attack time on Neve is a little bit smaller, comparing to Heritage Audio clone.

  • @pepeeze

    @pepeeze

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's super noticeable on the pop song!

  • @papitoredmusic2
    @papitoredmusic22 жыл бұрын

    The bite on the original is noticeable though heritage has a nice smoothing sound. They sound very similar.

  • @RadicalRumin
    @RadicalRumin3 жыл бұрын

    They sound close, I think that without a side by side it'd be hard to tell. Neve sounds smoother, maybe even a bit warmer to my ears. the HA has more harshness, or in some cases clarity I suppose. It's all up to what you want out of it

  • @revelationsoundstudio
    @revelationsoundstudio3 жыл бұрын

    They are both very nice. Due to clones coming out, it forced Neve to not take short cuts. They went back to their original specs and made sure they were providing their customers with a authentic piece of hardware. They got it right with the 33069 N compressor that is now available. I for one would gladly pay more money for the authentic compressor as well as helping keep company's like AMS Neve going strong. Having them go by the way side due to clones is not something I want to see. In regards to the sound, they are similar but the Neve is smoother. That's the one i would pick. The no interest at Vintage King and Sweetwater makes it easier to purchase as well. You also feel good owning the real deal. Plus the quality of the unit including the power supply and controls is important.

  • @chinmeysway
    @chinmeysway3 жыл бұрын

    KZread compression glues the timbre of these two nicely into a homogeneous non comparison but maybe try pushing them harder and comparing the parameters to other parameters?

  • @thedayones4918
    @thedayones49182 жыл бұрын

    Plot twist if you use a mackie the files also sound exactly the same. These people are funny 😆✌🏽

  • @lightafluident.9950
    @lightafluident.99502 жыл бұрын

    Heritage Audio is a great company.

  • @terryedelman128
    @terryedelman128 Жыл бұрын

    for me the original creates that sense of space in the midrange and thump in the low end that makes you feel like you can really crank up the volume without it sounding annoying. Might want some brightening after the fact but personally that's the place I'd rather start.

  • @marcsmith8146
    @marcsmith81464 жыл бұрын

    Is there anyway to get the audio files to this test to listen in the studio and test is against plugins? Thx

  • @gwgw77
    @gwgw774 жыл бұрын

    3.31 ... the difference is enough there to judge it as a different sounding compressor . Maybe the behavior is close but the resulting sound is not . When 33609 came in it was like a different better mixed version took place . HA sounds closer to JD Version ( although JD retains the stereo width of the original ) . Great Video !

  • @MOODOFMIND
    @MOODOFMIND3 жыл бұрын

    The Neve definitely grabs the signal a bit better.. Still an amazing clone!

  • @unitedsouthenterprisesllc
    @unitedsouthenterprisesllc4 жыл бұрын

    It's crazy how so many have different opinions on the sound of this unit it would be good if everyone posted what equipment that they're listening on.

  • @pietromineo898

    @pietromineo898

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think the comments would have been even more interesting had it been a blind test

  • @javierjanaid
    @javierjanaid3 жыл бұрын

    Please sir, what kind of audio converters are you using there?. I think this is an important information you can bring us. Thank you:-) Paying attention to the "lady song" (sorry, I unknow the song and band name): To me Heritage cut some important "air" in the mix, as well as mid-high freqs. I can hear that so clearly in the snare, with heritage we get a more compressed sound so much "artificial" rounded. Paying attention to the high freqs, these "tambourine bells" almost dissapear with Heritage, as well as a big part of the 3d sound . Less 3d, wich for me is an important thing(if I want 2d I only need to use any pluging I can find on the market)Other thing I feel is kick (low freqs in general) sound a little more muddy compresed with Heritage, and I can ear that in the drums breaks parts, where the Heritage "collaps" and make the mix sound much more compressed, 2d(so flat) and muddy. I can ear that prefectly in the chorus: Heritage is bombing too much, making the mix definitely more muddy. And boys and girls, this is my humble oppinion. Don´t forget to do not pay attention to me, because I´m nobody. Have a wonderful day!!!: Here I´m using krk v8S4 speakers and Grado Labs PS2000e headphones with the Rupert Neve headphones amp. (and apogee AD DA)Thank you so much and cogratulations for this chanel!!!!! P.D: this review has being so useful for me. Thanks again

  • @christopherdunn317
    @christopherdunn3172 ай бұрын

    The wall wart reason is because of noise H,A shows a video and why ! but i tried my elite version eq 73 and i could hear no noise when my rack was running right underneath my warm 412 but on a meter it would !

  • @Achase4u
    @Achase4u3 жыл бұрын

    Something just a little softer/richer/Neve-y about the original, but the Heritage is darn close! I would happily use one.

  • @MFASonic
    @MFASonic2 жыл бұрын

    I hear stereo issues with the Heritage, and a perfect image with the 33609. As someone mentioned before, the Heritage performs "better" on quick transients, but do we need this? As far as overall sound goes, I will definitely not sell my 33609/JD for the clone. Yeah, it's a clone.

  • @brianvillage5
    @brianvillage52 жыл бұрын

    Heritage audio is a great company. Keep in mind with the “cheaper” connections and buttons also comes quick and cheap repairability in the event they do break, which honestly is probably unlikely unless you’re sloppy and smashing the buttons and unplugging and plugging it in with zero care. You can’t beat a good vintage Neve though.

  • @shane2973
    @shane29734 жыл бұрын

    If the heritage doesn’t sound quite as wide I would think that would have to do with tighter tolerances between the left and right components in the circuit possibly. The farther away from each other the more discrepancies or differences between the left and right...same reason 2 console channels sound wider than 2 of the same daw channel strips...I dont know if that’s true, but makes sense to me 🤷‍♂️

  • @K_Dallas88
    @K_Dallas886 ай бұрын

    3:22 you can hear how the original retains all of the low end punch while compressing

  • @christopherdunn317

    @christopherdunn317

    Ай бұрын

    Yup ! that song i could hear a difference in low end mid punch increase, the other's sounded fine !

  • @milkpossumsound8935
    @milkpossumsound89354 жыл бұрын

    Heritage sounds very good! The Neve sounds like its a touch faster and it rounds off the transients a bit more in a nice way... I think the Vintech gets closer to the Neve thing than this, though.

  • @treztracks
    @treztracks4 жыл бұрын

    I like the HA -609A🥶

  • @DonClassico
    @DonClassico4 жыл бұрын

    I know this is going to break their heart at HA when you said you are going to send the unit back. Even I felt their pain

  • @ZozillaThaGreat
    @ZozillaThaGreat3 жыл бұрын

    Heritage attack is more clicky , Neve is rounder and more consistant , thks for the video , bypass would have been great from time to time ;)

  • @SeanHyland
    @SeanHyland11 ай бұрын

    Judging from this demo, I prefered the warmer/vintage sound of the Neve on everything except the last song. So I agree with others that said the Heritage would be good for modern music. However, I think with some EQ from something like Harrison Mixbus or other console EQ emulations, you can get the Heritage to sound closer to the Neve (even though it's not the exact variant that was cloned in this shootout).

  • @PalinthePenguin
    @PalinthePenguin4 жыл бұрын

    Heritage Audio had a bit more of that classic "Phil Collins Su-Su-Sussudio" top end fizz to it. The original Neve though had a great 750hz bump on those kick drums.

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