Great video Matthew! Some other less expensive nebbiolo wines to try are from northern Piedmonte Best nebbiolo I ever tasted was a 1974 Le Colline Monsecco Gattinara in the late eighties The wines from this area are more" burgundian" in style lighter body more aromatics Try wines from Ghemme or Carema Vallana Spanna was good back in the day but heard not what they used to be Will need to hunt them down as distribution can be limited

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Yes I’m a big fan of Alto Piemonte, esp Gattinara and Boca!

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

I wanna try that 74’!!! 😂🤪

Amazing, I saw your comment on Konstantin Baum's video about this and I'm looking forward to trying it. I can get my hands on this wine for 19$, can't wait!

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Let me know what you think!

Glad to see someone doing this comparison. Naoussa is very underrated! 2017 was a really good vintage but Xinomavro from Naoussa typically needs 10years of aging if you want to understand its true potential. With bottle aging it develops some leather and olive flavors and the tannins slowly mellow down. Btw, the producers in Naoussa make significantly smaller quantities and therefore those wines are hard to find. Ramnista is a great example but there are some other gems from Naoussa that are even better! I like Argatia, Karydas and Dalamaras. With regards to Xinomavro appellations, you forgot to mention Goumenissa where Xinomavro is blended with Negoska. Chatzivaritis is an incredible producer from that region that will certainly surprise you!

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

I love Dalamara and Markovitis too! Big big fan of all of Naoussa. Thanks for chiming in with this inside info

Just returned from both Greece and Barolo and had both vintages. As you were going through the tasting notes, it brought me back to my tasting experience at Ratti. I'll say that the closed feeling of the 2017 takes a little while to open up but still contains grippy, jagged tannins and much less fruit than the Xinomavro. What I love about Greek wines, especially from Naoussa is their approachibility even from a shorter aging period. Great comparison between the two since that Mavro does have a hint of sweet tobacco that is an acquired taste. Greek wines are definitely underrated.

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

You hit the points 100%!!! I do think the Barolo will be better with time but the Naoussa is REALLY enjoyable now.

@nicolaspapageorgiou5762

Жыл бұрын

Nowadays there are actually two styles in Naoussa. The classic one, not hiding the tannic character of the Xinomavro. These ones require quite a few years of ageing to start taming their fierce tannins. Argatia and Foundi are examples of this classic approach. Then there is the new school which is the work of Thymiopoulos and its followers. These are indeed much more approachable in their youth thanks to much softer tannins. I once read Thymiopoulos mentioning that his vineyards planted on a poorer soil contributed to the softer tannins of his wines. It's probably only a part of the explanation. In any case, aged Naoussas (say beyond 10 years old) are worth the wait as there aromas evolve quite a lot over the time. Note that a restaurant in Boston is now listing a bunch of 30+ years old Naoussas. That must be an experience.

@narrowistheway77

10 ай бұрын

I’m drinking a 5 year old Naoussa Xinomavro as we speak, and Barolo would need 10-15 years to get this soft on the palette 😉👍🏼

Thanks for the video. I'm just re-entering the wine world after several years out of the business. I love Nebbiolo. I worked in a couple of those Barolo villages for producers in the early 2000's. I'm not familiar with the Greek wine so I'll have to do some searching! Cheers!

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

ahhh nice, who did you work with in Barolo???

@rickeaton3085

Жыл бұрын

@@drmatthewhorkey I worked for Sergio Germano of Ettore Germano in Serralunga d'alba and Poderi Roset in Verduno. It was an amazing experience. I also worked in Montalcino for Piancornello, the mother was a sister to the wife of Siro Pacenti. I have a huge place in my heart for Italians and Italian wines!

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Ahhhhhhh bellisimo

First instinct was spot on hey, good on ya for pouring n' checkin' honestly.

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Hahahah yes I was upset I didn’t go with first instinct!

There is a first great Nebbiolo coming from East Germany produced by one of the newest members of the VDP (Weingut Martin Schwarz). It is very hard to get but shows that with hard work it is possible to produce great examples of this wine even in unexpected regions.

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

I heard about that but haven’t tried it! There are a few decent examples in California, Mexico, and Australia but nothing matches Piemonte IMO

Very interessting. I love Barolo but have never tasted greek vines with that other grape. I have to see if i can get that wine in Denmark. I have to try it. Sounds amazing.

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Drinks well right out of the gate as well as other Naoussa wines…

Marchesi bi barolo Sarmassa is my favorite Barolo! The 2015 vintage is the best one I’ve tasted last years. I really liked your video, I also orded some Greek wine (Xinomavro) after I had seen a video of constatin Baum! Thx keep up the good work

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

It’s a great wine (both of them). I suspect that the Sarmassa here will show a lot better in the coming years. In the meantime, enjoy the recommendations and glad to hear you’re drinking outside the box.

@kpwjjwemmcj

Жыл бұрын

@@drmatthewhorkey thanks for your reaction! Im just starting to discover all the great wines from other parts of Europa. Would be great if you made a video of some Hungarian wines(Bikaver). The wines are high quality and really affordable, some real bang for your bucks!

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

There are videos about Bikaver on the channel! Go to playlists and Hungarian wine

I know nothing about Xinomavro, although you have tickled my curiosity, but all of the Barolos I have accumulated since and including the '13s are tucked away in the merchant's cellars while I drink through my 11s and 12s - the 10s are still developing. Five years is way too young for Barolo, with the possible exception of '18. Not surprised you were fooled. Coincidentally, I have the other half of a bottle of '12 supermarket Barolo (Araldica) started on Sunday which I will finish tonight.

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

I often trick people and thought that I wouldn’t trick myself. You are right, the Barolo will probably be better in the long run but the other wine is drinking great now

Great video and comparison. I love Barolo always drawn to it and just recently have been able to taste more of the Xinomavro. Look for some of the new winemakers in Naoussa, Thymiopoulos Earth and sky and Kaifas are great examples of what Naoussa produces in single vineyard as well as organic for a fraction of the price, visited Thymiopoulos and spoke to Apostolos and tasted the his wines and same day went to taste Kir Yianni with Ramnista and then further north to Alpha to taste their Xinomavro... Wow!!! great quality, great innovation, loads of passion, talent and state of the art Wineries..

@drmatthewhorkey

8 ай бұрын

Yes those are some fantastic producers!

I would use exactly the same words to describe Barolo. Best in the world! Let's hope Xinomavros find their place in the hearts of wine lovers as well. Ramnista has always been my fav and knowing that my good friend Antonis is behind the bottle makes it even more loveable Nice comp Dr.! Greeks win again vs Italy after 1940!??! History always repeats itself I guess...

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha I thought of you when doing this. I hope you’re well over there in Piemonte!! That being said, I do think the Barolo in this case will be the longer lived wine but what’s in the glass is what’s in the glass!

Wow, I have a bottle of that Xinomavro wine in my cooler, the 2018 vintage. And here in Sweden it's less than half the price of what you cited, like the equivalent of 12 dollars. Gotta try it soon!

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

What a DEAL!! Is it thr Ramnista or their lower level one, the Naoussa Cuvee Villages?

@peterburlin8198

Жыл бұрын

@@drmatthewhorkey Its the same one you had, the Ramnista. Bet you can pick it up for much less still in Greece. 😊

How do you think this Xinomavro producer compares with the Markovitis you shared with me for Thai food? I saw the Markovitis 2016 is available to me and I’m wondering if I’d be better off seeking out the Kir-Yianni?

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

I would need to taste side by side! I remember sharing that with you. Ohhhh I miss those tomato pies from Jersey too!

When it comes to wine tastings, I personally find that 95% of the time, my first impression is correct. The more I go back and forth between the wines, I'll overthink it and psych myself out. Wine truly needs to be "sensed" and not "thought" about. Now, I have to go find some of that Ramnista.

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

You are 100% correct and it’s what I preach. I really kicked myself in the teeth mentally after this tasting

@nikolajkrarup8750

Жыл бұрын

True. Same for me.

Thanks for this great video! I’m actually surprised you opened 2017 bottles, from my limited experience the tannins are quite biting so young and the wines often have to be decanted for a whole day! With air though they really blossom :) Cheers!

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

You are right but I work on samples and it’s not often that producers or importers can offer mature wines

@Docbyday

Жыл бұрын

@@drmatthewhorkey true that. Barolo’s just one of those wines that rewards patience, both in terms of cellaring and decanting.

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Of course!

@Docbyday

Жыл бұрын

@@drmatthewhorkey Just wanted to say too that you’re doing a great job with the amazing wine content! I especially enjoyed your Catalonia video, it’s really triggering some wanderlust and I can’t wait for finally visit some vineyards in France next year!

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! There’s more coming up

Which 2016 Barolos are the best, based on what you've tasted? And are they drinkable or in their "shut down" phase?

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

I think 16' is a vintage where you are spoiled for choice and to me, they drink really nice right away.

Idk if you could compare them but how bout a Brunello vs Barolo vid or maybe what is really the king of Italy. Blind test Vino Noble di Montepulcianos, Brunellos and Barolos maybe even some Chianti Classicos

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

You’ll like some future content ;)

One more thing. Your description during the blind tasting was spot on, so not sure why you got confused with the call.

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Yes I kicked myself in the teeth mentally after the tasting

@nasos00

Жыл бұрын

@@drmatthewhorkey well thank you for putting this together! You got my subscription! Looking forward to viewing some of your other videos now

Whats the oldest Marchesi di Barolo that you have tasted?...would a bottle in 1965 or 1971 still be good or just ok?...cheers

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

60s can be good in Barolo (or just acid water hahaha) but the oldest I've had is only the mid 2000s

Last time I asked you about Bordeauxs you said that for you, Bordeauxs can be opened at 5 years the earliest. What would you say about Barolos/Barbarescos ? How long would you decant them for when opened young ? :)

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

All wine is up to YOUR personal preference. For me, five years in ripe vintages for Bordeaux... Nebbiolo again is down to personal preference... Some say at least ten years... I think today, they are made well and can be enjoyed fairly young. The most important thing is to enjoy wine as you like it.

@benb5916

Жыл бұрын

@@drmatthewhorkey thanks mate :) . Yeah, I totally agree. It’s just that I have been serious with wine for just a bit more than a year now and always seek for good recommendations of more experienced guys as orientation. But at the end of the day, I will always check if this can be applied to me or not. For example, My cellar consists of a fair amount of new world because I really do like them and a bit of age serves them well too :). Don’t really agree on that a cellar should mostly consist of Riojas, Brunellos, Barolos etc for aging purposes.

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

wine is meant to be drunk!! enjoy your wine journey and have FUN!

Naoussa wines rarely disappoint and this is an understatement.

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

I’m a big fan of many wines there!

LOL The Greeks will be proud. 😂 You called tomato leaf right off the bat. Never doubt that first instinct. You think long, you think wrong.

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

You are 100% correct. I was upset with myself after this tasting… duooohhhhhh

@1949cr

Жыл бұрын

@@drmatthewhorkey thats also an indicator of high pH. Not a positive

That was great. I think you jut saved me 60 bucks. :)

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Both are still stellar wines

the bottle shapes are vastly different. did that influence you in any way, even subconsciously?

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't tell in the bag and I didn't touch the bags, somebody else put them on the table for me. Fair question though!

Hmm, the wine you tested by glas are obviously not from the bottles, because they are not even opened. I hope you have a very good explanation on this one.

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Hahah yes they are, I use Coravin to extract wine from the bottles.

The bottles were so different in height and shape. Did somebody else pour them for you? We could see from the creases on the left bag it was the bigger bottle.

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing that out, I didn’t notice from the back and yes somebody mixes them up while I leave the room, then I turn the camera back on

@sventibolt

Жыл бұрын

@@drmatthewhorkey Great. This was a really good video. Keep up the good work! I bet the Xinomavro bottles will get a boost in sales in the coming weeks...

@Dinfulatub

Жыл бұрын

@@sventibolt lol yes I just ordered it because of this video

tried several xinomavros, non of them were Barolo like 😯

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

I used to always think that until I started tasting them blind…

Incredible...(shades of 1976 Paris!)

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Hahahhahha

Drinking Xinomavro as we speak, so it’s ironic that this video came on after a Chardonnay video I just watched from you haha

@drmatthewhorkey

10 ай бұрын

😮😮😮😎😎😬😬

Who sells Greek wine ? I would like to buy some Armenian, Greek, Lebanese, moldovan wines and I just can´t find them !

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

www.wine-searcher.com/ will be your best friend in most cases to locate them... I have a BIG video coming up about Lebanese wine!!

@wren460

Жыл бұрын

@@drmatthewhorkey EXCELLENT because I am Lebanese !

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

I love the food and wine!

What if I were to tell you that here in Europe the Kir-Yianni Ramnista is an $11 wine 😂

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

Yes I’m aware how laughably underpriced Xinomavros are domestically

@12Trappor

Жыл бұрын

@@drmatthewhorkey And I can buy it here in Sweden for the same price, it's not even domestically.

Is there a cheap Italian barolo for us poor people?

@drmatthewhorkey

Жыл бұрын

HahHhhaha, I hope you are well!!