If literature and philosophy are boring, maybe you might like to read some Harry Potter or go watch a Disney movie to ‘entertain’ you better? They have plenty of family friendly products with a happy ending just tailored for you people.

@CriminOllyBlog

Ай бұрын

😂😂

@LambLiesDownOnBroadway

Ай бұрын

You must be a lovely person in real life. 😉

@cyper3690

Ай бұрын

@@LambLiesDownOnBroadway You must be a very unbiased, nonjudgmental, rational and philosophically learned person in real life 🙂

@passionfruit7617

12 күн бұрын

@@cyper3690 ok mr. rational, philosophical, intellectual, impeccable, superior, and perfect human being

@cyper3690

10 күн бұрын

@@passionfruit7617 Thanks. Good boy.

"He was just a dirty old bastard." Quote of the year, Olly! 😃

@care4animals114

Жыл бұрын

Too many dirty old bastards throughout time, who've created more horror throughout generations

@Lillgull

Жыл бұрын

That was the feeling i got when i read the book years ago. It was disgusting!

@FrankieTeardrop1998

11 ай бұрын

Imagine they put that on the Marquis' gravestone.

@kil44ua43

7 ай бұрын

Wu tang

‘They went from being disturbed to being disgusting, to just bored.’ He pretty well wrapped up current life on Earth.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

ha ha! Very good!

@marocat4749

7 ай бұрын

I mean from disgusting to detailed to just dull and a number, , is scary real regarding real violence, it apearently becomes just a thing, i am sure its part of his genius him nailing the worst of human nature :( , we begin seeing violence as just dull and there

@susanalfieri4487

Ай бұрын

@@marocat4749 Yes, "the banality of evil" as they say.

As someone who had read up to about Day 2 (I had to start studying for a life changing test), I found your description of “horrifying” to “repulsed” to “bored” very accurate. And I think I have like 400 pages left. 😂 The most incredible part to me (and not a good incredible) was the amount of detail with which de Sade describes everyone’s buttholes. Like…why? There’s only so many ways to describe one…but he goes out of his way to get pretty creative. 😂 Great review!

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

LOL! Yes, I've never read a book that was so obsessed with describing its characters nether regions. Glad you enjoyed the review!

@suzybearheart530

Жыл бұрын

Oh man, that sounds ghastly! Good luck with reading the rest!

@horacehalt4216

Жыл бұрын

Just out of curiosity, what do you study that you had to read a book like this for a test?

@kaseythompson5295

Жыл бұрын

@@horacehalt4216 LOL I didn’t read it to study. I quit reading it BECAUSE I had to study. 😂

@marocat4749

7 ай бұрын

he was pretty into anal, it might be just his thing 🤔 most authors put some of that into books. but why does grr martin so much aboutr dicks ,

Having heard your analysis of this book, I can confidently say that it will never be on my TBR. You gave enough detail to allay any curiosity I may have had. Thanks for this video. Your channel is one of my favorites.

@Lucywonderhunt

Жыл бұрын

I agree . Thanks for enduring this for us. I will skip this one

@indamood8806

6 ай бұрын

You should give it a try anyway. Otherwise you cabbot really judge it.

This kind of book is a good tool to learn to portray villains(for those interested in writing horror of course). It shows how to explore the lack of morals, different forms of violence, and despicable people's backstories. It's actually very useful ... if you can go beyond the disgust and immoral atrocities there.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

That is a really great point. And yes the complete lat of empathy is really a defining part of the book

@ailismckinney1750

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I read this book awhile back and it has been a great help when I create my villains. He is a good character study as well.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

@@ailismckinney1750 Interesting!

@Jackal_El_Lobo34

4 ай бұрын

* cough * Clock Work Orange

I've read several of Sade's works, although not the 120 Days--but Philosophy in the Bedroom, Justine, etc. I think Sade may have developed his writing style with the express intent to inflict pain on his readers, perhaps out of a very real need to torture others while he was imprisoned and therefore unable to do so. The absurdly stacked adjectives addressing all senses, the outrageous, near-comical transgressions that are clearly aimed at pushing everyone's buttons, and, yes, the fastidious and repetitive descriptions that end up boring us with what constitutes unspeakably horrible acts--turning us readers into monsters according to our own morals. I honestly don't know whether this is anywhere close to Sade's intentions, but his writings made me think this was perhaps his intention all along.

@CriminOllyBlog

9 ай бұрын

That’s a really interesting theory! If it’s true then he’s still succeeding centuries later.

@skadimons9912

Ай бұрын

I would agree I felt violated after reading 120 days. I couldn't finish the book it was so disgusting

The Aristocrats!

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@laikapupkino1767

Жыл бұрын

Well thanks for giving away the ending ☹

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

@@laikapupkino1767 LOL

@sekenamcmurren2217

Жыл бұрын

🗣Fascist Aristocratic Perverts!

@mindsigh4

Жыл бұрын

@@laikapupkino1767 priceless comment 🙏Gilbert Gottfried tried to tell us! 🙄

My guess is he wrote this book to show the Readers a peek into his mind. I see this book as a gauge of morality: the more this book disturbs You, the less you are like him. For me, I only noticed being phased by the extreme violence in the later parts of the book. The final act was especially disturbing.😖

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it really does get worse and worse as it goes on

the power of the infamy of this book. most of the title of this video was cut off, but i saw the words "most obscene book ever" and immediately went "120 days? 120 days." read the book, saw the movie and i've never known peace again. well done on the review!

Great video! I got halfway through the book, but chose my sanity in the end and put it back on the shelf. Maybe one day I'll stomach the rest! I understand why many people find his writing profound and have a point, but 120 Days really felt like it's just the ultimate jerk-off material for Sade to use in prison. For him to recall times he did half (wouldn't be surprised if all) these acts in his real life and write a scenario where someone could get away with it all.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

I think choosing you sanity was very wise! And yeah agree with your assessment.

It's amazing that people still talk about Sade. I have this odd fascination with him, not with his filthy writing (though I've read excerpts) but with him and the controversy he caused. I do wonder what he'd think of today's society? PS- I recommend the movie "Quills". Very interesting film about Sade.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, a few people have suggested Quills - I'll have to check it out

@thedativecase9733

Жыл бұрын

Ironically despite de Sade's love of the extreme he found menstruation and menstrual blood too disgusting for words. Tells me all I need to know about him. Misogynistic creep.

@j.a.flynn-author

Жыл бұрын

@@thedativecase9733 Agree 100% He totally was a vile and horrible guy

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

@@thedativecase9733 that's a great fact!

@IanFindly-iv1nl

7 ай бұрын

There's also a 1989 movie called Marquis in which the actors wear these weird animal costumes, similar to a Jim Henson film. REALLY strange! And there's a movie titled De Sade with Keir Dullea in it, which isn't very good.

I very much enjoy your educational reads and summary!! Ty!

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you found it interesting, Casey

Happy new year to you. I came across your channel a short time ago and you are always worth listening to. You seem to be a very nice person. Keep up the good work!

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Happy new year to you too!

I read "Justine, or the misfortunes of virtue" by DeSade for the first time when I was 15. There was a quote in the beginning of my copy saying something like "whoever reads this will be ruined for life." Well, combined with the experiences I was having just from being a teenager (oddball older guys hitting on me, etc) I definitely became quite cynical. Many reviewers say DeSade wrote it as a commentary on the hypocrisy of his class. That makes more sense for this book than it does for 120 Days, imo.

@keekaleikai

Жыл бұрын

Could be both. Could be a deliberate crucifixion of the aristocrat class or an accidental one. Either way, I think the point is made that they get away with robbery, injustice, rape, incest, pedo rape, murder, mutilation, sheer evil. This reviewer is glossing that over and just repeating the actions and missing the intent. These monster still live among us today.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

I haven't read Justine, but I didn't take that from 120 Days, or at least if that was the intent I think he could have achieved it in better ways

@e.h.5849

7 ай бұрын

@@CriminOllyBlog I have a theory, that De Sade may have written this despicable peice of crap as a form of payment for privilege in the prison, providing supply for the sick minds of bored and horny criminals.

@CriminOllyBlog

7 ай бұрын

@@e.h.5849 that does make sense

Thank you for so eloquently summing up my own views on De Sade. I also think that, sadly, as he's undergone a lot of intellectual examination, people have rather lost sight of how awful a person he was in reality :S

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think too much intellectualising can make us forget the real harm some people have caused. Thanks for watching and sorry for the delay in replying!

Thanks for this review. I think I will be for sure not reading the book. The part about the crust on the “male anatomy” made me nauseous and then there are the more horrific things in there that I don’t want going into my head. My everyday imagination would then torture me for it. So, thank you.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I strongly recommend not reading it!

@ambermoon719

Жыл бұрын

@@CriminOllyBlog 😂😂

This has to be the most polite description of the Marquis de Sade I have ever heard. For some reason listening to people discuss disturbing books I’m intrigued by but don’t want read myself at the moment has become a thing I do to take my mind off dealing with the passing of my father at the moment as a weird food for thought distraction. This playlist is perfect but again as someone very into history “he was a character” and such really made me do a little chuckle so thank you 😂 I also very much agree from what I know if him in life and the book that it’s not really trying to make a statement as much as just writing out his warped fantasy and getting off… dirty old bastard indeed that enjoyed suffering and shit eating

I have had this book for years...and after your review... I'll have to dig it out and give it a try 😜 I had major eye surgery last week and I have been reading my Kindle...but I'm getting my sight back, so onto printed books!!! 😊 I read "Story of the Eye" last summer...in one sitting!!! So good, I just got it out to reread.

@e.h.5849

7 ай бұрын

so, it's been 10 months. what are your thoughts?

When I was 25 i wondered how the word sadism came from. My ex, then boyfriend took me to the bookstore and took the book from the shelf. I opened it randomly, I almost threw up right there in the store. Knowing he got away with this for many years all the while many royales knew this was going on. When asked if i wanted to get it i declined. The little i read to this day makes me cringe.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

There is so much horror in this book, and the fact a lot of it was inspired by his real actions makes it even worse.

@zacharysiple629

Жыл бұрын

What did the section say?

@berserkerbambi6094

Жыл бұрын

Recognisable. I picked it up in a bookstore once and wish i had not. The fact that this still goesxon today, by people widely respected and revered for their power and/ or glamour. Meanwhile this is the stuff they actually do. I watched Ru Paul's dragrace sometimes, one of the jury member wore a jacket that says "Libertine". Yeah yeah but it's all symbolic...sure...Just his awfull imagination....Sure...

@reemclaughlin4260

Жыл бұрын

When you know you KNOW. Sick world. 🙏🏼☮️

@LarpingGecko3851

8 ай бұрын

​@@CriminOllyBlogYou keep saying that like the only proof of his so-called depravity wasn't one soleqa hooker lying to a kangaroo court in an attempt to extort his family (ie. wife's) wealth. Just because your only biographical knowledge of historical figures comes from pop culture and you can't be bothered to do the hardest minimum of basic research doesn't give you the right to assert yourself as any sort of authority, and honestly you should be embarrassed for misinforming so many people. Dunning-Kruger is alive and well.

They really knew how to write shocking things back then. I would heartily recommend The Werewolf of Paris by Guy Endore if you haven't read it. The amount of sex and violence for something written that long ago is, or was to me at the age I read it, astounding. Very beautiful writing too, but I don't think I need to include that anymore when I recommend something to you.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

I remember MKV talking about that one!

The interesting thing about this is that your reaction was exactly what Sade was going for. The life of an absolute Libertine goes through various stages of excitement, disturbing, disgust, and ultimately, boredom.. that's the message. All hedonistic paths lead to an ultimate boredom and a need for bigger and harder thrills. Its like a heroin junkie. This book is in no way his best. Justine, or the dangers of virtue was far more interesting as both a novella and a play( maybe interesting side note, I was at a production of the play in the seedier parts of Hollywood's the night Princess Diana Died...soooo, a doubly interesting night). Sade's works all point to the ultimate banality of even the most severe kinks.

I read this book my Freshman year of college. The Hell Libertine was probably my favorite character- I always recommend him to people when this book is mentioned. Those who have read it will know what I mean…On a side note: there is an excellent biography of De Sade that was published in the 1990’s, I believe. I would highly recommend reading it alongside this book. His life story is almost a work of literature In itself.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

I would be interested in reading that!

@jonahmad7237

5 ай бұрын

Blangis and Curval were especially brutal and ruthless.

FINALLY!!! Oh I've been so excited for this video!! Oh dang, I had *not* known how much of Sade's writing was influenced by his IRL behavior. Just looked it up and am disgusted all over again... Yeah the 💩scenes became so tiresome. I agree this wasn't written for themes or messages, just for the sake of being filthy and getting his rocks off.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Hope the video lived up to your expectations. I was prepared for all the 💩 following your reports on it during GarbAugust

No, thank you. You telling me about it is all I really needed to hear. -📚MJ

Being a movie buff, I genuinely thought you were referring to Saló at first, and was confused if I was watching the right video. I had no clue this book existed!

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've not seen the film, so don't really know how faithful it is to the book. I get the impression though that Pasolini just used it as a jumping off point

I made the mistake of finding this book. I was looking up banned books. There were some (mostly) innocuous books like Hunger Games and Harry Potter. Then, I stumbled across this one. My naive brain said “oh, it can’t be that bad”. I found the translation online and, oh f*ck me, I saw too much. 😖 I don’t usually have a weak stomach when it comes to books, but holy crap.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

LOL yeah it really is that bad

One of my literature professors assigned an expert from this book, and I thought she was playing a joke on us and we were actually reading something that had been written by a 12-year old who really liked farts. Out of curiosity, I bought the book and read it. Like you, I could only take so much at a time. It didn't make me particularly keen to read de Sade's other works, but I did occasionally appreciate the writing style. I'm a sex-positive person and I try to avoid kink-shaming, but I found absolutely nothing about this "erotic classic" even the slightest bit titillating. And I should mention that I also watched Salo and I steeled myself for sheer depravity. Some of my peers think I'm crazy for not being shocked by Sala, but I found it tame in comparison to the book.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

I still haven't got up the guts to watch Salo but I probably will one day. And yeah the book was a strange mix of horrific, ridiculous and dull. Your description of him as a 12 yo who likes farts is pretty spot on

@e.h.5849

7 ай бұрын

well said. Salo doesn;t even belong in the same universe of depravity that's in this filthy novel.. I might have seen Salo many years ago, just out of curiosity, cause I was really incredulous how would they get away with a film based on this novel. the film is boring, dull, somewhat shocking, but not even close to the original.

Say it with me: "Still a better love story than 'Twilight'. "

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

LMAO!

It was my understanding that he started out as a writer of erotica, without so much violene, but was then imprisoned for that. And while in prison, he was tortured, and his writing became more violent as a result.

@donovanmedieval

Жыл бұрын

Or was he ifluenced by The Satyricon?

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Interesting!

@lily-yi9ho

Жыл бұрын

Actually he was commiting act of violance even when he was young, before he imprisoned. We know that the prostitutes who managed to ran away from him reported him to police forces of the time because of his "excessive" orgys.

One day I was in a used bookstore and I flipped to a random page in 120 Days and read a paragraph that detailed the consumption of…well you know. I assumed I had bad luck, but now I know why, this book is full of shit!

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

ha ha yeah it's definitely the overwhelming theme of the book!

@apollonia6656

4 ай бұрын

Sounds like Charles Leighton might have thoroughly enjoyed certain disgusting "tastes" so to speak !

It was written as a satire against the aristocracy who imprisoned de Sade for their own agendas, political mainly but personal, too. It was meant to be in their faces and intended to be disgusting, along with a celebration of libertine excess. Face it, people are grotesques.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

I certainly agree with that last point! Thanks for watching and sorry for the late reply!

@madelinemitchell104

6 ай бұрын

I've always felt that "120 Days" is not only an indictment of the aristocracy and the bourgeois, but an outright condemnation of all structures of power and control. To phrase it another way, it's a calculated and absolute "fuck you!" to the Christian god, the Church, the family, society itself, just EVERYTHING. When I read De Sade, I'm always struck by his inherent rage against systems of control, rather than a sort of juvenile desire to shock or titilate.

my mother had this book while i was growing up. i have no idea how it made its way into her possession. it was a heavy, hard cover, black book. an interesting read.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

That does seem odd that she had it!

@wexfordrob

6 ай бұрын

@@CriminOllyBlogwell you read it!

Sort of a funny thing about the movie adaptation. Lead singer of the band Korn, Jonathan David, has a KZread video where he is showing what he’s bought from a shop, and right after some really light-hearted wholesome cartoons, he pulls out the movie of this 🤣🤣🤣 Great video!

@e.h.5849

7 ай бұрын

well, the movie is a mickeymouse cartoon compared to the book...

Never read the book but I have seen Salo, 120 Days of Sodom by Passolini and it was brutal. I have also seen the film production of the play Marat/Sade which was intense but not as grossly shocking as Salo. I would be hesitant to revisit either and would definitely not have the patience to complete the book itself. Cheers and thank for doing the deed for me.

@ramblingraconteur1616

Жыл бұрын

Bizarrely, Marat/Sade seemed to have more purpose than Salo. Can’t imagine ever revisiting the latter.

@andrewrodgers2180

Жыл бұрын

I must agree on your opinion of salo. In my younger days I felt it was somewhat of a challenge to watch disturbing films. Unfortunately I watched salo, it was very brutal and hard to sit through. It is a film i really do not want to see again. Also I like to warn you folks about A Serbian Film, extremely disturbing.

@e.h.5849

7 ай бұрын

@@andrewrodgers2180 sorry, but the film by Pasolini doesn't really scratch the surface of the depravity and cruelty of the book. it would be utterly devastating to watch by anybydy who isn't a deviant sadist murderous psychopath. Impossible to make such a movie by actors who have any dignity or genuine humanity left in them. Pasolini's movie has really not much in common with de Sade's despicable scriblings...

@IanFindly-iv1nl

7 ай бұрын

There's also a 1989 movie called Marquis in which the actors wear these weird animal costumes, similar to a Jim Henson film. REALLY strange! And there's a movie titled De Sade with Keir Dullea in it, which isn't very good.

@CinemaMack

9 күн бұрын

It's the one film in the Criterion Collection I can't bring myself to watch.

I read that book a long time ago. I still vividly remember most of the book. It is not for the faint of heart.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

It really isn't!

Legend has it that Desade wrote more as an outlet since there were times he could not act on his impulses, and so he wrote about things instead of doing them. Also, if you read about Desade in any great detail you discover that he was more or less at war with the hypocrites that lived during his Era so thus he was being shocking on purpose.

@doreenarcher8543

Жыл бұрын

Now this is what I was looking for. When people use shock it diminishes the offensive act for me . Their words become ridiculous and all I see is just a very miserable disturbed person.

@dianevanderlinden3480

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I think the books "Justine" and "Juliette" were better illustrations imo.

@raylynlucas5729

Жыл бұрын

True its been a while but I remember reading that a male relative of his was a priest or holy man that was also willfully sinning without Shame all the time in front of him and the family member never really got punished by anyone for it. So Desade came to a conclusion that if a man of God is not being punished for his immoral impulses he was like eventually I'm about to go super wild with it. Crazy though he was the one who ended up in prison later for that.

The four prostitutes recounting their tales everyday was especially revolting, dear reader. I've never read anything before or since that forced my gag reflex so intensely. I'm most fascinated by the fact he wrote it in secret while in prison on scrolls of paper he glued together and would hide it in wall of the prison cell. After the Bastille was stormed in 1789 Sade thought it was lost. He never knew it had been found and preserved. It wasn't published until 1904. The 1975 Italian film adaptation Salo is quite an endurance test.

I've read one of his, Philosophy Of The Boudoir. I have seen the film based on 120 Days and that's very disturbing. It has a darkness and imagery that stays with you for life.If you like horror, that;'s real horror.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the film is one I’ve long been aware of but never had the guts to watch

@allisterwhitehead

Жыл бұрын

@@CriminOllyBlog Haha, probably wise. Psychologically, it's a masterpiece. There's no gore as such and it'll stay with you forever but I would still recommend it. I'm rather tired of being empathic and whilst I wouldn't want to sink to his depths, he is an example or study of life beyond fear and guilt. I know plenty like that, in a sort of 21st century kind of way and life has smiled on them somewhat and I get that impression with him too, despite his imprisonments, which were largely for his publications, not his bodily transgressions.

@allisterwhitehead

Жыл бұрын

@@tomflynn2912 Really? I can't remember blood actually being spilt. Like many scenes in Texas Chainsaw, It's heavily suggested but you don't actually see it. However, It's been a while haha, I could be wrong. I'll have to drag the DVD out.

@keithparker1346

20 күн бұрын

​@@allisterwhiteheadimo the most terrifying thing about the film is that basically you know the end is only just the beginning of hell for those kids. In terms of gore there is none iirc maybe the cutting off of the tongue bit and in that respect it's very tame for an extreme movie. I agree it's far more psychological and political . Possibly the most disturbed film I've seen is Goretesku(?) or Grotesque...basically torture porn

Really interesting to hear about this book. Thanks for doing the hard work for us, will definitely be giving it a miss. Side note - had to read American Psycho at university and it was unpleasant to say the least.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Giving it a miss is an excellent idea

@susanalfieri4487

Ай бұрын

I haven't read AMERICAN PSYCHO, but there are scenes (at least one for sure) in LESS THAN ZERO that practically made me physically ill. So I don't think the Marquis de Sade is for me. Did really like the movie "Quills" however.

I can highly recommend the very entertaining (but not historically accurate) movie Quills starring Geoffrey Rush, Kate Winslet and Joaquin Phoenix for all of your Marquis de Sade needs.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

That's a great cast!

@SheilaTheGrate

Жыл бұрын

It's a fantastic movie, based on a play. There are some great points about artistic and sexual expression, and it is most enjoyable when you forget the Maquis really existed and was a child predator.

new to your channel and definitely enjoyed hearing you discuss this book. i only hesitated liking the video bc i don’t want the alg*rithm to get any funny ideas…

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha I hadn’t thought about that, but yes it’s a good point! Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed the video

Dang, Olly. Thanks for getting this off my TBR. I was curious but now I think I should focus my efforts on other works.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think there are books far more worthy of your attention. Like pretty much any of them

@apollonia6656

4 ай бұрын

How could this book have been published when there was a Law against Blasphemy ?

Really nice review

I read Dark Eros by Thomas Moore. It's a book about Sade and his philosophy. there's a chapter on shit. I read everything but that chapter. I learned some cool words from that book: numinous, saturnine, anima, chthonic, sublimation, telos.

I've been tempted to read de Sade but I've gotten the impression that I would dnf his work - not out of disgust, but out of boredom/exhaustion at the catalogging of preversions and attrocities. At this point, I'm content (poor choice of words?) to have sat through a screening of Salo. I've wondered if Geoffrey Rush's portrayal in Quills "Hannibal-Lectorized" the Marquis - i.e. turned him from a dirty old man to a rakish bad boy.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

I’ve not seen Quills, but but I think portraying him as anything other thank a selfish and self absorbed monster is probably a mistake

Before i start to read any de Sade book, i read the excelente biography AT HOME WITH THE MARQUIS DE SADE that gave me a increíble insight on his life and works; a extreme product of his times, a tiene when the moral of the time was increíble loose.

@greggeverman5578

Жыл бұрын

Interesting

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

That does sound like it could be very interesting!

@rb-44

4 ай бұрын

Yes, that's a really good biography!

Is this the one where he ends the book reciting a list of torture methods that were being used over the centuries in different cultures ? I ‘ ve read his books a very very long time ago and I still remember some of the scenes he writes about and the list . To me that list just confirmed that as a species we are cruel savage error of nature !

I own a first English edition of this book. And yes, after reading it once, that was quite enough. It is beyond foul, but, for bibliophiles, it's a must have.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

It's fascinating for it's history. But yeah I'll never read it again

Oh yes, this one is just horrible (in every sense)! I read his work Juliette in college and thought that had a similar descent from transgression that seems titillating through vicious horror and ultimately repetitive violence. The emphasis on violation of innocence makes it so much worse. I never made it through 120 Days as it became clear it was more of the same. Have you read Marat/Sade by Peter Weiss? Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Olly. Cheers, Jack

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Hey Jack - sorry for the huge delay in replying! I haven't read Marat/Sade - just looked it up though and it does sound interesting

Been on a quest over the past two years to read the most disturbing works of fiction. Tender is the Flesh, No Longer Human, Lolita, and The Vegetarian. I ordered The 120 Days of Sodom yesterday. I'm excited!

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

This one is definitely up there!

I became so bored with the book that I only remember one of the 600 pleasures and that was "a man farts on a piece of toast while his dog watches, the dog is involved in no other way" hahahahahahah I laughed so hard

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 yeah some of them were hilariously specific.

@aWomanFreed

Жыл бұрын

Gotta make you wonder why these aristocrats always have multiple dogs

@ahfei6847

Жыл бұрын

Nous sommes prévenus dans l'introduction qu'on y trouvera la perversion qui nous sied, et beaucoup d'autres, et qu'on est censés laisser celles-là de côté. "C'est ici l'histoire d'un magnifique repas où six cents plats divers s'offrent à ton appétit. Les manges-tu tous? Non, sans doute... "

@francisdec1615

Жыл бұрын

"He fucks a man from behind, then opens his skull, removes his brain and fills the skull with molten lead". Like he just tried to invent the most absurd acts imaginable.

@keithparker1346

20 күн бұрын

A harem?​@@aWomanFreed

It's up there, that's for damn sure!

@CriminOllyBlog

9 ай бұрын

Definitely!

I have read this book. And it is all true - too damn true.

I would like to recommend reading Rikki Ducornet's The Fan-Maker's Inquisition. It is a fiction but it offers some sharp insights into de Sade and his writings, including this catalog of atrocities. Thank you for your video and engaging with this infamous text.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, that does sound interesting

@aWomanFreed

Жыл бұрын

I like you used the word “atrocities”…..wonder if that comes from aristocrat

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

@@aWomanFreed the similarity is certainly interesting

De Sade's book a "Penguin 🐧 classic" 🤣 cheeky.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

LOL

Justine and Juliette are superior works compared to the 120 Days, if for no other reason that they're both finished works. I got about halfway through the latter and decided I wasn't gonna let Sade beat me, I finished it and read three more of his books and while I didn't let him beat me, I still feel like I lost.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I kind felt like I lost too, on finishing this one

@objetpetita

Жыл бұрын

@CriminOlly I'm a newcomer to your channel so I'm not entirely sure of your literary preferences, but you might find some of the feminist response to Sade interesting. Angela Carter- The Sadeian Woman and Jacques Lacan's essay Kant with Sade might tickle your fancy. Edit: I've also heard people say that Juliette can be seen as one of the first openly feminist novels. If I had to name my favourite of Sade's novels, that would be it

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

@@objetpetita thank you! I tend to lean more towards popular fiction than the smarter stuff, but I love the Angela Carter I’ve read so might give that one a try

@keithparker1346

20 күн бұрын

Lol...for some reason I found that funny

I don't know who could have gotten through it if it was finished, it would have been about as long as The Count of Monte Cristo. The only thing that was impressive to me was his ability to keep track of so many characters, especially considering the circumstances in which he wrote it. I thought the "message" was if you're rich and powerful ANYTHING goes.

As you mentioned, the process of reading it in its own shell, the process of transgression via our morals, ideals and everything. We question it, we get shocked, we get disturbed and just as a plaster rips off, the shock disappears from our skin and boredom arrives. Isn't it what happens to a murderer? The first kill is a bad go, and then they get used to it. They get used to atrocity, or like when you live in an environment with all the bloody violence happening, you either get away from it, or watch it until you don't feel things anymore. So this power of transgreasion is truly of use to be studied carefully regarding the fields of sociology, gender studies and even literary criticism. The hierarchial system of power and those who sit on the top positions, get used to this power, they get fed from it. It reminds me of the review of "Pure Filth" which Juan covered about the real goal of the author. I think these aspects are the reasons the work is still so alive:)))) I mean with another reason of being vividly fucked up hah. I think that's why it has reputation , not just from consumers but real critics. It is as worthy as a real work of transgressive fiction. Not just to shock, but make you super uncomfortable about your attitudes on life (in a smaller scale its personal life) and in a larger scale, on world views and even politics.

A mystic told me he thinks the novels are not about excrement; he sees them more like zodiac Gemini mind horror that come crawling with an agenda not just to provoke & disgust but also to reach in deep & change attitudes & perception.

I have only ever skimmed passages of Sade's most notorious novel (not going further due to the feelings of horror the text inspired), but from description, 'Hogg' by Samuel R. Delany, first published in 1995 after decades of writing, could easily rival 'The 120 Days of Sodom' in sheer enervating depravity. Delany is a respected American author specializing in science fiction, but 'Hogg' has been widely dismissed as a work of meaningless, repetitive pornography, the chief character being a child (a rootless denizen of the streets engaging in and subjected to a relentless array of cruel perversions) adding to the sense of outrage this novel provokes in many critics. One novel that is an undeniable literary masterpiece that disturbs in comparable fashion to Sade's and Delany's efforts is 'Blood Meridian, or the Evening Redness in the West' by Cormac McCarthy, one of the greatest American novels of the second half of the twentieth century (having been first published in 1985), which is nonetheless sometimes criticized for the numbing litany of horrors that punctuate the author's narrative.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Those are great suggestions. I read Blood Meridian last year and found it fascinating. I'm also planning to read Child of God by McCarthy soon. And Hogg is on my list to read this month.

The world: Marquis de Sade's "The 120 Days of Sodom" is the most disturbing, shocking as well as disgusting book ever written. Samuel R. Delany's "Hogg": Am I a joke to you?

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

LOL - I am reading Hogg this month. Pray for me

@sailorrupert93

Жыл бұрын

@@CriminOllyBlog I want to sad react to this. Take care of yourself, if you need to put it down put it down. Do not feel obligated to read such things for content or endurance or any other reason - Hogg is the one book I wish I could unread

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

@@sailorrupert93 Thanks for your concern - I'm buddy reading it with a couple of subscribers so at least I'll have moral support!

Same as you. Started out shocked, then grossed out then effin bored.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

LOL - it just goes on and on!

True story.... When Rabbit Howls. Might not be disturbing enough but it is crazy.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

A few people have mentioned that one to me!

I’d like to join (virtually) your disturbing book read journey. Is there a way I can get that list? I’ve read Rats per your review and went back and rewatched your review to compare my thoughts with you analysis.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Hey - if you join my Discord server there is a channel for discussing disturbing reads. I did a video a while back detailing the books I'm planning to read, but that has been added to now so I'll be doing an update soon

@johnmendoza6345

Жыл бұрын

@@CriminOllyBlog i recall seeing the info for your discord server somewhere. I’ll give a search and join. :)

It is interesting as a piece of history, mostly that going back so far - doing it even worse than the other thing quickly loses any semblance of a point, at least beyond a reflection on the writer. Pick out one thing to make a point, and I'll watch the hero go through hell to skewer him at the end 😅 For some reason the description of the book reminded me of 90s Internet browsing. You were always one wrong click away from utter depravity, but I can only assume that was more down to the collective depravity.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Ha! yeah the early internet was a pretty scary place. It's terrifying how quickly that kind of thing surfaces as soon as people feel freed of the shackles of polite society

Stop watching? That's the reason I want to watch!

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

LOL

I have the book as a part of my disturbing collection, never read it but i have seen the movie. That was enough for me, I'll take splatterpunk all day over trying to read this book. Especially when the book is always 100x's worse 90% of the time, like this book. I salute you.

@CriminOllyBlog

Ай бұрын

Yeah it really is an unpleasant slog to get through

HeyOllie, not that I plan to read this one anytime soon, it would be helpful if you included the details of the edition you read in the notes, along with name of translator, year of publication, etc. Just a suggestion for your videos!,

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

That is a good suggestion! I need to get better at doing that.

I might read it in ten years or so. I am getting very much appalled by the vile these days. On the contrary, when I was 9,10, and older, I would read and watch such adult content it's shocking. Have you watched the rest of David Lynch's opus? His work has stuck with me throughout the years and you could say I adore him.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

I've watched a fair bit of Lynch, but not all of his work. I do think he's kind of a genius

@e.h.5849

7 ай бұрын

David Lynch... is he the one who made 2020-2022 movie? Extremely surreal and absurdly grotesque if you ask me.

I'm on page 182, wish me luck.

I remember browsing through this book a few years ago. I thought, What's all the fuss? I assumed it would be some tawdry and florid pornography, like a 18th century version of 50 Shades of Grey. No, it was a manual on coprophilia and other gross acts that wouldn't get published in a Penthouse forum article. A rote catalog of offensive acts, and as Olly put it, what was the point? I suspect De Sade just wanted to have the pleasure of enraging the reader. I decline.

I saw blue velvet at the movies. I was obsessed and disgusted. I thought Dennis Hopper gave a smashing performance. And Isabella Rossellini! Like a fevered nightmare of a dream. One that makes your tummy feel funny.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

It is such an amazing film. Probably one of my top 5 of all time.

@DreamJeanne1111

Жыл бұрын

@@CriminOllyBlogThe Remains of the Day, The Silence of the Lambs, The Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction (I don't know if this would be on the list if I hadn't seen it actually in the theater. Having no idea what it was about), Being John Malkovich. Almost anything with Anthony Hopkins. Who by the way, has said he does not really enjoy acting. The Man who Would Be King and Apocalypse Now. Last but not least, Brazil. Which I actually had to watch like five times before I got through it without falling asleep. So strange, I was really interested in it and I never fall asleep during movies! These are a few of my favorite things. Along with hellraiser and Phantasm. I saw Phantasm in the drive-in movies LOL! Awesome. I'd love it if they'd run a double feature with Salem's Lot.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

@@DreamJeanne1111 Phantasm is amazing! I'd love to have seen it at a drive in

@DreamJeanne1111

Жыл бұрын

@@CriminOllyBlog Oh my god it was awesome! When my father was alive, he died when I was 11, we would always go to the drive-ins. And he loved the scaries. I saw night of the living Dead the original at the drive-ins when I was like five. It was then I had to have explain to me how movies were not real. Mind you we had a drive past the cemetery on the way home. I also saw such classics as the toolbox murders, 10,001 Maniacs, paint me blood red, count Yorga, dirty Mary and crazy Larry, fantastic voyage. I don't know why but I vomited during that one I think it was the butter on the sandwiches my mother used to make. Salami with butter. I know you people put butter on your sandwiches in England is that right? It's a European thing but my mother used to do it. I don't think salami needs any extra grease! And all of those core puzzles attacking and white blood cells, oy vey! I also saw midnight Express while high on angel dust/PCP. Now that was frightening! I don't do that stuff anymore It was long ago and far away. Sorry for not capitalizing the titles, but it's New Year's Eve and I'm trying to catch up with everyone!

@tomflynn2912

Жыл бұрын

@@DreamJeanne1111 I saw Serpico on pcp in the theater, what a strange experience

This book is an inspiration to all

Olly in there ruining his psyche so we don't have to. Godspeed!

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha! Yep

Although Sade was undoubtedly enjoying what he wrote, and was himself a minor aristocrat, this book is intended to be an attack on the depravity of the aristocracy and thier lackeys, and the objectification, by them, of the lower classes. Sade was released from prison, and made a judge by the Directory, after the revolution in France. Also, he was generally down on his luck, and wrote violent pornography for money, much of it from prison. Having said all that, it is a truly disgusting tale, I agree.

@heidifogelberg3544

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but then Napoleon bounced him back into a cell (where he eventually died) after the Emperor read ... Justine, I think? ... Napoleon was not a fan.

Even the cover will raise some eyebrows

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

LOL yeah

I can't get my head around how long the book might have been if he'd actually finished it?

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Too damn long!

@blondthought5175

Жыл бұрын

As long as his "Juliette"--a phone book.

I skimmed a lot of this book and I totally agree that it gets boring after a while. Awful to say, as it’s got countless amounts of horrific descriptions of rape and paedophilia, but after the first few pages, it becomes monotone with very little depth. There isnt a storyline apart from old disgusting men living their perverted fantasies over and over again. Yes it’s beyond horrid but I’ve read other books that have shocked me more because of how one dimensional this story is…. I wouldn’t even call it a story!

De Sade was a man born at the wrong time , if he had been born a few years earlier or in fact in modern times, this type of behaviour as practised by his class, would pass unnoticed and would not need to be accounted for !

The most disturbing book i ever read, especially considering his history. The only book i ever stopped reading for "disturbing themes." He was a pervert and the book was mary sue. It was his fantasy. He did enact similar kidn@ppjng in real life.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the introduction talks about events from his life that were really horrific

I have the book in my shelf but not yet read it .

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

It's interesting....

It is not without cause that the German psychologist, Kraft-Ebing, named that paraphilia, "sadism."

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Indeed!

@factfiend1000

Жыл бұрын

He also named Masochism after the author of Venus in Furs, Leopold von Sacher-Masoch. Leopold didn't care for that.

I tried to read this when i was 14 years old, what the hell was i thinking 😭 Haven't been able to blew my nose without cringing since.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

LMAO! The snot and fart stuff was just so weird

@hineraable

Жыл бұрын

@@CriminOllyBlog I just realized that i still have that exact same copy that i tried to read so many years ago, i literally didn't knew it was still hanging around the house, and the stupid impulse is at it again, HELP!!!

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

@@hineraable BURN IT!

If I were to read it, and put it down temporarily, I wouldn't want to read say, The Wind in the Willows, for fear of De Sade invading that world.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that would be quite horrific!

It’s a historical oddity that sheds light on the French Revolution and the dark corners of the enlightenment.

His constant attacks on the Catholic Church were amusing, the way Alphonse portrayed the state and the church, which were practically the same thing were accurate not only literally but metaphorically as well.

I guess we'll see a run on that particular book.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully not!

I read this book when I was in high school. I knew I was supposed to be shocked by the content, but came away from it amused at best. It was no Lord of the Rings, my high school self used to think. Lol!

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

LOL it's certainly no LOTR

My library doesn't have the book but it does have the movie by Italian director Pier Paolo Pasolini. Go figure.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

That seems like the wrong way round!

I've read it at least thrice, and every read i found it more and more profound, once you read past the explicitness of it all, you find yourself with an excellent study of the human condition, I do not find it disgusting, it's a must read, worth mentioning that Donatien never had the intention of publishing it for it wasn't finished to completion

@dynomyte9357

3 ай бұрын

I read his other works thrice too

The 1965 book "The Fog" by Charles Fox is also one of THE most disgusting books I've ever read. This came out the year I was born, long before the more popular book by James Herbert in 1977, and contains scenes that just defy description, and celebrates rape, paedophilia and so much more. It's lurid, psychedelic cover belies the truly awful tings within, and thankfully not many copies still exist today, and I wouldn't recommend trying to find one, for any reason, unless you're either a serious collector of depraved literature, or in need of serious psychological counselling. I found a copy many years ago in a small 2nd hand bookshop, thought it looked interesting because of the colourful cover, but was horrified by the contents, and burned my copy after reading it.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

I've heard of that and have even tried to find a copy but it does seem super hard to get hold of. As you suggest, that might be a good thing!

@keithparker1346

20 күн бұрын

Interesting as there is The Gas by Charles Platt which is largely enjoyable sometimes funny read of a gas which turns people into sex maniacs and of course it has some wonderful ott violent scenes. Got banned in the UK

If it was just purely fiction I think it'd be more of an easy read but while reading I kept thinking over and over how many of the acts described were influenced by things he actually did irl

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it does give it another level of ickiness

@jessehudson7036

Жыл бұрын

Read any biography of de Sade-his life was hardly comparable to anything in this book.

@user295.

Жыл бұрын

@@jessehudson7036 Didn't he lock up children and force them to do things?

@jessehudson7036

Жыл бұрын

@@user295. read a biography and decide for yourself. Just quit playing the moral authority when you aren’t qualified.

@user295.

Жыл бұрын

@@jessehudson7036 Shut the fuck up, you fatherless prick. All I did was ask a question. Not my fault you're retarded enough to think that's 'playing the moral authority'. The internet never fails to surprise me with it's stupidity

The book is truly horrifying. If anyone is interesting Pasolini’s Salo is an adaptation of the book set in Mussolini’s Italy. One of the sickest films I’ve ever seen.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I've heard that's a tough watch

@rubaidaallen2764

Жыл бұрын

@@CriminOllyBlog Very 😳

@keithparker1346

20 күн бұрын

​@@CriminOllyBlogtbh I think it's mainly because of its length iirc it's around 3 hours long

I can't even imagine 600 obscene sexual acts...

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Trust me, you don't want to imagine most of them!

@karenhendry7686

Жыл бұрын

Yeah! I'm stuck at 599!

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

@@karenhendry7686 LOL

@ShannonsChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@CriminOllyBlog

@ShannonsChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@karenhendry7686 😆

While the presenter talks about getting bored, it reminds me of a book called The Ice Man. It’s a story about famous hitman Richard Kuklinski. The guy was just a killing machine, the book details all of them. I was shocked at first and then, as Olly says, I got bored because there was just SO much killing.

@CriminOllyBlog

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, sometimes it can all just get too much!

@e.h.5849

7 ай бұрын

@DjAboo1 Kuklinski would not have vivid enough imagination to come up with depravities of this caliber, even if he went on ayahuasca trip and done mescaline, psilocybe and LSD combined. You heard about that poor girl, Yumiko Furuta? that's close. Kuklinski, despite being a sadist had a code or a semblance of some morality, though a morality of a criminal. 120DOS is depraved and cruel beyond anything written down in a book format.

@DjAboo1

7 ай бұрын

I don’t believe Kuklinski was anywhere near as creative as the Marquis. The book is just so repetitive about killing after the first few chapters. He was a sick man.

I watched the Pasolini movie, that was enough for me.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

I am kind of interested to watch that because it sounds like it does interesting things with the source material

@barrymoore4470

Жыл бұрын

@@CriminOllyBlog It certainly isn't simply a catalog of depraved acts in the way that Sade's novel comes across (I've only skimmed passages of the text, not continuing due to the horror I felt at the cruel and merciless actions described). Pasolini is actually trying to convey important and still timely messages about the abuse of power and the complicity that the oppressed can sometimes contribute to their own abjection. I consider the film a dark, depressing masterpiece, not a work I wish to revisit, but nonetheless a genuine artistic testament and an important landmark in cinematic history.

Yes we get desensitised to the horror that goes on. It's sad that the youth/people can bash and torture so readily. Because we see it over and over on social media

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that is sad

Have you seen Pasolini's movie, Salo, based on this book?

Read a chapter or two in jr. high school. (Father's library). Was a bit over my head.

@CriminOllyBlog

Жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised!