Can a cheap off-centre AliExpress watch be saved? Is it even worth the time?
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Normally, I'm a 100% vintage watch guy, but I do love an off-centre hour and minute hand. The problem is, I'm not a member of the landed gentry or a trust fund baby, so I can't afford one. I've decided to see if a cheap watch from AliExpress can actually be turned into something I'd be happy to strap onto my wrist. Can it even be serviced, and why does it have two second hands? Let's find out.
Join me as we explore the history of Chinese watchmaking and see if this junk can be turned into something worth owning.
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I would like to see you continue this project to see where it might lead. Nice video and history.
Yes, please more of this project. Would love to see your choices in the design process.
@Saving-Time
15 сағат бұрын
Thanks for letting me know
Great video. I'd love to see the conversion to manual as well as fitting this in a dial sized for humans.
yes, conversion series FTW!!!
I just love listening to you talking about anything that you are passionate about. If you are up to modifying the watch to your liking, I'm certain that it would make a great story. I'm bookmarking your webpage and hope I'll be able to order when I can decide on what style that i really want
The Chinese movements I have worked on (ST36) were all void of any lubricant and had lots of hairs/debris. Once cleaned and oiled properly, they ran fairly well.
"nickle plated cheetos" HAH thats hilarious.
@HannuPulli
20 сағат бұрын
That would be too expensive for those kinds of watches.
Would be really interested in watching the conversion. Terrific result. Thanks as always.
@Saving-Time
15 сағат бұрын
Thanks for letting me know
Excellent my friend, really interesting history and I’d defo like to hear more😁 brilliant news on the new store too 👍👍👍
@Saving-Time
15 сағат бұрын
Thank you, sir That's very nice of you to say :)
Great video, I really enjoyed it! If you were referring to the Seitz pivot straightening tool when you mentioned expensive tools for this task, please know that it’s a waste of money if you intend upon using it for its stated purpose. The instructors at WOSTEP call it the pivot breaker. The one redeeming feature of this tool are the jewels set in it. They’re actually graduated in half sizes, so it’s great for accurately measuring the diameter of pivots by test fitting them in the jewel holes. The Seitz pivot gauge that has the jewels set in a metal plate lacks the half sizes. If you see a pivot breaker for a bargain price, they’re worth it for measuring pivots.
@Saving-Time
15 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the information I was referring to the Seitz tool, I never thought to use it for pivot sizing Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate you taking the time
It would be nice seeing more of this project - new custom dial and hands perhaps. I own ST1908/1904 watch and wondering what you think of it. Thanks a lot for your videos! I enjoy them very much!
@Saving-Time
15 сағат бұрын
I've never taken apart an ST1908 from what i see, it looks like a solid movement, and sea-gull make some pretty good stuff
I love the historical parts of your videos!
@Saving-Time
2 күн бұрын
Thank you
Awesome stuff. Props to Mrs ST for the history in particular. Very interesting stuff. I think anyone working on watches secretly (or not) would love to create their own (yes, I have designs), so more on taking this project forward, please.
@Saving-Time
15 сағат бұрын
Cheers mate i\m probably going to do the conversion :)
@WristwatchWorkshop
15 сағат бұрын
I look forward to seeing it progress.
I'd love to see the conversation. ❤
I bought an Amazon special, just to take a look. $17.98 free shipping . I was surprised to find a good accurate movement. The watch case is of poor quality, basically a dust cover. Now you tell me that the Chinese do not have super microscale robots that make these. Actual skilled people put this together. Now I feel kinda guilty. Thanks this was very interesting 🤔
Congrats on the new store; I wish you success. One question about the movement, are the jewels made out of plastic? Did they pass a scratch test? Thanks for the video. :-)
@Saving-Time
2 күн бұрын
Surprising, but they are real!
@wargamingrefugee9065
2 күн бұрын
@@Saving-Time Good to hear. It's a very interesting movement. It's amazing that such an old design has proven to be this versatile. Thanks for letting me know.
What is this thing about cheap Chinese movements not being properly lubricated? Even Seiko could and should improve in that area. I wonder if the oiling process can be automated as, I assume, assembling, or part of it, is. As usual my congrats for your videos as well as the entertaining commentary you supply with them. Got up early this morning and spent my time watching the story unfolding while sipping my cup of tea at 6,30 iAM. What a nice way to start my day! I hope you will give it a follow up with the planned modifications. Keep up the good work and greetings from Italy. P
try the dulunive watch i have one and its working
Here's a challenge: I'd love to see you design and make your own watch. In July I turn 84.so (intentional pun) the clock is ticking. I'll post a reminder every July until my demise or your realisation of your ambition. 😁
@Saving-Time
2 күн бұрын
so no pressure, then, lol I'll give it my best shot, sir. Greetings from Prague
@markallison4794
2 күн бұрын
@@Saving-TimeHi from rural South Australia. Been watching cycling in Tuscany, motor racing from Austria, and watchmaking from Prague. It's a (vicariously) busy life.
Seeing the video, I'd like to know if those large grooves are only in the plating, or if the base metal is also affected.
@Saving-Time
Күн бұрын
It's in the base metal for sure
@krisztianfrank1345
Күн бұрын
As the movement will be modified anyway, this could be a good opportunity to try hand finish on some parts. It hardly can make the movement uglier.
its a alilange and sohne nice and clean my master always says if you can make a shity watch run good thats watchmaking !
Could you share the company information of your Dial Repair Lady friend my dear Sir? Thank you much!
@Saving-Time
2 күн бұрын
you can find Lindsay here: arcstampfli.com/
What model number is the watch please?
@balthazarbeutelwolf9097
19 сағат бұрын
MG8201GP - I have got one of those. It's not quite as big as was said, more like 42mm case (not 45).
@Saving-Time
15 сағат бұрын
it was 42 i misspoke in the video somewhere around 15mm thick
Chinese faking their own watches is the most Chinese thing ever.
So, typical Chinese quality then
Nice to watch but you talk to much
@BlackCat-tc2tv
2 күн бұрын
Instead of being rude why don’t you turn the volume down?
@Saving-Time
2 күн бұрын
you type to much
I'd really like to see a video of you refining this movement. I find the biggest shortcoming of these watches is usually the case. Thanks for showing the details of Chinese Movements. Good Fortunes and Great Successes 🫡🍻
@Saving-Time
2 күн бұрын
Thank you