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@bnwww

3 жыл бұрын

I bought a Tormek T8 in 2019 based solely on your use of them in various videos. Love your work Stumpy, keep it up!

I keep my tools impeccably sharp by never using them 🤣🤦

The way I look at it, the extra time to sharpen on a water wheel is still faster than the time it will take to rebuild my shop after a wayward grinding wheel spark burns it down. I just schedule some time to do a bunch of my tools, and the wife's knives and scissors. I find it kind of relaxing. And I learned about the new stropping wheel, excellent!

I like the flex vid. People love to crap on expensive machines, it makes them feel better about not being able to justify buying one.

I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.

Videos like this prove why I like my SG-2000 so much. It’ll do everything a T8 can (because I upgraded a bunch), but man it’s like the calmest sharpening system ever.

I swear I heard Tom Bodett talking in the background ,well done.

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

"We'll leave the light on for you!"

Looked like you were creating a glue spreader. Seriously, though, if I didn't have so many other things I need to get, I'd get the Tormek. I'll just continue as I am. Thank you, James.

Oh wow, I have been watching your videos for years, maybe even a decade, and I just noticed your subscribers are up from like 40k to 500k+ !!! Wow, I am so happy for you, congrats to you and the stumpy family. =D

Slow is like big. A very relative term. Thanks James.

@aldosarmiento2063

3 жыл бұрын

I doubt that the difference of probably 15 to 20 seconds for an infrequent operation is meaningful, relative or not. Point is people make a big deal about nothing, and moreover, people make a big deal about stuff they don't know a lot about. Great video!

I’ve been debating on a coarse grinding solution, and this video has about convinced me to go forgo the bench grinder and go with the Tormek . When I added up the cost of a cheap 1/2 hp bench grinder, two CBN wheels and a tool rest system like the Kodiak, the cost was within $50 of the Tormek T8 - and I would still need to hone with my bench stones.

I love my Tormek. I've had it for 15 years. I use it mostly for sharpening woodturning tools, cause that's the type of woodworking I mostly do. I recently upgraded to a CBN wheel for the Tormek, which cuts faster but still leaves the kind of finish I've come to expect from a Tormek.

Awesome video, no excuses for dull tools.

Perfect timing! I´m setting up my Tormek T-4 upcoming weekend and this is inspiring when most edge tools look like the "adjusted" chisel... Great video as always!

Thank You For The Demo!!!! Well Done!!!! 👍😎😃

That final paring cut tells the whole story.

Great vid. I keep wanting one of those wheels. I typically clean up my chisels before use just with wet stones & I bet you could do my whole set before my stone stops bubbling.

Alright, now I want one

Cringing start to the video. All just to prove your point. That's dedication.

Another great video

I purchased a tormek t4 a few months ago and I'm very pleased with it. My knives and chisels are scary sharp. Good thing they included some band aid in the delivery.

I will NEVER go back from my t8. Saved forever to get, but sooo worth it. The backs i hit with polishing paper on granite when touxhing up.

Excellent video James, really enjoyed watching your actual destruction of the chisel and then finishing it to better than new condition. Now to figure a way to keep folks from using the Tormex Sharpening Setup for an everyday bench grinder !! Thanks for sharing with us and passing along this great information. Fred. 👍👍👏🏻👏🏻

Love the music & content.

This video almost felt like you were showing off. Oh wait, you were! That was pretty amazing

Point made Stumps ol’boy and in a manner that leaves ‘them’ nowhere to go!! Silence is golden as someone once sang lol Bob England

Geeze, that got my heart rate going! Good job James!

Thanks James always enjoy your videos but prefer without music

If you have a sensitive stomach I recommend skipping to 0:23.

I enjoy it when you so politely own naysayers Stumpy!

Excellent. Been a while Lake Havasu-☀️ AZ

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

Been a while since what?

Very Impressive I've used your link to get further information on this tool

I have a T8, love it. Now I've gotta buy that attachment- like the video keep 'em coming please.

I just appreciate your videos. That is all I have to say about that. 🤟😎 Thank you

Very cool. If it can sharpen my lawn mower blades... Sold!

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it can sharpen mower blades, and axes, and pruning shears, and scissors, and knives, and ....

That reminds me, the one I ordered should be arriving at the end of the month.

I honestly thought before the video started that you were going to test a chisel against a flat screwdriver for opening paint cans. My wife prefers my 5/8 IBC with 30deg micro bevel. She says the Irwins are garbage and screwdrivers are for screwing in screws!

Bro in law bought one a few months back, modest skills, perfect results.

From a chipped edge to repaired was impressive. From repaired to sharp was pretty normal, still very effective. Tormek is on my list.

Pretty interesting indeed! 😃 Thanks for testing it! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

Great video, as usual. If you only needed to sharpen planes and chisels, would you choose a Tormek or bench grinder with CBN wheels?

Bought my Tormek having seen Norm demonstrating one in 1998 on The New Yankee Workshop. Best investment I've made for keeping blades sharp!

Reminds me of what happens when you loan out tools and why I don't like doing it... Of course, if I had a Tormek it wouldn't be quite as painful!

@zapa1pnt

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe not, but paying for the Tormek would.

@tconiam

3 жыл бұрын

@@zapa1pnt I've looked into it. It's outside my justification level as a novice casual woodworker, but I wouldn't hesitate if I was a professional.

@zapa1pnt

3 жыл бұрын

@@tconiam Sure, I understand that. For the professional (actually making a buck) it's a given.

Noooooooo! Why did you do that???!!! Keeps watching

@johnowens5751

3 жыл бұрын

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That’s impressive!!

Thanks for sharing that and tips!

That was viscerally painful to watch you whack the chisel. Nice vid.

Great job, thanks for your videos

Would you recommend a CBN wheel on the Tormek? Would it make regrinding any faster (e.g. a 80 or 120 CBN wheel) or just less messy due to no water being needed?

Tormek claims that their smaller T-4 system isn’t well suited to plane irons. Any chance that you could do an episode comparing the T-4 and T-8 specifically with an eye toward comparing how those two systems do with woodworking tools?

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

I have never heard that claim. In fact, I have sharpened plenty of plane irons on my T-4. It's a great machine for a small shop. I use mine mostly for carving tools since I also have a T-8, but you could sharpen most anything on a T-4.

@donaldkuell3245

3 жыл бұрын

@@StumpyNubs 3

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

I spoke to Tormek and they said the reference on their website is referring to electric planer knives, which are sharpened with a large jig that is better suited to the larger version of the Tormek. (I have one of those jigs, it's pretty big.) Even though the site does say "plane irons," that's not what they mean. I suggested they edit it, but I can't speak for them or their website. Only from my personal experience. And I have sharpened plane irons on my T-4.

@jguil4d

3 жыл бұрын

That makes a lot more sense.

@jguil4d

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the clarification.

Chisels and planer blades will never be real sharp until the back has been flat honed and polished to a mirror finish, that is just how it is.

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

You are correct, but you only have to do that once. The back of this chisel was already flattened and polished.

OK, here goes! Question not related to THIS video, but to your video a while back on "cupping" and why boards cup. I am doing a cabin project and have some stunning 1" thick rough sawn hard maple boards (4" to 14" wide by 7ft long). I bought them from the local mill, they had been kiln dried and cut. I'm going through trimming the crooked edge cuts, but noticed my bottom stack of boards all warped (cupped). Wood was stored on a wooden slat trailer in my barn, but the floor of the barn flooded and the bottom boards soaked up the extra humidity I'm guessing. Anyway, you had mentioned sanding/shaving both sides of a board and FINISHING both sides to prevent it from cupping again later on a project. My boards will be dado cut into nickel gap and air nailed vertically onto the walls. I'm guessing my cabin will get pretty humid, both in winter from my breath and in summer from outside humidity. It's only 200 sqft. What are the chances of my boards warping/cupping after nailing, and is there a certain way I should put the nails in? I was planning to linseed oil the wood, do I need to do both sides to keep them from cupping?

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

Are you using substantial finishing nails, or thin brad nails? Will there be any air movement behind the boards (coming through cracks in the outer wall)? In the old days I doubt they put any finish on the back side of such cabin wall boards at all. They should be fine as long as there isn't a lot of air movement. At least that's my guess. I've never done that.

Making it look easy!

As a beginner still struggling to get a good reliable edge using those dirt cheap two-sided whetstones from the hardware store, I felt a great pain watching that opening. Well done. On another note, my dad recently gifted me a pretty old fashioned grinding wheel about 3 feet in diameter I've been meaning to get running this spring. Anyone have experience with these?

Great video!

If I had a garage/workshop or even a spare room this would be the first thing I’d buy, I’ll have to stick to the diamond stones for that job for now.

Nice!

This felt like an early This old Tony video

Sometimes I think Frank and Heisz and Matthias should work for you

How do you like the diamond wheels? I'm considering making the plunge but can't decide on a wheel. Im thinking about just getting the 600 grit

Every time I've ever lent out a chisel, it's come back looking something like that dinged up tool. I believe there's a circle of hell reserved for tool abusers.

@aethertech

3 жыл бұрын

A special hell.

@RobertBarth1

3 жыл бұрын

Rule number one of tool lending: thou shall not lend tools.

@christophermahon1851

3 жыл бұрын

@@tungsten_carbideGood idea. I just stopped loaning out tools.

The Tormek is the most productive way to sharpen anything. It's similar to a surface grinder in some ways, just not as precise, and that's perfectly fine considering the cost difference.

StumpyNubs: When you did that thing to that chisel with the screwdriver, you made me shat my shorts. Thanks. 😒

I love it Julien Lamarche

My wife used my wood chisels on concrete floor. I've tried internet search for someone who sharpens tools, but Google keeps sending me to Home Depot & other stores. Any suggestions?

@mtall1331

3 жыл бұрын

@@tungsten_carbide I have metal files & a bench grinxer.

@mtall1331

3 жыл бұрын

@@tungsten_carbide Thank you very much. My grinder has 2 gray wheels 1 coarse 1 medium, I will acquire a fine wheel. Thanks for including the angle, I would have used 15. You have greatest appreciation.

Do you strap the chisel after that by hand or is it enough just with the machine?

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

The black wheel on the machine is a stropping wheel. It does far more stropping in a few seconds than I ever could by hand.

Screwdriver! Couldn't you find a cinder block that needed a mortise?

Very impressive.

Love your “Put up or shut up” attitude.

@jonmccormick6805

3 жыл бұрын

In a nice and easy fashion at that.

Thanks.

Wet grinding has been around, for I dare say, Millennia perhaps two. A shop grinder, even if it has a slow speed, you will still need to cool off what you are grinding, periodically. Speed is not and should not be a factor in sharpening. Now the pull out table racking issue, how do you intend to correct that? You can double up on the drawer slides or get one way oversized? There's a project video in this. Hey we hit upper 60's yesterday in Southern Michigan, what did you hit?

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

I don't intend to correct it. It looks way worse on film than in actual practice. Just like my shaky hands- closeup camera angles make things look like they move a mile when they only move a tiny bit.

On a Dry dirt cheap grinder it took me 4 HOURS to grind out a nick.

As a new woodworker with limited funds, I am looking to find a decent starter chisel set. Recommendations?

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

Narex chisels are the best quality for the money, hands down. I wouldn't even call them a "starter set" because they may be all you ever need: lddy.no/sqm3

Hey James, thanks for the awesome video - I wonder if you have any advise for someone new to using a Tormek who has taken the front edge of the hand plane blade out of square? (Yes, I did it, somehow the blade is super sharp, but not 90 degrees anymore). I have the SE-77 which is what I used to grind the blade (it's hard steel, veritas) and I thought I was doing it correctly. I double checked before starting to make sure the little screws on the end were even, and lined up those marker lines)... But when I was done grinding, my grinding wheel was no longer true, which I then trued up with the TT-50... but before taking off any more steel from my blade, I thought I'd try to see if others have made this mistake or know why it happened and any advise they might have for correcting. Thanks for the great content.

This is off topic for this video. Is there a reasonably priced hand plane that is ready to use out of box?

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

Wood River planes

Good demo. Whether the Tormek is slower doesn't really matter to me. The quality of the edge makes it a no-brainer. Doesn't rely on your expertise, just your ability to follow directions.

Is that second wheel the CW-220, or something else? I thought it was the Leather Honing Wheel, but it's all black on the face and you said it doesn't require compound, so not sure.

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

It's a composite wheel. I think it's the CW-220. It replaces the leather wheel and doesn't require paste because the abrasive is already embedded in the wheel. It was widely used in their T-2 knife sharpening systems (used by pro chefs) but recently offered as an upgrade for the T-8 system.

@Psychlist1972

3 жыл бұрын

@@StumpyNubs Great, thanks!

We're joking about the screwdriver incident, but a few frames of footage is worth a thousand words.

Good video. I'm a recent convert to the system, having recently bought a T4. I do have a question - how often do you re-flatten the grinding wheel with the truing jig? Oh and I love the slide out shelf - very nifty. Thanks Mark

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

Whenever I feel like it needs it. If it's working fine, don't worry about it.

Impressive

Brilliant!

Hi there! I have a question : would you show how to sharpen the macaroni gauge? Pleeeeeeease!!!! Thank you!!!!🙏🏾

How exactly did you change the grit of the stone? What is that 'other stone' you used? ;)

@robjohnston5292

3 жыл бұрын

Great question, I was wondering the same.

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

The block you saw me use is called a "stone grader." It comes with the machine and with it you can change the grit of their standard stone wheel from about 220 to about 1000. One side of the stone grader is rough, and with it you can "dress" or "rough up" the surface of the wheel so it cuts more aggressively. The other side of the stone grader is more fine, and with it you can smooth or "glaze" the surface of the wheel for a finer surface. You can even get surfaces somewhere in between 220/1000 with practice. It seems like it would wear the wheel out faster, but it really does very little. I use it regularly, switching from fine to course while sharpening various tools. It's actually a very clever idea!

@lukafilm

3 жыл бұрын

@@StumpyNubs Brilliant! I didn't know such a thing existed. Thanks a lot for the answer!

I love my Tormek t8

Perhaps not the best question on a sponsored video, but which is preferable: Tormek or CBN wheel on a slow-speed bench grinder?

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

A bench grinder with CBN wheels is a great solution for coarse grinding. Those who like to sharpen with stones would benefit from a CBN/grinder setup when they need to do more aggressive work. Wood turners who like a coarse-grind will as benefit from that setup as well. But it is not an all-in-one solution for every situation. For chisels, plane irons, knives and other fine edges (including skews and fine turning tools), you have to follow up a CBN/grinder with finer sharpening gear, either stones or something else. The Tormek will do both grinding and sharpening and is the most versatile solution for those who like a power system and require a keener edge.... Either way, the best part of the Tormek is the precise jigs that reduce the amount of steel that must be removed because thee setting are repeatable. Those who do use a bench grinder with CBN wheels can still use the Tormek jigs with the proper bar attachment.

Impressive!

I sure like mine. I’ve had it for close to twenty years.

Why did you start grinding at 30 degrees and not 25? Whats the angle you used on that awesome looking micro bevel if you started at 30 degrees?

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

The microbevel isn't really all that different. It is just polished by the stropping wheel. Maybe it's a degree higher, the strop doesn't really remove enough steel to alter the angle much.

@1803cannon

3 жыл бұрын

@@StumpyNubs I’ve got a Tormek. I’ve has it for about 10 years. I have recently switched to Veritas honing guides. They’re basically idiot proof and takes about 2 minutes to touch up that micro bevel. You should give them a looksy lou.

@1803cannon

3 жыл бұрын

@@StumpyNubs

Stumpy, you can never borrow any of my chisels.

@bobvogel9916

3 жыл бұрын

Why? He'd return them super sharp. :-)

Nice James. But I do more than cringe. Another excellent vid brother.

You need to demo the TORMEK BM100 jig that you setup at your normal bench grinder. It lets you use all the Tormek jigs at a the standard bench grinder for a heavier grind and then touch up on the wet stone if needed or available, great for turners. Even better if you want a great system and already have an 8inch grinder and can’t justify the wet stone cost, just buy the jigs and use your own grinder and one day move up to the Tormek grinder. Win Win

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

I have :)

@cooperken11

3 жыл бұрын

No worries, I must of missed that one. Thanks for all the great video’s.

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

We did a review on the Tormek bar years ago when it first came out. I think it was in an old episode of "Behind the Sawdust." We also used the bar in the footage for our CBN wheel tutorial: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e4OMusuJe5SyZNY.html

jeebus kribs i might just have to get one of those

I bought one for my turning tools(t4). I don't regret it but if I could do it again I'd get the t7 or better yet the Sorby sharpening system. My friend has one. So yeah, I regret it. But only a little. I'm going to make my own custom wheel with Corian counter top and a sanding belt. Kinda like how John Heinz did but better. Then it'll become as good or better than the Sorby. I'll definitely make a video.

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not as much of a fan of the Sorby system because it is sandpaper-based. That generates more heat, more metal dust in the air to breath, and it produces a flat grind, which I am not a fan of, especially for turning gouges. But those are just my opinions :)

I don't have a grinding wheel....do you have a video for doing this with just whetting stones? I do it but never sure I am really doing it right (although it seems to work).

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I would not want to take a chip out of a tool edge by hand. I would use at least a bench grinder. But, if I had to do it manually I would get some coarse sandpaper (maybe 40 grit) and use spray glue to hold it on a flat surface (cast iron, granite, plate glass, a marble floor tile). After the chip was gone, I would work my way up through the grits never jumping more than 50% in grit number.

@sullyprudhomme

3 жыл бұрын

@@StumpyNubs I will remember that next time I take a hammer to my chisel! Thanks!

The heat from grinding on a bench grinder can affect the temper on your chisels steel.

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4J-1JeBdJi2lZs.html

What synthetic wheel is that?

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

It's a composite wheel. I think it's the CW-220. It replaces the leather wheel and doesn't require paste because the abrasive is already embedded in the wheel. It was widely used in their T-2 knife sharpening systems (used by pro chefs) but recently offered as an upgrade for the T-8 system.

Just bought a cheaper set up wish I had a tormack

If pine is the softest wood that we typically work with, and not very commonly either, why do we also show the sharpness of a chisel on it? I want to see how a sharp chisel works on some hard woods so I can compare my results to someone like yourself.

@syninys100

3 жыл бұрын

Pine may be soft, but it's very uneven in its hardness. The dark orange lines are significantly harder than the paler bits. This means that it's very easy to compress the softer parts, rather than cut them. Particularly when paring directly across the end grain, as was done here. This tendency to compress rather than cut is what lets one judge the sharpness to a pretty fine degree. Harder woods have more resistance to compressing, so one can get away with a less sharp chisel without it being visually obvious - one can supply more force behind the cutting edge than with a softwood. You'd still feel that in use, but that doesn't work as well for a visual demonstration as the softwoods do.

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

I test on pine because it is so soft that a chisel must be very sharp to cut cleanly across the end grain without tearing or smashing the fibers. If you can get a thin shaving and leave a smooth surface on pine end-grain, it is sharp enough for any hardwood!

Tormeks may be expensive but time savings will it pay off. I regret selling mine a few years ago.

If memory serves, you once touted CBN wheels also. Do you prefer the Tormek to CBN wheels for the grinder?

@StumpyNubs

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't "once tout CBN wheel," I actively recommend them for those who use bench grinders. We've made several videos on that subject and will surely make more in the future. We make videos for a wide variety of viewers, and it serves them well when we discuss different options... To answer your question: A bench grinder with CBN wheels is a great solution for coarse grinding. Those who like to sharpen with stones would benefit from a CBN/grinder setup when they need to do more aggressive work. Wood turners who like a coarse-grind will as benefit from that setup as well. But it is not an all-in-one solution for every situation. For chisels, plane irons, knives and other fine edges (including skews and fine turning tools), you have to follow up a CBN/grinder with finer sharpening gear, either stones or something else. The Tormek will do both grinding and sharpening and is the most versatile solution for those who like a power system and require a keener edge.... Either way, the best part of the Tormek is the precise jigs that reduce the amount of steel that must be removed because thee setting are repeatable. Those who do use a bench grinder with CBN wheels can still use the Tormek jigs with the proper bar attachment.

@marshallmurrell4583

3 жыл бұрын

@@StumpyNubs Thank you for the very thoughtful response. That clarified things well. Best regards.