For anyone wondering, the 2023 Wilderness does not have a pinch weld around the spare area like his does, so the Ultraswing fits perfectly without having to bend anything. Also, we have the factory suspension with 245/65R17 BFG K02's and Motegi MR118s, there is maybe the tiniest bit of suspension sag but it probably wouldn't really be noticeable if you weren't really looking for it.

@roamingwithjosh

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. I’ll pin this comment to the top for people to see.

@aberolick7857

Жыл бұрын

my 2023 OBW absolutely DOES have this pinch weld around the rear wheel well ... my guess is you don't have the OEM hitch if the pinch weld is not an issue for you.

thank you for going in depth with this. alot of info here that can help people considering this over other tire hitches

@roamingwithjosh

10 ай бұрын

Appreciate the comment and am glad it was helpful!

Outstanding review!! I especially appreciate the honest assessments. Please make more!🎉🎉

@roamingwithjosh

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Man, you have the best OBW rig I've seen so far! Looking forward to what else you have planned for her!

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

You used an impact? You should have used a torque wrench set at 100lbs as the instructions say. The rattle is clearly coming from the pinch weld sheet metal that you bent, its rubbing on the front of the mount where the wedge is, you can actually see it touching in the video. Also, there should be two 5/8 pin holes, it looks like you pushed it in too far, use the forward (first) hole and don't push in it that far.

@roamingwithjosh

2 ай бұрын

Thanks

How high up on the carrier did you mount the wheel plate?

Thanks for the review.

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

No worries!

That beast is really coming along awesome Bro.

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, dude!

So the wedge system is similar to the steering wheel stem on a bike. I get it.

Hey Josh, it's Mark @palubaru_adventures. Great video as usual. I went with the DirtCom trail swing and absolutely love it. BUT, for those that purchase it, you cannot just simply bend the pinch weld out of the way because their wedge system tightens from the rear, not the front like the Rig'd version. I had to notch and box in a space into the tire tub to make it work. I have pics on my Instagram for those wanting to see it. I too am looking for way to relocate the rear cam. I don't want to do a separate aftermarket camera and display. Surely there is a way to get it done. PLEASE keep us informed. Great content man. Hope to see it in person some day.

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

Right on! I appreciate the comment and if I come up with something decent I will definitely share it. Would love to hit some trails one day!

@kungfuactionjesus21

Жыл бұрын

@MarkPalacios Hey Mark, what were the dimensions of the fabricated piece of metal you made for the tub? I have a dirtcom trail swing coming in about a month and will need to do this on my wilderness. Im really glad I saw your comment here or I would've never known!

Hey Josh, What's your experience with the back up camera or the Reverse Automatic Braking system with the Ultra Swing? Thanks. I have an OBW coming in Feb 23

@roamingwithjosh

Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the OBW! Back up camera with any tire carrier is pretty much useless and I haven't found a good way to re-locate the camera yet to make it usable. That's a huge downside to having larger tires and needing a tire carrier. I turned the RAB system off long ago when I was carrying my mountain bike and had the emergency brake lock up on me backing out of the garage. My best advice would be do the same when you have anything attached to the rear of the car.

Im just planning to squeeze my spare into the oem compartment until a back up cam is integrated into the spare carrier. But how do the additions affect your OBW's fuel economy?? Just the tires and lift have already made a noticeable difference for me and since this is also my daily driver im trying to balance my setup between being fuel efficient as well as capable without having to take off of swap aspects of my setup when we are overlanding

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

We are currently at 19.2 MPG with this setup and honestly we didn't lose much going with the lift and the spare tire carrier. We were getting 19.8 before we put the lift or carrier on. I'm pretty impressed with that. Thanks for the comment, Marquis!

How did you secure the aux light controller? Did you have to drill into the dash?

@roamingwithjosh

4 ай бұрын

Used double sided 3M tape and pressed it onto the dash. Never fell off a single time.

Anything you saw that is lighter?

It looks great on there!

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Travis!

Was going to install a dirt swing out on my forester but I got a bigger tire and was able to fit it in the stock spare location. Not a fan of losing the crosstraffic alerts and rear camera so I’m gonna opt out of this one

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

Makes total sense!

Was looking at the Rig'D for a little bit a while back, ended up getting the Dirtcom Trailswing, and I will be setting mine up essentially the same way as yours once I get it with the rotopax off to the side, and a fold out table. It's a bit more expensive starting at 1,750, but I like the benefits that it has over the Rig'd and Wilco tire carriers. Definitely gonna be annoying without the backup camera though, but I can live without it.

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

I never even heard about the dirtcom swing until the comments in this video. I’m going to have to check them out. I’m in the same boat with the rear camera, I can live without it to have the other things I want. Thanks for the input!

I've been looking at the Dirtcom Trailswing but the price...WOW. Now that I think about it the stuff I put in my spare tire compartment might weigh less than the spare tire itself?? I wonder if some type of enclosed aluminum storage box in place of the tire (maybe with with shelves?) be a better option for me? ** A swing out storage box... there must be one available somewhere. ** Can anyone link me? **

@kcrush1

2 жыл бұрын

I have the Dirtcom swing out. It’s pricey, but so worth the money. High quality parts & workmanship.

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

I never even thought to out a storage box back there, that’s definitely a good idea. Maybe we can get someone to fabricate something and see how it works?

@getsickwiddit

2 жыл бұрын

You wont like the price on these either lol. You might be able to buy a swing out hitch adapter for cheaper (around $380) and find a way to get your own box on there. There are quite a few hitch accessories that swing out and are customizable for your needs (bikes, cargo boxes, cargo baskets, skii racks, ect...) Here is a link for the actual item you were asking about. www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Cargo-Carrier/Yakima/Y62VR.html?feed=npn&Google%20%7C%20Shop%20-%20Hitch%20Cargo%20Carrier&adgroupid=92297485840&campaignid=202962497&creative=411634353747&device=c&devicemodel=&feeditemid=&keyword=&loc_interest_ms=&loc_physical_ms=9031933&matchtype=&network=g&placement=&position=&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4PKTBhD8ARIsAHChzRLWc1QPpY0WWnIuvcC1ZG3XrOwUWiuKydUO5Hun2dny-iZK0otJbxoaAuzcEALw_wcB You can even double up and go for 2!! lol. www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Cargo-Carrier/Yakima/Y74ZR.html

I understand the need for this with an SUV, or a midsize pickup. I opted not to spring for it for my F-150- I’ve got my spare vertical in the front of the bed and it’s just fine. The weight savings, not losing the backup camera, and especially the price are all huge dealbreakers. $2000 for a tire carrier?! C’mon.

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

I totally get your point and having that extra space in the bed makes a huge difference. The cameras in the Subaru are absolute garbage so luckily I'm not missing too much of anything on that front. I appreciate the input!

Hey Josh, I am wondering if you have already fixed the problem of back up camera yet? Could you share your solution when you done? I am planning to buy the ultra swing for my OBW too but back up camera means a lot to me.

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

I have not had the time to dig into that yet, it it’s on the list!

@mafeeku6404

2 жыл бұрын

@@roamingwithjosh looking forward to see that！

I wish instead of that table, there was a slim box that would hold a double burner stove and some small storage. I want to it to be ready to cook. Instead of the fuel packs I would have a water can for drinking and cleaning. Ewwww, you just said it sags the car, is it sagging without the tire on? I don't intend to use it as a tire carrier. Sagging would screw the look.

Hi, Josh. Do you have a factory trailer hitch? If not, what do you have on?

@roamingwithjosh

Жыл бұрын

I do have a factory hitch. Installed by Subaru.

if you air down your spare tire, then you need an air compressor to fill it up when you got a flat lol

I'd start looking for scratch's on area's that are rubbing causing the noises. Some foam insulation or rubber spacers should help. For me the elephant in the room is, do you plan on using the table to cook on???

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

The noise was an unseated strut bolt. I got everything pulled apart and fixed. LOL I will not be cooking next to gas I promise!

@tpseeker3367

2 жыл бұрын

Ohhhh good catch finding that strut bolt. Now that you've beefed the OB up & all the extra weight have you thought about a trans & oil cooler yet @@roamingwithjosh ?

Would you say you can keep the tire on for a week out of the month?

@roamingwithjosh

Жыл бұрын

If the atmospheric pull is aligned with your chakra, then yes.

there any sag from extra weight, with the new lift ?

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

Zero sag and even when I put the camper on the hitch there's still no noticeable sag!

What kind of cross bar your using?

@roamingwithjosh

Жыл бұрын

cross bar?

Rigged should come up with an app and when your phone is connected to the vehicle via Bluetooth and you put it in reverse it pops up on your phone to view backup camera. You could just mount your phone on your dash and they could sell the camera and universal mounting bracket

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

That’s literally genius.

@justinflott5133

2 жыл бұрын

@@roamingwithjosh - lol thanks. It would be pretty slick

I know you've been busy just wondering If you heard of any new ideas for relocation of the camera for your outback.

@roamingwithjosh

Жыл бұрын

I got nothing for that. Sorry!

@anthonyfavela8345

Жыл бұрын

No worries, Thanks for all the good info I love my ultra swing.😁✌

What about the rear camera???

@roamingwithjosh

Жыл бұрын

It’s obsolete with this tire carrier.

It’s a great spare tire solution and more… so it may be rated for 10,000 lbs towing but the OB Wilderness I believe is limited to 3,500 lbs. and I think the tongue weight limit is 350 lbs. if so, does not the weight of this spare tire rack and options and gas filled cans all add up and use up some of that rating leaving little left to actually be able to tow anything?

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a really good question and I would have to do some digging to get that answer.

@kimmyyimmel2010

Жыл бұрын

that tongue weight sounds way too low but ignoring that the way it works is the upper limit of your towing is still going to be 3,500

@richardburguillos3118

Жыл бұрын

@@kimmyyimmel2010 yes the tow weight doesn’t change but I would think the amount of weight what your towing puts downward on the tongue cannot be ignored.

@kimmyyimmel2010

Жыл бұрын

@@richardburguillos3118 tru, but im not sure what the outback tongue weight is off the top of my head so i decided not to talk about it

People would like to see the outback

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

People would like to see the tire carrier also. Decision decisions...

First time seeing one of your videos. If you can back out of that tight garage, you don't need the camera 😉👍

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

Lolol thank you!

Mine don't rattle or make any noise.

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

Mine doesn’t either after making adjustments.

Thanks Josh! This Country was built by home grown businesses. Our founding Fathers are smiling at you…

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

As an owner of several small businesses, I get it and respect it!

I remember one of the reasons you sold your wife's wrangler was to save money on gas??...I think you've spent more on this thing and it will never be as capable as the wrangler

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

We’ve definitely spent a good amount, but we’re happy with the compromise and if we wanted another jeep we could get one, it’s just not realistic for us considering we have the power wagon. Thanks for the input!

Way too heavy and expensive for what it is. I’ll build my own from aluminum stock.

@roamingwithjosh

2 жыл бұрын

Love to see what you come up with for it!

Too longwinded

@roamingwithjosh

Жыл бұрын

thanks for the comment!