I checked these verses against my Revised Standard Version Second Catholic Edition (Great Adventure Bible from Ascension; Bible in a Year Podcast) and was relieved to find it much better aligned to the traditional text. It is not perfect, but the mistranslations that bothered me the most were fixed. That said, this is enough for me to ensure I have a DR bible available for study.

I respectfully disagree with some of brethren in the comments. A trash can is precisely where such an abomination masquerading as the Word of God belongs!

Having spent a lot of time with both translations, I would say they both have problems but the NABRE is better. They are both products of quasi-modernist textual criticism but the NABRE has three things going for it, in my opinion: 1. It retains a lot of "Amen" statements of Our Lord instead of translating them as "truly" or "assuredly." 2. It retains several "I am" statements of Our Lord in the text, or points them out in the footnotes so they are not lost. 3. Where it uses "inclusive" language, it does so much more carefully than the NRSV, which puts eliminating male pronouns ahead of accuracy in numerous places. Peace.

I don’t think you should put a trash can image on a bible Please respect the Bible God bless❤️❤️❤️

@sandygrogg1203

3 жыл бұрын

But... the image is effective.., That’s where the source was found..

The Protestant King James Version translates Isaiah 7:14 The Virgin shall conceive.., The Douay Rheims and the KJV are similar (But I prefer the Douay Rheims)

I have the Ignatius Press Didache Bible that I think uses the second RSV-CE and I know some of the issues cited in the video do not exist. I just read the verse where it says the demon can only be driven out by prayer and fasting. So I’m wondering if the second edition is better (although I know, as you state, the Douay-Rheims is the approved translation. I bought that Bible before I knew some of these things. Though I sometimes personally have trouble with some of the old fashioned language and so do my kids. So it would be nice to have a good version that might be more accessible without changing the message!). Maybe you’ve already done a video on this and I haven’t found it yet.

@ascentofmountcarmel438

2 жыл бұрын

The Knox Bible is a translation of the Vulgate and uses more modern language.

@AJ-hk6tv

2 жыл бұрын

@@ascentofmountcarmel438 I haven’t heard of that one before. I will check it out. Thank you!

Maybe when you read Luke 1:28 you should keep reading to Luke 1:42 and see what you come up with.. When Mary visits Elizabeth she tells her “Most blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb” .. A scribe or someone inserted that which is from 1:42 into 1:28 at a later time, Older manuscripts do not have it in that location but it still is in 1:42 .. So nothing is lost.

King James seems more "Catholic" than either NRSV or NAB. Both these "bibles" are modernist from page 1 to the end. Not Catholic at all.

@ascentofmountcarmel438

6 жыл бұрын

I think that you're right.

I went to my local catholic church today. The church of mt. Carmel. I asked them what bible they use currently and they said the NAB so i bought a copy. The night before i ordered 3 different bibles from amazon (KJV, NABRE, and the NRSV Versions). I dont know much about any of the versions so i started to do research and came upon your video. I currently have 4 bibles now 😂 NAB, NABRE, KJV, and NRSV are any of the 4 i have a good read or should i get a 5th version? I currently pray the rosary and would like a bible that goes with that also. I dont mind old english. Any suggestions?

@ascentofmountcarmel438

3 ай бұрын

I suggest that you purchase another one. The Douay Rheims Bible. That version is a translation of the Vulgate, which is the official Bible of the Catholic Church.

@thecreeper6799

3 ай бұрын

@@ascentofmountcarmel438 thank you for responding! I will get another. Thank you!

The NRSV is awful. The RSVCE2 is pretty decent, so of course nobody will ever hear it from the pulpit.

It's very well known at this point that the vulgate had many errors. The NAB is pretty bad but forever using the vulgate as the ultimate measure seems like a bad idea.

@ascentofmountcarmel438

5 жыл бұрын

" "It's very well known at this point that the vulgate had many errors." ...For instance?

@cl9826

5 жыл бұрын

@@ascentofmountcarmel438 the vulgate is now known to include mistranslations whereas the NAB and NRSV were translated from the earliest known texts in their original languages. I agree they are uninspiring but you are actually comparing these Bibles for accuracy the wrong way around.

@ascentofmountcarmel438

5 жыл бұрын

@@cl9826 That's not true and I address that fact in these videos.

pretty sad that a protestant bible like the King James is better than what is supposed to be a "catholic" bible

Why do you show the RSV-CE and not the NSRV-CE in the video?

You're taking Isaiah 7:14 out of context. If you read the entire chapter, the context is Isaiah urging King Ahaz of Judah to hold fast to faith in God, rather than trying to make peace with the northern kingdom (Israel) that was threatening to invade. The sign which is described starting in verse 14 is that when the boy Immanuel, soon to be born of the "alma" (virgin/young woman in Hebrew), reaches a certain age, Israel will have been destroyed by Assyria, and it is Assyria that will then be threatening at Judah's doorstep. Contrary to Chrysostom, interpreting "alma" in the sense of "young woman" rather than "virgin" does not reduce the impact of the sign; sure, young women give birth all the time, but that is not the main part of the sign, it is an illustration of how quickly Israel will fall to Assyria (i.e. within the few years of Immanuel's childhood). The Fathers of the Church should be taken seriously but they are not infallible. The Church (along with Protestants and Orthodox, as all of us believe in the Virgin Birth) has interpreted this chapter as referring to the Virgin Birth of Jesus, and the name Immanuel, "God with us", potentially referring to Jesus' human and divine natures, without denying that Isaiah was also referring to a short-term event that Ahaz would see. There was no Virgin Birth during the time of Ahaz and Isaiah, or any time when Assyria threatened Jerusalem, obviously. Applying this sign to Jesus actually has some obvious doctrinal problems, at least at a superficial level, particularly verses 15-16: "He shall eat curds and honey when he knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good. For before the child knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land before whose two kings you are in dread will be deserted." Jesus never had confusion about how to refuse evil and choose the good, even as an infant, let alone as a young boy. At a superficial level at least, applying these verses to him would be blasphemous.

very good analysis

All Bibles are 95% same ole same, that leaves 4% Of words like Thy changed to My, thee changed to You and so on, the last 1% have some differences but not enough to say a Bible Edition is "bad or garbage" is not cool and far from reality. We're talking about Books of Christ talking about the same thing.

@ACF1901

3 жыл бұрын

The problem is, they change crucial words that change theology and dogma...

@justchill8821

3 жыл бұрын

@@ACF1901 find me the critical ones

I wish there was an easier way to read the Bible. I have both NAB and DR. I also have NIV but it's pretty much a bookend at this point.

@sandygrogg1203

3 жыл бұрын

Try the RSV...

I know this is kinda of a older video but it seems like the book is indeed badly written in my opinion there's verses where it doesn't really say a lot just a lot of words and sometimes it doesn't even make sense. The church I "go" to gave me the revised edition when I was going to church school on Saturdays and I never read the bible because obviously it's a lot of pages I once tried to but I gave up the first 5 pages of the book. XD

@ascentofmountcarmel438

5 жыл бұрын

Catholics shouldn't read any Bible that isn't a translation of the Vulgate.

The Douay Rheims is a translation of a translation.. Hebrew/Greek-Latin-English.. The NAB and the NRSV are translations from the Hebrew/Greek to English and they both referenced the Septuagint and the Vulgate as well as most recent manuscript scholarship..

@ascentofmountcarmel438

5 жыл бұрын

The Douay Rheims is a translation of the Vulgate, translated with from texts that have long since been lost. It is the most reliable Bible was approved by the Council of Trent. ...Are you Catholic?

Is the Douay Rheims based on the Vulgate?

@ascentofmountcarmel438

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Glenn. Yes, the Douay Rheims is based on the Vulgate.

@glennso47

6 жыл бұрын

Ascent of Mount Carmel on another video you suggested burning those bibles if you have copies of them. What can you do if you live somewhere that local laws forbid burning rubbish and you don’t have a fireplace or something where you could burn it?

@ascentofmountcarmel438

6 жыл бұрын

Garbage is okay. ...I used to buy and sell books in bulk and then sell them on Amazon. One time I was going through a box I saw a copy of the Satanic Bible. I immediately took it outside in a trash can and moved the can away from the house. It was more important to me to get it out of the house right away than to give it a proper burning.

Much enjoyed

@ascentofmountcarmel438

4 жыл бұрын

You might want to check out the rest of the videos on this playlist: kzread.info/head/PLB9wsq--mkdMRA0uVeDWA7QH2gyQ9OOlG

There's Only some spelling n female /male input . I read my NRSV BIBLE AND THE LIVING BIBLE . The Bible Is MIS Written from many faiths and cultures . JM 🤗🔍🔍

There are zillions of “Religious Opinions,” but there is only One True Faith. Even though your sincerely held “Opinion” may seem quite convincing, if it is not completely congruent with the One Faith that Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ gave into the hands of Saint Peter and the Apostles for safekeeping and transmission, it is the gravest of errors. And just so you can’t claim that “Nobody ever told me!” - I tell you now. Holding anything other than the One True Catholic Faith may very likely keep you out of Heaven.

Wouldn't you want a word for word translation that wasn't tainted from the Latin translations that were made so people would HAVE TO GO to the church and couldn't simply read the bible on there on. Man killed for translating from Greek which was the official language.

@ascentofmountcarmel438

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not following you at all. Interestingly, though your comment is a bit incoherent, you already have one person "liking" it despite the fact that there is so little traffic on this video. Perhaps you have a second account you use to like your own posts. I regret that you have such serious self-esteem issues. Go back to the beginning of this playlist which explains why the Vulgate is better than any modern translations.

nrsv bible is a great translation, dont for get the catholic church uses nrsv bible in Canada

@Ninjafoot100

3 жыл бұрын

It still debunks Mary and Catholic teachings, and has many more removed verses and changed words that fit Protestantism .

@kevingordon1404

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ninjafoot100 nrsv is default bible for catholic church in canada a great translation and loved and used by many catholics

@Ninjafoot100

3 жыл бұрын

Then they are brainwashed by modernism. Just as the default in the U.S. is the nabre bible and many love it but they don't realize it's a false translation with protestant footnotes and omitted verses just like your nrsv. Remember, just because everyone else is doing it, doesn't make it right.

@kevingordon1404

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ninjafoot100 what Bible do you recommend

@Ninjafoot100

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevingordon1404 Douay rhiems Bible, it's beautifully written, has a more powerful authoritative feel to it. It's not sugar coated. No missing words or verses that are important. I read the psalms in modern bibles, no feel to it, but when read from drv, emotions are deeper and faith is strengthened it's amazing. If you can, get the haydock commentary as well.