Would you choose the Spring Drive or Hi-Beat version? Check our Uhrsachen here: bit.ly/3MMma5E

@roycedot

2 жыл бұрын

Spring Drive. The seconds hand movement is so unique and mesmerizing (I have a SBGA283), but I don't think you can go wrong with either White Birch

@AbdulRWatches

2 жыл бұрын

I would definitely want to add a spring drive one to my collection.

@davidhunternyc1

2 жыл бұрын

New. Seiko is Spring Drive.

@reezevlog

2 жыл бұрын

Springy definitely…

@davidhunternyc1

2 жыл бұрын

Something tells me that the 005 just plummeted in value. Sorry early White Birch lovers.

My next watch will be the Hi Beat white birch. People don’t realize that there are $25,000 watches with in house movements that don’t look as good and aren’t as technically impressive. Grand Seiko could have charged $20,000 for this watch and people would have still bought it. Just under $10,000 is a steal. No wonder this watch won the Men’s watch of the year award at GPHG 2021.

@rolexmike

2 жыл бұрын

Yea yea bla bla

@ToneyDouglas23

2 жыл бұрын

@@rolexmike okay mr Swiss watches only

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@Jabber-ig3iw

2 жыл бұрын

GS have to be lower priced as the general public see them as ‘just a seiko’ and ‘ why would I pay thousands for a Seiko’ my local AD still has watches in its window it had a year ago, chatting to the salesman he was saying they just don’t sell, they sell 20 Omega for every GS, I’ve just sold one of my GS and it got nowhere near the attention my Omega did, far fewer views and took longer to sell.

@Riverpeth

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jabber-ig3iw Omega are so diluted nowadays, sadly a dime a dozen

Incredible footage, as expected. Your videos continue to get better and better.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :)

Excellent comparison. This is exactly what I've been looking for. Thanks for creating this.

Can't help but smile wryly when I watch a beautiful Swiss boutique promote the virtues of a Japanese quartz watch! And I mean that as a compliment to both the quality of the watch and the open-mindedness of the boutique.

I just bought the SLGH005 two weeks ago, and it was the only piece available at the exhibition here in Singapore... Haven't regretted yet!

Thank you for this beautiful presentation Marko! Very nice, like always!

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sorin!

Grand Seiko is still very underrated imho! And in that case I don't mean the watches itself but the brand in general. Dominik Maegli from Uhrsachen really highlights the importance of the brand and their history as well as craftmanship. For me GS is one of the few brands nowadays that are REALLY into making great products while still cherishing the past history and current principles of fine watchmaking. Thanks a lot for showing, Marko & Uhrsachen! The new SLGA009 is a great addition to the collection and thanks to the more subtle dial an instant reaction to the market.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it Daniel!

Spring drive model for me! Excellent video btw, I went to a GS boutique yesterday and all the differences, the dial, the movement, the date font can be seen here!

Thank you for this great video. I wanted to know the difference and it was perfectly described. Danke

Great comparison. I had both available when I purchased mine and decided to go with the SLGA009 due to the spring drive mvmt and the sweeping hand. Beautiful watch!

@kimchiwasabee

Жыл бұрын

congrats!! good choice!!

Nice, very good review showcasing two special timepieces. I like the AD focus on less is more as well. Can’t decide on which one I like more. Both are state of the art movements.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

One of the better videos around. Your footage is exemplary. When a Swiss watchmaker in the fourth generation praises a Japanese watch manufacturer and says it stands equal to "his" iconic Rolex anyone looking to make their first purchase really don´t need anymore proof. I´m a trained watchmaker myself (WOSTEP 2001-2004) and even though I´m currently not a practicing one I know what it takes to produce time pieces on this level. If you settle for anything but the immaculate, don´t bother. On my wrist sits the (discontinued) Grand Seiko Heritage SBGR251. For me a perfectly sized 37mm case displaying the reliable, and in it´s own way, beautifully finished 9S65A with a 72h power reserve and a 100M of water resistant and know this...every single watch leaving Grand Seiko has been worked on with the same pursuit for perfection regardless of price. How many brands out there can say that and really mean it, stand by it and put it to the test. Very very few and GS is one of them. I whish you guys a prosperous 2022 as in sales trough the roof and tens of thousand of new subscribers.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Lowe, appreciate the comprehensive and kind comment!

Just got the Black Birch. Fantastic watch. Wears well with lightweight titanium and barely know it's on my wrist. Goes well with casual and formal wear.

@tacomn

8 ай бұрын

How do you have the links configured on each side for a good fit?

@Noypi54494

8 ай бұрын

@tacomn I wish I could give you a better answer but I had Ben Bridge in Hawaii adjust the bracelet links when I got it

Thanks, great video and comparison!

That new finish of the movement is great! I love they do bouth. Great stuff

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Agree!

Grand Seiko are definelty starting to get the recognition they deserve, the quality is insanse

Amazing GS like always

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

:)

No comparison. The mechanical high-beat model is an astounding display of craftsmanship....however, it pales in comparison to the simplicity, the better design, the lower maintenance costs, etc. of the Spring Drive model. That sweeping movement of the seconds hand is mesmerizing.

I just yesterday bought the 009 SD at the Ginza flagship boutique. I went back and forth with the 005 HB. I prefer the 005 dial but the 009 won out for me at least based on uniqueness of movement. Both are beautiful and while I like lume for night legibility I see the beauty in the polished markers. Both watches, while striking and mechanical marvels, look and feel substantial.

Was just comparing these side by side in my local AD. Both fantastic watches, my preference is the spring drive version, it’s more subtle than the auto version, plus I prefer the movement. Not a fan of the price though.

This gorgeous watch looks even more gorgeous on this blue strap. Love it!

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

I own the Spring Drive version of the white birch. It’s a beauty in person and the sweeping blue seconds hand is mesmerizing. The bezel is more prone to damage than the typical sloped bezel. Since I’m OCD, I have sent it back to Japan once for bezel replacement and am much more careful with it now. Overall, very happy with this watch!

Very well done Marko. As expected! I already have SBGA373 which is Spring Drive in original 44GS case and it is a beautiful watch. GS is at its very heart more special than Rolex, owners know that and it's why you buy GS. They are also, ahem, available... So I am more interested in the new Hi-Beat calibre which is its own fantastic thing. That said, the new SLGA White Birch I prefer for its more subtle aesthetic.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Chris!

Great video Marko 👍👍👍👍👍 I like the SLGA009 more, definitely a very cool package.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Abdul!

Marko, I am sure the Eichi II, whether which variant, will blow you away and definitely worth to make a review!

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

One day!

Hello! First, very good vidéos love it! I juste bought m'y first GS it s the white birch slga 009, with thé bew Spring drive 120 jours réserve..ans it s amazing ! All in this wathch is in details ans i love it! No austentory, but in thé quest or perfection..

The first time I saw the white birch the sales associate had to assure me it really was the white birch. Was expecting white (obviously) and not flash! Silver! Pleasant surprise, have to say but thanks to your skills in videography I have to say I think I like the new one better. Have a good weekend Marko.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nef! :)

So beautiful, I love them both but I’d go for the high beat. I have GS Titanium Diver SBGA231. As you said though difficult to sometimes see them in the flesh. Want to look at SLGA413.

@vgcamara

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love the SBGA231. I was surprised how well it wears in small wrists despite it's size 👍

Fabulous watch but my favorite is cherry blossom model which is absolutely amazing. Thank You.

Amazing job as always. Top notch. For me, I'd pick the older version, prefer the dial texture more.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you bro!

@jackm1310

24 күн бұрын

Yes the silver dial is stunning in person

I would love to own a Grand Seiko SBGK005. That flaky midnight-blue dial with the small seconds at 9:00 and the power reserve at 3:00 is simply mesmerizing. And the manually wound movement is pretty sweet too! Alas, the price is out of my reach at this time. Hopefully someone will find it in their heart to gift me one at some point ... but I'm not holding my breath. 😁

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

i have been looking more n more into the brand. i was particularly interested to look into the SLGH011 (green birch), unfortunately its really a boutique (online) only edition. and japan's not really open for tourist (ATM), really looking forward to take a look at the real thing (soon).

Give me the Grand Seiko SLGH005 White Birch any day, that's the most beautiful looking watch that I have ever seen in my life.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

:)

Beautiful presentation of Grand Seiko .Big like 👍

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Did I imagine it, or were those GS watches running backwards at 5 mins in. I guess the footage was edited in backwards. 😁Great vid as always.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

You're right :) Was done in post-production, the watches run fine :D

At 4:54, why is the watch (upper left) with dark blue dial, the second hand was reversing?

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Because we reversed the footage to get a different shot.

Good video! ❤ Thanks 🙏

Wieder mal cooles Video lustig wie sich der Zeiger bei 04:54 rückwärts dreht, die alten YT-Tricks 😀

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

haha ist so! :D

Why are the watches running backwards at 9:04?

Spring drive all day!!

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Nice :)

Awesome video man

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Yeess! Give me metal, give me tight tolerances! My first and last proper watch was a 600ish usd Seiko I got in the US Marines which was immediately stolen when I was in the shower. I've always had a soft spot for Seiko and promise to own one of their beautiful timepieces again. Stunning.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them and happy you enjoy your Seiko!

Beautiful watches! I too have been eyeing these watches. I have the SBGH277 but it is back in Japan right now because it was running very inconsistently and loosing anywhere from 5 to 30 seconds per day under normal use. That put a major damper on my enjoyment of GS but these new pieces are giving me confidence in the brand again

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

There's always hope!

Awesome! 😍♥️

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Tnx!

Definitely have to go for the spring drive. But I wish the dial was more prominent, ideally as sharp as the 005 but less silver and more white.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

A mix would be good!

Cote de Tokyo got me 😂. Good content guys!

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

😂🙏🏻

I would choose Spring Drive due to its accuracy and sweep movement

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

The seconds hand is mesmerizing.

I would really like to know from an official collaborator of Grand Seiko why they in the 2024 still not implement the quickadjust system on the clasp, it's incredible, I have it on all my watches and can't wear a watch without it, I need to adjust the lenght when I go out, when I change place from a cold room to a warm one, what do you think about this point?

That sweeping second hand is mesmerizing. #Grail

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

agree

Indeed very helpfull this video and fantastically organized by showing and explaining how the mechanics work with the magnet. Best of 2 worlds put together. I did not know that there was an officiall shop for Grand Seiko in Switzerland. I knew the exclusive shop Uhrsachen in Bern. I believe they were the first selling Frank Mueller. I guess this video helps tremedously boosting the sales of Uhrsachen on even a higher level. Fantastic shop. Congratulation.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir, appreciate the kind comment!

The 005 is imo too shiny when you see it in the metal, but the hi-beat movement is lovely. I still like my snowflake better but the 009 is my favourite of these two. GS made a huge mistake by not tapering the bracelet more. The wide bracelet makes the watch feel much more chunky that what it really is

@jrs89

2 жыл бұрын

New to watches. What is the difference between the SLGA009 (Evolution 9) and your snowflake SBGA211 (Heritage)?

That Skyflake is an awesome blue!!!!

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Yup! We reviewed it on the channel before!

For anyone else wondering what that astonishing Credor Hokusai Wave inspired piece is, it’s called FUGAKU and retailed for ¥50M. Limited edition of 8.

I would pick the SD version since I am a big fan of SD.

Grand Seiko - Awesome watches that you can actually get from AD’s without the wait or the nonsense that you have to put up with for other brands!!!!!

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Yup!

wait, what was that grand seiko with the stainless steel dial? Jiminy cricket!

Ich liebe meine GS White Birch ❤️❤️❤️❤️

grand seiko hibeat dual impulse escapement is the greatest mechanical movement ever made period, they took george daniels co axial escapement to different level

Spring drive all day. The hi beat is beautiful but on wrist I much prefer the whiter dial of the spring drive, just a cleaner look that I think goes better with a variety of bands. Also the indices pop like jewels on the white dial whereas they get lost a little on the hi beat because the dial is more grey/silver. Lastly, spring drive, just can’t beat it. On that merit alone I’d go the SLGA009. The hi beat is having issues and a lot of people are having to send it in for service.

The two look really similar, but i like the new one more.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Can't go wrong with either.

isn't there another, older white birch model?

IMO old one is so much better. The dial stands out much more, and the high beat movement is awesome. I know people like spring drive but I like paying for the mechanical magic that watches create.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

I'd also probably go for the old one, if I had to decide.

@Jabber-ig3iw

2 жыл бұрын

I think the exact opposite, prefer the spring drive movement, the old birch is far too shouty and in your face. The spring drive creates far more ‘mechanical magic’ the smooth sweep is mesmerising.

Grand Seiko 'IS' Spring Drive so I would take the 009. The 5 day power reserve, the fluidity of the second hand, and more subtle white birch detail is preferable to me. But, in the end, I don't want a Grand Seiko. I want the Credor Eichi II.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Eichi II for the win!

The indices of the two watches are not the same. Go look at your own macro video again. The SLGH got a rectangular groove on the indices while SLGA has the V groove on its indices. A small details to differentiate the watches from two diff GS studio.

Good vidio I love

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

🙏🏻

im annoyed with comments saying that "005 is too shinny" or "like the cleaner look of 009". Yes some ppl may truly think that, but im sure many of them just want to follow what other ppl said becos it is a newer model. Dont forget the crazy dial of 005 is what makes White birch stand out from the other GS model, and 009 probably wouldnt even exist without the popularity of 005.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Personally i prefer the 005 dial texture so it would only be the decision about what movement I'd like to own. But your argument is valid, it's human nature.

Interesting that both watches are the same price despite different movements.

Why were the second hands moving backwards

@SwissWatchGang

Жыл бұрын

Editing choice, which was never repeated😅

Only the cases are zaratsu (sallaz machine) polished. Hands and indices are finished using diamond-tipped milling tools. No polishing needed.

I’ll take the spring drive

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Good choice!

Important to choose between the 2

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Hard choice.

@jeremyestevinho9425

2 жыл бұрын

@@SwissWatchGang the hi beat with the duo impulse escarpment

i want both of them so badly…….😣🎌

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

hehe

4:55 wow, that watch is moving backwards, what complication is that??

@SwissWatchGang

Жыл бұрын

Editing idea which wasn’t a good idea afterwards 😂

I wish the Spring Drive White Birch had the same dial as the mechanical one, or at least one with the same depth and texture to it. It’s a real shame they smoothed out the dial for the new version.

Really wish the bracelet had micro adjustment. That's gonna stop me from buying one.

🤩🔥🔥

I prefer the silvery dial of the 005 model

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

I like the deeper texture but the white on the new one is nice too :)

I really want the spring drives to be more skeletonized, I want to be able to see the beautiful electrical components behind everything

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Would be nice yea I kinda feel the same. The japanese might be to content to do it though. Not their style but lets see.

@a004

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The case back is disappointing on the 009. Nothing really to look at.

Hey man, love the channel. Thanks for the vid. The one thing I can’t stand is that ugly cheap plastic Presage minute chapter ring around the dial. When you see the lovey printing on a Snowflake, you just can’t live with it. The untapered bracelet is the next unbearable thing about it. All in all, close but no dice YET. Eventually GS will crack the code but they’re not there yet. I root for them though, they’re the first brand that can take away the Datejust market but they have to stop cheapening of a couple of easily fixed items. The GMTs are also a tweak away from being top dogs.

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

I don't mind it personally but I see what you mean!

@SillytanN

2 жыл бұрын

i smirk whenever i see videos comparing rolex and GS becos it is so stupid. Rolex is a complete entry level luxury with the best quality at its price point(retail price), while GS is still cutting corner on clasp and stuff which keep reminding ppl that they are just expensive seiko. Not mention the lack of variety like complications and lady watch models, and those rolex lookalike sports model. Long watch making history but focus on cheap and quartz watches. i wouldnt deny the fact that GS has better finishing on the case and hands, but i dont think they can even beat tudor/breitling/omega in terms of the overall quality and branding.

GOD BLESS YOU MARCO. I AM VERY PROUD OF YOU AND VERY HAPPY FOR YOU. I HOPE ALL OF YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE MY FRIEND. I HOPE YOU HAD THE BEST AND HAPPIEST CHRISTMAS OF YOUR ENTIRE LIFE. 🙏

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

@O BZ xD

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter.

@petersampson5202

2 жыл бұрын

@@SwissWatchGang YOU ARE VERY WELCOME MARCO. I HOPE ALL OF YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE. 🙏

@16:51 i think your labelling is incorrect. Everything else is great. Good video. Peace

I still dont understand why they put a logo on a sapphire back 🤬! I like the hi beat dial better as it is more pronounced and no stupid logo on the sapphire case, but the spring drive I like better. If the spring had the same dial and no logo it would be my preferred choice, but now I am torn between the two 😂😂😂😂😂

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know why either but in the new model it's not that noticable like on some other models.

❤

Its hypnotic or am i just imagining

Japan watch gang 🤙 🤙 🤙

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

hehe

Next SBGA413

Perfect watch, if bracelet would be tapered.... At least something to improve.

Great play on words in the name the place. To bad only German speakers will get it. But isn't there a bit of hate against Seiko/Grand Seiko in Switzerland... Quartz crisis and so on?

Guy on the left was reading notes the whole time right? Felt awkward. Awesome watches tho.

Prix please

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

It^s in the video.

For it to really take off you need wealthy watch collectors to want them, not just kids. Completely take off the Seiko name on the watch, Just put "GS" would be an improvement. Really they should of named it something completely different like what Toyota did with Lexus.

i have a heartBern. 😎

@SwissWatchGang

Жыл бұрын

Hehe

Me, a movement connoisseur 🥴

I know GS fanboys hate the power reserve on the front, but it’s utterly pointless on the back, either put it where you can see it or don’t bother at all.

10k and no micro adjustement

SO, they decided to change a special stunning watch into a boring and common looking watch😮, and make it electrical.

@AKhan.28

2 жыл бұрын

Some of us prefer the practicality and technological aspects of the spring drive. Does not make it "boring"

@mattilatvala4164

2 жыл бұрын

@@AKhan.28 I agree, Spring Drive does not make a watch boring. Usually it is the dial.

@AKhan.28

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattilatvala4164 Yah I'm not a fan of how they toned down the "carving" on the dial of this new spring drive version of the white birch, although I do like how they've finally started to move power reserve indication to the back side. My main complaint still with GS is that the cases are still too thick. Hopefully they address this in the near future and manage to slim the cases down

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

To each their own.

it's phonetic: she-zoo-koo-ee-she Yes, a little hard.

The springdrive is simply a genius solution, but it is not a pure mechanical watch. Somehow combined the two worlds disadvantages, it is expensive, overcomplicated, not so punchual compared to a quartz, but missing the soul of a mechanical watch.

Why Grand Seiko is not building bigger watches?🤔 The peoples are growing bigger and the watches get smaller 🤢

@SwissWatchGang

2 жыл бұрын

It's fine so far, the diver line is pretty big.