**Note** The Fuel Keg is now available on AMAZON!: amzn.to/3IFvBml Refill kit also on Amazon: amzn.to/3vhefJC Heck Yeah 😀👍

I've been refilling the green tanks for 9 years now and finally picked this thing up this weekend. It takes away everything that was sketchy and makes it at least feel more professional. Never felt real comfortable pulling on the valve to release air on the Coleman tanks, then when it wouldn't seat properly and youd have to flick it with your needle nose... glad those days are done.

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

Agreed. Right after I made this video I filled up my 6 Colemans that I have and now I feel spoiled with the Fuel Keg. It’s just so much better.

Flame King also makes a refillable tank system. Main differences: 1) you need a hex key to open/close the release valve; 2) the refill kit comes with a stand that holds the 20 lb. tank high enough that you don't need to find an elevated surface to put the 20 lb. tank on; 3) the Flame King system refills a 1 lb. tank in about a minute and ten seconds, about 10-20 seconds faster than the Fuel Keg system; 4) The Flame King system uses bright green cylinders instead of black, not sure if that makes a difference with the sun. We have used the Flame King system for years without any issues. This system is interesting because it doesn't need a hex key to open/close the valve, but I like that the Flame King system uses a stand that holds the 20 lb. tank high enough that you can do the entire thing on the ground (we usually use it at the garage entrance, on the concrete. It is nice to see competition in the arena, however.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

That Flame King is still a FANTASTIC option. I don’t have a single negative thing to say about it.

@jeromep

3 ай бұрын

I’m invested in the Flame King system. I have like 5 canisters along with the stand and valve. I haven’t purchased 1lb canisters in years. Nice to see some competition out there.

@curvenut

3 ай бұрын

i have the flame king 1lb , and i think it is more secure because of the allen key is needed to open the valve. You wont open the valve accidently. True that it is a pain in ash to refill since you have to have you allen key on hand for refill

The danger of refilling the standard 1 pounders comes about when you refill them during cold temperatures, the colder the more pronounced the problem gets. During colder temps you can fit more propane in the container, even using gravity/ unassisted filling methods. If you store these containers filled in a cold setting and move them to a warm setting the fuel will warm and expand. This expansion can deform the canister to bursting levels. I observed this with canisters filled at 20°F and stored in a location that warmed up in the spring to 50°F.

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

Completely agree. I really need to make a follow up video to this. Right after I published it I thought of a few things I should have added to it.

@nunyabusiness7405

3 ай бұрын

this happens because no expansion space is left. always keep the 1lb horizontal and yer good

@adrianwilson7536

3 ай бұрын

The temp has NOTHING to do with it being more or less safe. They over filled with more then one pound of propane. Period. They did not weight the process and stop. Over filling the same amount at 80° and leaving in a shed that hits 110° or in direct sun on a 80° day will get the same result. With ONE pound of propane those cylinders do not expand to fill the tank till 130° F. Since the liquid only flows in a refill till the pressure equalise the easiest way to overfill is use a nice warm\hot 20lb tank to a cold 1lb in a cold dry environment. Weight is the only way to know how full a normal 1lb tank is. Also never tamper with the vent.

@SilvaDreams

3 ай бұрын

Those single use 1lb tanks have MUCH thinner walls, they are essentially sheet metal you can bend with your fingers so repeatedly filling them is dangerous. Any rust that forms on the inside creates weak points in the already soft thin material. These have a rust inhibitor on the inside of the tank and a much thicker wall thickness for safty.

I purchased the Fuel keg and a non-Mr. heater fill valve - that proved to be completely ineffective. I'm returning that valve to Amazon today and will receive the branded valve tomorrow. Thank you for the demo video - excellent.

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

You’re welcome. I ALMOST did the same thing and I’m sorry that happened to you…but luckily Amazon has a great return policy and it’s so easy.

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

Remember: It has to be the Fuel Keg one. Mr. Heater makes a fill valve for Colemans that will NOT work on the Fuel Keg.

@billpearson7802

3 ай бұрын

Yes Fuel Keg Refill Kit is what has been ordered. Thank you.

That's pretty slick unit!! I'll have to try that out for sure!

@TheMichiganFisherman

6 ай бұрын

Can’t get them on Amazon. Only place I know that sells them is Menards.

Looking forward to your video on refilling single-use propane tanks.

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

I’ll try to get on it right after vacation 👍🌴

**Note** If you are going to refill the Coleman tanks, be SAFE and use THESE brass caps after refilling them. They're CHEAP: amzn.to/42JKGwj

@Bob_Adkins

4 ай бұрын

I don't know about being safer, but I was surprised by how many new 1 pound tanks leak, and have found bottles almost empty. ! Been using these for 3-4 years, and I highly recommend them too.

You have to make sure the gasket inside the fuel keg doesn't come out when finished filling, sometimes this will happen. It's very small and easy to miss. A cheap digital scale will help in learning if you have a true one pound fill, weigh the keg before and fill then weigh it after a stream of white vapor. Tractor Supply is selling these now, they are a little pricey, 35 for the refill kit and 19 for the kegs.

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

I didn’t know that. I appreciate the info. I think I’m going to make a follow up video because apparently I missed a few things.

Excellent video. Going to pick one up next time I am at Menards.

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

Thanks. I think you’ll like them. I’m probably going to pick up two more.

Thank you for the video. Wouldve never guessed you could fill these little tanks until 100 percent filled.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I really like mine so far. Refilled both twice during ice fishing. Just the speed alone is worth it.

@cbdyna

4 ай бұрын

@@TheMichiganFisherman Awersome. It is on my Amazon list for sure. Could just grab a 9 dollar coupler and refil, but I have seen so many different ways people fill those things and not sure who is most right. Some use ccales. Some pushing the center pin in. Some pulling off center pin up. Disagreements over taking the air out via that pin you pull up etc. etc.

@spencermorrow2899

3 ай бұрын

@@cbdynawatch Howie Roll’s video on it it’s the best dummy proof one on KZread

I still refill them (the ones from Walmart etc.) all the time best bang for the buck ever hundreds of times and they work flawlessly.

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

I agree. However I ALWAYS put these brass caps on the Colemans to be safe in case they ever do leak: amzn.to/42JKGwj

@coler154

4 ай бұрын

they will rust from the moisture in the propane inside kzread.info/dash/bejne/n3ibsNuqZ66efZM.html

@Comm0ut

4 ай бұрын

Just don't store them indoors but that applies to ALL fuel gases so mine live outdoors in their own flam locker (a dead top loading freezer which keeps out moisture).

@CrimeVid

3 ай бұрын

I don't get it, why not take the twenty (or whatever size you need) pound bottle, or are you saying that a one pound bottle will be enough for your needs ? I mean most of you guys drive out on the ice, yes/no ? so you can carry it easy enough...

@Billbobaker

3 ай бұрын

@@CrimeVid Space in the kitchen, living room etc... they are useful for many things at different times and take no room really. Butane is even better.

That seems worth it. Not only for long term cost but sometimes it’s tough to find the little 1lb Coleman tanks. People buy them up fast.

@TheMichiganFisherman

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. I think I’m gonna buy two more tanks. I REALLY like them. Even more so after I had to refill my Coleman’s right after this video.

@TheMichiganFisherman

6 ай бұрын

Only tough thing, and I forgot to say this in the video, is finding them. I had to drive to THREE different Menards.

@jamesborough2921

Күн бұрын

Dang ole people anyways!

Thanks for the info.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

You’re welcome! 👍

I bought this on a whim at Menards and I LOVE this kit. So much better than the hacky kit I originally put together.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

I’m glad you like it as much as I do. My only regret is only picking up 2 bottles when I probably should’ve picked up 4. 😂

@FoxfireArmory

4 ай бұрын

@@TheMichiganFisherman I picked up the kit + 4 bottles at the same time and glad I did. We do a lot of car camping and I usually go through 3 bottles. My only complaint is they are a little heavier than the Coleman single use and Flameking.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

@FoxfireArmory yup. I mentioned that in the video. Definitely heavier.

I have an adapter to run my Mr. Buddy heater off a 5 lb. or 20 lb. tank. runs a whole lot longer and the adapter is cheaper.

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

That’s always the best option but sometimes I need to travel light (ice fishing) and that’s where the one pounders are king 👑

After seeing your video, I already have the Flame King System and just ordered another tank from Fuel Keg to try the tank out. Good system.

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

Flame King is a pretty nice system as well. Very similar, in fact.

Yes friend very good video. We do not use heater Mr in Sri Lanka but we use heat to cook sometimes. Mantap

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

Get a Mr Heater immediately.

We use propane forklifts at work. This seems quite similar to the process of refilling those tanks

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

I was unaware they used a similar system for those forklifts. Thanks for the knowledge. I’m gonna look it up.

Some Dolt going to use this in a tent or ice hut and bump the purge valve and go boom! No more Uncle Eddie

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

Purge valve only releases vapors while connected to the refueling kit. If you turn the valve any other time, nothing happens. That was a concern of mine as well. I forgot to address it in the video.

@nagaviper1169

3 ай бұрын

I was wondering about that. Thank you

I refill the green colemans. If you are going to store them for awhile, I suggest putting a brass cap with a built in rubber gasket. Just in case the valve leaks. You won't lose propane, and you won't be filling the area with highly flammable gas.

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

I forgot to mention that in the video but I DO use those and I even have them recommended in the description 👍 Every time I make a video, there are always things after the fact that I wish I included in the original video.

@nagaviper1169

3 ай бұрын

@TheMichiganFisherman I appreciate your video. Thank you sir. I'm curious about the fuel kegs.

@philiptong4978

3 ай бұрын

the cap should be able to prevent damaging the threads or main valve from contaminants such as moisture or debris entering, but sealing propane vapor pressure in the range of 100-200psi at ~60-110F ? there are propane gas alarm just like smoke or CO, better have them monitoring and a plan to deal with leaks

This will be a great option for when NYS outlaws the sale of the 1lb disposable tanks.

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

Absolutely. I didn’t even know that was a possibility.

Thank you👍👍👍😎

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

You’re welcome, Ron 👍

Yes watch the plastic sleeve and gasket it will come out and stick on the Steam of the refilling tool. Good show

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

Appreciate the heads up, man. Thank you.

If everyone could see the video a man made where he cut open a green tank and a Fuel Keg, they wouldn't mess with refilling the green tanks. The metal on the Fuel Tank was almost TWICE as thick as the green tank. Plus, the rust inside of the unsealed green tank gives me pause for thought...AND you'll never get a green tank full, since theres no bleeder valve to let the air out that's on top of the propane.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

I saw that video. It was pretty awesome. He made it after I made this one. To be honest, since I got the Fuel Keg…I haven’t refilled the Colemans. Fuel Keg is just so much quicker and, like you said, safer (even though I’ve NEVER had a problem with the Colemans and don’t know anyone who has). Thanks for watching, man. 👍

OK, just tune in he said steady stream of propane, coming out of there that’s full man!😮

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

I did it for the camera in case it didn’t pick it up good. Uhhh….it sure did. 😂👍

weigh the 20lb cylinder before and after fill to see how much you actually transfer. First use might be the most transferred if the 1lb comes under vacuum.

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

Sometimes I weigh the one pounder. Never thought to weigh the 20. I’ll try that. 👍

I like this a lot

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

So do I.

Thanks!

@TheMichiganFisherman

2 ай бұрын

You’re welcome.

@apachelocotorosentado8933

2 ай бұрын

Question what happen if you don't release

I can see a place for this product for many folks who use this size of cylinder in greater quantity, but as an LP gas tech for nearly 20 years, I have a few concerns. After the first filling, that is not air coming out of the cylinder when the bleeder valve is opened, it is propane vapor. Does the fuel keg have an OPD or "overfill protection device"? If not I am sure there will be some Dawininan that decides to fill the keg to 100% liquid full. The cylinder needs to only be filled to no more than 80% capacity to allow for liquid expansion when temps climb or when the BLACK cylinder is left out in the sun on a hot July day. Someone certainly did not think about this aspect. Can the bleeder valve be accidentally be opened when not actually filling the cylinder? There is a good reason the typical bleeder valve, or, as it's properly known, the "fixed liquid level gauge" is usually a thumbscrew or in the case of BBQ cylinders, a slotted screw type of valve actuator to avoid unintended opening and gas release. What is the legality of transporting this cylinder after filling? Does it fall under the same regulation as a 20# BBQ cylinder or a 1# disposable? Despite these issues I do feel that there is a place for this sort of thing, both from an economic standpoint, and an environmental one as well.

@TheMichiganFisherman

6 ай бұрын

I really appreciate the in depth comment. You make a ton of great points. I didn’t even think about the black color of the tank. They probably should’ve gone with white. I will say one thing about the bleeder valve that I DID record but then I forgot to put it in the video when I edited it: The bleeder valve will only release vapors when that tiny hole on the top has the pin in it…such as when you’re refilling it. If you open the bleeder valve any other time, no vapors will be released. That was a big concern of mine as well and again, I can’t believe I left that out. I’ll make an updated video on some of the points you made. Thanks, bud.

@brianbowles5549

4 ай бұрын

Can the bleeder valve be accidentally be opened when not actually filling the cylinder? The answer is NO.

@philiptong4978

3 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/n3ibsNuqZ66efZM.html I see a dip tube but no float, guess it is not considered an OPD but both refillable tank has thicker walls than disposable to deal with the pressure expansion

I bought a 4 pack of the Flame King version. 1 of 4 is bad. I've been burned worse. Ill give these a shot

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

I’ve refilled my two a couple times each now. Time will tell but I love mine so far.

The gentleman on the below video make some very good points about why one should NOT refill the single use tanks. kzread.info/dash/bejne/n3ibsNuqZ66efZM.html Basically, he cuts them and two refillable tanks open and shows the internal difference. The single use tank is made from much thinner metal and lacks the rust prevention coating on the inside.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

I’ve actually seen that video this week when KZread recommended it to me. I had never known that.

Great video. Good call on the ventilated area PSA. Can't imagine what would happen if someone were to breathe too much of that stuff in. Probably not an item for me. My use of 1 pound tanks vs the start up cost for this, doesn't add up for me. But, I see the value for someone who would use it more often.

@TheMichiganFisherman

6 ай бұрын

Oh I know what would happen if you breathe it in. 🤮💀 Yeah, I hate to alienate you on this video but I was mainly targeting the cold weather crew with this one. I guess if you camp a lot it could come in handy, though. Thanks, Joe.

@ParabellumFishing

6 ай бұрын

@@TheMichiganFisherman Cold weather crew?! Dude, it got down to 54 degrees here last week. I almost died! 🤣

@TheLpjoe

6 ай бұрын

The Propane vapor itself is non toxic, It used to be used as a propellant in aerosol cans, minus the odorant. But it does displace oxygen, one would feel light headed, possibly dizzy. If you ignored these signs, one would suffer form hypoxia and if one did not move to fresh air before passing out, death from suffocation could result. Not real likely in this situation.

I spent $5 on a valve that fits in the palm of my hand from a company, it works great with ZERO waste.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

I have the same valve…it just takes FOREVER to fill tanks with it. This thing only takes about 90 seconds and these tanks are legal for transport. If I have a lot of time on my hands, I still use that cheap valve. Thanks for watching. 👍

@jamesgizasson

3 ай бұрын

I've always used a little brass threaded adapter. No valve, no gauge, no worries! Just always detach the smaller bottle first! :)

not sure how I feel about that ring.... seems like something that is way to easy to get hung up on or broken. Maybe take that ring off and use a small allen key to run it like a leaver.

@TheMichiganFisherman

2 ай бұрын

If that’s the case, just stick with Flame King. Very similar except they use EXACTLY what you recommended: An Allen Key. 👍

Thanks for the thorough review. Ive looked at this unit but it's expensive in Canada. Really its the upfront cost keeping me out of this product. If toure OK with the long term cost you'll save money in the long haul.

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

Thanks, Dan. I wish I would’ve made this video before I filled up my 6 Coleman ones right after this. Those Coleman ones took forever. I don’t mind paying for the convenience now. 😂

I feel as of a 20lb cylinder and an adapter to tue heater is just the better option.

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

Man. I need to do another video where I explain that this is for traveling LIGHT. Like backpacking or ice fishing.

I have seen those kicking in social media, i really love the idea!! I would pay the $50

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

The more I’ve used them the more I like them. Thanks.

@FuckALLauthorities

4 ай бұрын

50 bucks is what I pay to fill 2, 20 pound tanks, wtf. I bought a $5 small valve that works great with empty 1 pounders.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

@@FuckALLauthorities it’s an upfront cost to have CONVENIENCE going forward. I have the $5 valve, too. But this thing is sweet. 90 second tank fills.

a frozen 1 lb bottle will fill to safe level in under 30 sec for a total weight of 2.03lb MAX the big thing is keeping the 1lb bottle horizontal to keep expansion space inside. been doing it this was long time with no waste

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

I’m going to have to try that.

@nunyabusiness7405

3 ай бұрын

@@TheMichiganFisherman i also use the brass caps with rubber seals as the bottles do leak down over time once used from new. the biggest thing is NOT TO GO OVER 2.03lbs TOTAL weight (bottle and liquid) this is what they weight new

Darwin awards winners out there 😆🤣 ambulance to a Darwin😉 excellent video and share Bryan. Something for me to look into. We all know those 1lb tanks are not cheap. I didn’t even know something like this was out there.

@TheMichiganFisherman

6 ай бұрын

Thanks, Chris. Flame King has something very similar but this is pretty much brand new and can only be purchased at Menards (as far as I know).

@a.r.r.5626

4 ай бұрын

Amazon as well...👍🏻

50 is well worth the kit. Its 21.00 here for 3 tanks for 3 lbs.......and costs us 20 ish to fill a 20lb tank. 1lb tanks are a rip off and I need to get this now hehe!! Nice

@TheMichiganFisherman

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, it’s pretty awesome. Takes me like AT LEAST 5 minutes to fill those Colemans. Fuel Keg 90 seconds. It’s awesome. Highly recommend it.

@rickf9804

5 ай бұрын

Can the refill kit be used on the Coleman tanks?

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

Just saw this. Probably not because of the pin/valve but I'll check and let you know.

or just buy the little 5# white propane tank and the adapter hose to use on the 1 lb fittings. About the same price overall. And it's not really much bigger size wise than 4 of the disposables.

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

I like to travel very light while ice fishing or backpacking 👍

I seen WM has jacked up the lil green cylinder to 10 bucks a pop here now. 20 lb cylinder is about 23 bucks so it makes sense to at least fill the green ones.

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's getting completely insane lately. It's usually about $5.50 around here now for a 1 pounder. I've even seen it over $7 a bottle if you wait until you're at the bait shop. Way too much.

@a.r.r.5626

4 ай бұрын

Wow ..the green Colemans were 2/$8 just a few years ago.

A Darwin award winner 🥇 🤣😂😆, that’s a good one!!

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! I almost won one of them while emptying the lines of the excess propane 😂👍

Is it possible to refill it using a coleman refilling adapter? I'm asking because here in Brazil the cylinders use a different fitting, and people usually buy the refilling adapter which uses a hose, cut that hose and use an adapter to plug this into a Brazilian cylinder hose. With the rigid type of adapter the Fuel Keg uses, I don't know how to do it

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

You will NOT be able to use the Coleman adapter. The Fuel Keg canister has a valve and the Fuel Keg Refill kit has a pin that fits into that valve.

@9abe9

3 ай бұрын

That's sad! Thank you for the answer! I need to find an adapter which has a hose, then.

I just use a hose adapter and a BBQ jug. Little cylinders are annoyingly small.

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

I hear you, but sometimes you need to travel light. When I go I’ve fishing, I always travel light.

This is at Wal-Mart now.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

Awesome! Hopefully it’ll be on Amazon soon! Edit: It IS on Amazon now! Nice!

for $ kinda worth it, if you are uncomfortable with using the "disposable ones"

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

I agree about the money. 👍 The more I use it, the more I like the CONVENIENCE of it more than anything else.

Check, gloves, eye protection, well-ventilated area, glass table, …

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

Yeah. Glass table probably not the best option 😂 I didn’t want to drag my other table out of the shed.

When you buy them from the store you transport them full so there’s no law against that or you couldn’t buy them. B you can refill the green ones too we sell an adapter that fits on the tank and adapts to the green ones just bleed the shader valve when empty been doing it for years before this thing came out. Sold at Tractor Supply everywhere. Green tanks are easier than all this fooforah. Screw on the adapter and the tank turn it over and open the valve.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

I have the adapter for the green ones. I like it. But I’m telling you…the Fuel Keg is WAY better and ten times faster.

how this 1lb model compared to the flame king 1lb erefillable ?

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

Extremely comparable. Basically the same except the purge valve is opened with an Allen wrench on the Flame King whereas the Fuel Keg has the tool affixed to it.

I believe good ol California is going to stop selling the Green one's & besides they dont fill completely. Here in Californication their almost $10 bucks a piece! Ill be getting this setup! Its the cost of 5 Green ones. Good video!

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

Thanks, man! Everything in Cali is so darn expensive. No way I’d be paying $10 a pop 😂👍

@jamesgizasson

3 ай бұрын

My local Ace started selling the Flame King bottles... I thought they were discontinued, but I was wrong! I refilled Coleman bottles for years when I lived in a house with no heat, but I wouldn't do it now! :)

@philiptong4978

3 ай бұрын

they were once discontinued after a recall a number of years back, search "flame king 1lb recall notice" for details

Without weighing it before and after we do not know how much can be filled.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

With the valve at the top and the vapors coming out, there isn’t a need to weigh the fuel keg like you do with the Coleman. I DEFINITELY weigh the Colemans and I even underfill them a little bit on purpose.

@atburke6258

4 ай бұрын

@@TheMichiganFisherman Thank you Sir, for your prompt reply. I see your point. I have one of those little 900w/600w inverter generators that take Coleman size bottles fitted inside the shell. I know how long it will run on a Coleman pound but I would not know the normal refill capacity/run time of the substitute tanks. BTW, I have bought six-packs of Coleman tanks and had a fair weight difference from tank to tank. I would have thought that all six were filled at about the same time?

Can you fill the coleman tanks with this filler set up ?

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

I haven’t tried it yet. I’ll try it when I empty a Coleman. My guess is NO because of the pin that allows the valve to work on the Fuel Keg. However, if refilling a Coleman is what you want there are similar options that are half the price. 👍

Id rather just put the adapter hose on my 20 pounder and not have to worry about filling it for quite a while. lasts forever on my buddy heater.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

That’s definitely a good option but when I’m ice fishing I hate carrying all of that extra weight. 👍

Can the refill kit be used to fill conventional tanks as well as the fuel keg, or is there some proprietary system to prevent the filling of conventional bottles?

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

I’ve never tried it. As soon as I drain a Coleman tank a little bit I’ll tell you.

@j.peterson210

4 ай бұрын

No. The kit will only work on their bottles. Look at the refill connector and you’ll notice two “pins” sticking out…center and the other. Their bottles have these two ports, but the standard green bottles don’t.

@scottsyoutubeworld1824

4 ай бұрын

@@j.peterson210 Thanks for the answer. I figured that the connections would be proprietary in some way. Everyone does that.

@j.peterson210

4 ай бұрын

@@scottsyoutubeworld1824 May also something to do with liability., but I'm ok with it as filling these bottles is much easier than the disposable green ones (i..e the overflow / vent component wouldnt seat properly on the last ones I tried).

@brianbowles5549

4 ай бұрын

is there some proprietary system to prevent the filling of conventional bottles? Yes.

*Question : does your Fuel Keg's wobble ? Because mine do !* I just bought three of these from Walmart and discovered upon returning home that the bottom ring that acts as the stand, which has all the DOT info stamped into it are less than stellar welding. Meaning they wobble standing up right, one egregiously so and the other two not near as much but still not flat... and some applications involve the base being the stand; like single burner attachments or even Mr.Heaters own Little Buddy 3,800 BTU heater... Assembly and Quality Control is garbage and Mr.Heater should be ashamed.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

I never thought to check that because I don’t use them like that but I just checked the two that I bought. One wobbles. One doesn’t. That does suck. I’m going to bring that up in a follow up video. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Seems a bit Putsy. If you already have a 20 pound propane tank and the device you’re using doesn’t require sitting on the small tank I would just go with the Mr. heater adapter hose from the 20 pound to your heater and call it done.

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

This is for when you need to travel LIGHT. 👍 Like backpacking or ice fishing when you need to pull your sled.

14 refills pays for the entire system.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

Yup. And it’s just so convenient.

Flame King…

@TheMichiganFisherman

3 ай бұрын

Flame King is a great option as well. I even already included a link for Flame King in the description 👍

Forgot no smoking 🚭 lol Darwin

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

I sure did. Darn. Well...traffic should be lighter if someone doesn't figure that out.

This guy weighs and cuts open a Fuel Keg, Flame King, and single-use cylinder. Not only are the refillable ones made of thicker and higher grade steel, they have a rust prevention coating inside that the single-use cylinder lacks. Propane carries some water with it that rusts the single-use cylinders over time if they're refilled. kzread.info/dash/bejne/n3ibsNuqZ66efZM.html

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

I saw that video. It was very well done. Too bad I didn't see it before I posted mine.

Great video. You shouldn't say MAYBE for LEGAL. It is ABSOLUTELY illegal to refill those green tanks

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah…I guess you’re right. 😂

That’s a lotta this and that , just get a little 3 lb. bottle was my choice

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

That’s also a good option. It seems like a lot at first but once you know how to do it I’m telling you…the Fuel Keg is king. 👑

It is NOT safe to refill the Coleman 1lb tanks. These Fuel Keg tanks ARE safe to refill and to transport.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

I agree that the Fuel Keg tanks are safe to refill and to transport. 👍

@ericschulze5641

4 ай бұрын

Nonsense, I suppose you think thier filled at the factory with "SPECIAL " Propane and the valves are designed for one use only complete Nonsense

Very expensive at $50

@TheMichiganFisherman

18 күн бұрын

Yup, but you’re paying for the luxury you’ll have refilling them for years. They’re so convenient. I pay for convenience. Some people spend more than that per week for cigarettes that destroy their lungs and lottery tickets that destroy their retirement.

@rgruenhaus

18 күн бұрын

@@TheMichiganFisherman homeless and living in a vehicle I'm refilling not to pay luxury costs

I huff propane.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

Don’t forget what Nancy Reagan said…

@METALMAN4Wii

4 ай бұрын

@@TheMichiganFisherman Hank Hill on Family Guy.

I stopped the video when you said "bleed the air out of the canister". Excess propane vapor is what you are bleeding off then the propane mist comes next.

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

Cool. I misspoke. Thanks for stopping by✌️

@FuckALLauthorities

4 ай бұрын

Isn't the pressurized air, gas needed in the small tank for it to work properly 🤔 ​@@TheMichiganFisherman

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

@@FuckALLauthorities I’ve been using the Fuel Kegs with zero issues. So I guess not. 👍

@Austinsairplanes

4 ай бұрын

If it's a new tank wouldn't there be air inside?

@independentthinker8930

4 ай бұрын

Nit pick

Super easy to burn the shit out of your self with this thing, I retruned mine. Flame king works better.

@TheMichiganFisherman

2 ай бұрын

I’m gonna have to try it. I agree that when you disconnect it at the end, the excess in the valve does spray out weird and without gloves you could burn/freeze your hand.

Dude, get a grip, you are dealing With propane, not spent nuclear waste in reference to all the safety gear, gloves/pants etc. BTW Amazon sells a propane refill valve for the Coleman tanks that is around $8. Been doing it for years and you won’t get chemical burns, frostbite or blow yourself up.

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

I said gloves and eyeglasses. Which is a good idea. I never said pants. In the videos I’m wearing my Striker bibs because I just got done ice fishing. I have one of those $8 refill valves for the Coleman and I use them. One time I had a bad valve and propane went spraying everywhere. Wasn’t even my fault and I was glad I had gloves and glasses on. I still fill up Colemans as well but this thing is WAY faster and more convenient.

Get your facts straight. You are not venting air out of the tank. You are venting propane gas vapor that is boiling off of the liquid propane to reduce the vapor pressure so more liquid can enter.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

Yup. You’re right. 👍

@antibrevity

3 ай бұрын

No need to be harsh. He likely should have used the word "gas", but "air" has a similar meaning to many viewers. It's worth pointing this out though, as we want people to understand that the escaping gas is highly flammable.

For your viewers information. If you have a few bottles with the caps off and the refill kit with you on the road, you are screwed if there is an accident and someone gets hurt. If death, 10 years in jail. Although it is not illegal to fill these, it is illegal to transport them on roads. (B) For cylinders manufactured on or after October 1, 1996: “Federal law forbids transportation if refilled-penalty up to $500,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 U.S.C. 5124).” 49 CFR § 178.65 - Specification 39 non-reusable (non-refillable) cylinders. (i) Markings. (1) The markings required by this section must be durable and waterproof. The requirements of § 178.35(h) do not apply to this section. (2) Required markings are as follows: (i) DOT-39. (ii) NRC. (iii) The service pressure. (iv) The test pressure. (v) The registration number (M****) of the manufacturer. (vi) The lot number. (vii) The date of manufacture if the lot number does not establish the date of manufacture. (viii) With one of the following statements: (A) For cylinders manufactured prior to October 1, 1996: “Federal law forbids transportation if refilled-penalty up to $25,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 U.S.C. 1809)” or “Federal law forbids transportation if refilled-penalty up to $500,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 U.S.C. 5124).” (B) For cylinders manufactured on or after October 1, 1996: “Federal law forbids transportation if refilled-penalty up to $500,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 U.S.C. 5124).

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

That's a ton of great information. Are you talking about the Fuel Keg or the Colemans, or both? I knew about all of that for the Colemans. If that holds true for the Fuel Keg, I was unaware of that.

@KevinCoop1

5 ай бұрын

@@TheMichiganFisherman The Fuel Keg is DOT rated and can be transported with no issues. In some comments you see the word sketchy. Hmmm?

@TheMichiganFisherman

5 ай бұрын

@@KevinCoop1 At the 01:09 mark I made sure to say that you can't transport the Coleman tanks legally. 👍

If I need to refill 1lb tanks to stay warm…I just do not go.

@TheMichiganFisherman

4 ай бұрын

That’s always an option, too! 👍