Is the NEW 2020 BMW M235i Gran Coupe a TRUE performance sedan WORTH the PRICE?
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The M235i is an ALL NEW model from BMW. It's chassis come from the BMW x2 and under the hood is a 2.0L turbocharged inline-4 that is producing 301HP & mated to an 8-speed automatic transmission. It's exterior has unique lines that are new to the BMW lineage. On the inside you will find a well though interior with all the features that come to expect from BMW. Is the NEW 2020 BMW M235i Gran coupe a real luxury performance sedan?
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Okay. I own this car. My other car is a 2018 M3 Comp. This car, I don’t care what anyone says, is an absolute blast to drive. It’s fun. It’s fast. I’ve been 160 in this car more than a handful of times (speed limiter) and let me tell you, it sticks to the road at those speeds. I’ve made charger RT owners cry. 718 owners weep. The stock exhaust, the torque is awesome. You feel it. I was extremely hesitant on getting it, and I don’t regret any of it. Such a blast to drive
@Camplou2
2 жыл бұрын
Agee with you completely. Have only had mine a few months but love how it drives. A lot of the people who both do video reviews and comment on them have no idea how AWD actually works, and just keep harping on that worn out theme of “ it’s built off of a FWD platform” so what? When you are not engaged in the limits of traction, who cares if the front wheels are pulling you more than the rears are pushing you? It doesn’t matter at all. And if you have a perception that FWD means torque steer, drive this car, it has none. My only critique of the car is that apparent,y not all options are available in all markets,so all of these reviewers are testing slightly different versions of the car. Mine lacks auto cruise control and the better HK audio system that I would have definitely ordered had I had time to wait 6 months for a car. Besides that, the size is perfect and it’s a complete blast to drive.
@Camplou2
2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you. I leased mine about 3 months ago and am laughing over all the stupid comments like “ it was based on a 1 series that started as a FWD car”, or it probably has torque steer”. This car has as much torque as the outgoing 2 series coupe and is just as quick, and it has terrific brakes and suspension. Mine lacks a few options I would have ordered if I had the chance, like active cruise, Harmon Karin and the sport seats, but when this lease is up I can see myself getting another one with all those extras. Mileage on the highway is over 37, around town low 30 s. I bet most of the critics of this car have never so much as driven one
@forrest2195
2 жыл бұрын
I have the same car AND I AGREE. Super fun and everyone loves it.
@mharro88
Жыл бұрын
160? Idiot
@mikemayers8672
Жыл бұрын
Nah just can’t drive a mini that looks like a frog
Just purchased this a M235i Grand Coupe in Australia, upgraded from a F30 3 series. They come standard standard with heads-up display and headed seats and steering wheel. Absolutely love the car, didn't have to do any changes to this one, sounds great looks great and performs great.
@RaitisRides
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me share it with you!
It's so crazy that most of the dealers you VLOG from I live not to far from!!! Love this channel and LOVE our area!!!
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Jimmie Carter that is so awesome! It is such a small world! Thank you for your support!
I bought a m235i just a few weeks ago and I can tell you it's actually a great car. Some of the complaints you mentioned are not present as far as lacking heated, ventilated seat and head up display I have it all that. Granted it's not the traditional rear wheel drive I had before but definitely a far better car than the equivalent Mercedes which feels really horrible and more like a Renault Megane or Nissan Pulsar. The m235i xdrive beats all its competitors without question. 👍
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that great input Bruce from your own experience!
@markomarkomarko
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I think the car driven is a very poorly optioned example at this price. Either needs a bit more to be a great car or a much lower price with fewer dumb options.
@N0nam3822
4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering what made u get this instead of the similarly priced m240xi
I love this Beamer, Joe! Looks fabulous! Thanks for bringing it out for me! Also, very stunned and surprised to see a zonk-free exterior! You killed it again! Also, I6 > I4 (that's just my personal preference). If you like the I4 too, then that's fine.
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Brian Lee I’m so glad you liked it!
Another wonderful review! Great job Joe and Tom! 💪🏽
Joe! You do such an amazing job on all your videos. I watch all your videos. Keep up the great work.
Hi Joe, I hope you are doing well. First of all I wanna thank you for your videos and for putting a smile on our faces. Joe I feel the only thing that the channel missing is the POV camera. It will give us as viewers even a better feel and view to really join you in your rides as you smoke the competition and go through these twisty roads. I would watch all your mustang, challenger & charger videos you have posted over & over again without getting sick of them with that POV view.
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Diego for watching and the great feedback! I will get that together for you!
I thought I have been subscribed for months but just recently subscribed. Love your over the top positivity!
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Kenny O thanks my friend for the compliments and joining the Raiti’s Rides family!
I’m a fan of the fact that Raiti can express how he truly feels despite the dealership lending him the car.
You are a car guru. If I were a car exec I would hire you to go over all prototypes and make your recommended edits to design and performance. Good stuff Raiti👊🏻
Joe - you sound like you were trying to like the car more than you actually were able to.
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Gareth Hood it was alright but not $50k worth
@AbdullahHood
4 жыл бұрын
I’m feeling you on that
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Gareth Hood great minds think a like!
@cbruno12180
4 жыл бұрын
Raiti's Rides can u say srt scat pack for that price i mean come bmw wth!!
@twntyfor24
4 жыл бұрын
He just wants to be allowed back for the cool cars😜
Very fun review with that typical zany flair of yours Joe! Been waiting for this car, and I actually really like the platform it rides on. I love the interior design, Infotainment system...and it looks like the X Drive and power really puts down here. Having had a 2017 GTI and currently a 2018 Mazda 3 Hatch Sport, I am seriously considering this for my next lease or purchase. I wonder if BMW offers the red/pomegranate seat color in this Gran Coupe🤔
At the tip of the turn signal stalk there should be two buttons (see @ 12:08). Pressing one of them will cycle through the display info. You had it set on trip distance which puts the gear number at the bottom. One of them shows the drive mode in nice big letters (i.e D, R) and in manual mode it will say M1-8 depending on the gear you're in. I have the same setup on my X3 M40i
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that great info Mike!
im seeing alot of hyundai/kia design elements, from the lip on the trunk(2020 elantra sport lip) the wheels also kind of look like the 2017 elantra sport wheels design
@305dadecounty305
4 жыл бұрын
aaron Chung I was thinking the same thing!
@nickelbut10
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I own a 2019 Elantra Sport and I thought it was my car. Lmao
@nickelbut10
4 жыл бұрын
@Nicholas Grey yup! Hyundai Corp has taken a few BMW engineers and Audi designers as well. That includes the famous Albert Biermann from BMW M team who worked on the KIA Stinger, Genesis G70 and Veloster N. They also acquired Fayez Rahman from BMW in 2017. Making moves the Koreans are.
The piped in sound sounds like they want you to forget this used to come with the n55
Hey, congrats for having over 1 million subscribers now! That's amazing! You both definitely deserve it. I love your reviews! Best wishes, -Chris
Hey joe whats your take on this i know price difference is big but performance wise looks identical on WRX which is better? Thank you
No one was buying sedans before this but he is doing this with a straight face! Hysterical
had one and had 2015 Porsche cayman. both cars rocked. nothing fits like a glove more than Porsche. but my 2015 bmw 235i coupe came damn close. best cars on the planet. my arm is broke so can't type all that well. as usual, great review joe...
Looks nice, but for $51K not having heated or ventilated seats is definitely a deal breaker.
@BlakWiseCracker
4 жыл бұрын
Arman M, I’ll get a Dodge Charger or Challenger 🤠for $35k with 500/600 hp
@Armmani2000
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlakWiseCracker That is still going to cost $60K in Canada lol
@vnmimmortal
4 жыл бұрын
You can get it configured with heated seats
@jaspalriat6001
4 жыл бұрын
kenny Tee that’s what I call “cheap power’ lol
@MrMiamiswaggz305
3 жыл бұрын
I tried to get a 60-70k Range Rover Velar with not heating or cooling seats. Dude/salesmen told me it’s hot in miami you don’t need heated seats. I said ok, then where’s the cooling 🤣🤣🤣🚮
Which is the better overall carM235i, Mercedes CLA, or the Caddi CT4-V ?
Happy New Year 2021!
Great video good information as always CAR sounds like an asthma patient for 50 grand I’ve got 10 other cars I’m looking at
Great video like always
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
EpicGamer Of Games thanks for saying that!
I like it, but question the value aspect. I think it actually looks nicer than a S3 or CLA and those cars have been running FWD-platforms for awhile and do seem to sell well, so not a surprise BMW wants a slice of the action. The front & side profiles are great, but the rear decklid is too high IMO.
Really impressed by your review- you paid attention and noted so many details that other reviewers *cough shill/paid/mass-media-types* either 1) don't notice 2) don't care 3) are paid not to mention. Like the placement of the cigarette-lighter/USB ports straddling the cup-holders... Autotrader thought it was super convenient. And we know drive-thru people can't manage to give you a drink without the lid already having a small lake sitting on top! The M235i had definitely caught by eye, because I was looking for something compact that wasn't a hatch, but that also didn't sacrifice on torque/speed (I know, you're not going to get a challenger inside a mini). Now I'm not so sure if the M235i fits the bill- at least not for the $51k that you have mentioned as being a bit too high for what's offered. Thanks again for this video with some actual honesty!
Raiti's watch screeeaaammms "I live in Florida" lol
The car is beautiful. I just wish the shifter was like the 2014 m5. And also I wish it was a performance car. But I’ll still get one for the heck of it.
Which car do you prefer and why, this or the CLA 35?
Looks like a 2020 Kia Forte
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
You are so right!
@polarbear353
4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@lethalpenguin61
4 жыл бұрын
Get a 2020 Kia Forte GT and save 30k
@marcusmcneal7453
4 жыл бұрын
@@lethalpenguin61 Honestly, I'd rather have that than this. My wife has an M235i coupe (2 doors!) and I can't believe how much better of a car it is over this new one in looks and performance. This is one big zonk for BMW.
@streetkiazNewMexico
4 жыл бұрын
That forte gt looking like the best compact sedan atm
Hell yeah I’ve been waiting for this.
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Mystic TK I’m so glad that I could deliver for you!
@mystictk4149
4 жыл бұрын
Raiti's Rides Thank you Joe. I have always been a huge fan of BMW and they vehicles they produce.
@nessuno5403
4 жыл бұрын
@@mystictk4149 except this is a joke of a BMW
@ritarossweisse_
4 жыл бұрын
@@nessuno5403 I feel ya man.
Can you show the back seats down in the future reviews....especially since you showed us the lever?
That display is really nice tho. Big improvement vs previous gen. The rims are absolutely gorgeous tho.
It’s not foe carbon fiber trim... there are three different color trims with different ambient lighting patterns. That carbon esque pattern you’re referring too is just where the backlight for ambient lighting shines through. Also interior door handles are not seat buckle style... they are designed to resemblance the Hofmister Kink.
Hello Joe, thanks so much for showing this beautiful 2 series , 🍺🍺🍺🍺🙏🏻 I soooooooooo want to buy a car 🥺, however once I start thinking how/ where to start disinfecting a vehicle upon arrival.... I just lost my mood 😞😞😞
How do you get the black kidney grille from stock?
Not sure about the 2020 but the 2023 has a limited slip diff as well as heated front seats. Test drove one and fell in love.
Hey Joe - I heard their round emblem was from their start in airplanes - it looks like a spinning propeller....
51,000? That's a hard pass!
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Jason genyard I feel your pain!
@jalmonte91
4 жыл бұрын
Yea I rather get an Audi S4 for that price
@alexprice5447
4 жыл бұрын
That kind of money I'm getting the Kia stinger, more room, nicer interior, more HP and torque, better design.
@derekintrovert5619
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexprice5447 Better Quality!!!!
At 10:13 Never! You could never ever spill a drink in your BMW!😀
why in german cars the armrest in doors and the middle seats are not soft or cushy?
When do you think the 2021 m3 will hit the market?
Very interesting. It shares a platform with X2 and many Mini models.
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
RS I totally agree with you!
LOL Raiti....... Cop at 16:00 ..... and then you floor it....... BHWAWAWA ........ that was funny dude. !!!
Were you testing it in Sport mode though??
It feels like every reviewer of this car has to be initially apprehensive because of it's transverse mounted motor... At the end of the day at the JCW Clubman in a BMW M sport Snow Jacket...and that's not a bad thing because I love the JCW Clubman but I love the orange red leather interior you can get with the BMW as standard👍 I love the moment you really started pushing the car and started to enjoy it😎
Beautiful 😍 I saw this in white red seats was just perfect 👌
Why do you hide how fast you're going? Love your content man.
@gtrfreak
3 жыл бұрын
He was obviously speeding bro, hide the evidence 😆
Got like 10 minutes in and KZread hits a error. Been trying over and over to watch. I can still watch other videos.
@ethandoud1385
4 жыл бұрын
A Van just do the skip 10 seconds a couple times when that happens. Restart the video right before that happens and do the skip 10
@avan5352
4 жыл бұрын
No skipping. Finally got it to work. I’m probably in the minority but I kinda like this BMW.
Too much 💰💰💰 Nice job Joe! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Great Video! Looks like a Kia Forte though. Please review a Jeep Compass !!
Raiti.. The car I’m really waiting for is the new redesigned 2021 2 series coupe , there was a spy shot of the car in Mexico testing 3 days ago they said it’s going to be the new M245i and M235i 😏
I love what I see . I’m in the Caribbean so heated seats ain’t a problem for me I don’t need it. But the overall of the 235i I definitely would want one
I want to like it.. I mean it's capable. Gotta see how it compares to the A 35 AMG and new Audi S3 when they are available.. not a huge CLA fan
Three years ago today! Planning to buy it!
Omggg I just loveee that front end, same M pedigree but now Thicker! Just perfect 😍👌
I am surprised.....I really expected to hate the idea of a front wheel drive BMW, but this looks like a lot of fun !!!
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
colderbeer it was.
I think the MSRP is a on the high side of things. And what is the deal with BMWs naming scheme? I remember when 325i meant a 2.5L inline 6 cylinder engine. This car badged M235i which you would think means you're in a turbo-charged inline 6 cylinder but no it's a turbo 4 cylinder- a $50k 4 cylinder with not a lot of options.
That front end looks like a true Darth Vader mask. Looks like it’s staring you down lol 😂🤣
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
I know right!
There is an M135i offered for sale in Europe, Australia, South Africa, the Middle East, Southeast Asia, Mexico, pretty much in a lot of countries except the US and Canada.
I'm surprised they sell x-drives in Florida
How does it compare to the STI acceleration wise ? Seems rather sedated from your reaction. Kinda sounds underwhelming. Nice work Capt. Content. Does it feel front drive biased ? Would you go with the MB CLA 35 or the BMW ?
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Gipsy Avenger It feels slower which is interesting. This car is ultra sedated overall. Thanks for being so supportive.
@ryadhasanahmed5443
4 жыл бұрын
This car sends 60% if it's power to the front wheels
@brucenorval2308
4 жыл бұрын
My M235i definitely feels much more a front wheel drive. I have to admit personally I prefer rear wheel drive. I also have a Merc A class AMG and it feels more like a cheap Renault/Nissan. I'd buy another BMW long before another Mercedes.
mine has heated seats but no sunroof, I would prefer the sun roof ! But yeah this is a dope little car, my last car was a B5 Audi S4 and this is fun even though it's automatic transmission
Raiti for president
Hey Joe, please review the Evo 10.
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
DreShaun84 I will try to track one down!
Expectations were too high on this one because of the brand and its reputation for being the ultimate driving machine.
Looks like winner to me. Even decent MPGs. Price isn't crazy town either. And that black is SHARP! I would never lease a Bimmer larger than this.
Why is the video cutting off?
You can add heated seats, but I don’t think ventilated
Joe, you get that Genesis G80 ?
is it reliable?
You should compare this to to a fully loaded camry or accord. To see if the price is worth it.
@M4B21S88
4 жыл бұрын
optimus prime i mean, this is a more performance oriented car. 4.5 sec 0-60 vs 5.8 secs. Given that the vast majority of camry and accord buyers opt for the slower engine under the hood , a $45k bmw m235i is out of the question. If youre buying the better performance engine, hopefully youre negotiating for a fully loaded one for no more than 36k...a 10k difference. My point is, the average camry / accord buyer would not cross shop into a $45k bmw “performance car”. Now , maybe an avalon shopper... since a fully loaded one can get into the mid 40k and avalon is more “luxury” over the camry.
hey how do you do that in sport mode that the exhaust is bubbling
@RaitisRides
3 жыл бұрын
Great question!
Yo! Joe, can you do a review on a 2020 C43 AMG?🇺🇸💪🏽😎
@JaySkyofficial
4 жыл бұрын
Yes ! I own a 2019 C43 AMG tuned by Renn Tech 405 awhp 470 llb ft Fully modified find me on facebook deleted my Twitter and Instagram. I have tons of pics and videos Love the car over the M340I and the Q50 Redsport 400. Those were my 2 options I was considering before my beloved C43 AMG
that black one helps a bit with ugly design but with those wheels turned the front fenders show how bad is it when bonnet is short due to front wheel drive (although cabin space is much better)
Good review, what is the point of making smaller car with higher price! I thought they make them smaller to be more affordable.
It’s a nice looking car, but as much as I think they tried to make it look like a slightly smaller 3 series sedan, the proportions are just off a little. And while it seems like a nice enough car, and 300 hp for a small sedan is pretty good, there’s just no way it’s worth $51K. Nice review though, Joe!
Hopefully he'll do that blue M8 in the back there.
50k for this ? Why when you can get the Cadillac ct4 for cheaper
I'd actually be more impressed if they left it fwd, dropped alot of weight(maybe 600lbs) and it was easier to maintain outside warranty, also add a nice 6 speed.
@alansmilealot
4 жыл бұрын
Also drop the price by a great deal.
I mean I got my kia Optoma SE black on black with a moon roof apple/android car play. Headed seats/steering wheel for 21k brand new. Might not have 300hp but its a sharp looking car that reliable, good on gas and affordable with a 10yr warranty.
I've watched a ton of vids on this car, and this is the very first one that DID NOT have heated seats. I don't know how, but your guys there somehow botched the order on this one, and deleted that option. Ditto the HUD. I guess they nixed the Premium Package.
13:39. Toothbrush storage problem solved. 😎
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Gareth Hood yes sir! 😉👍🏻
@AbdullahHood
4 жыл бұрын
So far I’ve got places for my Back Scratcher, alarm clock and Toothbrush. But let’s be practical. I need to know if my shampoo has a place!
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Gareth Hood 😂
The designers at BMW have lost their minds by putting a BMW badge on this Kia Forte. One of the ugliest luxury cars ever.
@Slime_threezus
4 жыл бұрын
Tyrel Tolliver mostly the badge you could get 300 hp else where. Id rather get a cpo 340i xdrive
probably the best 4 cyl engine except from the a45s, 450nm of torque in this performance bracket is insanely good.
@RaitisRides
10 ай бұрын
I think you may be right!
$ 50,000 but no heated seats, that’s sad
@brucenorval2308
4 жыл бұрын
My M235i has heated seats and a lot more fitted standard than this car. Maybe UK spec is better and for less than $50k new on the road. Only thing I didn't ask for was the panoramic roof.
Cool looking car , great job!! But for 50,000 I was expecting more on the interior!! Come on BMW you can do better!! The body style is nice inside and out!!
The BMW logo is supposed to be a propellor with a blue sky behind it.
Nice looking car, great video!! But nothing should be faux in a $50,000+ and or a BMW!!!😱😱 But I do like the body style it is pretty awesome looking !!
Keep going with the hustle!
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
ryan ryan thanks my friend! I’m bringing it!
There’s a BMW m cloth ? 😁
Like the infotainment system, don't like the center console design. But at the same time, that performance, tho 😂👍🏻 Great vid, Joe! Stay safe!
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
Victor Le I’m glad I could share it with you!
I think it's a great car!
I like your watch more than the car lmaooooo just saying 🤷🏾♂️! Still top notch review
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
You are awesome Jerelle. Thank you!
@jerellebullock8792
4 жыл бұрын
@@RaitisRides yessir! Always facts 👍🏾 waiting for that tlx type s and next generation. Also that g80 which I seen just cant wait to u review it 💯
I love seeing you do 70 in a 30 =)
Can u review a mg6 car
$51K for this. No thank you.
Very nice BMW joe hope you get that ferrari f8 tributo spider or McLaren 720s spider have a good day
@RaitisRides
4 жыл бұрын
antonio cail thanks man!
@antoniocail5608
4 жыл бұрын
@@RaitisRides You welcome Joe
It's actually not a ZF transmission, those are for rear wheel drive models. This has a Aisin unit, similar to the ones in front wheel drive Toyota. But BMW did their own programming and I gotta say Toyota should learn something from them.