Is The Music WORSE? Is 30FPS THAT BAD? Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (Nintendo Switch)
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Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door just released for the Nintendo Switch. It's one of my most anticipated games to release this year. So the question is, is it a good remake? How is the framerate? And is the music WORSE than the original? There have been many who have addressed the framerate and the music as bad. I wanted to see for myself. These are my first impressions of the game.
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Literally my ONLY gripe is that the dialogue is slower and you can’t zip through it anymore
@TicTacToeCraft
Ай бұрын
You actually can but weirdly only for some dialogue.
@super_dude00
Ай бұрын
I believe you can zip through dialogue you’ve already read through before, but I’m not sure about anything else.
@PianistTanooki
24 күн бұрын
That's correct. Dialogue that you've already seen can be sped through a lot quicker. But anything you HAVEN'T read, they force you to read it at THEIR pace, similar to Origami King.
Guys you can buy a badge for one coin to have the gamecube ost playing (it costs zero bp to equip)
@pikminpro2001
Ай бұрын
yeah not using that, the new ost is far better, outside of a few exceptions.
@bearzdlc2172
Ай бұрын
@@pikminpro2001 lmfao nice bait
@pikminpro2001
Ай бұрын
@@bearzdlc2172 huh i thought the majority of people thought the new ost was better, its one of the biggest improvements in the remake is it not?
@giu0014
Ай бұрын
@@bearzdlc2172imo, some of the osts are improved in many ways in the remake, they’re both great soundtracjs though, you could play witht he original one and it would be fine
@moongaming2778
Ай бұрын
@@bearzdlc2172 remake OST way better IMO
Tbh I didn’t even notice that the game is 30fps, nor do I care, as it doesn’t ruin the gameplay for me
@darkshot4424
Ай бұрын
Same, and as I was playing I was trying to see where it was a problem, and I never saw it stutter and it was not noticable to me
@therealjaystone2344
Ай бұрын
The performance is the least of the problem but the surrounding controversy such as Vivian being trans
@SonicTheCutehog
Ай бұрын
@@therealjaystone2344Even though she was trans in the original Japanese script
@turtlenator6249
Ай бұрын
@@SonicTheCutehogNo, Vivian was an otokonoko, a boy that dressed/expressing as a girl.
@HappyYummmy
Ай бұрын
cared anough to comment 🤡 enjoy your $60 30fps 2024 game.
Now we just need Mario & Luigi RPG on home console for the FIRST time ever.
@ianmurphy3840
Ай бұрын
You could play Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga and Partners in Time on Wii U Virtual Console when the Eshop was open and right now you can play Superstar Saga on Nintendo Switch Online.
@yelloh2831
24 күн бұрын
I would kill for BiS on the switch but I know there’s gimmicky gameplay styles
My only real problem isn't the 30 FPS, it's the fact that the combat and dialogue just feel sluggish compared to the original.
@kelvindavis172
Ай бұрын
Exactly! I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. It also sucks that you can't use the B button to skip over dialogue faster like in the OG TTYD and PM64. You can't even go back to the previous text boxes anymore, which is such a weird design choice IMO.
@pikminpro2001
Ай бұрын
that's weird the combat seems totally fine to me
@Cfreezy12
Ай бұрын
@@pikminpro2001yup, I never played the og but I think the combat is fantastic, these guys can cry I guess?
@projectz358
Ай бұрын
@@Cfreezy12you never played the og and you tell people to cry about it. You are the most immature person I ever met in this place.
@brandon236
Ай бұрын
@@Cfreezy12original game was better
Paper Mario was called Originally Mario Story in Japan because the story was told as a story book that you see at the opening and because the story was divided into To Chapters. The same was with this game. And a little with Super Paper Mario. So it was never about the paper part
@Keblash
Ай бұрын
Ya, Nintendo tried to take the physical paper part too far. Like, its neat and cool the first time but it gets old when literally everything for multiple games is just literally paper. The paper aesthetic of the original TTYD I think hit a good balance.
@therealjaystone2344
Ай бұрын
@@Keblashwhen sticker star exist
@MatthewCenance
Ай бұрын
I thought it was called just "Mario Story" and not "Original Mario Story" in Japan. The point stands dispute your apparent error.
@joopvanhedel1372
Ай бұрын
@@MatthewCenance I meant that the two original paper mario games were called mario story in Japan. But Sticker Star and the games after it change it to Paper Mario in Japan. Sorry it was unclear, I used Google translate because I'm from the Netherlands
@volvoman5262
26 күн бұрын
@@joopvanhedel1372 Liteary TTYD is called in japan "Paper Mario RPG" what are you talking aboud the first three being mario story?
The one thing that I'm a little bit disappointed for is the fact that they didn't add some sort of side mode where you could play as Luigi in his quest for the Marvelous Compass during the game's events. It's a bit of a missed opportunity, but honestly I don't mind it too much because the game is still peak anyways
@noheffthing
Ай бұрын
you seem to miss the point of Luigi’s stories lmao. They sound purposely absurd and heroic of Luigi because it’s meant to be played off like he’s making shit up as he goes. The actual adventure probably wasn’t nearly as exciting as how he described it. Adding in that side adventure would miss the point of the humour of his stories completely
@Goomba1309
Ай бұрын
@@noheffthing I guess that's a fair point lol, like I said it's not really a big deal to me anyway tho
@Truttle1
Ай бұрын
My theory is that Luigi is completely lying. I mean, how else is he in the audience when Mario’s fighting?
@noheffthing
Ай бұрын
@@Goomba1309 aight
It's fine. I still perfer 60fps over 30fps and would happily sacrifice visual fidelity just to recreate the same technical experience I had three generations ago.
@bobbysworldofficial
Ай бұрын
just play it on the computer. I have no idea how this plays in 30fps
My only two problems with this remake is that the combat feels more sluggish than the original at 30fps and I genuinely don't like the UI of the remake. For example, the battle screen. In the original the UI looked charming but in the remake, the battle screen looks so bland and like it's from a mobile game.
It should have been 60 FPS...
oh! theres a badge for the old sounds? Hell yeah! Thats all that matters as far as music goes. having both options solves every issue anyone can have with it. Absolute W scenario.
@pacomatic9833
Ай бұрын
That's what I'm saying! They let you have the old music, no fuss, so why complain?
@MusicJunkie37
Ай бұрын
Does not replace all of the original sound effects tho
@bearzdlc2172
Ай бұрын
@@pacomatic9833 because if you're remaking something it should be on the very least on par or better than the original or else why do it? and the entire remake ost is a major downgrade
@pacomatic9833
Ай бұрын
@@bearzdlc2172 On one hand, I agree But on the other hand, music is pretty subjective. What they thought was great, is terrible in your eyes.
@codascheuer8426
Ай бұрын
@@bearzdlc2172 As a composer, I can very confidently say that the music is definitely not a downgrade. You might not like it as much, which is fine. But I absolutely love the new soundtrack! So it is subjective, and they give you the option to listen to the old soundtrack. So again, there’s no need to fuss about anything
As a newer Paper Mario fan who didn’t really like Origami King that much, I absolutely love this game. Origami King was my first Paper Mario game, and since then, I went back and played a few hours of Paper Mario 64, and I absolutely love what I played. I haven’t gotten very far in TTYD, but I love it so far. I can see why Paper Mario fans love this game so much
I wish they didn't make it so that you have to wait for star power to fill up before you can choose a battle command
@Samyboy03
Ай бұрын
EXACTLY omg
I actually grown to love the new music just as much as the original, but I love having the nostalgic tunes badge because I like to switch between both
I'm honestly looking forward to getting this game and for the bright future of the Paper Mario series if it continues down this path of greatness, in fact i would love to play a new Paper Mario game with this gameplay style .
@dunkwaffle4895
Ай бұрын
Why waste your energy on someone who’s just mindlessly complaining about a good remake 🤷♂️
@robertlauncher
Ай бұрын
@@dunkwaffle4895He spends 99% of the video praising it.
@dunkwaffle4895
Ай бұрын
@@robertlauncher He was literally nitpicking every small issue like it was the end of the world the ENTIRE video like always
@robertlauncher
Ай бұрын
@@dunkwaffle4895 You didn’t watch the video and it shows
@dunkwaffle4895
Ай бұрын
@@robertlauncherwhat makes you think that 💀 if you paid attention for more than 5 seconds in the video you’d know that’s literally what he’s saying ? Bro just made a video to complain 🤦♂️
Also I played Brilliant Diamond and its anything but faithful.
@MatthewCenance
Ай бұрын
Well at least we get to play with Skuntank again.
30fps is a meh thing for me, the game lools beautiful. However things like the Battle Transitions look a little choppy. What I really love is how the game adjusts many things but keeps it the original. The remake fixes many flaws especially the backtracking in natural ways like the spring in the tree or new pipes
The rare early morning upload from Demeech!
Fire Emblem Echoes will still be the best Intelligent Systems remake or remaster.
As someone who never got to play this game until now, has me excited as I heard great things about the Thousand Year Door.
I hate this remake for various reasons, the biggest one being how awkward and off it feels to pull off super guards and the power bounce both consistently. the frame rate ruined both of those aspects horribly imo. the frame rate makes it too frustrating for me to enjoy the battle system compared to the original which I'd much rather play on you know what in 2k with the you know what texture pack, not the most ideal experience but definitely far superior I'd argue, especially if you have a powerful enough setup to do it with.
Regarding the music, I feel that the ost isn´t really better nor worse, just different. As Paper Mario passed to a lot of music styles since Super, I feel understandable the fact that they made other takes regarding the music. Some osts may make it better, other worse, and its interesting to hear them and make our own conclusion. Im sticking the Remake for most of it, although I obviously prefer some ost of the OG. And regarding that most people hate it; I disagree, is just that the people who didnt like it can be really vocal about it. Our brain can be a mf, and make for us easier to spot a negative comment over 10 positives. And knowing that some people who are disconformed with that can jump to comment to comment expresing their discomfort, you eventually realize that the amount of people is not that big.
@PianistTanooki
24 күн бұрын
It’s not a “majority consensus” like he’s making it out to be. It’s just a vocal minority of whiny fans. I thought the original soundtrack was largely just… okay. It existed, but nothing stood out to me except for the Rogueport and battle themes. Now that isn’t the case for me. It was also primarily redone by Thousand-Year Door’s original main composer, Yoshito Sekigawa.
they didnt make bosses from all chapters replayable :(
While I do think the game itself is great (first time TTYD player here), I’m still sad that it had to come at the cost of the Mario and Luigi series dying. Nintendo went on record saying they don’t want two concurrent Mario RPG series happening at once. While I’m happy this edict was seemingly walked back, now my favorite of the Mario RPG series might not come back anytime soon.
@seasonembrace3624
Ай бұрын
Yeah Nintendo's argument sucks because there can be more than one Mario RPG series how on earth is it confusing for the consumers?
@board-qu9iu
Ай бұрын
I doubt it given the poll that did a few weeks ago had Mario and Luigi related questions so it seems kind of odd for that to be the case
@seasonembrace3624
Ай бұрын
@@board-qu9iu I was just making assumptions
Anyone else here like Sushie and Flurrie like I do?
Glad to hear that you've enjoyed the remake so far! :D
Hey it's been awhile as for this first impression I had a feeling you would like what you see so far can't wait to see your full review of it heard it had a few controversies here and there but that shouldn't be a deal breaker for you if you don't really care for that side of the argument Have fun there's a real reason why many called this a Treasure from the Start.
My first time playing ttyd and it’s eye opening how much better it is than TOK imo. Even as a jrpg it feels way ahead of its time It’s simple yet there’s depth to the combat
I played TTYD when it came out in 2004 and haven’t touched it since, so maybe I just don’t remember the music that clearly, but I’m loving the new versions
The performance being cut in half was a non-issue for me. I don't notice a difference and the performance of the game is buttery smooth. If anything, this might be my preferred way to play the game going forward. As for music, the more I listen to it, the more I like it. The battle theme is different for each chapter you explore and some of the boss themes are fantastic. I just got done beating Chapter 5 last night and the boss music was excellent! Might try and beat the game today. About to begin Chapter 6!
Imagine if the "Switch 2 version" of the game will be playable at 4K but with the frame rate still locked at 30fps. 😂
@PianistTanooki
24 күн бұрын
Honestly it probably would be. Most games on the PS5 and Series X struggle to hit 4K, and even those don’t hit 60fps.
@TicTacToeCraft
24 күн бұрын
In the event that this is the case, I sincerely hope that they will implement two modes (performance and fidelity) for the majority of the games, similar to the approach taken by the ninth console generation. It should be at the player's discretion to prioritize exceptional graphics or a higher frame rate.
@PianistTanooki
23 күн бұрын
@@TicTacToeCraft I agree. I don’t need this game to be 4K. I play most of my Switch games on a 4KTV upscaled as it is, and the 1080p games still look perfectly fine. 1080p at 60fps would be my preference.
@TicTacToeCraft
23 күн бұрын
@@PianistTanooki In addition, a 1080p resolution alone would provide at least a slight improvement for games such as Odyssey, TotK and this game, as they currently operate at 900p or use dynamic resolution. So even then, the resolution would receive a small upgrade.
Its cool that they added extra tracks to the ost
The only time i notice 30 FPS is in certain paperflipping cutscenes. In the gameplay not so much! So it doesnt bother at all. I defeated Lohgard now. And I must say music is hit and miss. Some are worse some are better of the new ones. Overall a great game though!
I beat paper Mario 64 recently that game still holds up pretty well too
So far, it's looking good. This might be the first Paper Mario game I play through.
What would you say to the Mario fans who didn't grow up with this game or messed out on the GameCube era and couldn't play it back then?
@smashmaster521
Ай бұрын
Play it. Seriously, play this game! It's so damn good.
I know this is a hot take but so far besides Boggly Woods, the Puni Tree, and Glitzville, I prefer the music in the remake, feels super upbeat, I was not expecting that :D My favorite partners in TTYD are Yoshi and Koops :)
@kevinsmith163
Ай бұрын
What you're saying isn't a hot take actually lol. I'm not sure where Demeech is getting that the general consensus is that most do not like the remixed soundtrack. From what I've seen, it's the opposite in fact. I saw only a few that don't like the remixed OST. So as of right now, he's actually on the minority side, not the general consensus side.
@TicTacToeCraft
Ай бұрын
@@kevinsmith163 Perhaps Demeech has spent too much time on Twitter-- I mean X. It is THE place for loud minorities and their opinions.
@PianistTanooki
24 күн бұрын
It’s definitely not a hot take.
You need to play and review unicorn overlord!
The one thing I don't like about the drop to 30 fps is that now superguards are easier
10:46 And even then I hardly played it. I guess more like 8.5 people who played it through the end?
Im playing the game right now and I wish they did 60FPS. What can we do though. Still a good game to play again. The gamecube version is still the best one in my opinion
i swear ppl just hate to hate the game is great
I had to pass on the game sadly. Bills come first over Paper Mario. Adulting sucks. Liked nephew Demeech.
Game feels very slow
Only problem I have is the game looks a bit blurry. Like besides that the game looks graphically great but yeah.
10:40 1 in 10 people😂😂
You got it wrong. The best looking switch game is not this one neither Luigi's mansion 3, it's Metroid Prime Remastered.
@Kaitotaku
Ай бұрын
Yeah, no.
@pikminpro2001
Ай бұрын
haha good joke.
@raulmolinerocaceres8477
Ай бұрын
@@pikminpro2001 It´s not a joke, Metroid Prime Remastered looks incredible
@pikminpro2001
Ай бұрын
@@raulmolinerocaceres8477 i agree it looks freaking amazing compared to the gamecube version, and is one of the most incredible visual improvements in a while, BUT luigis mansion 3 is easily the best looking nintendo game of all time, it looks like you're watching a pixar movie instead of playing a game. ttyd just looks like real life papercraft which is amazing in its own right. they're definetly better by a mile.
It is a amazing remake my only problem with it is changed dialog
@king_poyo64
Ай бұрын
You mean the more accurate translation, or the somewhat censored jokes?
@volvoman5262
Ай бұрын
@@king_poyo64like Luigi being dressed has been changed to just tripping
@Allen1350
Ай бұрын
Vivian also alludes to being trans. I don't have any hate towards this topic, but integrating it into a childhood classic for me was kinda weird. 🤷🏻♂️
@king_poyo64
Ай бұрын
@@Allen1350 It was in the Japanese script, they just added it back in for accuracy.
@king_poyo64
Ай бұрын
@@volvoman5262 That’s a weird change if it wasn’t a translation thing.
only played up to first chapter... proceeds to make a video. gg
40% ghost
I forgot this guy
@Demeech
18 күн бұрын
I did too
Tbh I gotta say!
eh, fuck it--subscribed
WHAT?! 30 FPS!? Unplayable, impossible to beat, 0/10! Well, 1/10 because I’m nice.
I’m playing the game and I can tell you the 30 fps is not noticeable
@Samyboy03
Ай бұрын
Your eyes get used to it after awhile playing in 30fps. If you have the capacity to play the gamecube version right after, you’ll immediately notice the 60fps compared to 30fps. I certainly did.
@moongaming2778
Ай бұрын
@@Samyboy03 you’re right you will notice a difference between the switch and the GameCube but I’m just saying the 30FPS didn’t affect in my play through there was some moments that had FPS drop but overall nothing serious
Best-looking Switch game? Come on. It's a great remake, but it's still just Paper Mario.
Wanted to love it but the 30 frames and dialogue is just slower now. I barely got to hooktail and I just gave up with the chopping on frames. Popped in cube and all of a sudden the game was good again.
Music kicks fucking ass
What’s wrong with the Pokemon Diamond and Pearl remakes if this one is fine? It’s basically the same type of remake lmao. Just feels like you don’t like Diamond and Pearl or expect more for Pokemon remakes compared to other series.
@volvoman5262
Ай бұрын
They didn't add the platinum content plus there were no expactasions that a remake Of Paper Mario will be made at all
@aintthatapotofeffluck8926
Ай бұрын
@@volvoman5262 I suppose but it’s a bit of a double standard. They’re both very faithful remakes that only change graphics and not much else. Honestly, the Diamond and Pearl remakes contain more added content, actually - compared to this Paper Mario remake. Just seems like this Paper Mario game is more beloved.
@pikminpro2001
Ай бұрын
@@aintthatapotofeffluck8926 i actually agree, diamond and pearl just never were that good, while ttyd always has been great. the ttyd remake does fix a couple of the few flaws it had though (fixed fast travel for example.) and SPOILER ALERT: even added a new boss or two
The fandom menace meanwhile Is whining over Vivian
@Daralexen
Ай бұрын
The Identity of Vivian was never altered in Spanish, French, or Italian. I am not sure why it was altered in English and German.
@Cenriquezm
Ай бұрын
@@Daralexen Vivian in the original japanese was always a person that considered herself to be a woman, despite everyone else calling her a man. I don't know where that came from, Vivian has never been understood as a crossdresser dude by Japan or international audiences until like a week ago where someone started that specific misinformation.
@Daralexen
Ай бұрын
@@Cenriquezm I phrased it wrong, but the part of Vivian's identity was never altered in the Spanish, French, and Italian versions. I have no idea why it was altered in English and German in the first place. So, I never understood the controversy surrounding Vivian.
You could have gone a little further into the game to talk about the most "controversial" thing, I mean Vivian
@Marbilou
Ай бұрын
Tf is wrong with Vivian?
@eclairyukariblademiswaifus
Ай бұрын
@@Marbilou nothing, that's why I put it in quotes, but since there are people who are saying that now Mario is woke I want to know what Demeech thinks
@1685Violin
Ай бұрын
@@eclairyukariblademiswaifusDeemech doesn't have to talk about that if he wants to keep political issues out. Besides, there were also a few changes in the dialog that were not accurate to the Japanese version such as the cat-calling to Goombella. Two steps forward, three steps back.
no need to shill, having the remake be less fps is unforgivable and lazy, nintendo is terrible
the original ost is ass compared to the new one
lmao all these comments pretending they can't notice the difference between 30 and 60fps is pure cope
@JoseViktor4099
Ай бұрын
Because some of us genuely can´t lmao. I have to look up to the borders of the one to one comparisons to notice the difference.
@PianistTanooki
24 күн бұрын
I notice it, it’s just not a big deal for me when playing the game. This isn’t Mario Kart or a Super Mario game where 60fps is crucial. It’s only really noticeable when scrolling through areas really fast with Mini Yoshi. I’d prefer it at 60, but 30 isn’t a dealbreaker for me.
Average Demeech complaining video bc he can’t be grateful for one damn game 😭
@Marbilou
Ай бұрын
Bro wtf did you watched the video fully?
@JonnelTheGreatest
Ай бұрын
pin of shame should come soon
@playbossthebest936
Ай бұрын
Constuctive criticism must be too much to handle
@George-sn3bt
Ай бұрын
Brush did you even watch the video 🤨
@Josuh
Ай бұрын
why is blud even subscribed
but dull bones is a completely different enemy than dry bones is..
@volvoman5262
Ай бұрын
Even audience member is a dull bones